zakalwe
03.18.24 | Some of this holds weight |
DoofDoof
03.18.24 | this list is a masterpiece in semantics - it this the end boss of the 'literal' police?
"you said everything when actuuuuallly you only meant 'a lot' - I have you, I have you!" |
Rowhaus
03.18.24 | Agree with pretty much all this tbh. I'd like to expand on 10 as well. It's become super trendy to put-down a band's popular songs simply because they're popular. I get that a song can be overrated, but I think people take that contrarian crap way too far. Songs can be popular and still be great. |
VespertineMusic
03.18.24 | Agree with all of this and even though I am genuinely not a big fan of Led Zeppelin IV, an 8 minute song being so heralded and popular is quite the achievement. |
PizzaBear
03.18.24 | "“The Beatles were the Green Day of their generation. Catchy yet boring.”"
Where is the lie though |
Ryus
03.18.24 | “This is the worst thing I’ve ever heard.”
how could this be dumb |
Demon of the Fall
03.18.24 | 1 is usually said as an exaggeration, not in the literal sense. I always translate these comments into ‘bottom tier music’ which is fine
9 & 10 are also fine because this is just an opinion on the quality or lack thereof of the music. Yeah I get that some people may go out of their way to be contrarian sometimes, but otherwise it’s fine
Hmm, I understand the spirit of 7 (maybe) but that example taken as an actual quote would be clumsily worded. Overly technical music CAN feel soulless
Agreed on the rest. |
Ryus
03.18.24 | "1 is usually said as an exaggeration, not in the literal sense. I always translate these comments into ‘bottom tier music’ which is fine "
except when its sleep token in which case it is true |
Evenoss
03.18.24 | 1 is a rusted tool for edgelords that like to talk shit on mediocre popular artists |
heck
03.18.24 | this is the worst list I've ever read |
DoofDoof
03.18.24 | Demon - 2 is also clearly exaggeration and not meant to be literal
I'd imagine all of the first five are mostly used for exaggeration and jokes
The other five are more likely to be genuine opinions about music (I've never heard someone get that excited about 6 though) |
AsleepInTheBack
03.18.24 | this list isnt a list |
BAT
03.18.24 | a high school 'friend' bawked at the idea of listening to 'slayer - south of heaven' as it'd only be good for 'giving a headache.' [they championed the 'flobots' instead, currently they just post screencaps of endwokeness tweets onto their facebook account] also in that vein people saying anything remotely distorted/loud is headache inducing, 'ear fatigue' is the proper term. |
PizzaBear
03.18.24 | "I'd imagine all of the first five are mostly used for exaggeration and jokes"
There's a significant portion of people that genuinely seem to believe some variation of 5 though and it is dumb as hell. |
GiaNXGX
03.18.24 | 8 is wrong on so many levels, Cage went on to write a book about his whole indeterminacy fad so I don’t see it as “abandoning” theory rather favoring a new approach |
GreyShadow
03.18.24 | stairway to heaven sucks, agreed |
GreyShadow
03.18.24 | 8 is the one that grinds my gears. theory is a toolbox to use in support of creativity and just outright denouncing it because you think you're better off is silly
it's not a requirement, i'll never say that. but, it can honestly, only help. if not just for yourself, then for collaborating with other musicians in the same language. if anything, id say you dont need to be an expert even remotely but like please for the love of god, know how rhythms work in a basic sense. |
JohnnyoftheWell
03.18.24 | 7 (og comment) is the only good take here
and sometimes 1
8 is luddite shite / 6 is one of the most unheralded annoying opinions in the game and deserves this shade / variants of 9 are only spouted by people i don't trust on anything (and the og take is a braindead reduction) / similar story with 2 lol way to announce you don't have a defined taste profile. kill those bois |
DoofDoof
03.18.24 | 'There's a significant portion of people that genuinely seem to believe some variation of 5 though and it is dumb as hell.'
Well, if we agree different eras of music can be very very different then it is valid to say music lost something it used to have. To say it is 'dead' is hyperbole/jokes |
Ryus
03.18.24 | yea 7 is 100000% a thing |
DoofDoof
03.18.24 | 7 is a thing....
but also if different musicians aren't better or worse at translating emotion then wtf are we even listening to music?
So that might be an own goal there in some ways, though the way it's communicated in the example sounds like it would come from someone irritating for sure |
bellovddd
03.18.24 | 9 is a very interesting take and 8 is just plain silly |
Evenoss
03.18.24 | Doof : translating emotions can be done in many different ways, with different angles. Besides, we almost all love Gilmour but AAL or Polyphia's music has not the same style and 'purpose' as the Floyd's. That being said, how could one say that Tosin Abasi or Tim Henson do not 'feel' the music ? |
DoofDoof
03.18.24 | Ah ok, I felt you were saying they were over enthusing about certain musicians whereas it was more you were against them dismissing the emotion in others.
Got that the wrong way around. |
Ryus
03.18.24 | o yea wait i assumed the same who says 7 |
Flugmorph
03.18.24 | good list, excellent even. |
FearThyEvil
03.18.24 | I'd add people on youtube that always complain of being born in the wrong generation for music because they won't listen beyond radio music. |
Ryus
03.18.24 | “Hans Zimmer is the new Beethoven / Bach / Mozart.”
this is prob the funniest one |
Havey
03.18.24 | i say 7, but replace david gilmour with sandy ewen |
Ladron93
03.19.24 | When some people say "I listen to everything", it annoys me a bit without naming some variety of bands or they'd listen to a particular genre and name bands of one familiar genre.
The rest are interesting. |
KevinKC
03.19.24 | I came here to contradict but I must say that yeah, these statements aren't necessarily unbearably stupid but they're pretty pointless and wrong when they are, on the contrary, most of the time, used to show off. |
KevinKC
03.19.24 | Here's a statement about music that I agree with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MddBsVbih1o |