JerseyJimmy: A List Regarding the Objectivity Rating

parksungjoon 04.21.23	it does not matter one bit but if you actually want to know how to get 100% i can tell you
ffs 04.21.23	the haters won't admit that there's way more good music than bad music
AsleepInTheBack 04.21.23	^^ this objectively, objectivity is dumb
Kompys2000 04.21.23	Your ratings system is between you and whatever you pray to, I've heard objectivity is just how close your average rating is to 3.0 ALSO interacting with the community and exchanging recs and exposing yourself to things outside of your comfort zone in the name of POSTS and BANTS will both fill out your lower ratings and naturally hone your sense of the things you value in music, thus raising your standards as a listener to the ubersnobby median expected of a sputnik regular and then your number go up whee Tl;Dr 5 everything except skrewdriver definitely 1 skrewdriver
robertsona 04.21.23	5 “The Big Day” by Chance the Rapper
parksungjoon 04.21.23	>I've heard objectivity is just how close your average rating is to 3.0 thats one of two factors, the other is having your variance close to 1.0
Demon of the Fall 04.21.23	it doesn't matter, although as someone currently sitting on checks notes 88% I can say that... if it DOES matter to you, then just adjust your personal rating scale. Maybe give that album you really like but don't absolutely love (or revisit often) a 3.5 instead of a 4 and so on etc. Also, I think it depends how explorative you are. Yeah, don't go out of your way to check bad music, but if you dive into a lot of 'unknowns' then you're bound to dislike some of it and as a result your average will naturally drop. Being explorative is a net positive for me, whatever some of the results may be.
IsisScript80 04.21.23	It's a derpy computer calculation that doesn't take into account any real-world nuance. I think that at best, it can serve as a rough guide in regards to staff reviewers whose job it is to listen and report back to things they wouldn't actually like--sometimes subjecting themselves to punishing crap for the sake of a relaying that informationto others in a (hopefully) balanced way. That onus isn't on most listeners. Time is precious, and I generally do not want to subject myself to things I get the feeling I'd dislike, just for the sake of giving it a "1.0", just to boost my Objectively score on Sput. If I give the 45-60 minutes of my life to an album, it'd have to interest me enough in a way that I feel would be ultimately pleasurable or life-enhancing. The only vague benefit of seeking out shit is to sometimes reinforce notions of what is "good" in a wider, relative sense, but I personally find the desire for that rare. Basically, most albums I select to listen to, I go in wanting (in Sput terms) a 3.5 or above. Generally, I feel it's a waste of my time alive to actively seek crap.
Demon of the Fall 04.21.23	sometimes you need to challenge yourself, I mean there are plenty of albums which I find are 'easy to avoid' but there's also lots of highly rated stuff that's outside of my comfort zone that doesn't always end up appealing (hence this results in low ratings) I agree that setting out to hear music you hate is largely pointless, yet you can still get 'something out of' a mostly negative experience, it depends on your perspective. Also, I'm probably weird in that I can't accurate predict what I'll actually enjoy in a lot of cases - my taste is all over the shop
IsisScript80 04.21.23	"sometimes you need to challenge yourself, I mean there are plenty of albums which I find are 'easy to avoid' but there's also lots of highly rated stuff that's outside of my comfort zone that doesn't always end up appealing" I agree with that... nothing wrong with challenge/exploration. I just make the distinction when it comes to the specific notion of "Objectivity Ratings", where one feels naturally compelled to find things that are 1.0s just to balance it. Nothing wrong with broadening horizons... finding that you like new things (or not) and rating accordingly, but that's the kind of real-world nuance I was referring to above, that this rating system isn't built to keep up with.
Demon of the Fall 04.21.23	I've made incremental adjustments to my rating scale (it has become harsher over time) in order to address some of these built-in real world balancing issues, at the end of the day you can choose your own methods / interpretation your assessment of the music itself doesn't actually have to change
parksungjoon 04.21.23	real gunbusters aim for the top
Demon of the Fall 04.21.23	I just didn't like looking at my ratings and having 6 zillion 'excellent' albums I never actually listen to etc. for me every genre has a limit to the number of artists / albums I actually need and if there's nothing much to separate certain things stylistically, then I'll 'cut' some from the group of essentials I'm far from finished, this is an ongoing project I feel tragic having typed that out now. Let's get back to saying how this doesn't matter, lol
someone 04.21.23	Even having an average rating mames more sense, yeah
Parallels 04.21.23	reminder this site once had profile ranks
anode 04.21.23	Yeh I feel you. Mine is screwed towards higher ratings but I am one of the pickier listeners for sure. If I rated everything I listened to, it would definitely be skewed in the other direction. It’s pointless dawg except for those select few who 5 everything they like and are obviously not objective
IsisScript80 04.21.23	"I just didn't like looking at my ratings and having 6 zillion 'excellent' albums I never actually listen to etc." That's fair enough, but that's the nature of the situation where you can think something IS excellent, but not to your current listening tastes (which, ironically is closer to TRUE objectivity). Using my tastes as an example: As genres go, I'm not majorly keen on Jazz or Classical... I can appreciate the craft and artistry I hear in stuff that are considered classics of the genre, but to slap a rating on them? WTF would I put? "2.0 - Poor"... reflecting to the real-world likelihood of me returning to play the records again, or "4.0 - Excellent" (or above,) directly relating to the level of craft, despite my own tastes/genre preferences? A rating is redundant in this regard.
ToSmokMuzyki 04.21.23	imagine caring about the objectivity rating rly its just a measure of how much of a shill you are (90%+ = uber hive mind)
Demon of the Fall 04.21.23	you don't have to revisit something all that regularly to appreciate it, there might be that niche moment / situation where it just hits. On the other hand I don't believe in attempting to be objective and measuring 'craft' or 'skill' unless I'm actually enjoying what I'm hearing.
JerseyJimmy 04.21.23	holy shit that's a lot of feedback. okay sweet, glad to know the general consensus is that it doesn't matter. plus, it's not like I never leave my comfort zone - had a pretty good time with that jakey record from last year, for instance, and I usually ignore hip-hop after like 2012. also took a chance on britpop a while ago and got really into it. "the haters won't admit that there's way more good music than bad music" yeah that's for fuckin true lmao
bighubbabuddha 04.21.23	the problem i have with the objectivity rating is that I like to 5 albums that I think are classic/timeless but that almost always reduces my objectivity so i don't pay the obj rating much attention. Like take TPAB or Ziggy Stardust. Classics that are 5/5 in my eyes but wreck my obj rating so yeah it annoys me too dude but for a more specific reason.
Ryus 04.21.23	i like most things i hear nowadays since i have a good sense of what i like and don't like. if i didn't then i probably would've stopped seeking out new music a long time ago lol
MO 04.21.23	i think this is affecting you much more than it should
GhandhiLion 04.21.23	it's your ticket to heaven or the number nine train
pizzamachine 04.21.23	It is dumb
Cimnele 04.21.23	my objectivity is uh 79% after rating a few classics and hundreds of EPs no-one cares about, i don't get it at all lol am i the normie tastemaker of a generation
mkmusic1995 04.21.23	Yeah, it really doesn't matter one bit. Just like what you like, you don't need to seek out music you won't like just to have a more "balanced" objectivity score.
fogza 04.21.23	objectivity rating is probably the most important thing in life, don't listen to everyone they just don't want you to get access to secret gigs and events
Demon of the Fall 04.21.23	my last 25 x ratings have all been in the 2.5-3.5 range think I've lost the ability to use the others, send help. Edit: okay, now I have a single lonesome 2.0 amongst that selection. That's a relief!
el_newg 04.21.23	there is no such thing as objectivity in valuing art
IsisScript80 04.21.23	^ Artistic taste is purely subjective, yes, but it is possible to take a somewhat considered approach to appraisal. If there is underlying theory in its craft, it can be measured to a degree.
DocSportello 04.21.23	if my variance isn’t .69 i get fidgety. parameters are healthy!
fogza 04.22.23	Is that a sex joke 😏
ToSmokMuzyki 04.22.23	no he's just obsessive compulsive you sick freak