YoYoMancuso
08.06.22 | subpar content |
Squiggly
08.06.22 | Good list, bad opinions oops |
DavidYowi
08.06.22 | “BPD sufferer” get bent you little bitch |
thedoom
08.06.22 | Your opinion on 5 ouch |
Sinternet
08.06.22 | get interesting taste before dumping shit opinions here please |
Kompys2000
08.06.22 | /mu/ is back the other way buddy whining about fandango won't get you brownie points here |
sonictheplumber
08.06.22 | fantano is a soyboy bitch. hes like every white internet music guy born after 1997 rolled into one big bald piece of poop |
lifetheory
08.06.22 | YoYoMancuso: ok. Is it not allowed?
Squiggly: you got the whole squad laughing
DavidYowi: what do you mean?
thedoom: why?
Sinternet: shush
Kompys2000: idc about that. Fantano helped me find many albums. Street Sects is one band where I agree with him, but people here apparently don't like it that much.
sonictheplumber: damn it.. I was born in 1997.. I almost escaped the trend :( |
Observer
08.06.22 | Observer: comments nothing but just reads the list and then posts about not commenting, which is commenting. Paradox. |
lifetheory
08.06.22 | Observer: I don't know what to say.. mostly because I couldn't follow your logic. |
Tundra
08.06.22 | Every album he rates highly is usually mid |
Observer
08.06.22 | Observer: Makes an ignore the bait comment in commenting about a reply that ignores a noncomment comment.
never listened to these albums so idk |
YoYoMancuso
08.06.22 | “YoYoMancuso: ok. Is it not allowed?”
Yeah this violates every site rule actually |
SharkTooth
08.06.22 | I just follow him for the yellow flannels, I found some good shit through him, but I'm not gonna take his word as absolute proof I'll love an album. He's a resource for finding good music for me, nothing more, nothing less |
lifetheory
08.06.22 | YoYoMancuso: ok.. Then I have to say it's not subpar. I disagree. |
Hendoi
08.06.22 | fantano should give me his channel so i can write all his reviews |
lifetheory
08.06.22 | The point of this list is debating the weird incoherence (imo) from one of the best music reviewers I know on the internet, and maybe help me make sense to why he has an opinion about some specific album, by reading people who agree with his view on it.
Example: why do you think Lingua Ignota SINNER GET READY album deserves a 10 rating? |
Veldin
08.06.22 | https://www.sputnikmusic.com/user/theneedledrop |
lifetheory
08.06.22 | Veldin: that would have saved me a lot of time :P |
JohnnyoftheWell
08.06.22 | what is this
"debating the weird incoherence (imo) from one of the best music reviewers I know on the internet, and maybe help me make sense to why he has an opinion about some specific album"
what is this shit |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | JohnnyoftheWell: It's called being rude, for starters.
edit: I even gave an example below. How would I make it even easier to understand?
I want to know who agrees with him and why. |
JohnnyoftheWell
08.07.22 | yeah fair argument featured
now get that mental health stigmatising horseshit out of the comment of 5 and log off forever thank you |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | JohnnyoftheWell: No. It's my personality disorder too. But that's where exactly I had a lot to talk about the album. If KH knew he had BPD she didn't had to expose him the way she did.. but I digress, and I don't want to digress on this theme anymore. |
MarsKid
08.07.22 | It's important to be considerate of your abuser when discussing how they have abused you. . . . . |
widowslaugh123
08.07.22 | What is this
What is this shit |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | MarsKid: When the abuser is someone with a personality disorder that sometimes also revolves around near-uncontrollable patterns of behaviors, yes. She didn't had to do that interview with Fantano which lead to a whole fanbase attacking him. Also, he said it didn't happen how she says it.. it's worth what it's worth.. of course believing her must be priority due to the seriousness of the accusation. |
Sharenge
08.07.22 | lol props for making these people mad |
JohnnyoftheWell
08.07.22 | okay can you explain the role BPD plays in that sentence because i am now officially Lost as to your nuance
and on top of that why you felt forced to reduce both 1 and 3 to identity snipes in order to round off this otherwise breathtakingly comprehensive critique? am hardly the strongest advocate of either, but both have pretty obvious appeal beyond the lazyass stereotypes you link them to |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | Sharenge: that wasn't what I intended with this.
The point is knowing people's opinions on the albums and I'm already finding bias on the Lingua Ignota one which was exactly what I was expecting. People can't distance themselves from the emotional connection KH claims her album has, and they decide to ignore their obvious imperfections. |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | JohnnyoftheWell: it was just a adds-up like "vocalist" but.. I guess I wanted people to know because it's relevant to the emotional aura the album of LI portrays.
Both 1 and 3 are bland albums. I could have go into detail and say that Black Dresses lack a visceral conviction and Charli lacks substance. |
Casavir
08.07.22 | Artists can be as transparent as they wish with what a work that they make can represent and all people can do is respond to that. How you've chosen to respond to it is pretty telling. Also, KH has no obligation for the mental well-being of someone who abused her so thoroughly that she received spinal injuries as a result. Fuck off. |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | Casavir: you ok? Breathe and re-read.
edit: (and for the record because there is so little space given to his version)
Marshall: "I absolutely did not engage in any form of abusive behavior towards Kristin. Kristin is a person that I loved and cared deeply for, however, our relationship was unhealthy for both of us. I can assure anyone reading this that I absolutely did not abuse her, mentally or physically. I am investigating legal options." |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | (I edited all albums descriptions by adding more details to conform to people's criticism) |
combustion07
08.07.22 | Just listened to Black Dresses- WASTEISOLATION after finding out about them from the Ada Rook review posted here recently and I'm honestly surprised he gave something from them a high rating.
I used to have a horror nerd YouTube channel and fantano was kind of tied in with that community when he was just starting out. We used to interact sometimes and I always watched his vids back then. Kinda fell out of touch with it discovering newer channels but I need to start watching some stuff again. Feel like he's got a good variety of stuff he covers although our taste doesn't line up on a decent chunk |
thedoom
08.07.22 | Victim blaming, how lovely.
Also in case you didn‘t know, Kristin Hayter released her statement regarding Alexis Marshall months after her album came out. The albums acclaim at release doesn‘t have anything to do with the publicity of that statement at all.
I don‘t know why I‘m wasting my time honestly… |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | combustion07: he's a very good reviewer which is why I struggled to find more examples to my list. Black Dresses is weird for me because I listen to it time and time again and my reaction is like.. "this is a plain wall. it's like watching paint dry. how does he likes this so much?" |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | thedoom: not victim blaming. I didn't blamed her at any time. Saying "she didn't had to" is not rejecting the fact that she did. I read the full statement. Don't mix accepting what she did but pointing out flaws, with blaming her for anything. I may amplify some things when I'm being pushed yes, and I admit that's something it may happen, although I try to control it. You're wasting your time because deep down I think you recognize how fair I am being. |
Casavir
08.07.22 | "(and for the record because there is so little space given to his version)"
The fact of the matter is that using Marshall's alleged mental illness to excuse the reality of what Kristin said is heinous. Especially when the entire reason you're choosing to do so is because you're livid that a music critic gave an album a higher score than you think it deserves. |
Dedes
08.07.22 | Alexis literally raped her so hard that her disc slid out and she had a permanent almost life threatening injury
You cannot fucking justify that because of "bpd"
Is mental illness an excuse to be a toxic degenerate? |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | Casavir: Saying "alleged" is also not very reasonable. I ain't livid because of his score. I'm livid because people all around the internet are telling a person with BPD, a disorder that has 10% of completed suicides, to kill himself and he claims it's false accusations. You'd think he would at least admit something but he clearly says he absolutely did not abuse her either mentally or physically.
With this said, now looking at KH side, she is obviously the one we need to protect the most, but when we're talking about the intricacies of the situation it should be acceptable to also consider the management of the accusations (even them being not objectionable at all). |
Casavir
08.07.22 | "I ain't livid because of his score."
You literally are though, that was your entire reason to to make this list.
|
lifetheory
08.07.22 | Dedes: If you're going to attribute graphic details, any psychotic meltdown sounds terrible. I acknowledge I may be naturally biased in this situation. Although, I need to speak up and say that.. people have no idea how unmanageable it is.. Anyway, music is the focus.. I don't like this album, and in other hand I liked Caligula so much I gave it a 4.5. |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | Casavir: I wouldn't consider that being livid. It was something that I wanted to debate.. Although the last album context does leave me livid.. and it does leave me livid not because of KH or AM, but because of how society dealt with it. |
BAT
08.07.22 | fantano giving the violent sleep of reason a 'not good' is the worst review of his career, pretty much just put all of his metalhead credibility into the shitter. he also stans nails&deathgrips way too much |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | BAT: I am a huge fan of Kurt Ballous' albums productions, so I can't speak much ill of Nails. I recognize how banal they may be when in comparison and how Kurt's production makes the whole difference. Death Grips have also made some decent albums, although I wouldn't give neither a 10.
Regarding Meshuggah, I find it to be a bit repetitive to be fair. |
ArsMoriendi
08.07.22 | Calling it now, this lifetheory guy is going to end up a staple Sputnikmusic member in a few years |
anode
08.07.22 | Crickey |
BAT
08.07.22 | big fan of kurt ballou aswell and he definitely gives nails their trademark punchiness. nails is 'pretty good' but don't really set themselves apart from the late 2000s crustcore bands like 'trap them' or 50% of the other bands kurt ballou produced between 2007-2015, they have a straight forwardness that's admittedly fun tho. i saw them live and they played for like 25-30 mins[while headlining] and saw some 6'5'' foot dude run across the pit and front flip onto a 4' gal, double kicking her in the face and crushing her to the ground. 25% of their set was the vocalist bitching about cancel/outrage culture because metalsucks wrote joke articles about him. only caught the tail end of misery indexs opening set annnd that 8 mins went harder than nails whole show. also saw full of hell the weekend prior for a 1/5th the price and they played at least twice as long and hung out with the audience, nails had louder amps i guess but that was really my only takeaway[aside from the facekicking]. the other members of nails left a year or two later so maybe i just caught them on an off night or wasn't in the right mood, i still like their first two albums tho. i'm also a longtime fan of deathgrips[and hella] but none of their albums are 10s imo, everytime i go back to money store i end up skipping half the tracks on it tbh.
annnd as for meshuggah : yes they're very repetitive lol, it's a consistency among their discography and makes them kind of a love em/hate em type of band. buuut fantano basically gave it a 'not good' because meshuggah made an album that sounds like more meshuggah, when they've been doing that for decades now[including the albums he supposedly likes: catch33/chaosphere]. its kinda like complaining about converge making a converge album, idk it's a just lil bit of a headscratcher. |
mrdogthrow
08.07.22 | I follow fantano the same reasons i follow this website
mostly mid reviews with some every once in awhile bangers |
Drifter
08.07.22 | you are a turd. |
DoofDoof
08.07.22 | Can’t imagine any of the albums listed will have much longevity despite being mostly ok albums - I guess that’s one definition of overrated so that’s what we’re looking at. |
Drifter
08.07.22 | lifetheory: i think you should kill yourself |
Piglet
08.07.22 | -flower boy. crap album, monotonous rap.
-that lil simz album. more monotonous rap.
-also brockhampton. and that last injury reserve album
-any other monotonous rap he's reviewed that i've thankfully forgotten about. fuck i will go to my grave hating this wanky american zoomer conscious woke rap culture he's spearheaded |
Kompys2000
08.07.22 | mrdogthrow with the good takes |
Jasdevi087
08.07.22 | fucking phenomenally bad takes from user lifetheory itt, holy fuck |
Tunaboy45
08.07.22 | That thing someone likes? I don't like it as much. Heh. |
Tunaboy45
08.07.22 | Also trying to separate SGR from its context to then call it a bland album/make light of the circumstances is a super valid and normal thing to do. |
Cryptkeeper
08.07.22 | Funny to see so many people in this thread overcome with the fluoride stare after not understanding what point this list is making (fair) just making up opinions to put OP down for (not so fair) |
naughtcturnal
08.07.22 | lil pump 7/10 |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | ArsMoriendi: I doubt it xD
BAT: it seems like we agree in many points of view then. Nails has some toxic fans that come from his previous band; the Terror hardcore, circle pit & wall of death scene.
Drifter: If I was new on this website I'd take that with face of value but since I know how amazing and free this site is, I'm going to let that slide into your butthole ;)
DoofDoof: That's another good point.
Jasdevi087: ok. thanks for giving your opinion.
Tunaboy45: Understanding sarcasm is hard through text, but I think I spot some. Just look at the albums I gave a 5, you are very far from the truth if your implication is that I hate these albums just because most do love them.. in fact, I don't even hate them.
Cryptkeeper: It's exactly the side of society I don't like. Always out for blood and an eye for an eye. It's like "This person said something I don't like about a person I like so I'll say something they don't like (even if there's a possibility that they are in a similar situation of the person i'm defending) because it will make me feel better.. for some reason.. Anyway, back to being a complete piece of shit to everyone I don't know irl as if they actually had zero background in their lives."
I just can't support this flawed logic. |
AffableMartyr
08.07.22 | I agree with 2 and 4, haven't listened to the others. 2 and 4 aren't even bad, they're just okay |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | AffableMartyr: I agree. |
rabidfish
08.07.22 | Someone who manages to become a successful critic and influence people's taste by just saying "I like this because it's good" or "I don't like this because it's bad" gets respect from me. Mf knows that people dont actually want real criticism they just want their 2D champions and villains. And he's both. Genius. Dude really got a grip on the main internet artery. |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | rabidfish: Interesting perspective.. yes, I agree. Digressing a bit, people really seem to be obsessed with finding their own heroes and villains, when it actually isn't as homogenic as that. People love their drama and their little causes and supporting colors. |
rabidfish
08.07.22 | that's what i mean, tho. By virtue of the simple structure and end result of his reviews (this was my favorite song! this was my least favorite) he manages to become a recipient for people's emotions about a piece of art, that's inherently complex and multi-faceted, turned into a graspable 5-10 min. """review""". When you disagree, he's a dumb fucking idiot, when you agree with him, he's the one pushing good taste onto the dumbfuck masses. Both attitudes result in clicks on his videos. It's a self-mantaining attention machine. The hot takes segment in his b-channel is proof. |
widowslaugh123
08.07.22 |
5.0 classic
2814 新しい日の誕生
Akira Yamaoka Silent Hill 2
Alice in Chains Dirt
Between the Buried and Me Colors
Boards of Canada Music Has the Right to Children
Boards of Canada Geogaddi
Brand New The Devil and God Are Raging Inside Me
Brand New Science Fiction
Carissa's Wierd Songs About Leaving
Circle Takes the Square As the Roots Undo
Converge Jane Doe
Daughters You Won't Get What You Want
Death Symbolic
Deftones White Pony
Discordance Axis The Inalienable Dreamless
Elliott Smith Either/Or
Elliott Smith Elliott Smith
Esoteric The Pernicious Enigma
Explosions in the Sky The Earth is Not a Cold Dead Place
Fear Before The Always Open Mouth
Godflesh Streetcleaner
Godspeed You! Black Emperor Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven
Godspeed You! Black Emperor F♯ A♯ ∞
ISIS Panopticon
Jeff Buckley Grace
Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Kayo Dot Choirs of the Eye
Kendrick Lamar To Pimp a Butterfly
Ludwig van Beethoven Piano Sonata No14 C-sharp minor,Op.27No2
Marilyn Manson Antichrist Superstar
Massive Attack Mezzanine
maudlin of the Well Bath
maudlin of the Well Leaving Your Body Map
Megadeth Rust in Peace
Mount Eerie A Crow Looked At Me
Mr. Bungle California
My Bloody Valentine Loveless
Nails Abandon All Life
Naked City Naked City
Nick Drake Pink Moon
Nine Inch Nails The Downward Spiral
Nine Inch Nails The Fragile
Opeth Blackwater Park
pg.99 Document #8
Pig Destroyer Prowler in the Yard
Pink Floyd The Dark Side of the Moon
Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here
Radiohead Kid A
Radiohead OK Computer
Radiohead In Rainbows
Rage Against The Machine Rage Against the Machine
Refused The Shape of Punk to Come
Rotten Sound Exit
Shining (SWE) V - Halmstad
Skinny Puppy Too Dark Park
Slayer Reign in Blood
Slowdive Souvlaki
Stars of the Lid And Their Refinement Of The Decline
Strapping Young Lad City
Swans Filth
Swans Cop
Sweet Trip Velocity : Design : Comfort
System of a Down Toxicity
Talk Talk Laughing Stock
The Dillinger Escape Plan Calculating Infinity
The Dismemberment Plan Emergency & I
The Ruins of Beverast Rain Upon the Impure
Tool Lateralus
Tool Ænima |
JohnnyoftheWell
08.07.22 | got an above average 5list mixed in with an extremely mediocre one right there |
widowslaugh123
08.07.22 | Motherfucker talking about overrated albums lol |
sonictheplumber
08.07.22 | lol ya tbf this hybridtheory character has like a "staff top 50 albums" 2007 sputnik list. even the token thrash representation with rust in peace, the only thrash album you were allowed to enjoy on sputnik until me and KILL popularized genre specialization in 2011. that being said my 5 list is basically a 56 year old man's list. proud of it though |
sonictheplumber
08.07.22 | but hell fartano's 5/5 list would be like sunn o))) and death grips and thats it |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | widowslaugh123: I don't quite understand what exactly you're so excited about..
Did you finally receive your buffoon certificate in the mail?
And thanks for proving to the other user that I'm not an "anti - the current thing".
Those Swans albums would kick your butt but you wouldn't know that because as a person without any 5's it's likely that you live in perpetual disappointment.
sonictheplumber: Hybrid Theory was indeed the inspiration behind the name.
Rust in Peace got lucky because Mustaine stupid vocals almost screwed the 5 up. I downgraded Master of Puppets because I felt the album didn't resist the test of time.. Tool albums are also hanging by a thread because I'm yet to decide if I can be tolerant regarding Maynard pretentiousness. |
TVC15
08.07.22 | Why’s there a Fantano list in my good christian server this isn’t RYM |
TVC15
08.07.22 | Actually you have the most RYM-core 5s I’ve seen checks out |
sonictheplumber
08.07.22 | folks check out my recent list of progressive recommendations |
Kompys2000
08.07.22 | 5ing Beethoven is some real pick-me shit please tell us the albums you actually enjoy |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | TVC15: Because Lucifer has been set free. |
sonictheplumber
08.07.22 | also theory dont worry about it bro i got no problem with your taste. its just a shame you didnt find this site in 2007 lol your sense of humor and your ratings would have made you a prime candidate for staff. you wouldve got to interview converge and eat vegan cheese with them |
sonictheplumber
08.07.22 | hey wtf plenty of people like beethoven, is digging classical pretentious? theres lot of good music that predates rubber soul |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | Kompys2000: I only 5'vd Moonlight Sonata. Maybe it's because it gives me nostalgic memories of Resident Evil.. The fact is that I genuinely like it. You could as well point out all the other classical/piano albums I didn't 5'vd. |
lifetheory
08.07.22 | sonictheplumber: I really didn't care for Converge latest albums and I don't like cheese.. so I probably wouldn't be a good candidate, even if I wanted to be one, which I don't. |
Observer
08.07.22 | As a contrib, you'll burn pretty bright/be highly motivated, but as a staffer you see that this whole thing/writing for free is pointless. Thats what i hear. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.07.22 | I can’t say what I think of this thread without getting banned. |
Storm In A Teacup
08.07.22 | “got an above average 5list mixed in with an extremely mediocre one right there“
SO U R SAYIN U LISTENED 2 ALWAYS OPEN MOUTH???? 🤨🤨🤨🤨 |
TVC15
08.07.22 | BAT: Fantano lost his metal creds when he accused the Ulcerate's drummer of using triggers |
vult
08.07.22 | Imagine having a different opinion of Anthony Fantano????? Because I certainly can’t. |
Fatorias
10.15.23 | that Sinner Get Ready review was released before the accusations were ever even made |
SomeCallMeTim
10.15.23 | I love it whenever I see fruitful Fantano discussion here lol. He will keep making videos and keep being popular, I will keep not watching those videos. If I ever bumped into him at a concert I’d definitely chat with him for a minute if he seemed cool with it |