parksungjoon
07.21.22 | the ones with a rapist in em |
EphemeralEternity
07.21.22 | chat pile's main guitarist is a real prick and ruins an otherwise great band |
Demon of the Fall
07.21.22 | I see what you did there |
Koris
07.21.22 | Matt Bellamy from Muse. His voice basically ruins any chance of me enjoying the band's music, and his ridiculous and ham-fisted lyrics don't help either
Also as far as 5 goes, you forgot to mention the fact that he basically took over the entire band on Mezmerize and Hypnotize, which is why those are my least favorite SOAD records. He pretty much overtook most of Serj's vocal and songwriting contributions at that point, which always rubbed me the wrong way |
Demon of the Fall
07.21.22 | Muse wouldn't exist without Bellamy though, no offence to the other guys but he kind of IS Muse - growing up that's the way it always seemed anyway. The other guys were just happy to contribute and be part of something, they let Bellamy have all the creative influence / control he wanted. |
Koris
07.21.22 | ^ And that's precisely my problem, lol. I wish the other guys had more input, because the massive input Bellamy DOES have is all of the stuff I don't like... and that's why he ruins the band for me altogether |
Demon of the Fall
07.21.22 | I mean he definitely disappeared up his own self-indulgent backside more and more as time went on, but in reality the band was always his own doing |
MarsKid
07.21.22 | In Flames somehow not being on this list surprises me, it's calling out Anders' name as we speak. . . . . |
anode
07.21.22 | Daron was fine albums 1-3 as backup but when he took the lead on the final two albums I totally agree. Inferior songwriter to Serj and god awful vocalist
I’d argue Jacob bannon in converge is a top contender for his list. But I know that opinion is polarizing |
Mort.
07.21.22 | frankie in emmure |
JKing92
07.21.22 | Don't agree with Daron at all. I'd never say he's a better vocalist than Serj, but I think he's a fine singer in his own right, and adds dimensions to the Mezmerize/Hypnotize albums (especially on terrific songs like "Radio/Video," "Lost in Hollywood," and "Hypnotize"). On the other hand, Lars I get (not sure I'd agree about him "ruining it," though I'd probably call him the weakest link in the group, if there was one).
As for me -- Rob Halford in Judas Priest. Musically a pretty tight band (even if they're not for me outside of their influence on other bands, the aforementioned SOAD and Metallica included), but I'd rather listen to metal bands that aren't fronted by someone who sounds like a gopher inhaling helium. |
anode
07.21.22 | Emmure wouldn’t be a ‘good’ band regardless of their singer. Although I admit I like some of the tracks off speaker of the dead and gallows |
Calc
07.21.22 | agreed so hard with 5. I seriously think his increased use in the last two albums was the primary reason they broke up |
pourradass
07.21.22 | Definitely find Daron grating, couldn't care less about Mesmerize and Hypnotize, all the fun completely gone or just lacklustre compared to 1-2 |
LightAndGlass
07.21.22 | Matt Bellamy made Muse incredible for their first 4 albums and then annoying as hell with everything since. Band took a huge fall from their peak. Major agree with Demon that the self-indulgent shit ruined the band. |
conesmoke
07.21.22 | James Labrie grew on me a lot. I kinda like him now.
Yeah fk Daren
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Mort.
07.21.22 | also whats the deal with the guitarist of chat pile? someone dish pls |
ArsMoriendi
07.21.22 | Pearl Jam with Eddie Vedder |
LightAndGlass
07.21.22 | Silverstein with Paul-Marc |
Shemson
07.21.22 | Really you’ve gotta feel for all but one of Lostprophets more than anyone else
Those dudes were headlining festivals, on mainstream radio and TV… |
widowslaugh123
07.21.22 | Anthony Keidis |
Pikazilla
07.21.22 | jessey lacey, mark kozelek, ian watkins |
Zig
07.21.22 | Phil Collins as lead singer |
rellik009
07.21.22 | Anthony Keidis [2977107510375013751]
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conesmoke
07.21.22 | Michael Jackson |
ArsMoriendi
07.21.22 | I like Kiedis, though I admit his “soulful” vocal attempts are definitely not good
Should’ve made more of his mellow songs like “I Could’ve Lied.” I kinda love his upbeat vocals though especially on BSSM and OHM |
Shamzus
07.21.22 | I mean yeah it's gotta be Lostprophets right? Glad the rest of the band members were able to rebound with No Devotion |
Cimnele
07.21.22 | daron is cool i like him
dave rowntree fucks blur for me, sounds like he doesn't even like music on the first x albums, literally the least interesting drummer of a generation |
Snake.
07.21.22 | steph carpenter |
JayEnder
07.21.22 | "chat pile's main guitarist is a real prick and ruins an otherwise great band"
lmao nice |
Minortimbo12
07.21.22 | First list in a long time I see! |
Divaman
07.21.22 | I agree with 2 totally. I just don't find LaBrie's voice interesting. |
Ryus
07.21.22 | "also whats the deal with the guitarist of chat pile? someone dish pls"
im assuming thats the guy in the band whos a sput user |
Ryus
07.21.22 | its parksungjoon |
FR33L0RD
07.21.22 | Lars is often antipathetic but at the same time a good enough drummer.
Kirk is the conciliatory guy of the band. Conclusion, no Lars is unable to ruin it all.
( btw, the majority of people are migrating to a full black and white view of the world in almost every aspect of it, it is so unrealistic, false, simplistic and childish. This is a very very limited way of living) Cheers! m/ |
Josh D.
07.21.22 | Anything with Anthony Green's voice, see ya! |
Calc
07.21.22 | surprised no one's mentioned Mike Franzino ruining a lot like birds |
Avagantamos
07.21.22 | 100 gecs: the one that's not Laura Les |
XfingTheSullen
07.22.22 | I don't know how I could have forgotten Anders Friden - yea that guy's whiny emo voice and weak screams definitely deserve a special place in hell |
evilford
07.22.22 | Eddie vedder [10000000000000000000000] |
sonictheplumber
07.22.22 | nothin wrong with lars imo. the first 4 metallica records are good cause of the songwriting and i really dont think more complex fills would really improve them |
BAT
07.22.22 | zp theart ruined dragonforce for me in the 00s glad they replaced him |
LightAndGlass
07.22.22 | Jag or whatever his name is that replaced Jordan in A Skylit Drive. Dude has up pitched radio Disney vocals. |
AlexKzillion
07.22.22 | Joba on the post-saturation brockhampton albums |
AlexKzillion
07.22.22 | eddie vedder doesn't ruin pearl jam, the rest of the band sucks too |
Willie
07.22.22 | Immediately thought of Lacuna Coil. They could have been the European Evanescence in terms of fame if they would have dropped him early on.
I agree with Dream Theater too. I think he was key to getting them their fame, but he should have went after Scenes From a Memory. They should pick up Fates Warning's vocalist now that they're done.
Lars needs to become Metallica's studio guy. He could help James arrange the songs, and do the writing but leave the performances to someone else. |
IsisScript80
07.22.22 | "Lars needs to become Metallica's studio guy. He could help James arrange the songs, and do the writing but leave the performances to someone else."
Can't foresee a scenario in this universe where his ego would allow that. |
Koris
07.22.22 | "I agree with Dream Theater too. I think he was key to getting them their fame, but he should have went after Scenes From a Memory. They should pick up Fates Warning's vocalist now that they're done."
I think Russell Allen or Ross Jennings would be good picks too. Granted, the latter probably wouldn't work, given how busy Haken usually are |
claygurnz
07.22.22 | Shocked that nobody has said Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins tbh, one of my favourites but loads of people aren't fans |
Willie
07.22.22 | I'd agree with that too. I liked Smashing Pumpkins' music, but hate his voice. |
MarsKid
07.22.22 | Allen is better off on Symphony X tho |
JKing92
07.22.22 | For quite some time, I definitely would have said Corgan. His voice kept me from becoming a Smashing Pumpkins fan when I first started getting into '90s rock when I was fourteen (and even back then, I did like the band musically). It was only upon hearing "1979" on the Grand Theft Auto IV soundtrack in 2008 that I started to turn around on them. Then I heard Siamese Dream not too much later and thoroughly loved it. |
LightAndGlass
07.22.22 | Sometimes I like Billy and sometimes I don't. Kind of depends on the mood and the song. Those times when his voice meshes perfectly with the song though... |
LightAndGlass
07.22.22 | THE KILLER IN ME IS THE KILLER IN YOOOOOUUUUUU
~send this smile over to you~ |
JKing92
07.22.22 | I think I'd agree with that. As you note, there are times where his voice can become part of the bigger picture of a song that helps it add up into a truly terrific listen ("Hummer," "Soma," "Mayonaise"), but there are definitely other times where he's just flat out grating (nowhere more so for me than on "Bullet with Butterfly Wings"). |
conesmoke
07.22.22 | Billy Rules |
Koris
07.22.22 | "Allen is better off on Symphony X tho"
Yeah, but what are they even doing right now? There hasn't been an album since 2015 |
Willie
07.22.22 | There was the bus accident that I think put Symphony X on hold... the one with Portnoy's side project. I can't remember the name right now. |
Koris
07.22.22 | You mean Adrenaline Mob? |
luci
07.22.22 | No one mentioned Pelican yet? They're notorious for having a crappy drummer who ruins their sound. |
BlindHouse
07.22.22 | Pelican's drummer sucks for sure on most of their stuff, but he got much better for their last two records. |
Willie
07.22.22 | --You mean Adrenaline Mob?--
Yeah, them. |
RogueNine
07.22.22 | Was going to say Van Halen, but even without DLR they'd probably be no good. |
Minortimbo12
07.22.22 | Olivia Rodurigo. Oh wait.... |
Emim
07.22.22 | "nothin wrong with lars imo. the first 4 metallica records are good cause of the songwriting and i really dont think more complex fills would really improve them"
I feel like most people bag on Lars for being a shitty live performer. Dude is constantly messing up. |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.22.22 | b-b-b-b-b-based
>inoffensive?
what is this
|
Pikazilla
07.22.22 | nergal makes behemoth corny |
MarsKid
07.22.22 | Have we mentioned Lucas Mann and the Faceless guy yet. I forget his name. But both of em literally ruined it for everyone involved with their projects lol
Shoutout to The Haarp Machine while we're at it. |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.22.22 | nergal makes behemoth horny
fix'd |
DatsNotDaMetulz
07.22.22 | Surprised nobody mentioned Fred Durst and Limp Bizkit. Everyone agrees that Sam Rivers and John Otto are a tight rhythm section and Wes is a great guitarist but so many people hate LB purely because of Fred. |
DatsNotDaMetulz
07.22.22 | I'm assuming this list isn't for people ruining their bands by being scumbags, but just for sheer perceived lack of ability/incompatibility with the band they're in. |
conesmoke
07.23.22 | Those people know exactly where they can stick that cookie |
Asdfp277
07.23.22 | dang, seems like singing is hard |
ArsMoriendi
07.23.22 | "Shocked that nobody has said Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins tbh, one of my favourites but loads of people aren't fans"
TBH saying Billy Corgan is a bad take. Most people don't realize that he's more than just the lead vocalist, he's also the lead guitarist, writes most of the songs almost entirely by himself, and had way more influence on their guitar direction than James Iha.
Some rumors even say that he's the only bass player on Gish and Siamese Dream (outside of "Luna") and that D'Arcy Wretsky was just kinda there for live shows and backup vocals until Mellon Collie.
Like it's fine if you don't like them, but taking Corgan out with just make The Smashing Pumpkins a great drumming band but otherwise unremarkable |
CaliggyJack
07.23.22 | Lars Ulrich is great fuq da hatahs |
Asdfp277
07.23.22 | what did he do im not that old |
conesmoke
07.23.22 | He sued Napster in a blaze of self-righteousness |
Asdfp277
07.23.22 | ah wait i remember that lmao |
JKing92
07.23.22 | I wouldn't say the lawsuit was born out of self-righteousness. As rich as Lars is, he needs to eat too, and I'm sure it sucks to see people essentially stealing your product. |
onionbubs
07.23.22 | mike franzino [2884059] |
Egarran
07.23.22 | Every musician secretly thanks Lars Ulrich every night. |
evilford
07.23.22 | I dont even think I hate lars cuz of the napster thing, artists deserve to be compensated and earn a decent living from their labors, I get it. Hes just a massive asshole to everyone. You ever seen the guy interact with anyone else? Dude is a fucking turd. And the way he sticks his tongue out while mediocrely drumming....ugh |
evilford
07.23.22 | But to be fair, lars doesn't ruin metallica by himself. Hetfield is fairly cringe too |
BAT
07.24.22 | @marskid michael keene still has a pretty dedicated fanbase and i would say his albums hold up. the revolving door of people has been a part of their legacy since their early years, hell the first faceless album has 3 different drummers on it. keene [and his exmembers] has always been upfront about his flaws but mann is the type to blame everybody else and say the critics are just jealous cause he can play guitar[whilst his exmembers claim he's got no dedication and only pumps out albums for an advance/doesn't actually learn any of the new songs]. keenes never propped himself up as some sort of genius and mann demands people respect his talent.
i've also seen keene compared to chuck schuldiner. he's obviously not that legendary but i'd say both are the main draws of their bands regardless of how many talented members went thru the ranks. on the other hand i think all 3 represent difficulties with maintaining a touring lineup in a niche underground scene like death metal, it's hard to make a living off of and it's a lot of hard work/time investment.
also the best thing about lars drumming: it's easy/fun to air drum too |
TVC15
07.24.22 | Not necessarily a band, but Hans Zimmer usually shows up in great movies and nearly ruins it with his scores |
ConcubinaryCode
07.24.22 | "surprised no one's mentioned Mike Franzino ruining a lot like birds"
100% went from their most acclaimed album to not being album to sustain itself within one album. |
Supercoolguy64
07.24.22 | The Vines but not because Craig Nicholls is a bad songwriter or whatever, but because he is a total manchild and fucked over his own band because of it |
LightAndGlass
07.24.22 | What exactly happened with Mike Franzino? |
AlexKzillion
07.24.22 | "TBH saying Billy Corgan is a bad take. Most people don't realize that he's more than just the lead vocalist, he's also the lead guitarist, writes most of the songs almost entirely by himself, and had way more influence on their guitar direction than James Iha."
while this is all true his vocals still ruin it all lol |
XfingTheSullen
02.19.23 | I agree about Anders Friden, totally should have included him, he pisses a lot of people off with his "sensitive boi" vocals and lyrics |
JeetJeet
02.19.23 | Megadeth
Dave's voice is so lame |
Mort.
02.19.23 | bloc partys vocalist on the newest lp |
Wildcardbitchesss
02.19.23 | “ eddie vedder doesn't ruin pearl jam, the rest of the band sucks too”
fuck I’m glad someone finally said it. Tho Eddie is definitely the worst part |
MoM
02.19.23 | Bert from The Used on anything after Artwork |
FadedSun
02.19.23 | "I’d argue Jacob bannon in converge is a top contender for his list. But I know that opinion is polarizing"
Yeah, that's pretty wild. Without him Converge wouldn't even be close to the same band. No one can sound like him, even if his vocals are technically "bad", and everyone knows the guy can't sing, but it somehow works. He's also the creative force behind everything art related to the band. |
twlight
02.19.23 | Pink Floyd |
Purpl3Spartan
02.19.23 | Unfortunately Frankie is to emmure as Matt Bellamy is to muse mort. Isn’t he? |
twlight
02.19.23 | 5 is totally true. Daron should have shut his dumb mouth. When you have someone with as iconic of a voice as Serj does, stick to back up vocals bud. |
MoM
02.19.23 | Agreed. Less is totally more with Daron |
Wildcardbitchesss
02.19.23 | I completely disagree about Daron.
He and Serj have such a unique chemistry, and I don’t think that’s lost even when Daron does leads.
And I’ll go even further against the grain and say that Mesmerize and Hypnotize are probably my two favorite SOAD records. |
Trundle
02.19.23 | I think Daron is a perfect fit for SOAD |
Supercoolguy64
02.19.23 | Daron doing leads was pretty much inevitable, by ‘05 Serjs voice was pretty shot and you can kind of hear it on those records |
unclereich
02.19.23 | Always loathed Roger Waters’ voice and don’t enjoy much of Floyd’s work post wish you were here |
unclereich
02.19.23 | The kiedis hate is something I’ve only understood recently. There are a lot of great songs that he ruins. Still love rhcp but his voice isn’t great |
Wildcardbitchesss
02.19.23 | Kiedis and Flea ruin RHCP for me.
The slap bass is annoying and Anthony just fucking sucks. Which is a shame because I legit think that John Frusciante is an incredible guitarist. Whoever their drummer is is fine too, but just can’t stand Flea and Anthony |
anode
02.20.23 | “Yeah, that's pretty wild. Without him Converge wouldn't even be close to the same band. No one can sound like him, even if his vocals are technically "bad", and everyone knows the guy can't sing, but it somehow works. He's also the creative force behind everything art related to the band.”
Yeah you’re right. They’d be a much better band with slightly worse artwork. I’d take it |
anode
02.20.23 | Lol what. Serjs voice was fine. Listen to his solo work he sounded great. He even went on to sing opera post soad |
widowslaugh123
02.21.23 | Keidis was at his best in the 80s when he was just a hype guy doing shitty but fun raps |
Emim
02.21.23 | Fred Durst. I don't mind him as much as most but if the dude dropped the whiny crap they'd be much better off |
Wildcardbitchesss
02.21.23 | alright I’m not gonna search this thread looking for whoever dissed Jacob Bannon but fuck no to that.
He’s not a technically gifted singer, but he’s perfect for Converge. When you listen to the bands instrumentals would you really want someone crooning over that?
Fuck no if you ask me. Jacob is perfect for that band. |
normaloctagon
02.21.23 | agreed with wildcard except hyp and mes arent my favorite soad but they are still great |
anode
02.21.23 | I can’t listen to it but w/e I know people like it |
bellovddd
02.21.23 | Limp Bizkit - Fred has ruined a potentially great band
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anode
02.21.23 | Idk his red hat was pretty cool |
bellovddd
02.21.23 | especially since it was always backwards.
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FadedSun
02.21.23 | "Yeah you’re right. They’d be a much better band with slightly worse artwork"
Nah, Converge wouldn't be better without Bannon. He just fits the band. Can you imagine anyone else shrieking/barking/screaming over Jane Doe? I sure can't. You can't even emulate those vocals anyway. |
PotsyTater
02.21.23 | Bands where every aspect is terrible |
unclereich
02.21.23 | Bands where every aspect is terrible
the Beatles |
botb
02.21.23 | Hell of a bump but there’s a lot of em for me. Can we include producers? Sturgis pretty much single handedly destroyed metalcore records |
unclereich
02.21.23 | the alchemist |
botb
02.21.23 | Now I’ll never understand the alchemist hate |
unclereich
02.21.23 | I just feel like every artist I enjoy that he ends up working with puts out the most mid shit on earth |
botb
02.21.23 | Boldy, Freddie, the griselda dudes, Roc marciano, currensy, and Armand hammer would like a word |
unclereich
02.21.23 | they can have a word after I wake up from the nap the production puts me in |
botb
02.21.23 | I love that laid back shit but more power to ya |
unclereich
02.21.23 | I used to! my interest in rap has evolved so much im not sure I even like it anymore. |
PotsyTater
02.21.23 | Excellent alchemist plug perfect amount of disdain |