botulist: THE BATMAN!! | Sputnikmusic

botulist 04.23.22	fuck you
JeetJeet 04.23.22	Wrong. Best Batman movie ever hold this L
Hyperion1001 04.23.22	why wouldn’t anyone waste their time watching a movie about a dude in a bat costume lmao
TheSonomaDude 04.23.22	super gritty serious batman is what nerds want. almost like they don't know what "comic" book means.
Space Jester 04.23.22	Most of the people I’ve seen that don’t like this movie are a bunch of cringe edgy boomers on Facebook
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.23.22	You are such a terminal grouch Movie was aight, riddler was the worst character
IsisScript80 04.23.22	"almost like they don't know what "comic" book means." Just the catch-all term for the medium. A misnomer nowadays, in reference to anything specifically humorous.
pizzamachine 04.23.22	Riddler was annoying but W movie
SitarHero 04.23.22	This is...actually not a bad take. This movie was trying its damndest to to be Se7en, except with a PG-13 rating and the world's greatest detective who doesn't solve shit or prevent a damn thing.
Brabiz 04.23.22	Movie was full of comedy tf are you on, mate?
TheSonomaDude 04.23.22	yeah that part where batman brooded in darkness and then nirvana played is peak comedy i havent seen it but im gonna guess that's a scene
grannypantys 04.23.22	after seeing all the good reviews of this movie i gave it a watch. Generally underwhelming. The actor that played batman wasn't any better than the guy that played the riddler and it annoys me that this movie shares so many plot points with the dark knight right down to the anti-climactic third act. Also can we talk about the car chase? Not a shining example of well planned cinematography.
Egarran 04.23.22	You will appreciate the meme https://imgur.com/a/Howdowe Yeah during the car chase I was just thinking about the amount of innocent people who got killed in the fire.
trilo 04.23.22	saw it last night. the self-seriousness got goofy at times esp with the amount of dialogue spoken in hushed n gruff tones. pretty dece overall just kinda expected more given the positive reception
botulist 04.24.22	the one part that was truly funny was when penguin's car upturns and he sees batman emerge in front of a wall of flame and a do a slow walk. i think it was meant to be epic, but then, like with most crucial shots in the movie, the director just ran it way too long, until batman walks up to the car and then awkwardly stoops to lean into the window to say hi, with the stupidly colossal music still playing. comedy gold.
AnimalsAsSummit 04.24.22	Movie was just great to look at and I haven’t seen a better looking movie in a minute. Probably since the new Evangelion, John Wick films, and Shin Godzilla . I think my favorite part about The Batman was just how dope everything looked and the action scenes were some of the best in any of the films (as far as choreography goes). Gotham looks so sick it’s unreal.
AnimalsAsSummit 04.24.22	But I’ve always thought The Batman films were stylish films most of the time. Always so creative and cool to watch. Coming from someone who loves the first two Nolan films, and even Batman Forever, just as much as this new one.
SitarHero 04.24.22	"the director just ran it way too long, until batman walks up to the car and then awkwardly stoops to lean into the window to say hi, with the stupidly colossal music still playing. comedy gold." [2] And then follows it up with a scene where Penguin gets to tell Gotham's two greatest detectives that they're giant dummies for failing seventh grade Spanish...and he's right so they don't even have any comebacks for that. That shit was pretty funny too.
Egarran 04.24.22	>until batman walks up to the car I got weird Darth Vader vibes from that scene. The music sounds a lot like the imperial march too.
botulist 04.24.22	yep. comedy of the year.
DarkSideOfLucca 04.24.22	This might be the worst thread on this entire website
botulist 04.24.22	don't be such a riddler about it.
CaliggyJack 04.24.22	They made Riddler into an angry redditor and this fact still leaves me in tears laughing
hobblepot 04.24.22	Best Batman film ever made, Nolan’s trilogy is overhyped and the Keaton films are BOOOOOOOORING. Best comic book film ever is The Suicide Squad though, because that film knew comic books are fucking stupid
Wildcardbitchesss 04.24.22	Logan>
Ryus 04.24.22	best comic book film is the incredibles
SitarHero 04.24.22	Is it based on a comic book though? Definitely the best superhero film.
Ryus 04.24.22	oops i meant superhero
IsisScript80 04.24.22	"Is it based on a comic book though?" No, an original IP, but it's the Fantastic Four film the actual owners of that property are somehow incapable of making.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.24.22	“ awkwardly stoops to lean into the window to say hi, with the stupidly colossal music still playing. comedy gold.” That was fucking stupid. Stupidest moment award goes to the scene where he’s beaten to near death and catwoman saves him only to immediately be attacked in which Batman remembers he has a convenient vial of adrenaline (not even bane venom) that insta-cures him for the entire rest of the duration of the film.
AnimalsAsSummit 04.24.22	It was dumb but cmon, you’re gonna always have insane corny stuff like that in an action movie. Overall though, shit was so cool. The Equilibrium-esque hallway scene is one of the best things I’ve seen in a movie in a long time. Paying homage to the true masters....This movie was beautiful.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.24.22	Definitely did not need to have that I liked it overall but there was a much better movie in there buried under a lot of extremely questionable choices
botulist 04.24.22	there wasn't though, in my opinion. having that casserole of aesthetic and gritty elements creates pretty passable simulacra, but it's all hollow. same with the joker. just lean into the kitsch, and leave the serious shit to proper artists. the movie's stars as always were set designers and make-up artists
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.24.22	Riddler being an incel redditor was also particularly dumb. The only quality that really distinguished Riddler from being a bargain bin Joker with riddles instead of jokes is his MO is that he wants to be smarter than Batman, not to be Batman’s boyfriend. He could have retained the whole zodiac killer thing without the internet dweeb shit and he should have actually know who Bruce Wayne was and lorded it over Batman but kept it to himself because it makes him feel like he “wins” the intellectual dick measuring contest that he figured it out.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.24.22	@bot I’d reckon most Batman fans don’t want a kitsch Batman movie tho, most people like Batman comics because they are dark and gritty.
CaliggyJack 04.24.22	Riddlers fucking website was so funny to me IT HAD LIKES AND FOLLOWS
Durrzo 04.24.22	"Riddler being an incel redditor was also particularly dumb." I feel the opposite. His internet army was almost uncomfortably real and that made it work for me. Every crazy person can find others just as warped as they are on the internet these days. Crazy likes company.
botulist 04.24.22	@Lorde - fair enough, although it should be clear-ish to them from both gritty and campy adaptations, that comic book fans aren't the target demographic of these movies anyway. the billion dollar box offices aren't all og fans.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.24.22	I’m sorry, I just want charismatic, menacing villains that you can’t help but love in my comic fodder, not an embittered virgin cringe mascot
botulist 04.24.22	like Varga from fargo season 3!
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.24.22	Varga is iconic as fuck
AnimalsAsSummit 04.24.22	Idk to me it wasn’t a casserole of aesthetics it was an extremely singular aesthetic the entire time. And yeah it was definitely professionals who did the creative choices here, can’t think of what more could you could want as far as style goes w Batman. The night club scene was a perfect example. Pure cinema ala The Matrix. The vibes were actually off the charts in this movie.
AnimalsAsSummit 04.24.22	Basically only thing missing was a Seal song. Like replace Cobain w Seal. My least favorite part was the Nirvana track. Would’ve preferred just an orchestral score tbh. But Seal at the credits would’ve made me cry.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.24.22	It deffs had a realized vibe
IsisScript80 04.24.22	Batman as a character, lends himself equally to camp and (for want of a better word) serious portrayals, both on screen and on paper. Too much of one, and there'd be a yearning for the other; he is, equally, the '60s Adam West portrayal and the 2000s Nolan version, and everything else. The "serious" incarnation can pack a punch; even today, the term "some people just want to see the world burn" from TDK has burrowed its way into mainstream consciousness, and much of that has become cultural touchstones. But yes, ultimately it is a rich guy in a bat costume punching people, and nothing can stop that being inherently silly when real world logic is applied. The character is around 80 years old, and will outlive us all... every possible iteration will no doubt be covered time and time again, using the basic character template.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.24.22	Camp Batman was already perfected with Batman the Brave and the Bold
AnimalsAsSummit 04.24.22	I never cared about actors in movies. They’re obviously acting. For me it’s always about the feel and look so a lot of stuff that didn’t have to do w that didn’t bother me here.
AnimalsAsSummit 04.24.22	My favorite camp Bat will always be Forever that movie owns
IsisScript80 04.24.22	"Camp Batman was already perfected with Batman the Brave and the Bold" Great series. Warner's animation department has quietly delivered the goods for decades.
AnimalsAsSummit 04.24.22	My favorite Batman show was probably Batman Beyond. So awesome.
SitarHero 04.24.22	Batman Beyond and TAS are both untouchable. The Phantom 2050 cartoon was similarly insanely good and thematically pretty similar to Batman Beyond.
SitarHero 04.24.22	Honestly, I wish they'd just roll with that actually reboot Batman as a Blade Runner-esque future crimefighter.
Wildcardbitchesss 04.24.22	give us live action Batman beyond
TheSonomaDude 04.24.22	give it about 9 months, the next batman reboot will be announced shortly
rabidfish 04.24.22	i think you kinda missed the point about how batman being perpetually emo and violent was actually something he needed to grow out of.
botulist 04.24.22	which he totally does and is a well-adjusted happy go lucky guy henceforth?
Dewinged 04.24.22	I liked it, but I agree with most of this. That cut scene with the joker... why leave it out??
rabidfish 04.24.22	Growth isn't done in a blink. I think the point of the flood symbolically is to mirror batman's tearing down of his identity. He must rebuild himself just as the city does
Egarran 04.24.22	Lol do you live in a cave?
rabidfish 04.24.22	What? Anyway the joker+riddler scene felt right out of Gotham the TV show. Really dumb but also it didnt feel off or incongruent with the tone of the movie
AnimalsAsSummit 04.24.22	This was like the one awesome movie I can think of to come out in a million years. People are gonna always have their complaints. I’m just glad we finally get a good superhero movie. An amazing superhero movie. Can’t even believe I’m saying those words!
botulist 04.25.22	182 blinks?
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.25.22	"which he totally does and is a well-adjusted happy go lucky guy henceforth?" likely a multi-film arch
CaliggyJack 04.25.22	"I feel the opposite. His internet army was almost uncomfortably real and that made it work for me. Every crazy person can find others just as warped as they are on the internet these days. Crazy likes company" Found the soyboy liberal cuck #MAGA #Cantcancelme #Factsnotfeelings
botulist 04.25.22	"likely a multi-film arch " come on, you know he'll be a sulky senile old boy in a retirement home with missile launchers strapped to his wheelchair, rolling around trying to fight a popsicle because he thinks it's Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Purpl3Spartan 04.25.22	Movie owned
Egarran 04.25.22	>What? Catwoman asked an ignorant batman if he lives in cave. Well I thought it was amusing.
fogza 04.25.22	Movie was solid, 7 out of 10
rabidfish 04.25.22	Wayne manor was dope as fuck
botulist 04.25.22	commenting so the thread doesn't die at 69 comments.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.25.22	I like the scene where he basically spray paints “I’m Batman” on the floor of the manor that is attended by maids who are not Alfred
botulist 04.25.22	hahaha. i'm going to start a band called "Maids who are not Alfred"
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.25.22	Alfred and the Maids That Are Not Alfred
botulist 04.25.22	yes!!
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.25.22	Lead singer dresses in full butler attire, everyone else dresses in sexy maid
IsisScript80 04.25.22	“commenting so the thread doesn't die at 69 comments.” Why not tap out on the sexiest amount of comments a thread can have?
botulist 04.25.22	for the same reason, I reckon, that i don't enjoy batman movies. older than 14.
IsisScript80 04.25.22	^ Ah well, good for you, User Who Is Older than 14.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.25.22	Lol
rabidfish 04.25.22	i'm not a little baby anymore! I like BIG BABY stuff now!
SitarHero 04.25.22	"Alfred and the Maids That Are Not Alfred" One of my favourite local punk bands is called "Steve and the Not Steves" and that name alone was enough to make me go to a show and watch them play.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.25.22	Love that
Egarran 04.25.22	Ugh grunge hits is going to become a movie thing now isn't it? Looking forward to AiC in a Wolverine movie.
SitarHero 04.25.22	"Looking forward to AiC in a Wolverine movie." Them Bones. Make it happen.
GhandhiLion 04.25.22	gritty
zakalwe 04.25.22	Why are you brain dead sullied fuckers not willing to resist this shit? The same franchised stuff being churned out time and time again in a different guise ad infitum. It’s not even questioned anymore, it’s got to the point where people would happily watch a 4hr cross over of the Lord of the Rings/Pokémon
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.26.22	you’re so powerful zak
CaliggyJack 04.26.22	Everybody hated Leto's joker for being a forced attempt at current yearing a character in cringy fashion. But we get the same result in Riddler and suddenly everybodies cool with it
SitarHero 04.26.22	If you read the comments you'd know not everybody is cool with it. Also, in terms of current yearing the character, the incel internet edgelord terrorist is a lot better an attempt than...face tattoos and grills? Also, as far as I know Paul Dano didn't turn into an actual incel edgelord in order to method act a shitty interpretation of the character, so that alone means his Riddler >>> Leto's Joker
CaliggyJack 04.26.22	Lol why is there this sudden hate for method acting? I see it on twitter too and everywhere
SitarHero 04.26.22	There's no hate for method acting. There's hate for method acting as the joker.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.26.22	Jared Leto is quite hatable
KevinKC 04.26.22	Your avatar screams "my opinion is insignificant."
IsisScript80 04.26.22	"Lol why is there this sudden hate for method acting? I see it on twitter too and everywhere" "There's no hate for method acting. There's hate for method acting as the joker." Method acting IS getting a backlash, as it is becoming (or has always been) an inconvenient indulgence, allowing actors to be complete cunts on set, opposed to simply putting on some makeup and reading someone else's words, as the default position requires. The aforementioned Jared Leto, so it came out, again went "method" for his titular role as Morbius, whereby due to the fact that the character was disabled at the start of the movie, Leto took this to the point of taking 45+ minutes to use the toilet and hold up production. All for a dogshit movie, anyway. Also, Tom Hardy going method as Mad Max, went to include severe intimidation towards Charlize Theron to the point of her feeling that she needed a female chaperone/bodyguard with her on set at all times for her own personal safety. "Turn up and say your lines, you overpaid, self-indulgent, self-important twats" is the general feeling we're heading towards in regards to these types of performers.
claygurnz 04.26.22	Jared Leto is a fucking weirdo
rabidfish 04.26.22	Actors are fucking weird, man. Add that the decadence of studio money and you get a set full of psychos
AnimalsAsSummit 04.26.22	"Turn up and say your lines, you overpaid, self-indulgent, self-important twats" Agreed
claygurnz 04.26.22	I like how the general feeling towards them is changing, before actors who method acted were seen as gods, it's good that people are realising how pretentious it really is.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.26.22	I forget who but some famous person made a point about how if you have to go to such lengths to ~become~ the role then you aren’t even really acting and that resonated with me A good actor should be able to snap in and out of the role. Because, you know…. Acting
cold 04.26.22	remember those sick Batman Forever glasses from McDonalds? yeh, me too
SitarHero 04.26.22	"Tom Hardy going method as Mad Max" Did he really? Yeesh.
botulist 04.26.22	what was there to be method about in mad max? drink a red bull every minute?
SitarHero 04.26.22	Maybe he lived in the desert drinking his own piss and eating lizards.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.26.22	Probably being batshit insane?
botulist 04.26.22	shame if that's true about behaving like an ass. i find him to be a quite decent actor, generally.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.26.22	I’ve read about it and apparently he is remorseful about it, let his inexperience get the best of him
Veks 04.26.22	Wait so Batman is the bad guy for punching criminals? Just let all of Arkham lose then. Defund Gotham police.
SitarHero 04.27.22	Defunding Gotham police would actually involve pouring more funds into Arkham asylum and maybe beefing up security and rehabilitation protocols so that the Joker doesn't sneak out every other weekend.
botulist 04.27.22	they should just have bane and joker be each other's parole officers.