loulou: Icelandic BM vs Polish BM

TheSpirit 04.21.22	iceland >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sunnyvale 04.21.22	Gotta go with Iceland!
DungeonBoy 04.21.22	Iceland is best, but Exercises in Futility is also best
Gameofmetal 04.21.22	Iceland easily.
botb 04.21.22	Iceland every time
Eakflanderyof 04.21.22	Most Icelandic bm is pretty boring but there are a couple gems
loulou 04.21.22	So you're more into Polish BM?
naughtcturnal 04.21.22	Iceland has bands like Skáphe, Misthyrming and Svartidaudi but poland has MGLA… MGLA is too good to ignore but Iceland seemingly has more good bands. Kinda hard to choose between both
loulou 04.21.22	Poland has a great scene too: blaze of perdition, kreigsmachine, mgla, furia, biesy, medico peste... Maybe they are more into the 2nd wave aesthetic.
Gameofmetal 04.21.22	Mgla kinda carry Poland but they're even somewhat overrated. Iceland has a shitload of bands at Mgla's level or higher.
TheSpirit 04.21.22	mgla is one of the most overrated bands in modern black metal
loulou 04.21.22	Just to be the devil's advocate, the polish drummers are impressive, Darkside and Namtar are better than any Icelandic drummers.
Boivin 04.28.22	Tu sais ben que c'est Islande voyons!
Heppasodge 09.15.22	@Eakflanderyof i kind of agree. Icelandic scene has sort of very surreal, stylish bm (like, smart, well-supported talented musicians making grim music as best they can) but poland has furia, odraza, mgla... it's just richer and more believable stuff imo. bm driven by entrenched economic problems, veiled by useless religion, long shadow of WWII... @TheSpirit hard disagree about mgla being overrated lol, they are that popular because they are that good. Mdlosci from 2006 should end that convo
zaruyache 09.15.22	mgla have perfected the "solid bm" orthodoxy and they're notable for doing explicitly that. a 4.5/5 band they are not tho
Heppasodge 09.15.22	like, they are also notable for probably the best drummer and integration of drumming in bm, completely unique melodic phrases, the archetype of nihilistic thematics in bm... i don't even think its correct to say they 'perfected' anything, it's just really compelling music. I don't even think their themes are particularly orthodox to be honest. they are pretty free of religious references, it's more like secular nihilism
ToSmokMuzyki 09.15.22	POLSKA KURWY!!
combustion07 09.15.22	I'd have to look at a full list of bands from both but off of the top of my head I'd say it goes to Iceland
Gameofmetal 09.15.22	idk i always thought mgla was just like a super solid regular ass modern black metal band with a notably good drummer. Never really got what was so mindblowing about them.
Heppasodge 09.15.22	the triumphant-ness and melodies probably, how it all hangs together. it's probably an emotion-type thing, you connect with it or not. but also how their themes pervade the music. and also the drumming lol
zaruyache 09.15.22	they're conceptually intriguing because they appear to weave all those unique things into otherwise-appearing straightforward bm.
Heppasodge 09.15.22	Agree for sure