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| Cobra Kai Characters Ranked
Ranking the characters of one of the best shows around right now, ahead of the Season 4 premiere early next year. (List is leads and main students only, so no Mrs LaRusso or any of the background students or minor characters.) | 12 | | Cobra Kai Complete Recordings
12. Samantha LaRusso
One of the very worst characters in modern serialised television. With a smiley, peppy nice-girl attitude masking a truly repulsive core, this petty, enabling, shallow and self-righteous wretch misses no opportunity to play the men in her life against each other, actively encouraging (and even LEADING) nearly every single act of violence, then turning on the crocodile waterworks and acting like she is the emotional victim of the situation SHE caused, and like Miguel, Robby and/or her father are at fault for acting on what SHE led them to think were her wishes. She is the worst kind of manipulative, pretending to be a flawless angel of innocence while being arguably worse than her rival (the supposed heel) who at least has the courage to show her true character, convictions and motives right from the off. Fuck this character, and not in a good way. | 11 | | Cobra Kai Complete Recordings
11. Tory
If Cobra Kai has one flaw, it is its portrayal of female characters – or at least, LEADING female characters. Sam LaRusso is by far the worst out of the two, but Tory – a late addition to the cast, blatantly to be an antagonist for Sam – is not much better, being the sort of tough-troubled-girl stereotype which, in 2021, is at least ten years out of date. Tory's brash, jumping-to-conclusions, flippy-floppy attitude, coupled with some of the worst dialogue in the entire series, place what was clearly meant to be the female Hawk at the opposite end of the list from her counterpart, and sadly leave Cobra Kai 0-for-2 in the strong female character department. | 10 | | Cobra Kai Complete Recordings
10. Robby
The character clearly designed to be the heartthrob of the series – right down to the Dawson's Creek hair and rebellious attitude hiding a heart of gold – instead comes across as an insufferable, wishy-washy brat, every bit as bad as his eventual girlfriend when it comes to flipping alliances on a dime, for shallow and often selfish reasons, then rationalising his actions so he never comes across as the bad guy – which, of course, is only true in his own mind, and that of his enabling waste of oxygen of a girlfriend. The opposite of his father in that he had everything to be an at least mildly likeable character, and instead ranks as one of the most hateful in the series. | 9 | | Cobra Kai Complete Recordings
9. Daniel LaRusso
Cobra Kai's main strenght, at least initially, is its ability to flip the viewer's allegiances brought over from Karate Kid, and make them root for who used to be the bad guy – and a large part of this comes down to Ralph Macchio's insufferably smug, petty and vindictive portrayal of the adult Daniel LaRusso. The incredibly likeable 'Daniel-San' from the original trilogy is shown to be an overgrown child who, for all his airs and graces of sophisticated bonhomie, is ultimately unable to let go of events from his high-school days, even three decades after the fact. The fact that he only gets worse as the show progresses – while Johnny becomes more and more justified in his actions – is a testament to the writing and acting on the show. | 8 | | Cobra Kai Complete Recordings
8.John Kreese
Out of the characters brought over from the original Karate Kid series, Kreese is the one who has changed the least. Like Daniel, he remains stuck in what was his peak period, refusing to acknowledge the changing times or even alter his mentality to reflect ageing and growth. And while he remains persuasive enough to almost sway Johnny back over to his way of seeing things (and teaching karate), his ultimate rejection by his star student, biggest admirer and surrogate son feels like not only a triumph for Johnny, but a deserved come-uppance for his refusal to change his heelish ways. | 7 | | Cobra Kai Complete Recordings
7. Aisha
Not a bad character by any means, but she is never anything more than simply 'there', not experiencing any major individual character growth. The fact that she is not missed once she exits the series in Season 3 – and that her replacements rank above her on this list – truly does say it all. Still, she is at least useful in separating the likeable characters from the unlikeable ones. | 6 | | Cobra Kai Complete Recordings
6. Stingray
Initially a forced comedic character, Stingray eventually wins the viewer over by being allowed to let the humour come from his personality, rather than the forced quips from his first appearance. His character – a thirtysomething retail-job lifer with the mindset of a nerdy teenager, and who feels most comfortable among people in that demographic – could easily have come across as creepy, but is instead portrayed as likeable and amusing thanks to – again – a great acting job from his actor. | 5 | | Cobra Kai Complete Recordings
5. Chris and Mitch
The most noteworthy of the supporting Cobra Kai students, they do not have enough solo moments to justify being split into two entries. Still, as a comedy duo, they work beautifully every time they are given material, with 'Assface' in particular being the vehicle for some great laughs and touching character moments. | 4 | | Cobra Kai Complete Recordings
4. Demetri
While some of his eventual success feels a little forced (him bagging the rich girl, in particular, is wish fulfillment at its best) his role as the Neville Longbottom of the series is well-realised enough that any over-the-top moments end up being forgivable. Plus, three seasons in, he remains an average fighter, at best, which is not only refreshing, but realistic; he may have landed one kick on Hawk, but like Hawk himself tells him, one kick does not make a fighter - and Demetri is not yet at the physical or mental level to be anything more than the mediocre karateka he is. | 3 | | Cobra Kai Complete Recordings
3. Miguel
Out of the main characters, Miguel is the one whose character stays the most consistent throughout the shows. While he sometimes wavers in his allegiances, he is justified every time it happens (unlike either member of the leading couple) and never reneges on his main bond with Johnny. The opposite of Hawk in that he deserves to succeed, and remains lovable even at his worst. | 2 | | Cobra Kai Complete Recordings
2. Johnny
Cobra Kai's main triumph is turning the bully from the original films into a relatable character the audience wants to root for. Like Miguel, Johnny stays true to his character all throughout the show, while also notably and visibly progressing as a person and as a karate teacher, to the point where he becomes deserving of the very best of luck with his dojo, and in his life in general. | 1 | | Cobra Kai Complete Recordings
1. Hawk
By far the best-developed character in this series. His transition from quiet, glowering nerd with a bad haircut and a worse sweater to loud, glowering ultra-heel with a bad haircut and a slightly better sweater is the kind of character arc that makes a show worth watching. One of the best love-to-hate characters since Prince Zuko in Avatar – and unlike Zuko, he is not due a redemptive moment anytime soon, nor does he deserve one. | |
ReturnToRock
12.04.21 | Been meaning to do this for a while, but while my thoughts are not as fresh as when I had just finished watching the show, a couple of months ago, they remain largely the same - mainly, fuck the LaRusso family, the true heels in this show. | TheNotrap
12.04.21 | It's all about Johnny for me. One of my favorite series of the last couple of years. Sweet nostalgia | theBoneyKing
12.04.21 | Came here hoping to see some Sam hate and was not disappointed. What an absolutely awful character. | theBoneyKing
12.04.21 | Danny also sucks in this show but he has occasional redeeming moments and seems to be intentionally written as an asshole. Whereas Sam is an awful spoiled brat without an ounce of personality. | ReturnToRock
12.04.21 | Danny is a well-written, intentional delusional heel who thinks he's in the right and acts accordingly. Kind of like Robby. Samantha is an UNintentional heel, who is SUPPOSED to be in the right, yet every time she sics her boys on the Cobra Kais, with very little provocation and often starting the whole incident, I wonder how on Earth you're supposed to side with this person.
She wasn't even that bad in S1, but in the latter two? Oof. | theBoneyKing
12.04.21 | Yeah, in S1 she’s just kind of there but gets progressively worse. I find it pretty implausible that all these boys are all over her when she’s such a dud personality wise and so obviously toxic. I guess it’s not too unreasonable given they’re teenagers but still.
Overall though it’s a really really great show, always compelling even when it becomes frustrating and when it leans hard on the cheese and melodrama factors (though I think it’s intentionally so). Some of the best character development I’ve seen in recent TV that does a surprisingly great job of being genuinely morally ambiguous and making it hard to know who to root for. It’s especially genius in the way that it complicates the source material without being disrespectful to it, and in how it avoids leaning on nostalgia (unlike practically every other 80s/90s reboot/modern sequel). Indeed a lot of the show is about grappling with the past in a very nuanced way that seems to be almost attacking or at least deconstructing the idea of nostalgia. It pulls just enough of the cheesy 80s elements to feel of a piece with the originals but it’s very self aware about it. | SitarHero
12.04.21 | So you're saying I should watch the show? | ReturnToRock
12.04.21 | @Boney I actually did not like S3 as much as the previous two because I felt it's beginning to go unironically OTT. Like, aside from the town's obsession with karate, which is sort of an in-universe thing for the show, it's starting to feel a bit ridiculous-trying-to-be-serious. We'll have to see if S4 scales these elements back down and becomes as good as S2, which was genuinely excellent and even better than S1.
@Sitar you should absolutely watch the show. And then watch GLOW while you're at it. Both some of the best shows I've seen lately, and sort of spoiled everything else I've watched since (Squid Game I found VERY overrated past Episode 1, and actually left unfinished after hating every single element of the Marbles episode.) | theBoneyKing
12.04.21 | S3 was def weaker overall but I’d still give it like a 7.5-8/10. Compared to S1 at like 8.5 and S2 a solid 9. | ReturnToRock
12.04.21 | It's actually exactly like the seasons in Avatar: TLA. Except there, I can go Book 2 - Book 3 - Book 1 or Book 2 - Book 1 - Book 3 depending on the day, and here it goes S2 - S1 - S3. Stranger Things is similar but THAT goes S1 - S3 - S2, and GLOW goes S1 - S3 - S2 as well. | Divaman
12.04.21 | It's all about Johnny for me. One of my favorite series of the last couple of years. Sweet nostalgia.(2) | ReturnToRock
03.14.22 | Bumped to remark on how much I ADORED S4, and how my opinion on Hawk not really being due a redemption arc changed. He ABSOLUTELY earned it this season, and it was the most satisfying and exhilarating moment of that type since Zuko's in Avatar S3. His fights with Kyler and Robbie in the tournament were everything, and the ending to that season was absolutely unexpected in every possible way.
Also, Terry Silver. | ReturnToRock
03.14.22 | With that said, the fact that some of the kids had had growth spurts when this was meant to follow on directly from S3 was hilariously awkward. Though, it did give us one of the best lines of dialogue in the entire show.
'That building is, like, five Nates away and we're at least 14 Nates high.'
'Please don't use me as a system of measurement.'
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