Friday13th: Prog - A Beginning - Discovery Rd 7

Friday13th 06.29.21	Since we are starting later, the voting will end Tuesday, July 6.
zakalwe 06.29.21	I’ve listened to Regal worm constantly since Jethro recommended it a few months ago. Honestly one of the best sput recs I’ve ever had if not the best. The melodies, folkiness, off kilter musical forays into weirdness are absolutely outstanding. Bloody love it.
TwigTW 06.29.21	This looks like a very interesting round!
e210013 06.29.21	Ok. We have here two British albums, one against the other. A British album of the classic prog era against a modern British album. It seems to be a very interesting journey too. So, that wins the favourite of the majority of us. At least I've a positive point. I only need to check Jethro's album. But, I'm in disadvantage in relation to him. He doesn't need to check none of them. So, he is going to have a very calm and tranquil week, probably a bit boring too. So, I'm going to have a calm and tranquil wekk, but not so calm and tranquil. Lol. Now, seriously, you can read my review about my album here on Sputnik. Maybe it can be useful to you. So, be my guest if you want. Besides, the only review about the album is mine. So, you don't have any other option, even if you don't like it. You know, we need to live with what we have. Lol. Nice week, guys. Vote on the album that you prefer. I hope that will be mine. But, if you chose the other, no problem. No regrets. I'm big enough to live with it. Lol.
Jethro42 06.29.21	Me against my good friend e21 to make a change! I've seen that match up coming from far away. If I'm taking for your knight, will you take for mine? LOL. You have Rick Wakeman by your side, which gives me shivers down my spine, but I am confident with my entry. Yours is from the old school among the classic realm, and mine is a modern music flirting with the 70's, but keeping a big sense of contemporary experimentation. It's sophisticated and simple at the same time. Don't get me wrong, e21, I will revisit both albums one or two times, even if I know them well...just to see their difference or their similarities still more. I can't wait about the reaction of the contestants. Have a good one, you all, especially for my opponent.
wham49 06.29.21	this might be tough for 1, everybody is already familiar to a certain extent with the Strawbs, one of my first round failures was with Ghosts
Jethro42 06.29.21	Yes, Strawbs is a tranquil force.
Jethro42 06.29.21	@zak, it was a pleasure to show you Regal Worm. I hope you'll continue having as much fun to listen to it as from the debut.
porcupinetheater 06.29.21	Sister showed me Regal Worm about a year ago and it’s a doozy, Strawbs is going to have to Bring. It. to sneak in and steal the win
Jethro42 06.29.21	I hope you will listen to my entry at least once, champion...
Friday13th 06.29.21	Found 2 at the local record store and have yet to listen to it. I'm also excited for this round.
Jethro42 06.29.21	Does it include the famous ''The Vision Of The Lady Of The Lake''? Cos that song doesn't show on Youtube...
Friday13th 06.29.21	@Jethro Don't think so. Progarchives lists it as a bonus track. Is the live version especially good?
Inoculaeted 06.29.21	Never heard this infamous Strawbs before...
Divaman 06.29.21	Looking forward to this round.
Jethro42 06.30.21	Glad you're back on your feet again, Diva. Sorry to respond only now, Friday. Original song is better with more depht. The live one is, as expected, acoustic with only acoustic guitar and Wakeman's modest piano playing. Vocals are often over the top, but he brings lots of emotions, just as the original. It's worth a listen, assuredly.
Friday13th 06.30.21	@Jethro No problem. I'll have to check it out. I have not heard Strawbs' music prior to Witchwood, so it should be a treat. Btw this Regal Worm album is fantastic.
Jethro42 06.30.21	@Friday; This actual live album (which contains almost exclusively new material) is the best thing they did prior to Witchwood. Their first two albums are pure folk with a very few prog allusion. I will have to revisit these obscur albums, but ''The Man Who Called Himself Jesus'', ''Where is This Dream Of Your Youth'' (The live album has an extended version of this one), ''The Battle'' and ''The Vision Of The Lady Of The Lake'' are essential songs from these. Soon, I'll probably add some others to listen to, just for you :) Glad you found something of your taste from my entry, but it's not gonna be an easy task to confront my dude e21
e210013 06.30.21	Thanks guys by talking so much about Strawbs, especially by my good old friend Jethro. I sign under all he said about Strawbs. It always was one of my favourite prog bands of the 70's. He is absolutelly true. "Just A Collection Of Antiques And Curios" is actually, chronologically the third album of the band. Despite technically be a live album, in reality it's an album with new material. All their albums since this one till "Ghosts" are all excellent albums that deserve to be checked, especially "Grave New World" and "Hero And Heroine", which are my favourites. About the two first ones, Jethro is also right. They're more two traditional folk albums but where we can see some prog lines, namely, ''The Man Who Called Himself Jesus'', ''The Battle'' and especially ''The Vision Of The Lady Of The Lake''. They're very nice to check too. Recently, "The Ferryman's Curse" is also a great album, the best since "Ghosts" and deserves to be checked. And for what I read, the last one "Settlement" sems to be interesting to check too, but I didn't have the opportunity to check it yet, but it's in my list. Finally, I whant to say one more thing. Besides Strawbs be an old friend of mine, one of my favourites of the 70's, Strawbs is with Jethro Tull and with Mostly Autumn, a more modern band, as my three favourite prog/folk bands. About the album chosen by my friend Jethro, I'm very curious about it. I'm sure that it's a great album. I'm sure this will be another very strong and interesting journey too. Have fun with it, my friends.
Mythodea 06.30.21	two prog-master users coming head to head in this round. Should be fun!
e210013 06.30.21	Glad you're back on your feet again, Diva. This wouldn't be the same with you my friend. Besides, I know that you like Strawbs and I'm sure you will like Regal Worm too. So, it seems this will be a nice journey to you. At least, I hope so.
Zig 06.30.21	Guyz, I’m on my honeymoon. I won’t be able to check this round, I think. Have a great week, proggers!
Mythodea 06.30.21	Honeymoon without prog? What kind of tomfoolery is this? Have the time of your lives (so far) you beutiful couple, you!
e210013 06.30.21	Honeymoon? What a surprise. I expected that you was in vacations, but honeymoon...Wow, that is really a great and amazing thing. I really hope you have the best honeymoon, pal. I wish you the best to you, which is, obviously extensive to the couple. And Mythodea, I think Zig won't have much time to spend with prog. There are surelly some other great things and certainly much interesting to do. Parabéns, amigo. Um grande abraço. Diverte-te.
Divaman 06.30.21	Hey Zig, congratulations! Morning guys. Jethro vs. e this week. That's intense!
Jethro42 06.30.21	@Myth and Diva; I bet it's arranged by Friday. Good round everyone! Congratulations, Zig!
e210013 06.30.21	Yeah, Friday is a naughty boy. Lol.
porcupinetheater 06.30.21	Zig you have every day for the rest of your life to focus on your marriage. Regal Worm vs Strawbs happens once in a lifetime
Jethro42 06.30.21	:) I wish both had classic era prog albums. It would make flames!
bgillesp 06.30.21	Nice
e210013 06.30.21	"I wish both had classic era prog albums. It would make flames." The problem is from you, my friend. Mine is. Lol.
Mythodea 06.30.21	ohhhhhh, buuuuuuuurn
Jethro42 06.30.21	Yeah e21 lol. I've crossed over some good albums from the classic era, and I think it's easier to find modern albums under 30 votes.
Jethro42 06.30.21	Burn Baby Burn, DISCO INFERNO...
Mythodea 07.01.21	So, I've listened to Regal Worm three times already, and I have MANY things to say about this beauty. First of all, I think it's a slow burner, it needs time to be fully digested. Lyrics are probably the most fresh element, as they're very short, full of imagery, strange stories (some Comus vibes even), but not pseudocryptic. The music is not your typical modern prog, although it's not characteristically retro either. I can trace many bands here, from King Crimson, to Pink Floyd, and even early era David Bowie!
Mythodea 07.01.21	Ι mean, in the middle of the Dreaded Lurg, the song goes full ''Saucerful of Secrets''
Inoculaeted 07.01.21	song goes full ''Saucerful of Secrets'' H Y P E
Jethro42 07.01.21	I tried and I don't see similarities with Saucerful Of Secrets. I'm more familiar with Dark Side, Wish You Were Here, Animals and The Wall, and of course, Meddle. I can trace early Genesis as well. Not sure about King Crimson. Glad you appreciate, Myth.
Mythodea 07.01.21	Ι do... The middle psychedelic part of Dreaded Lurg, with the bass sounds and trans vocals and drumming, brought to mind ''Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun''
Jethro42 07.01.21	I will find out. Is it just before the lyrics about a forest? Damn, it doesnt come naturally to me...
bgillesp 07.02.21	Oh man I’m behind this week. I just finished moving today so hopefully I can catch up this weekend
Divaman 07.02.21	Diabolical matchup by Friday this round.
bgillesp 07.02.21	Also I totally concur with the Regal Worm-King Crimson comparison
zakalwe 07.02.21	Strawbs offered up a lovely alternative to the other contenders in this tournament but for me it’s Regal Worm. Pig Views.
Mythodea 07.02.21	Strawbs feels so different from what we've heard so far. Drumming is not that prominent, guitars are primarily acoustic and the vocals remind me quite enough the likes of Bob Dylan (although sometimes I also feel like I'm listening to Peter Gabriel). The instrumentation is loose, and comes off as folk-rockish, although I realize it's because we're dealing with proto-prog here. Curious album, indeed!
Jethro42 07.02.21	I'm ready to vote. I know Antiques And Curios since a decade or two, and I only know my entry since the spring. @Myth, Antiques And Curios reminds me of some Cat Stevens at times, thanks to the acoustic guitars, and as for Peter Gabriel, Cousins vocals and tonalities are similar for both. Cousin has nasal voice though. Pig Views is colorful, with full of emotional movements mainly expressed by keyboards and synths. It's very melodic and imaged. It's sophisticated and simple in the same time. It's punchy and pastoral. It's sparsed and tight, always deep. It's varied, insistent and psychotic at times. It's like an open book that one read with a pleasure. We would ask for more Antiques and Curios is a brillant live album released in a transitional time where the band abandoned folk pop to focus in prog folk. Album represents well the things to come, especially of the same modello as From The Witchwood, their last album featuring Rick Wakeman. Songs in Antiques And Curios are all excellent ditties, with a big sense for melody. For those whom are not used to the album, songs may seem almost all the same, but in fact, they’re all of the same style, but they’re all quite different. We find great melodies everywhere, and I like Rick Wakeman solo performance, but the entire thing feels somewhat dated, considering the fact it's from 1970. Hot struggle, but my vote goes to my entry, Pig Views
Friday13th 07.02.21	2:0 zakalwe Jethro
Friday13th 07.03.21	The line “Karen don’t go there” on track 5 of Pig Views takes on new meaning since its initial release LOL
Divaman 07.03.21	Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. It made me go back and see what year it was released. :)
Friday13th 07.03.21	I’m going to have to vote for Pig Views. It is a fun album. Very melodic and reminiscent of Caravan or Gong, but also some modern touches. The first track and “Huge Machine” really show off the the strengths of whimsical melodies with punchy but lush instrumentation. Electronic sounds and jazz chords throughout keep it interesting. I will say the rhythm section (bass and drums) could be more involved, but then it might sound too much like Yes or some other 70s group. As it is, it sounds old school and modern at the same time. The Strawbs “Curios” album is really quite true to its name. I do really like every time Wakeman comes in, giving astounding early performances. My issue is the album lacks cohesion, with some of Cousins’ more expected folk numbers contrasting greatly with the classical piano and even raga sections. The final tracks on both sides are the highlights and well worth checking out.
Friday13th 07.03.21	3:0 zakalwe Jethro Friday
bgillesp 07.03.21	At least they spell it Karin in the liner notes
Friday13th 07.03.21	@Jethro People here don’t seem to like Regal Worm’s debut much, but others like on rym praise it about equally to Pig Views. How does it compare to Pig Views?
Jethro42 07.03.21	@Friday; It's assuredly more experimental, and harder to tame. It's also more repetitive, with more start and stop patterns. I can see your Gong reference still more. In fact, it's like Pig Views part 1. You would dig it for sure. Pig Views is more catchy, more accessible, though. Their 3 albums are mental in the best possible ways...
wham49 07.03.21	I love the Strawbs, but sometimes they put too much folk into their music. I love folk but we are listening to prog right now. folk-prog is not doing it for me this week. I go with 1
Friday13th 07.03.21	4:0 zakalwe Jethro Friday wham
Friday13th 07.03.21	@Jethro cool, I'll have to check it out.
someone 07.03.21	fuck me Regal Worm is great
someone 07.03.21	we might be seeing a frightening trend here, because i too vote for 1 this is honestly the first pairing, where the two presented albums are not even close to one another. Strawbs is fine enough, but i mostly found it just that: fine enough, for one listen at least. vote for Regal Worm
Friday13th 07.03.21	5:0 zakalwe Jethro Friday wham someone
Friday13th 07.03.21	To sing some more praises of the Strawbs album, it is certainly good for 1970. We do need to keep in mind that prog was still in its infancy in 1970. Barring a few fully formed examples from bands like King Crimson, ELP, and Van Der Graaf Generator, etc., there was still a lot of cross-over between other more established genres like folk and psychedelic rock.
Friday13th 07.03.21	2 is certainly an important and underrated transition for Strawbs, though I think their next few albums are ultimately better.
Jethro42 07.03.21	To appreciate still more Antiques And Curios, we have to get to know album From The Witchwood. There are great ditties to discover in this album too. In the same vein, but they evolved towards improved folk stuff, yet even touching prog folk for the good.
Pangea 07.04.21	Regal Worm is excellent. It's very varied, but yet remains focused and cohesive. I thought that every track offered something new and they were all exciting all the way through Strawbs is a nice folk rock album. I liked the occasional classical influences too. However, there wasn't all that much that stuck to me after listening. My vote is for Regal Worm
Divaman 07.04.21	This was a very tough vote. I like the Regal Worm album a lot. I did feel like there were some lags -- the first four or so songs are excellent, whereas after that, it's a bit more hit and miss for me. But this is certainly right in my prog sweet spot, and if this album makes it through this round (and it's certainly off to a strong start), it should be a powerful contender throughout the tournament. As for the Strawbs LP, I agree with what some of you have said re/I don't think it's quite as powerful the series of albums that came directly after this, which is where Strawbs really hit their stride. Regardless of this, Strawbs has always been one of my favorite bands, and this is Strawbs with one of their most powerful lineups. "Song of a Sad Little Girl" is exquisite. I wavered on this vote a little, but I'm voting for Strawbs.
Inoculaeted 07.05.21	I never heard Strawbs before so I'm feeling like this wasn't a great representation of what they are about. It's pleasant enough and quite pretty at times, but relatively safe. My vote is going Regal Worm, which was truly weird yet hypnotic and I feel like it will grow over multiple listens.
bgillesp 07.05.21	I like Strawbs a lot, and this album was good, but I’ve gotta go along with everyone else here because that Regal Worm album is some weird goodness that I want to keep coming back to. Regal Worm for me
MrSirLordGentleman 07.05.21	Sadly I only had time to listen once to each of these this week, but I'll go with 1. I really like Strawbs and this live is pretty cool, but you can clearly see how the best stuff was yet to come
e210013 07.05.21	After 4 auditions of "Pig Views" and one re-listen of "Just A Collection Of Antiques And Curious: Regal Worm - Pig Views: "Pig Views" has some complex, rich and dense music with plenty of variations and stylistic changes. The final result is a kind of a weird irreverent album with dense and complex compositions. The music is influenced by diverse styles, such as, prog, jazz, folk, pop and even some anarchic post-punk. I cannot see a clear style on the album. So, my only complaint is that is has probably too much influences in the same album. However, it never spoils the ballance all over the album. Overall, we can say this is a great, original and very creative work. Strawbs - Just A Collection Of Antiques And Curious: "Just A Collection Of Antiques And Curious" is a transitional album of Strawbs, the album that makes the transition of a folk band to a prog/folk band. It represents also a transition between the music of the 60's to the music of the 70's, as happened with many other albums of the time, for instance, the three first albums of Jethro Tull. It can perfectly seen, mainly due to the inclusion of Wakeman as a band's member. This isn't a pure prog album. We mustn't forget it was released in 1970. But, it has all the ingedients of their future sound. "Pig Views" rated with 4.0. "Just A Collection Of Antiques And Curious" rated with 4.0. Both albums are excellent. One is an album that belongs to the British classic prog era and the other shows that some of the British prog artists are able to carry on with innovation. My vote goes to Strawbs without any surprise. I love very much Strawbs and I really think this is a great album, the first of their classic era, an album very important to the growth of what would be called prog music. As a parallelism it also comes to my mind "Trespass" of Genesis. Both albums aren't certainly their best, perfect and most prog too, but both are probably their most pure and naïve works, two excellent works I really love.
TwigTW 07.05.21	sh*t, it's monday, where did that week go!?
Friday13th 07.05.21	9:2 zakalwe Jethro Friday wham someone Pangea Inoculaeted bgillesp Gentleman Divaman e21
Mythodea 07.05.21	Yeah, that was weird... .I'm hopefully voting in a few hours
Friday13th 07.05.21	I said you guys can vote tomorrow, July 6th. Here in the US it's a holiday on the 4th and 5th so makes sense to give a little more time.
SharkTooth 07.05.21	Damn I first read the 8th instead of the 6th and now I'm panic listening to both before the round ends
Mythodea 07.05.21	I've extensively written about Regal Worm, so I think this time I'm taking some space to express my thoughts about Strawbs. I didn't even know they existed, so Antiques and Curios is the first album I've ever listened by them. People say it needs quite some context to understand it as an album, but I don't have it. As a proto-prog release, it's obvious it relies on different compositional formulas than other albums we've heard on this tournament. Most obvious is the use of acoustic guitars (perhaps exclusively?) and articulate but laid back drumming. It's more folky and rock, than progressive, but adimmetedly we're witnessing history. I actually enjoyed this different path of progressive and I wonder what would have happened if this sound dominated, and prog was built on America, Neil Young and Bob Dylan. Perhaps we could search for this genealogy of prog sometime. In this sense, Strawbs taste different on this album compared to other prog acts. The piano is of course excellent, and I like the small classical influences that find their way into the piece and the audience has a laugh. It might be one of the warmest moments in this tournament. Moreover, the closing track is amazingly executed, catchy even for a 10 minute composition, and it's evidence to Wakeman's talent. In my mind, both albums are excellent (4), albeit for many different reasons. One is part of prog's foundations and hints to a mythical ''what if?'', the other is a fresh take on neo-prog, with tasteful genre mixing. I'm going with Strawbs.
Friday13th 07.05.21	9:3 zakalwe Jethro Friday wham someone Pangea Inoculaeted bgillesp Gentleman Divaman e21 Mythodea
wham49 07.05.21	reading some of the comments sourounding the year relesed of the Strawbs. Yes it is early and they are changing from good old folk to prog folk to later mainly prog with some folk sprinkled it. I get that. This album is good no doubt. But I do bto think i would revisit it very often as it is not for me especially after listening to all this other prog lately, the year gains it extra points and I am a 70's man for sure but I just plain liked the other album better without bringing into it the outside influences that would make me like the album or dislike an album more "To appreciate still more Antiques And Curios, we have to get to know album From The Witchwood." I do know that album pretty well and is one of my least fave of the strawbs albums, I like Grave new world and Ghosts way better
Jethro42 07.05.21	wham is not in a good mood :). All I wanted to say is that the closest to Antiques and Curios is arguably From the Witchwood. Same style, same intention; prog folk with a big folk turn. I personally like Witchwood very much.
Jethro42 07.05.21	@normaloctagon, have you listened to both albums, cos you need to.
Friday13th 07.05.21	10:3 zakalwe Jethro Friday wham someone Pangea Inoculaeted bgillesp Gentleman normaloctagon Divaman e21 Mythodea
e210013 07.06.21	@ Mythodea Since this is your baptism with this band and you liked it, I advise you to check their other stuff from the 70's already mentioned by me, especially "Grave New World" and "Hero And Heroine", which are my favourites, followed by "Ghosts" and "From The Witchwood". They're simply superb but in a way very different, the first one is more acoustic than the second one. Besides, some acoustic sound was always a trademark of the band due to the use of acoustic guitar by their leader and founder Cousins. It's perfectly normal to listen the acoustic and electric guitars at the same time. Both Cousins and their electric guitarist Lambert play frequently both. Strawbs since "Hero And Heroine" became a less acoustic band due to the addition of Lambert. So, "Grave New World" and "Hero And Heroine" are somehow the best parts of both worlds.
TwigTW 07.06.21	This is a tough week. Both of these albums are great in different ways. Two of the tournament's best, but I would expect nothing less from Jethro and e! As much as I enjoyed Regal Worms, the Strawbs charmed me. Rick Wakeman was a nice surprise too. So... my vote goes to Strawbs.
Mythodea 07.06.21	@e21 Ok, that's a great map of their vast discography, so I'll be checking them. I'm interested to see this acoustic part of prog
e210013 07.06.21	Be my guest. It's a pleasure. One more thing. After check this stuff, and if you like what are you listened, you can check their penult album of 2017 "The Ferryman's Curse". It represents the return to their prog roots of their good old days.
Mythodea 07.06.21	Ι see they put out an album this year. Is it any good?
e210013 07.06.21	Sincerely I never had the opportunity to check it. But according what I read it seems to be nice.
MiloRuggles 07.06.21	Fuck, forgot to listen to these. Probably can't within the next 24 hours either. Will report back in the next thread if not this one though
Divaman 07.06.21	I picked up the new Strawbs LP. It has a couple of good tracks on it, but I wasn't blown away. Dave's voice is starting to go.
e210013 07.06.21	Yeah, I agree with you Diva. The main problem with the band I think is the voice of Cousins. He isn't properly a baby. He is a bit much older than we both are. This is a real pity, but this is the way the things are.
Divaman 07.06.21	Yep. Like Mick said, "Time waits for no one." Sad though. I've always really liked Dave Cousins. Saw him and the band in concert in 2018 or so, and they were still quite enjoyable.
zakalwe 07.06.21	Cousins is late 70s or possibly even early 80s now isn’t he? Are you mid sixties as well e?
Divaman 07.06.21	Wikipedia has Dave Cousins at 81.
TheIntruder 07.06.21	I was very busy in this week. But I agree with Twig. Both albums are great, but I prefer the charme of Strawbs. In reality, I knew the album since the review of e21 and I always became in love with it. The other is also good but I don't think I am going to listen to it very often. So, Strawbs.
e210013 07.06.21	Yeah Zak. I'm 63 years old. I'm probably the second eldest guy here on Sputnik. This is the reason why I'm a prog fan. I became to listen to music in 1974, 16 years old. So, I'm a son of prog. Imagine, I begin to listened to music in the golden era of what to became known as prog. Some of the best prog albums didn't exist at that time. I'm a man of the vinyl era, the time where we what to listen to great music we needed to buy the records or that our close friends let us borrow them. A time of share. A time of great friends. Amazing times, indeed.
TheIntruder 07.06.21	Yours story reminds me the story of my father, e21. He always said to me that those where great, amazing and crazy times, unforgettable times.
zakalwe 07.06.21	As diva knows I’m fascinated by the musical past and how it was interpreted at the time, how it impacted young minds and dictated the culture around it. Everything since the 70s has been ‘borrowed’ to some extent. Being a young teen listening to something like ‘The Musical Box’ in the early 70s. Amazing.
zakalwe 07.06.21	For the record my dad is 66 and thought it was all shite.
e210013 07.06.21	Nice to know that Intruder. But, in my case, in those times, we had just come out of a dictatorship. Those were times of freedom. So, that is the reason why we could check that music. Before, that wasn't possible. Salazar was a man that wanted to close our country to the rest of the world and hated that we could know what was happening in the rest of the world. He wanted to keep everything stable and immutable. So, the way to do that was to close the country to the world. He said: "We are proudly to be alone".
e210013 07.06.21	Great zak.
Divaman 07.06.21	It's true - I've written to zak extensively about how I experienced all of this music, and what I saw of its reception in my part of the world.
zakalwe 07.06.21	Makes you wonder if there’s anyone under the age of 16 listening to something like Regal Worm and having their head spun by it. I hope so.
Jethro42 07.06.21	So many memories come to mind, e21, as I read you. During the seventies and early 80s, all the friends borrowing vinyls from one to another...taping both the best songs and the classic rock music coming from the radio as well. I also remember all these vinyls coming from my friends' grand brothers. All that music I came to know all around.
Jethro42 07.06.21	@zak, according to the general young sputnik member tendancies, that youth is more like metalhead. For instance, my son is 22 yo and he's mostly listening to Gojira, Trivium, Avenged Sevenfold, Metallica, Mudvayne, System Of A Down, etc. No prog to be found.
e210013 07.06.21	And this is the reason why I love so much Strawbs. It was one of the first bands I listened, not this album but "From The Witchwood" and "Grave New World". For instance, "Grave New World" is one of my first vinyls. And I can asure you that the vinyl has an amazing quality sound and also an amazing art cover with all the lyrics and some amazing drawings about the individual tracks. It's one of the best albums I own in terms of art work.
Inoculaeted 07.06.21	Jethro, your son is going down the same path as me. Gojira is the start of his road to prog. From Mars to Sirius through L'enfant Sauvage are some classic cornerstones of present day prog metal, so he will probably branch out from there and it's only a matter of time before he realizes there's decades of brilliance from the before times.
porcupinetheater 07.06.21	“Everything since the 70s has been ‘borrowed’ to some extent.” Tbf everything’s borrowing from somewhere, 70s included. There’s plenty of contemporary stuff that’s as spontaneous generation’d as anything from 50 years ago, the online distribution/streaming model just throws an iron curtain between more obscure acts and any sort of larger cultural impact Ain’t no Velvet Undergrounds anymore
Mythodea 07.06.21	I think online distribution makes it easier to find obscure acts... Big names of the past were the result of (talent, of course, but) mainly advertisement and promotion, which has become wider nowadays with streaming platforms, so ''big names'' can't come out as easily Another result of post-modern circulation, I guess
Jethro42 07.06.21	@e21 I didn't have always the original paper bag or carton inside the album, cos when you buy used copies. I had the sound quality though. Strangely, I haven't listened to Strawbs before the mid nineties. An older friend of mine showed me these guys. I was astounished about that so appealing music.
zakalwe 07.06.21	Too much despondency in who represents the youth for anyone to ever be a big name nowadays. Bands aren’t spokesmen for a generation unless they’re doing tik tok videos and marketing themselves which massively dilutes the music.
Jethro42 07.06.21	@Inoculaeted, if you say so, great!...He also digs King Gizzard. He tries to convert me and I'm trying the same. The only classic prog he likes is probably Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick. I think he's sensible, when he reads something about prog, he tells me about it, and he seems to be interested himself.
Jethro42 07.06.21	Agreed, zak!
SharkTooth 07.06.21	Damn Strawbs is getting bodied in this round! To be fair, upon listening, I can see why, both records are excellent, but Pig Views has a lot of creative instrumentation going on
porcupinetheater 07.06.21	Jethro get yr offspring into Toby Driver
Inoculaeted 07.06.21	Give him Crack the Skye by Mastodon! After he falls down that rabbit hole tell him the drummers favorite album is The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. Bingo, you got yourself a prog kid.
Jethro42 07.06.21	Good idea, porc. I think my son could dig maudlin Of The Well, or Kayo Dot...
Jethro42 07.06.21	Yes, Inoculaeted, I was aware about Mastodon drummer liking The Lamb. It's a good path you present to me.
wham49 07.06.21	have him dig Iced Earth as well
Jethro42 07.06.21	@wham, I think he knows Alive In Athens already.
wham49 07.06.21	days of purgatory
Divaman 07.06.21	My kids don't really like prog, but some of their friends have shown an interest. I showed one of my son't friends a link to a live version of Nightwish's "The Greatest Show on Earth" a few weeks ago, and he was so blown away he made a different friend come and watch the clip with us. The second kid (who is a working singer/musician) was even more blown away.
Jethro42 07.06.21	^Odd way to introduce someone into prog.
Divaman 07.06.21	Ya gotta know your audience.
Jethro42 07.06.21	Oh wait...Some of the soft parts remind me of Mostly Autumn at some point. I could do without the heavy parts.
e210013 07.06.21	My both sons like prog. The eldest, with 31 years old, always had a heavier taste, but right now is more prog in a moderate way. He even bought some vinyls, such as "Thick As A Brick", "Wish You Were Here" and "Queen II", for instance. The youngest, with 25 years old, is even more prog. He likes very much of many prog bands I like, even from the good old days. My only complaint is that he dislike of one of my fave prog bands, Gentle Giant. But, by the other hand he loves Camel. He even encoureged and accompanied me to see them in their "Moonmadness" live tour. He paticularly loves "Snow Goose". So, I don't have a real reason to complaint. I always was a great educater. Lol.
Divaman 07.06.21	My kids and their friends mostly like hip-hop.
Friday13th 07.07.21	10:5 zakalwe Jethro Friday wham someone Pangea Inoculaeted bgillesp Gentleman normaloctagon Divaman e21 Mythodea Twig Intruder
bgillesp 07.07.21	Wow, Strawbs hanging on
Divaman 07.07.21	Barely, though.
Friday13th 07.07.21	I'm going to have to call it for Regal Worm now.
Jethro42 07.07.21	Too bad, one has to leave the building. As an old timer, I really love Antiques And Curios.
TwigTW 07.08.21	Yeah, they are both wonderful. This was a great round.
e210013 07.08.21	Thanks for your kind words Twig, in what concerns to me. However, I'm sure that Jethro has the same opinion.
Jethro42 07.08.21	Of course!
Zig 03.16.22	would have voted for Regal Worm.