JeremiahBullfrog
08.04.20 | Part 2 in my Daily film ranking lists. |
dedex
08.04.20 | I'll go 3 > 2 > 1 but they're all perfect so any ranking is cool |
Egarran
08.04.20 | 1 is the most RPG so that wins.
Wasn't a fan of the op ghosts in 3. |
hel9000
08.04.20 | nice, i'd go 1>2>3. Fellowship is close to perfect and Moria is the best part in any of the movies imo.
^ big agree about the ghosts, always bugged me how they just literally wiped out the opposing army at Gondor in a matter of seconds. |
JeremiahBullfrog
08.04.20 | yeah that was slightly anticlimatic as was how quick the witch-king's fate was |
ReturnToRock
08.04.20 | *reverses list*
Fixed. |
TheNotrap
08.04.20 | The Fellowship of The Ring
The Return of The King
The Two Towers
All classics, nevertheless
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DrGonzo1937
08.04.20 | "The Fellowship of The Ring
The Return of The King
The Two Towers"
[2] this.
Two towers is by far the worst one |
Rowhaus
08.04.20 | Never met anyone who bashes two towers, nor do I mean to |
zakalwe
08.04.20 | It’s generally best to worst in chronological order but Helms Deep (snigger) is the highlight of the Trilogy which stands as THE greatest trilogy in film. |
JokineAugustus
08.04.20 | Waiting on pots hatred. Reverse order for me, but all are close to perfect imo. |
garas
08.04.20 | [3]
And they're all classics indeed. I could watch them over and over and over and over again - like re-reading the books. |
JokineAugustus
08.04.20 | I've seen them each at least 10 times, likely more though. |
JeremiahBullfrog
08.04.20 | can watch them year after year |
Bedex
08.04.20 | the correct ranking is 1,2,3 > everything else |
outliers
08.04.20 | Never met anyone who bashes two towers, nor do I mean to
[2] |
FellHanded
08.04.20 | Two Towers intro still gives me shivers. The white mountains, the music and the faint sound of Gandalf's voice. You just know the movies gonna be epic. |
JeremiahBullfrog
08.04.20 | WHY CANT WE HAVE SOME MEAT?! |
FellHanded
08.04.20 | THEY ARE NOT FOR EATING. |
JeremiahBullfrog
08.04.20 | GET BACK SCUM |
JeremiahBullfrog
08.04.20 | so quotable too |
outliers
08.04.20 | POOOOOOOO TAYYYYYYYYYY TOOOOOESSSSSS |
riffariffic7
08.04.20 | Fellowship of the Ring is not only my favorite Lord of the Rings film, but it's also my favorite fantasy-adventure movie. I love the practical effects, the terrifying atmosphere felt once they leave the Shire, the excellent fight sequences (especially Aragorn vs. Lurtz), an incredible score. Everything about Fellowship just fires on all cylinders. A perfect film. |
JeremiahBullfrog
08.04.20 | thing is that could be aplied to all 3 Riff. Thats how good they are.
BOIL EM, MASH EM, PUT EM IN A STEW, OOO LOVELY GOLDEN CHIPS |
Egarran
08.04.20 | https://imgur.com/a/jry3Yhx
>it's also my favorite fantasy-adventure movie
Yeah definitely. I don't know what comes even close. Wait. WILLOW. |
garas
08.04.20 | Noooo you can't eat more lembas!
Haha, my belly go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. |
riffariffic7
08.04.20 | I think the last-two movies suffer ever so slightly from an overreliance on CGI; obviously not to the extent of The Hobbit films. Fellowship feels authentic, whereas Twin Towers takes me out with those walking tree creatures. How the hell people can call Twin Towers the best of this trilogy is beyond me. Even Viggo has said that he prefers Fellowship over the other two. |
bloc
08.04.20 | Entire trilogy is god mode. The extended cuts are even better |
Egarran
08.04.20 | EVEN VIGGO |
Rowhaus
08.04.20 | TAKE IT OFF US |
FellHanded
08.04.20 | im a sucker for fantasy shit so the walking trees didnt bother me. what sealed TT as the best film for me is the battle at helms deep. obviously battle for minis tirith is also god tier, but the whole atmosphere, the push and pull of the battle, is just fucking amazing |
Trebor.
08.04.20 | Two Towers extended is probably my fave while Two Towers theatrical cut is my least fave |
Divaman
08.04.20 | This order is exactly right. |
JDubb
08.04.20 | All 3 great - especially the extended versions |
Emim
08.04.20 | RotK has both Theoden's and Aragorn's speeches in it so it's impossible for it to be last. |
Rowhaus
08.04.20 | Fellowship takes the cake for me. Perfect pacing, great acting, awesome world building, stellar action sequences, and jaw-dropping visuals. You really can't top that Balrog scene. |
Zig
08.04.20 | TTT>TRotK>TFotR |
ShadowRemains
08.04.20 | send forth all legions
do not stop the attack until the city is taken
SLAY THEM ALLLLLL |
riffariffic7
08.04.20 | Yeah. Return of the King is a close second behind Fellowship for me. It's the perfect ending for this trilogy. Every movie is fantastic though, so you're only going to prefer one over the other in slight ways. Two Towers is my least favorite, but I still think it's a masterpiece. My only problem is literally the walking trees because I don't really like the CGI for them, whereas Gollum was an incredible CGI character. |
ShadowRemains
08.04.20 | sam's speech at the end of the two towers is legendary |
Zig
08.04.20 | books are better |
Egarran
08.04.20 | there you are |
Emim
08.04.20 | The manga is better |
Trebor.
08.04.20 | Books are so boring. Dude'll spend 9 paragraphs describing the grass when a battle is going on. And Fellowship never starts, it's like oh great they're finally leaving the shire, oh no, Tom Bombadill, no, no!!!! |
Egarran
08.04.20 | The movies only hint at it, but the hobbits were definitely gay stoners in the books. |
hel9000
08.04.20 | ^^tolkien's landscape descriptions are brutal. they're an automatic skip when i go back and read his stuff. |
bloc
08.05.20 | Anyone dig the Hobbit trilogy? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.05.20 | Ah yes, the MCU of high fantasy. |
nol
08.05.20 | Reading the books rn. A much different experience.
Probably Two Towers, but if you don’t watch all three extended versions in a row every time you watch, ur a scrub |
budgie
08.05.20 | agreerd with egarran |
nol
08.05.20 | Bout to meet the ents in the book. My body is ready, but is my heart? |
Sinternet
08.05.20 | 123 |
outliers
08.05.20 | "what are we holding on to Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it’s worth fighting for!!"
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nol
08.05.20 | “it's like oh great they're finally leaving the shire, oh no, Tom Bombadill, no, no!!!!“
Are you really talking shit on Tom Bombadill |
budgie
08.05.20 | tom bombadill is the only lame part about the first book |
nol
08.05.20 | Well Peter Jackson probably agrees with you, but I don’t |
nol
08.05.20 | tom’s just this chill hippie dude with incredible powers over nature and even Sauron, and the baddest bitch at his side, and he’s just like ahh whatever it’s not that big of a deal. A real inspiration. |
Egarran
08.05.20 | The movies didn't want to deal with his blatant bestiality |
neekafat
08.05.20 | Fellowship is obvs weakest imo |
Egarran
08.05.20 | obvs after everyone has it at #1 |
zakalwe
08.05.20 | Don’t be slagging off Tom Bombadill!! Close the list down! |
theBoneyKing
08.05.20 | @Treb: The books are untouchable, sorry sweaty. |
neekafat
08.05.20 | @Eg not sure you know what imo means? |
Egarran
08.05.20 | @neek not sure u know what obvs means? |
neekafat
08.05.20 | it is obvs to me that it is better than the others... imo |
Egarran
08.05.20 | *french kisses neeka to make him quiet* |
Morningrise767
08.06.20 | you could order these in any way and I wouldn't be mad. they're all fucking classic movies. |
TheSonomaDude
08.06.20 | ROTK is the most boring of the OG trilogy agreed |
outliers
08.06.20 | ya that battle of helm's deep is such a snoozefest |
nol
08.06.20 | I’d like to think you are being sarcastic
Okay yes you are. |
Thranth
08.06.20 | return of the king is and will always be the best |
Divaman
08.07.20 | All three films are gems. It's like when they used to argue about who was the "ugliest" of Charlie's Angels. |
MiloRuggles
08.07.20 | Any lotr list that doesn't have fellowship at the top is objectively incorrect |
TheSonomaDude
08.07.20 | "ya that battle of helm's deep is such a snoozefest"
helm's deep is Two Towers not ROTK you dunce, but I'm glad you agree |
bloc
08.08.20 | Let's see your battle then smart guy |
ArsMoriendi
08.08.20 | Unlike, let's say Star Wars, I find it difficult to even rank the LotR movies because they feel like a truly cohesive story... at least if you watch the director's super long cut |
evilford
08.08.20 | My friends....
You bow to no one. |
TheSonomaDude
08.08.20 | "Let's see your battle then smart guy"
should I use my legos or my GI Joes? |
bloc
08.08.20 | Beast Wars |
TheSonomaDude
08.08.20 | fuck yeah brb |
Thranth
08.10.20 | Did any of you guys ever read the books? I feel like I need too whenever I think about the movies. |
GuanoBumbershoot
08.10.20 | Fellowship is my favourite for sure. Coin flip the other two. Perfect trilogy. |
BigPleb
08.10.20 | Fellowship is def number 1, unreal atmosphere on that one. |
Emim
08.11.20 | Battle of Helms Deep is great wtf |
nol
08.11.20 | I’m 99% sure any comment ripping on Helm’s Deep was being sarcastic |
TheSonomaDude
08.11.20 | you be the judge! |
rockandmetaljunkie
08.11.20 | I thought you were gonna start a discussion about the books... :/
fuck the films (though all three of em are a 10/10 in their own right) |
rockandmetaljunkie
08.11.20 | and whoever says the films are long, I can only say that just can't watch the theatrical versions anymore, i always go for the extended versions |
TheSonomaDude
08.11.20 | I don't think the length is an issue with the first two films, but it becomes noticeably grating in ROTK imo |
rockandmetaljunkie
08.11.20 | understandable
I was 14 when i saw it in theaters. I was already a "veteran" in cinema experience, yet TRotK gave me an experience like no other film before. I left the theater with tears in my eyes and for three hours i had goosebumps all the time. I was thinking of that experience for days. Needless to say that three hours flew out of the window and it seem to me like 5 minutes. |
Egarran
08.11.20 | Sweet. That is an amazing feeling we experience way too rarely. |
Faraudo
08.11.20 | RotK is my most memorable movie theater experience ever, so I think it edges the other 2 for just a bit. They are all perfect tho. |
Rowhaus
08.11.20 | who's read the silmarillion? |
MiloRuggles
08.11.20 | The silmarillion is lit the fuck up. Probably my favorite Tolkien |
Egarran
08.11.20 | I've tried and failed two times. Will try again later. |
madrigal30
08.11.20 | silmarillion very good
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rockandmetaljunkie
08.11.20 | I have, it's like reading the bible. In a way, it is the bible of middle earth. It's weary but ultimately a rewarding read. There's so many names, locations, events that you HAVE to remember. But it IS the definition of EPIC storytelling. If you thought LOTR was epic, then prepare yourself; you ain't got the faintest idea about the true meaning of epic. The scope of silmarillion really has no rival. |
Shuyin
08.11.20 | TTT is my favourite too, I remember watching it for the first time during Christmas with my folks. My dad thought it was going to be a kids movie hahahaha he loved it so much, that movie holds a special place |
Rowhaus
08.11.20 | "In a way, it is the bible of middle earth." Damn that's a great analogy actually. And seeing a LOTR movie on Christmas sounds like a madhouse. |
ShadowRemains
08.11.20 | the fall of gondolin, the tale of beren and luthien, the children of hurin, and the tale of earendel could all be made into fantastic films if they were done right, you can’t make the whole silmarillion into films because its far too dense, but the great stories from it could be |
rockandmetaljunkie
08.11.20 | @shadows
There's so much poetry, lyricism and fragile divinity in those texts, man. The way tolkien writes it...
I don't know. I don't think those stories can be faithfully adapted into films. Have you ever read Homer's Iliad & Odyssey? Have you read the epic of gilgamesh?
It's just so damn hard ro convey such lyricism into a set of swinging pictures, imo. Have you ever seen a faithful and accurate adaptation of illiad and odyssey?
An adaptation that somehow conveys all that you feel when you read these books?
No, of course not...
And, to an extent, it's reasonable.
If you think Tolkien has written these stories the same way he wrote tlotr, you are gravely mistaken. His writing is on a whole other level. I'm not kidding, i learned many archaic english words by reading that book. |
Shuyin
08.12.20 | "And seeing a LOTR movie on Christmas sounds like a madhouse."
It was great! They aired the entire trilogy too, one per week. I really need to check some of the books |
Colton
08.12.20 | Never been able to get through one of these without falling asleep, shit is like xanax to me |
Casavir
08.12.20 | TTT has one of the most epic openings of all time. |
rockandmetaljunkie
08.12.20 | "I really need to check some of the books"
the books are beyond awesome but you need to have the patience to read them |
Shuyin
08.12.20 | Oh I have the patience of a saint. I'm actually reading GoT now, about halfway through but I did stop on volume 3 to read something different: Roal Dahls War, which I'm enjoying immensely |
Dewinged
08.12.20 | I like them the way they were released. Fellowship of the Ring is just magical. |
Colton
08.12.20 | When I was a kid I read this series called Malazan Book of the Fallen (or something like that), that shit requires a crazy amount of patience. I don't think I even understood what was happening most of the time |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.12.20 | accidently fed my copy of fellowship of the ring to my hamsters when i was a kid and spared myself a whole lot of fucking misery
thanks hamsters! |
Egarran
08.12.20 | >Roal Dahls War
Great stuff indeed.
Well I've never read any Dahl that wasn't. |
Egarran
08.12.20 | Oh boy! https://youtu.be/1mGobLlWVaY |
ShadowRemains
08.12.20 | "If you think Tolkien has written these stories the same way he wrote tlotr, you are gravely mistaken. His writing is on a whole other level. I'm not kidding, i learned many archaic english words by reading that book."
re: making films, that's what tolkien experts/translators and scriptwriters are there for |
Slex
08.12.20 | 3>2>1
Return of the King is like in my top 10 favorite movies ever |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.12.20 | Smdfh |
JokineAugustus
08.13.20 | Return of the King is like in my top 10 favorite movies ever[2] |
JokineAugustus
08.13.20 | Also best soundtrack in a movie ever. Rohirrim charge music gives me goosebumps every time. |
hal1ax
08.13.20 | this is the correct ranking |
budgie
08.13.20 | "Also best soundtrack in a movie ever. Rohirrim charge music gives me goosebumps every time."
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i do like the ring's theme quite a bit though |
Sharkattack
08.13.20 | Fellowship
Return
Two towers |
rockandmetaljunkie
08.13.20 | "making films, that's what tolkien experts/translators and scriptwriters are there for"
I don't it's possible to use these texts and translate them into a motion picture. First of all, these texts are drafts, not reworked, polished & perfrected as the corresponding ones in tlotr. They contain numerous info, but very little dialogue and character developement something that is essential in filmaking. A lot of artistic license would have to take place which would piss the hardcore and loyal fans.
The second major obstacle is that of the running time. It would be impossible even for a 12 hour trilogy to tell the tale of silmarillion in full. A tv series (like got) could work better, but it would have to be pretty expensive.
You could take some of its individual stories like beren & luthien, or the fall of gondolin to the big screen, but the problem is that there are many intertwining charactets that pop out of nowhere. The reader knows who they are because their origins have been explained in previous chapters, but the viewers (assuming they're not all too familiar with tolkien's legendarium), would have no idea who these characters are. So a lot of backstory should be added which only augments the problem of the narration.
But above all these, my main concern lies with the adaptation. The book reads literary like the bible. Or like an archaic, epic poem. How do you take something like that and make it work into a 21st century film? How do you sell something like that?
Cause at the end of the day, it's all about making money.
One last thing:
How are you so sure that hollywood has the required screenwriting talent? Being a Tolkien fan, is one thing. Being able to translate a poem to the big screen is another.
Personally, i doubt hollywood has the appropriate screenwriters to make this work.
The talent just isn't there... |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
08.13.20 | There are no good screen writers |
rockandmetaljunkie
08.13.20 | Unfortunately... |
ShadowRemains
08.13.20 | "You could take some of its individual stories like beren & luthien, or the fall of gondolin to the big screen"
that's literally what i said lol |
rockandmetaljunkie
08.13.20 | Or there might be some guys with potential but we all know that the industry is interested only in moneymaking. And since that is their main goal, there is little room for bold moves and improvisations... |
rockandmetaljunkie
08.13.20 | Yes you did and i further explained why even that has its own difficutlies... |
ShadowRemains
08.13.20 | i mean the beren/luthien arc seems half reasonable to me, since it's mainly focused on the two protagonists against morgoth and sauron (oh and thingol, fuck that guy is an ass), aside from how it's written, although children of hurin might be a better adaptation in terms of writing style than beren/luthien
as for a few of the intertwining characters in beren/luthien, i think it would sort of speak for itself that finrod is a powerful hero of the noldor and that feanor's sons are dark/evil (and if you want to learn more about the doom of mandos and the silmarils, you go back and read)
no doubt it would be a monumental undertaking should it ever be done, then again there were the same concerns prior to the LOTR trilogy hitting the big screen (although you're right that if people think LOTR is something else, they don't know what they're getting into with the silmarillion)
speaking of that, i need to get the recompiled versions that chris tolkien recently published of the four core stories of the first age, i'm guessing they might be a bit easier to work with |
budgie
08.13.20 | the conan the barbarian universe is so much better than lotr anyway |
Egarran
08.13.20 | Fuckin A bud
The first Arnold movie was even pretty good, but I dare not watch the rest. |
Shuyin
08.13.20 | I love how weird the first Conan movie is, remember the scene where the snake guy turns into an actual snake? And it all happened naturally, as if things like that are just normal in that world, great stuff |
budgie
08.13.20 | egarran my man |
Emim
08.13.20 | budgie you really giving an "ehhhhhh" to the soundtrack? For shame, man. |
Egarran
08.13.20 | Ther's still about 5 Conan stories I haven't read.
That way I'll always have something to look forward to *taps nose* |
rockandmetaljunkie
08.15.20 | "Sweet. That is an amazing feeling we experience way too rarely"
Correction: It is one of those feelings you experience only when you're young. That magic seems to quickly fade away afterwards when you grow up... |
Egarran
08.15.20 | Woah, speak for yourself please |
rockandmetaljunkie
08.15.20 | You're way too young then. Just wait and you'll see.... |
Egarran
08.16.20 | Nah you just want the comfort of your misery being a general condition. |
budgie
08.16.20 | i get what he's saying, that magical wonder wasn't around beyond my youth and in adulthood i can get but glimpses sometimes with the help of drugs or horror movies |
Egarran
08.16.20 | You get that I'm way too young? lol |
budgie
08.16.20 | no about the magic going away as you grow up |
Egarran
08.16.20 | Ok I'll just quote so we're up to speed.
I said "Sweet. That is an amazing feeling we experience way too rarely"
Junkie said "Correction: It is one of those feelings you experience only when you're young."
And that's some boomer shit my dude |
rockandmetaljunkie
08.16.20 | "And that's some boomer shit my dude"
it is and if you're indeed older (35+) and still feel that way then you're a lucky guy |
Egarran
08.16.20 | Thank you |
Thranth
09.10.20 | This was bumped to you as a reminder that LotR is the greatest film series ever created, and that tRotK is the greatest film of all time.
Have a good day |
JeremiahBullfrog
09.11.20 | Thranth - you're 50% right my man, I just feel Two Towers is better. |
Faraudo
09.11.20 | "tRotK is the greatest film of all time"
Correct. |
