neekafat
05.11.20 | who the fuck is daniel he sounds lame lmao |
JohnnyoftheWell
05.11.20 | lol neek shuddup and do your next album |
Gnocchi
05.11.20 | He's about Neek level of awesomeness but. |
JohnnyoftheWell
05.11.20 | also woah what, Faustian Echoes as the first Agalloch for a folkboi?!? |
parksungjoon
05.11.20 | > folk of all kind is my go to
bergtatt
empyrium - songs of misty moors and fields
saor - roots
agalloch - fail pork lore
prob some alcest
drudkh and moonsorrow if hes okay with listening to cryptofascists |
parksungjoon
05.11.20 | honestly stuff like wittr, weakling, deafheaven could work
mb summoning
mb solstafir? |
JohnnyoftheWell
05.11.20 | yeah bergtatt is a !! |
parksungjoon
05.11.20 | opeth's first three mb
altar of plagues' early stuff?
dissection might still work cuz of the melodies and stuff
some old melodeath that doesnt blow? 90s in flames, 90s dark tranq |
Gnocchi
05.11.20 | --Faustian Echoes as the first Agalloch for a folkboi?!?--
Bold isn't it. Also @Parks, I didn't want to lean too heavily into folky BM, especially while trying to encourage other genres as well. I'll also see how he bites with this before we move onto #2 etc. |
parksungjoon
05.11.20 | fair enough
i think melodeath is prob one of the easier ways to get started then |
FR33L0RD
05.11.20 | Novembers Doom -- The Novella Reservoir |
dedex
05.11.20 | Gojira might be a good "gateway" band. Overall some nice stuff for Daniel!
Also Cult of Luna have proven to work quite well with my noob friends |
parksungjoon
05.11.20 | tiamat
october tide
katatonia
type o negative
orphaned land |
JohnnyoftheWell
05.11.20 | Isis are the ultimate metal gateway for nonmetal atmosphere junkies (excluding melodeath, which is also a solid option), but CoL make sense as a run-on |
Gnocchi
05.11.20 | 8 is flat out cheating though. Thought I'd clarify that before someone accuses me of cheating. I own that shit. |
ReturnToRock
05.11.20 | I'd throw in some Finntroll, Claim the Throne, Norther (since he likes folk) or maybe some Katatonia, Paradise Lost, Tiamat, mid-period Moonspell for the atmosphere. Or try some of the more accessible goth bands, like To/Die/For or Beseech or heck, even HIM might be good for a complete noob. |
Gnocchi
05.11.20 | To be fair, I think the term noob wouldn't really apply here. |
nightbringer
05.11.20 | Lantlos - Melting Sun
I would try to entirely avoid harsh vox at the start. Or at least rec things that have minimal use of them. Don't underestimate how much of a total deal-breaker harsh vox are for so many people at the start of their journey in heavier music. Don't forget how much of an *acquired* taste it is for most people. |
ReturnToRock
05.11.20 | ^ This.
I can't tell you how many people equate metal (ALL metal) to 'that screaming shit'. Even styles metal fans consider borderline pop (i.e. screamo) are 'too shouty' for these people.
tl;dr do not underestimate how many people think early Paramore is heavy. |
manosg
05.11.20 | The term folk metal isn't used the same way as it did when the band who started it all released its best albums, but Skyclad should always be part of such lists man. |
InFlamesWeThrash666
05.11.20 | Ensiferum - s/t is a must when it comes to folk metal
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Gnocchi
05.11.20 | --I would try to entirely avoid harsh vox at the start.--
Normally I'd agree, but the point here is to throw abandon to the wind and allow each of the genre's (extreme or not) into the fray.
--a must when it comes to folk metal--
To be clear, folk-metal isn't the point of this list. We're not looking for a niche specifically - it was simply a random factoid dropped in a summary. |
dmathias52
05.11.20 | Tbf I'd say that "noob" is pretty applicable since I could count the number of metal albums I've listened to on one hand
But thank you for this! Found my work from home soundtrack for the week, gonna dive in right away |
Calc
05.11.20 | no fintroll? |
dmathias52
05.11.20 | Gonna chime in with my thoughts after every two albums. These are each after one listen, I'll update opinions the more I listen. Just a warning, I have none of the correct language to discuss any of this, so bare with me
Woodensthrone - I would definitely say this is a good starter palette option. I really enjoyed the contrast between the heavier sections and more melodic folk-stylings throughout. I actually don't mind harsh vocals, but they're more of a put-off for me when they're more constant. I'm a big lyrics guy and would say that's one of the big offputs for me with metal. I know the lyrics are normally pretty great, but also don't necessarily want to sit with lyrics pulled up while listening. I feel like this did a really nice job of incorporating the vocals as another instrument. The harsh vocals were paired really well with softer portions and I was surprised how well it worked even when the synth was in the mix. I'll be honest and say I don't get the more "pounding sections" where it's fast riffs and heavy footwork on the drums, but since they often weren't paired with vocals, it was a little easier to digest. I will say the whole thing sounds so dramatic - I couldn't quite tell how serious I was supposed to take it, if that makes any sense. Overall though, for sure an enjoyable listen and super far out of the realm of anything I've willingly listened to before.
We Lost the Sea - Holy shit. I loved this. Is this metal? Like obviously there were some heavy sections to it and harsh vocals, but it also created some of the most beautiful atmospheres I've ever heard this side of post-rock. I'm a big fan of mixing those beautiful atmosphere with the heavier vocals. The execution is very different, but that style sort of reminds me of the State Faults from last year, which I did love. There was so much variety in this, but it was somehow cohesive. Super expansive without sounding empty, but the parts that were clearly metal still fit in and added to the experience. Will be returning to this without a doubt. |
dmathias52
05.11.20 | I wrote a lot more than I thought, but I guess that's what happens when I don't have adjectives lol |
BAT
05.11.20 | my name is daniel, i greww up with my brothers playing numetal buut heres some starter basic recs
megadeth - rust in peace
death - human
rage against the machine - selftitled
the dillinger escape plan - calculating infinity / option paralysis
suffocation - effigy of the forgotten
meshuggah - obzen
poison the well - the opposite of december
the red chord - fused together
sleep - holy mountain
opeth - ghost reveries
pantera - vulgar display of power
mr bungle - self titled
insect warfare - world extermination
and waking the cadaver
|
nightbringer
05.11.20 | I'm confused, daniel = dmathias52? |
ReturnToRock
05.11.20 | @Bat IDK that you want to be recommending Dillinger or Suffocation or Waking the Cadaver to somebody uninitiated. |
dmathias52
05.11.20 | Yup I’m Daniel. It’s what the d in my username is for |
Gnocchi
05.11.20 | Added the entries to the list. Accidently hit the wrong delete button which probably explains the new ordering. |
botulist
05.11.20 | I’d recommend Mos Def - Black on both sides
Daniel, you already love folk. Don’t get into metal. Seek a genre with less beards and bad footwear and incest implications. Be better, Daniel |
Gnocchi
05.12.20 | reported. |
botulist
05.12.20 | deported. |
Gnocchi
05.12.20 | Imported |
Thibs
05.12.20 | aborted |
JohnnyoftheWell
06.27.20 | what happened to this lol did botulist win the day |
Gnocchi
06.27.20 | I Think so. Or Dan got what he needed. Either way it was 5 minutes well spent. |
dmathias52
04.08.21 | Oh man I forgot about this and feel bad lol. Will return! |
