Storm In A Teacup: Episode 9 The Rise of Skywalker

Storm In A Teacup 04.12.19	That was awesome y'all feel me?
Papa Universe 04.12.19	so which one's the legend for this generation again?
Storm In A Teacup 04.12.19	Rey!
Kalopsia 04.12.19	i honestly thought that was Hammill doing his Joker laugh at the end, but yep that's Palpy
Papa Universe 04.12.19	and she's a legend because...
Papa Universe 04.12.19	or it's Luke's spirit gone insane and turning evil.
Rowan5215 04.12.19	Palpatine didn't die and there's somehow ruins left of the Death Star, yup this is a JJ Abrams film alright
Rowan5215 04.12.19	no need to challenge your audience when fan service will bring in the dollars
Papa Universe 04.12.19	unless Spock jumped through another wormhole and his understanding of science is stronger than any force, so he essentially becomes the supreme ruler of all that is
robotmagician 04.12.19	really disappointed when I saw the death star 2 and kylo remaking the helmet. viii was such a breath of fresh air because it broke away from the retreads and did something special. now weâ€™re probably getting darth vader v2 again with a redemption arc and everything. still looking forward to the movie and iâ€™m sure itâ€™ll be really fun regardless (and I know my viii opinion is a bit unpopular)
Rowan5215 04.12.19	nah u right. Last Jedi is a top 3 Star Wars film
Kalopsia 04.12.19	TLJ was shite
AlexKzillion 04.12.19	Big doo doo yeah
TheSpirit 04.12.19	TLJ was fine can't wait for this and to see rey just FUCK SHIT UP
garas 04.12.19	The trailer seemed good, but this going to be garbage like 7 or 8. The only good newer movie was Rogue One...
Papa Universe 04.12.19	"Last Jedi is a top 3 Star Wars film" "TLJ was shite" like anyone expected this discourse to go any other way
Papa Universe 04.12.19	I still like that fan theory that said that Rey and Kylo are going to switch places, because Kylo found force in loving and peacful environment, he'll turn good, but Rey found it in stressful and dangerous one, so she'll turn evil.
Rowan5215 04.12.19	well yeah. this is the part where I rebut with how TFA was one of the most lifeless blatant remake cashgrabs I've seen in my life, someone hits back with TLJ being a mess, and we go on ad nauseum
AlexKzillion 04.12.19	Ready to see Palpatine fuck some shit up because fan service Also ready to see Palpatine die at the hands of either Rey or Kylo because of course that is whatâ€™s gonna happen
Papa Universe 04.12.19	can we just pretend we did all that and move on to other topics?
anarchistfish 04.12.19	stopped caring after the mess that was 8
Papa Universe 04.12.19	From here on out and forever Shall we abstain from discussing that furore So I wave my magic wand And say that Last Jedi BEGONE! whoosh oh look, we can talk about other things now
AlexKzillion 04.12.19	Also are we sure â€œThe Rise of Skywalkerâ€ isnâ€™t referring to the return of Hayden Christensen as Anakin somehow? Palpatineâ€™s in this movie so why the fuck not.
Papa Universe 04.12.19	they wouldn't do that, they have budget for better actors
anarchistfish 04.12.19	not really dude it just revealed how pointless and arbitrary this trilogy is
Storm In A Teacup 04.12.19	lol
AlexKzillion 04.12.19	Of course they do but the new movies canâ€™t be carried by the new characters and they need old characters to pull some weight except all the old characters are being killed off or literally dying irl so they need him. Next man up.
Kalopsia 04.12.19	i think the skywalker the title refers to is Kylo, not Luke but knowing jj, i'm prepared for lazy fan service
AlexKzillion 04.12.19	Anyone finna bet that Rey was also created by Palpatine and his midichlorian magic and was conceived by a virgin just like Anakin and that Palpatine is gonna try to make her his apprentice? Knowing this is a JJ movie and that he gives no fucks about revamping plots from past movies... I guarantee this is gonna be the plot.
Kalopsia 04.12.19	^that would fit with the 'reys parents are no one' plot
anarchistfish 04.12.19	trilogy is a mess/ shouldve just given 8 to jj. why did dinosaur park guy quit the director role anyway?
Deathconscious 04.12.19	Remains of the death star? Is that what that last shot was?
AlexKzillion 04.12.19	And Kylo is gonna be there because reasons and Palpatine is gonna say something along the lines of â€œyou are exactly who Vader wasâ€ to Rey and Kylo is gonna have a revelation that Vader (his idol) was actually once a good person who got manipulated by Palpatine and Kylo is gonna turn good all the sudden and then heâ€™s gonna do Palpatine just like he did snoke. Ooo I bet Kylo is jealous that Palpatine wants Rey as his apprentice and not him and then Palpatine makes them fight and Rey defeats Kylo before any of that happens This is too easy
anarchistfish 04.12.19	"Remains of the death star? Is that what that last shot was?" yes
anarchistfish 04.12.19	i thought rey was gonna go dark side in 8. when she first goes to frog island planet i thought oh yh we gonna see some shit but then the movie just dithers and doodles dicks all over the place
Deathconscious 04.12.19	"they wouldn't do that, they have budget for better actors" So did the prequels.
Deathconscious 04.12.19	I dont want Palpatine to come back physically, i hope they go into the remains of the death star and he's haunting the shit out of the place.
Papa Universe 04.12.19	Colin Trevorrow lost the gig, because Disney continuously didn't like his drafts. Apparently the final nail in his coffin was his movie Book of Henry, which was both a financial failure and was hated by critics and audience alike.
Papa Universe 04.12.19	"So did the prequels." they didn't know better
Kalopsia 04.12.19	and they have to end 9 just like they did 6, so there's gonna be an obligatory force ghost line up of Luke, Yoda, and maybe ObiWan (surprise Ewan cameo) all looking on while our heros dance with murderous teddy bears
Papa Universe 04.12.19	I am eagerly awaiting Christmas special featuring Rey, Poe and Finn on their way to that porg island.
Deathconscious 04.12.19	What was with Kylo pushing someone to the ground with his lightsaber, how the fuck does that work.
Papa Universe 04.12.19	you press against a person and they fall to the ground, i imagine
AlexKzillion 04.12.19	Yeah Iâ€™m all in on this â€œIX will be a weird cross between ROTJ and ROTSâ€ train... just makes way too much sense Also Billy Dee Williams is coming back as Lando because of course he is
Valkoor952 04.12.19	What a shitty ass trailer lol. That first scene with Rey running and making those yoda-tier jumps was so fucking pointless and flashy and useless. Palpatine is coming back. Fuck off Disney It's nice seeing Lando for the split second until you realize he will be apart of another disaster of epic proportions for the star wars canon. I fucking hate these money crazed cash-grabbing, fan servicing corporate ass suits.
AlexKzillion 04.12.19	How do we feel about CGI Leia?
neekafat 04.12.19	was literally at the Star Wars Celebration watching it live Working there now Alex they didn't CG her they used unused scenes from TFA
Kalopsia 04.12.19	it's pretty bad luck that of the original trio (luke, leia, han) they kept the one character alive who died irl
Valkoor952 04.12.19	"Alex they didn't CG her they used unused scenes from TFA" lol, that's gonna work out well
Papa Universe 04.12.19	Lando tho. still alive and kicking, so they better give him all the showstoppers
Valkoor952 04.12.19	"it's pretty bad luck that of the original trio (luke, leia, han) they kept the one character alive who died irl" It's called being unable to come up with a coherent and well-thought out plot.
Kalopsia 04.12.19	if lando doesn't fuck c3po then he wont complete the arc he started in Solo.
Valkoor952 04.12.19	"Lando tho. still alive and kicking, so they better give him all the showstoppers" Yeah, Lando waited until Han died and the universe was going to shit to make an appearance, brilliant storytelling.
AlexKzillion 04.12.19	â€œlol, that's gonna work out wellâ€ I mean as long as the scenes â€œfitâ€ whatâ€™s going on I think thatâ€™s definitely the right decision I was not a fan at all of CGI Tarkin in Rogue One personally
Valkoor952 04.12.19	"I was not a fan at all of Rogue One personally" fixed that for ya
Papa Universe 04.12.19	"Lando waited until Han died" so he could take back the Falcon
Valkoor952 04.12.19	sounds reasonable
anarchistfish 04.12.19	CGI tarkin was kinda weird but CGI leia made me fucking cringe in that movie
neekafat 04.12.19	loved the trailer personally, was hype as fuck to be there when they premeired it tho so I'm probably biased
Deathconscious 04.12.19	"you press against a person and they fall to the ground, i imagine" Do you know how lightsabers work?
Deathconscious 04.12.19	Btw i just remembered that they had Luke call the lightsaber a "laser sword" or something in The Last Jedi. Why.
Source 04.12.19	Maybe I'll see this someday
neekafat 04.12.19	thank you adolf very cool
Deathconscious 04.12.19	Thats not an answer, but thank you, very cool!
Kalopsia 04.12.19	"Btw i just remembered that they had Luke call the lightsaber a "laser sword" or something in The Last Jedi. Why." lucas used that phrase more than a few times while describing a lightsaber. i think in the context of the movie, it was Luke calling it a derogatory term more or less to downplay it's value
Casavir 04.12.19	If they bring Palpatine back after what happened with Snoke in the last film, it'll basically be Maul and Savage Oppress from TCW but even worse. Dark Empire did it too but the tone of that story actually fits such an occurrence and there was a lot of broader lore involved in that story directly that made it engaging and worthwhile so that's not something they can duplicate. Either way, a pretty mediocre trailer and a crap title.
Trebor. 04.12.19	THE TRAILER BROKE NEW GROUND
AlexKzillion 04.12.19	â€œit'll basically be Maul and Savage Oppress from TCW but even worse.â€ Nah. First off I definitely thought Maul and Opress were fun and didnâ€™t think they were bad at all (other than Maul repeatedly surviving on-screen deaths) And secondly I feel like theyâ€™ll spin it in a way that makes snoke palpatineâ€™s puppet as opposed to his equal/colleague
neekafat 04.12.19	[2]
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.12.19	i like looking at daisy ridleys face
Valkoor952 04.13.19	she's obnoxious and overacts in every intense scene
Deathconscious 04.13.19	@kalopsia ahh, that makes sense. thanks for clarifying instead of being a passive aggressive little bitch.
Deathconscious 04.13.19	@valkoor sounds like it fits with the rest of the Star Wars movies. Over the top acting should be expected by now.
Wildcardbitchesss 04.13.19	It wouldnâ€™t be a Star Wars thread if everyone wasnâ€™t arguing and complaining about a movie that doesnâ€™t even come out for another 8 months
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	valk how many snakes crawled up your ass when you caught wind of this trailer
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	on a scale from one to forty
StrikeOfTheBeast 04.13.19	The Last Jedi ruled, and I'm definitely looking forward to how this shakes things up.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	probably by pretending the last jedi never happened
StrikeOfTheBeast 04.13.19	lmao I do get the hate for that movie so I'm not one of those TLJ fans who thinks you're wrong for feeling that way. Too bad it's a one-sided argument though.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	i dont personally have strong feelings regarding it, or any star-wars films for that matter, tbh
StrikeOfTheBeast 04.13.19	Glad to see another human being on this earth that doesn't absolutely hate it. lol
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	i do however, have plenty hot takes such as: palpatine is a lame villain
AlexKzillion 04.13.19	Nah monster mash is the best
StrikeOfTheBeast 04.13.19	I'll agree that he's underused, but man Ian McDiarmid was born for that role.
Source 04.13.19	Good. Gooooooood
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	i mean a legacy of crazy evil alien siths and we get a mean geriatric human grandpa disguised as a boring politician
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	every other sith ever>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bad grampa
Valkoor952 04.13.19	"valk how many snakes crawled up your ass when you caught wind of this trailer on a scale from one to forty" my ass is fine thanks for asking. i did get explosive diarrhea around the time the trailer surfaced, you figure if there is a correlation
Source 04.13.19	I'm still confused as to how they made one of the coolest looking villains ever with darth maul, but then completely wasted him in the movie
Valkoor952 04.13.19	they didn't realize he would be such a huge deal
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	"my ass is fine thanks for asking. i did get explosive diarrhea around the time the trailer surfaced, you figure if there is a correlation" maybe the snake in yr ass just saw a ghost
Friday13th 04.13.19	LANDO XD
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	i love how competent darth maul is, right up until the point where he casually watches obi wan do a one-handed cliff-hang pull-up into triple axel front flip horizontal 180 degree laser slash.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	RIP reasonable reaction time
Source 04.13.19	It's over obi wan, I have the high ground
StrikeOfTheBeast 04.13.19	YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	"It's over obi wan, I have the high ground" lol
StrikeOfTheBeast 04.13.19	I don't like sand
Friday13th 04.13.19	Only a sith deals in absolutes...you know you like sand a little bit, Anakin.
StrikeOfTheBeast 04.13.19	He obvi don't go to the beach if he don't like sand plus he's got enough of a tan anyway
CygnusX1 04.13.19	Cant wait for the dumpster fire that will be this movie, and how much they undo from the last movie. Thank god disney is taking a break from releasing half-assed star wars films nobody asked for. Maybe in a couple years they'll have a script that makes sense and tells a good story.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	"He obvi don't go to the beach if he don't like sand plus he's got enough of a tan anyway" that must be why he didnt dock for the final battle in Rogue One
StrikeOfTheBeast 04.13.19	lmao good call
anarchistfish 04.13.19	What we are left with is a JJ Abrams trilogy where Rian Johnson came in halfway through and took a big dump on everything.
anarchistfish 04.13.19	There is no way JJ makes this make any resulting sense
samwise2000 04.13.19	Literally couldn't care less about this movie, which sucks cause when the last two were announced i was hyped but both of em were huge disappointments. At this point, I see more redeeming qualities in the prequels
neekafat 04.13.19	hot takes here
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	im just shocked disney allowed rian to even do his thing to begin with. i can just picture him watching episode 7, gathering up all the plot points and then going in to pitch episode 8 like... sweeping gestures "REY? NOBODY. SNOKE? DEAD. LUKE? BITTER HERMIT. ALSO DEAD." jazz hands
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	I will say the image from the teaser of Rens' helmet being reassembled is kind of a hilarious metaphor for jj abrams trying to put his plot back together for episode 9 after rian had his way with it
anarchistfish 04.13.19	Yeah there's no other way to read it rly lol. Even shoehorned the name Skywalker back into the title
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	Stoked that the Joker is the main villain now tho
deathschool 04.13.19	Looks promising! Not gonna get my hopes too high yet though.
Rowan5215 04.13.19	"What we are left with is a JJ Abrams trilogy where Rian Johnson came in halfway through and took a big dump on everything." Rian shoulda had the whole trilogy agreed, JJ should not have been let near this shit with his characterless heartless mystery box bullshit
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	Rian couldnt have done deconstructionism 101 to the entire franchise without someone there to construct all the tired ass tropes for him to begin with tho
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	Also not tryna defend Abrams here but rowan let's not forget re: "heartless characterless" rian made rose a central character lel
Rowan5215 04.13.19	yeah but Rose is fine. like she's kinda boring but people's problems with her blew way out of proportion when there's 100 worse characters in the Star Wars movies tbh I also think Rian's vision was probably something like the trilogy we have, in that he would have set up a bunch of tropes and cliches in the first movie and tore them down in the second. just that, being not JJ, he would have done it in a better way than having a third Death Star, replicating A New Hope beat for beat, relying entirely on mystery boxes rather than any actual substance etc
Kurai 04.13.19	Didnâ€™t Rian also do a script for Episode 9 at one stage? I presume that was thrown out. But yeah, Iâ€™m excited for this. I enjoyed The Last Jedi, and Iâ€™m interested to see how theyâ€™re going to wrap this up. Apparently, JJ got George Lucas involved to help out.
Morningrise767 04.13.19	I've already forgotten what happened in Ep. 7 and 8. This new trilogy has been quite underwhelming tbh.
anarchistfish 04.13.19	At least 7 had structure and a somewhat coherent plot
Deathconscious 04.13.19	Episode 8 was definitely better than 7. JJ is just gonna end this with another death star battle.
anarchistfish 04.13.19	8 was hot garbage
anarchistfish 04.13.19	Death star 3 was the only seriously dumb thing in 7
Storm In A Teacup 04.13.19	^ eh, fish, not really, Starkiller Base was closer to something more devastating like the Galaxy Gun or Sun Crusher, the Death Star was significantly weaker in terms of power and possibly defense. It's another of the hundred super weapons in Star Wars, sure, but it's not a Death Star, and it's also kind of unique in the Star Wars universe in terms of creativity. "I dont want Palpatine to come back physically, i hope they go into the remains of the death star and he's haunting the shit out of the place." That's what I figure. It will be hilariously awesome I believe.
Storm In A Teacup 04.13.19	The book Vision of the Future was written by Timothy Zahn and handles the fallout of the Thrawn Trilogy. In it we see Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade talk a lot about super weapons. The Sun Crusher story is one of my favorites and was one of Luke Skywalker's greatest tests.
anarchistfish 04.13.19	"eh, fish, not really, Starkiller Base was closer to something more devastating like the Galaxy Gun or Sun Crusher, the Death Star was significantly weaker in terms of power and possibly defense. It's another of the hundred super weapons in Star Wars, sure, but it's not a Death Star, and it's also kind of unique in the Star Wars universe in terms of creativity." come on bro dont give me this. it's a fucking floating space laser that they spend the last 3rd of the movie destroying and han solo even makes a quip about yet "another one". it was the one point in the movie where i was like "ok the homage has gone a bit too far" couldve found any other plot device that wasn't just another fucking super weapon
Storm In A Teacup 04.13.19	also the third death star is the one in Return of the Jedi lol. There was a Death Star hanging out in the Maw for many years. it was the original prototype and had the fully functioning super laser. it was mostly an empty shell on the inside and didn't have a hyperspace engine but could travel with i believe ion engines. built first, destroyed 7 years after the A New Hope.
Storm In A Teacup 04.13.19	oh to that point sure lol
Storm In A Teacup 04.13.19	A big part of the Star Wars story for the 60 years of Palpatine being prevalent was that he was obsessed with building large super weapons and couldn't stop to the point that he didn't know what all was being built or where. He didn't even know about the prototype Death Star hanging out. He also didn't know about the Empire building the Sun Crusher but if he did he would have probably driven it around himself and blown up the entire universe lol
anarchistfish 04.13.19	if it's not in the movies it can fuck off tbh
Uzumaki 04.13.19	8 was decent, not as good as 7; kinda feel like it bit off more than it could chew, storywise. It was still better than the latest Star Trek film. I'll be looking forward to this to see how they wrap everything up, and hopefully this'll be it for the franchise. WE DON'T NEED YOU MILKING EVERY LAST DROP FROM STAR WARS, DISNEY!!!!
Storm In A Teacup 04.13.19	"if it's not in the movies it can fuck off tbh" that's a good way to not like Star Wars. I would rather enjoy Star Wars
Storm In A Teacup 04.13.19	"hopefully this'll be it for the franchise." i hope you aren't this naive in other aspects of life.
Storm In A Teacup 04.13.19	people who only care about the movies don't need to be in an in-depth discussion critiquing a brand that is way more than movies.
Uzumaki 04.13.19	Hell no, I'm just getting tired of everything being a franchise/reboot/reimagining/spinoff/what have you at this point. It's not hard to use some brain cells to come up with some new and original, but I get it, I've gotten it for decades: money talks, nostalgia is a fucking cash cow.
SitarHero 04.13.19	Hell no, I'm just getting tired of everything being a franchise/reboot/reimagining/spinoff/what have you at this point. It's not hard to use some brain cells to come up with some new and original, but I get it, I've gotten it for decades: money talks, nostalgia is a fucking cash cow. [2]
anarchistfish 04.13.19	star wars was only ever the movies originally. to 95% of people star wars is just the movies. the movies have to carry it. can't rely on extended lore to paper over their cracks
anarchistfish 04.13.19	also i'm still pissed Kotor is no longer canon
Storm In A Teacup 04.13.19	Agreed.
Storm In A Teacup 04.13.19	"also i'm still pissed Kotor is no longer canon" yeah that's bullshit!!!
Storm In A Teacup 04.13.19	"can't rely on extended lore to paper over their cracks" double agreed. which is why i haven't read any of the new books since the old canon was destroyed. old canon is still canon to me damnit.
Wildcardbitchesss 04.13.19	â€œpeople who only care about the movies don't need to be in an in-depth discussion critiquing a brand that is way more than movies.â€ lol homie I grew up watching these movies, just because I havenâ€™t read a shitload of non canon books doesnâ€™t mean I canâ€™t participate
Storm In A Teacup 04.13.19	well obviously but it's sputnik.
Kurai 04.13.19	What I don't get about The Last Jedi hatred is all the people calling it 'the worst movie ever made'. I love the film personally, and I can understand people not liking it, but... seriously? No matter what your thoughts are on it, there are way worse films. Heck, it's not even the worst Star Wars movie (Attack of the Clones has that title). In fact, here's 5 films that are way worse than The Last Jedi: The Last Airbender Thunderbirds (awful live action version of a beloved British TV series from the 60's) Alien Resurrection Batman and Robin Man of Steel
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	@rowan rose is the worst star wars movie character of all time.
Uzumaki 04.13.19	Holy fucking shit... Thanks a lot for reminding me the adaptation of "Thunderbirds" still exists. That movie spat on a ton of my childhood memories.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	also regarding hatred for Last Jedi the movie has possibly even more face-palmery than any other star-wars film, even the prequels, and is basically the shamaylan of the franchise, BUT the silent space explosion and the fight scene with snokes guard have more merit than all three of the prequels combined, and as long as these movies are better than the prequels i'll show up and be mildly entertained and probably not throw a temper tantrum
neekafat 04.13.19	Yeah Rose sucks but I love TLJ too Kurai
CygnusX1 04.13.19	Movies are all subjective. I don't think TLJ was the worst movie ever but the script was hot garbage. Mary Poppins Leia? Casino Planet arc? Luke's entire character development? It felt like a bad fan film with way too much budget. And the most boring and uneventful chase sequence ever brought to film. It had some good cgi shots and cinematography but that's about it.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	that being said, rowans level of love for last jedi vs hate for force awakens raises some brows given the horse-shoe polar lack of depth in both
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	@cyg dont forget the whole part of the movie where laura dern has a plan
Rowan5215 04.13.19	I know this is gonna sound backtrack-y but I really, really do not care enough about Star Wars to be that invested in any of the movies. it's the fact that I'm so ambivalent towards the whole series that makes me respect how TLJ just up and fucked with basically all the core assumptions of the new trilogy because that takes guts, and even though said movie was undoubtedly dumb as all fuck, I still respect it infinitely more than JJ's boring nostalgia trip/reskinned original trilogy. that's really my only agenda in even posting here
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	TFA: milquetoast, safe, nostalgic, harmless TLJ: edgy, stranger-danger, offensive, destructive double edged sword
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	@rowan i gotcha, you came off as a bit more invested than that based off the pointedness of your tone regarding tfa but i stand corrected
Rowan5215 04.13.19	of course, but for me milquetoast is literally by far the worst thing a movie (or any art) can ever be described as, so there's one edge of that sword i'm tryina avoid a lot more than the other lol
Rowan5215 04.13.19	ya i should stop posting at 5am i get very worked up over dumb shit lmao
CygnusX1 04.13.19	You mean the part where Poe has a psychotic break and wants to mutiny the captain because he wasn't told what to do for 5 minutes and everyone just kind of agrees for no reason? To be fair I only saw the movie once but it came off more like a Scooby-doo cartoon than a star wars movie, and star wars has always been pretty goofy sci-fi
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	i would respect rian ~subverting everything~ if he did a good job of it as i also have little emotional investment, but i just think he did like, the most predictable and hackneyed job of it ever
CygnusX1 04.13.19	Totally agree Rowan, I'd much rather watch an stupid original story fucking bomb than a pretty good remake/reboot. We can all be glad disney's taking a break from star wars
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	arent they making like 74 disney plus star wars tv shows tho?
Rowan5215 04.13.19	"Totally agree Rowan, I'd much rather watch an stupid original story fucking bomb than a pretty good remake/reboot." I'm honestly not sure if this is sarcasm or not because I personally would genuinely much rather do that any day haha I mean the script was a mess, sure, but bar maybe one Star War movies have always had trash scripts - if they deliver some dope visuals I'm usually happy, and TLJ was arguably the best SW movie ever on a visual front
Source 04.13.19	my favorite part of TLJ was when Leia did the Mary Poppins thing back into the ship. nearly fell out of my chair
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	that was such a missed opportunity considering rian was all about deconstructing and subverting the franchise. would have been way better if she literally just got blown the fuck up to death in that scene. plus then we wouldnt have to worry about how she works into the next films after her death
CygnusX1 04.13.19	Nah I'm serious lol. I love a good popcorn flick, so I don't mind seeing a bad film. It's more fun to talk shit on a bad movie than to see a safe movie that doesn't try anything new or different.
Source 04.13.19	good point pots. but i appreciated the unintentional comedy of it
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	yeah it was pretty fucking hysterical
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	another missed opportunity: in rogue one when they decide to make cheesy soapbox death scenes for each of these new characters that you dont give a fuck about and then proceed to have darth vader massacre a crew of nobodies... should have been massacring the main characters as they died protecting the ~baton~
AlexKzillion 04.13.19	â€œthat was such a missed opportunity considering rian was all about deconstructing and subverting the franchise. would have been way better if she literally just got blown the fuck up to death in that scene. plus then we wouldnt have to worry about how she works into the next films after her deathâ€ Rian NOT killing Leia off after Carrie Fisherâ€™s death was a subversion in and of itself.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	"Rian NOT killing Leia off after Carrie Fisherâ€™s death was a subversion in and of itself." lol principal photography was completed months before she died you dunce. i guess that would be subversive if rian was a psychic.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	actually no, then it would just be a dick move lol
Rowan5215 04.13.19	"in rogue one when they decide to make cheesy soapbox death scenes for each of these new characters that you dont give a fuck about and then proceed to have darth vader massacre a crew of nobodies... should have been massacring the main characters as they died protecting the ~baton~" this was the original ending before Disney vetoed it right? or did I just read that as a rumour somewhere. shit would have been fucking fire, like they get no dialogue or anything, camera doesn't linger on them, just Vader fucking plows through the main cast of the film
Source 04.13.19	that would require balls on disney's part
thedoom 04.13.19	Itâ€˜s weird how they managed to create one of the best star wars scenes ever, yet the rest of the new movies are so boring and dumb.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	@rowan im not sure, just what i thought when watching it, either way it sure fucking should have been. thats the star wars edginess we deserve haha.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	i dunno, if we are talking about 'scenes' strictly i think there are quite a few from the new films that are top star wars moments. but i mean we've come a long way in our capabilities from the originals and the prequels so id be more surprised if that didnt happen. some of the moments that come to mind are, as mentioned earlier, the silent explosion and royal guard fight in tlj the scene where kylo freezes the laser beam with the fore in tfa vader massacre scene in rogue one as well as just the visual spectacle that is the beginning scene with mads
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	"that would require balls on disney's part" they had the balls to let the last jedi happen lol or was that just the lack of brains? anyways i just remembered. the new star wars movie scene that takes the cake for unintentionally hysterical for me is darth vaders "don't choke on your aspirations" so good
CygnusX1 04.13.19	That royal guard fight was cool until you notice the actors are just flailing around wildly and get knocked back when nothing hits them. I vote the scene where rose stops finns suicide move for a kiss as the most hilariously wtf moment in star wars. Or benicio del toro just being in the movie at all
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	"That royal guard fight was cool until you notice the actors are just flailing around wildly and get knocked back when nothing hits them. " lol i hadnt noticed. but visually and aurally its just so intense. like right down to the sounds of the LASER SWORDS grazing shit and crunching through armour its like an asmr experience "I vote the scene where rose stops finns suicide move for a kiss as the most hilariously wtf moment in star wars. Or benicio del toro just being in the movie at all" these are acceptable too
Source 04.13.19	yeah we should get a list of hilarious moments going. I nominate the emperor's disfiguration in episode III
Source 04.13.19	and vader's NOOOOOOOO scene
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	there are 2 things that star wars is consistent about: supplying an endless supply of the most LOL moments in cinematic history prematurely killing every cool looking character falling
SitarHero 04.13.19	"I vote the scene where rose stops finns suicide move for a kiss as the most hilariously wtf moment in star wars." This. Times 1,000,000.
AlexKzillion 04.13.19	â€œlol principal photography was completed months before she died you dunce. i guess that would be subversive if rian was a psychic.â€ Was unaware. I still find it subversive because what you said in the quote I quoted earlier is not what Rian ended up doing even though it makes much more sense. I feel like weâ€™ve discussed this scene before but I think just the absurdity of Leia â€œcoming backâ€ after being blown up was subversive, (even without taking into account the marry poppins aspect)... especially with the added external context of her real life death.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	yeah i strongly disagree. especially since the entire thing was just a stage to spoon-feed spittle-chinned general audiences the fact that leia has force powers, a fact that has been less than subtly hinted at for decades. pffff. it was predictable, plus these films are far too toothless to take a major player from us without the soapbox heart-wrenching curtain call they all get. fishers irl death doesn't even factor in this sense because alive or not, the franchise doesn't have the balls to do something as abrupt and shocking as mercilessly kill off a main character in the first act with complete disregard.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	unless they are a cool looking villain who needs to randomly fall.
CygnusX1 04.13.19	Padme falling for an 11 year old Jar Jar as a politician I hate sand speech Yoda's fight with dooku blind guy casually walks through warzone unharmed Green titty milk Even "I am your father" is like wtf lol okay Star wars is a comedy
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	the jar jar sith lord theory is the best thing ive ever heard in my entire life and i wish it was legit
Source 04.13.19	haven't heard that theory
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezcP-Ys_voY
ArsMoriendi 04.13.19	I can't wait for the day when the milking nerdy franchises fad goes out of fashion Up next: milking the idea of a video game movie, headed by the Detective Pikachu and Sonic the Hedgehog movies.
Kurai 04.13.19	â€œHoly fucking shit... Thanks a lot for reminding me the adaptation of "Thunderbirds" still exists. That movie spat on a ton of my childhood memories.â€ I apologise for this, unfortunately the film still exists along with the awful song that Busted wrote for the end credits (which was only redeemed by Charlie Simpson going on to form Fightstar). But back on track, I enjoyed the trailer a lot and am hoping for a decent end to the saga. Sure, thereâ€™s been things in the other sequels that I wasnâ€™t too keen on, but thatâ€™s mostly outweighed by stuff I really liked (watched TFA earlier, and had a heck of a great time doing so). I know people complain about the humour in TLJ, but I feel itâ€™s no worse than the awful childish humour that ran rampant throughout The Phantom Menace.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	if intentional humour bothers you in your laser sword movies you might be a fucking dork
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	i prescribe breathing through your nose
Deathconscious 04.13.19	"I vote the scene where rose stops finns suicide move for a kiss as the most hilariously wtf moment in star wars." It was so stupid. "Omg Finn i know we have zero chemistry and showed no romantic interest before and i hardly know you, but i love you." Could hollywood just stop with these fucking forced romances already.
Deathconscious 04.13.19	However, i vote Leia suddenly summoning force powers she never had to pull herself into the ship from the fucking vacuum of space without any explanation to be the most wtf moment.
CygnusX1 04.13.19	Leia Poppins is legendary, can't wait to see what wtf moments they have for the new one. My money's on Emperor possessing kylo or rey and making them say "do it"
Tundra 04.13.19	Episode 8 really left me on a sour note but I'm semi-excited to see Episode 9
Source 04.13.19	that jar jar conspiracy theory video is actually pretty convincing lol
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.13.19	hahahaha i know, i stumbled upon that before TFA came out and I was like "I would absolutely be ok with Jar Jar turning out to be the secret big bad for the new trilogy" lol
Storm In A Teacup 04.14.19	the more you people talk the more it's hard to pretend that I love The Last Jedi. stop making such great points!
Source 04.14.19	you've seen the light
thedoom 04.14.19	Imagine the possibilities if they gave in to the memes with this one.
thedoom 04.14.19	I mean, itâ€˜s not like they can salvage this mess...
anarchistfish 04.14.19	Redlettermedia review said all that has to be said about tlj https://youtu.be/L9hwGZFPSmw
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.14.19	thats about 40 minutes too long for my attention span regarding the subject matter
anarchistfish 04.14.19	I've watched it like 4 times
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.14.19	Hmm maybe I'll try
Trebor. 04.14.19	I only care about this movie for the half in the bag episode
anarchistfish 04.14.19	Yh better than the movie tbh
StrikeOfTheBeast 04.14.19	You gotta admit that scene where Yoda's fuckin' around with Luke in The Last Jedi was awesome.
Wildcardbitchesss 04.14.19	The Last Jedi as a whole is awesome
StrikeOfTheBeast 04.14.19	Dude....high five!
Storm In A Teacup 04.14.19	heck yeah it is. it's a beautifully filmed movie.
anarchistfish 04.14.19	Nothing is achieved the entire movie. It's meant to be the meat of this epic new trilogy but you end up in the same position as the beginning of the movie except Luke and snoke are dead
anarchistfish 04.14.19	& don't tell me that's the whole point
Storm In A Teacup 04.14.19	it's just 1 episode out of 9, a story was told, not a point, so no biggie. Â¯_(ãƒ„)_/Â¯
Kurai 04.14.19	You could argue the same about Empire tbh. In the grand scheme of things, all that changes is that Han gets frozen in carbonate and Luke finds out that Vader's his father. As far as the conflict between the Rebellion and the Empire is concerned, not much happens asides from the opening on Hoth. Thatâ€™s not a slight against it as thatâ€™s why itâ€™s my favourite film, but just something that I should point out.
Storm In A Teacup 04.14.19	"nothing is achieved" having a fleet reduced to one starship and knowing any other fleets that were on your side are not coming to your aide is a pretty big deal.
Storm In A Teacup 04.14.19	both sides went in on the other to the point it cost both nearly everything. that's a big deal.
neekafat 04.14.19	Fuckin love TLJ
Storm In A Teacup 04.14.19	Fuckin love TLJ (2)
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.14.19	Hamill should stick to voice acting at this point
PistolPete 04.14.19	Maybe the dumbest title of all the movies thus far which is saying something. Iunno I thought this trilogy was supposed to be a new chapter in the franchise and from my point all Iâ€™ve seen is just a lot of fan service and one final hoorah for all the old actors who are nostalgic favourites
Source 04.14.19	agreed
Kalopsia 04.15.19	"nothing is achieved" i agree with this in terms of Empire and TLJ, but Empire didn't shit all over the groundwork that ANH built up, like TLJ did with TFA
AlexKzillion 04.15.19	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNTLC_uiGFA
Kalopsia 04.16.19	read some theory that the title "Rise of Skywalker" means that Rey is simply re-branding the 'Jedi' as 'Skywalkers'. dumb dumb dumb dumb
Rik VII 04.16.19	It took 9 episodes and the title "Rise of Skywalker" for me to notice that every Star Wars film title to date has been jarringly generic. It's on a horror franchise level
Kalopsia 04.16.19	lucas has stated previously he purposely gave campy titles to the movies
Deathconscious 04.16.19	"Empire didn't shit all over the groundwork that ANH built up, like TLJ did with TFA" It needed to be shat on, the groundwork was shit.
Source 04.16.19	very good point
Kalopsia 04.16.19	i'm not saying what TFA set up was great, but halfway through a trilogy, you don't just throw out the baby with the bathwater because you want to be edgy
Sinternet 04.16.19	'read some theory that the title "Rise of Skywalker" means that Rey is simply re-branding the 'Jedi' as 'Skywalkers'. dumb dumb dumb dumb' stop reading retarded fan theories then
Kurai 04.16.19	I watched TFA and TLJ again over the weekend, and while both have a few issues, I enjoy both films and would place them before ROTJ in my rankings of all the films so far. The only issues I had with TLJ were Canto Bight feeling super out of place tonally, Captain Phasma being a complete waste (again), and the whole forced Finn/Rose relationship. I'm excited that we get more Finn and Poe working together in this next film, they played well off of each other in The Force Awakens and it just sucks that they haven't had much screen time together so far.
anarchistfish 04.17.19	"it's just 1 episode out of 9, a story was told, not a point, so no biggie. Â¯_(ãƒ„)_/Â¯" yh tbh my whole vibe the movie was "star wars is marvel now". It feels like the start of a 50 film anthology that just dicks about most the time. or like rich evans says, the start of the adventures of kylo ren and the jedi children's tv show "having a fleet reduced to one starship and knowing any other fleets that were on your side are not coming to your aide is a pretty big deal." i mean i guess but then i don't really care cos neither sequel makes much effort to lay out the actual political state of the galaxy so there's no way to gauge any of the shit that actually fucking happens
anarchistfish 04.17.19	they should rename ROTJ Grandpa has a Mid-Life Crisis
Storm In A Teacup 04.17.19	"I thought this trilogy was supposed to be a new chapter in the franchise and from my point all Iâ€™ve seen is just a lot of fan service and one final hoorah for all the old actors who are nostalgic favourites" that's because you are ignorant and don't pay attention that it's been said by everyone who can tell you that it's the final chapter of the skywalker story.
Kalopsia 04.17.19	^ they say that, but it's obviously in favor of being lazy and cashing in on nostalgia
AlexKzillion 04.17.19	Wasnâ€™t their initial goal with the trilogy to â€œmove pastâ€ the Skywalker story as opposed to â€œfinishingâ€ it though? Like I couldâ€™ve swore they emphasized that they wanted to build up new characters and new story arcs for a new generation of star wars fans (and therefore be able to pump out a new trilogy every decade), which tbh thatâ€™s pretty much what they were trying to do with 7 and 8 respectively (and rogue one too but thatâ€™s sorta different), where as now theyâ€™re literally putting Skywalker in the title and bringing Palpatine back and everything in an effort to draw people back in after TLJ went â€œtoo farâ€. The reaction to TLJ coupled with Solo flopping seems to have made Disney completely reset their goals in regards to what they wanted to do with Star Wars.
Kalopsia 04.17.19	I'VE GONE TOO FAR reminds me of Sunny in Philly where Frank poops the bed. which is a pretty accurate comparison for Rian Johnson and TLJ
anarchistfish 04.17.19	this all started when they gave 3 parts of a trilogy to 3 different writer/directors with no actual idea of where it would go