BerryGarlicia
10.25.18 | machine head is an amzin album, but i wouldnt call it metal |
TheClansman95
10.25.18 | I have to disagree on several choices you made bro. BTW, Reign In Blood >>> MOP |
joshb9864
10.25.18 | It was 1972, my choices were very limited |
joshb9864
10.25.18 | Master of Puppets is better than Reign in Blood for me, two very good albums. However the songwriting is stronger on MOP, while RIB has more intensity. To me it’s just what you prefer |
WoodeeX
10.25.18 | neither reign in blood or MOP were even close to being the best metal album of '86 |
joshb9864
10.25.18 | What is it then? |
WoodeeX
10.25.18 | Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Dark Angel - Darkness Descends
Watchtower - Energetic Assembly
Iron Maiden - Somewhere in Time
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joshb9864
10.25.18 | Only one I considered was Iron Maiden |
Friday13th
10.25.18 | lol no way those are better than Puppets
fun list btw |
rockandmetaljunkie
10.25.18 | deep purple is not metal but whatever... |
WoodeeX
10.25.18 | just because you haven't heard them before doesn't mean theyre not good. I thought Metallica was groundbreaking too until I started listening to more underground and extreme bands. Dark Angel and Watchtower are far superior thrash bands to Metallica |
WoodeeX
10.25.18 | And I suggest putting Acid Bath in the '94 spot if you haven't listened to their debut yet |
joshb9864
10.25.18 | It’s not that I haven’t heard them, because I have. I genuinely believe that Master of Puppets is the best metal album of that year |
joshb9864
10.25.18 | I’m not on the underground music is always better train. Sometimes it is, sometimes it’s not. |
WoodeeX
10.25.18 | Im not on a "train", I just like my metal more extreme and visceral, and extreme music will never have mass appeal. Its just hard for me to go back and listen to Metallica when there's bands out there that are far better musicians with far more creativity.
And even if you were trying to pick good mainstream metal records for the 2000s, this list would still be awful. After The Burial? Killer be Killed? are you kidding?
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teamster
10.25.18 | 1993 is one of my favorite years. Two of my top three albums of all time reside there and a bunch of honorable mentions:
Coroner - Grin
Voivod - The Outer Limits
Carcass - Heartwork
Anacrusis - Screams and Whispers
Sepultura - Chaos AD
Entombed - Wolverine Blues
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StrikeOfTheBeast
10.25.18 | 1989: Beneath The Remains, Extreme Aggression, Nothingface, and Blessing in Disguise alone kick Dr. Feelgood's ass any day of the week.
1992: Retribution, a Vision of Misery, and Epidemic of Violence are better albums.
1994: Emperor's In The Nightside Eclipse for sure.
Otherwise the list starts off well. |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.25.18 | This is a really interesting idea for a list |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.25.18 | List is fucking amazing btw - I love all of this, and now I love you too |
Friday13th
10.25.18 | @WoodeeX bro, I've heard all of those. Each one is a solid 4/5 |
bloc
10.25.18 | Sweet, this would be a fun idea |
Meridiu5
10.25.18 | LOL |
WoodeeX
10.25.18 | 23 is the most overrated metal album of the 90s |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.25.18 | You watch your goddamn tongue, wood
Pantera is fucking awesome - the internet hate towards that band is nice and trendy and whatever but it’s stupid and wrong |
StrikeOfTheBeast
10.25.18 | @WoodeeX exactly. |
joshb9864
10.25.18 | Agreed lucca
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neekafat
10.25.18 | 18 sux |
StrikeOfTheBeast
10.25.18 | Power Metal's better. |
StrikeOfTheBeast
10.25.18 | @neekafat ouch |
WoodeeX
10.25.18 | nah bro and trust me, all of a high school I loved Pantera as well. But over the years Ive got bored with surface level groove metal where the riffs are short and catchy, sure, but that's it. Theyre riff machines, nothing else. No complex song structures, no change up of style, nothing inventive other than the riffs. Which is fine I guess, just not for me.
This is kinda the same reason I fell out of nu-metal after adoring bands like Machine Head, Korn, and Slipknot. It's just musical instant gratification, the "candy" of metal. |
joshb9864
10.25.18 | For reference- my favorite subgenres are Thrash, Metalcore, Groove, Melodic Death, and Sludge |
StrikeOfTheBeast
10.25.18 | @WoodeeX I think we can all agree that Dimebag's solos are just plain awesome. |
Hawks
10.25.18 | This list kinda blows. |
StrikeOfTheBeast
10.25.18 | @joshb9864 Thrash and Death for life! m/ |
mandan
10.25.18 | I don't see a prob with putting DP here. After all, they were pretty much as crucial as Sabbath in setting a basis for metal. The hard/rock metal line was pretty gray back then.
IMO, Priest was one of the key bands in splitting hard rock from metal. |
WoodeeX
10.25.18 | Pantera has great solos? big fuckin whoop. Solos don't mean anything. Its just the guitarist jerking himself off in front of a crowd. Im interested in the creativity going into the making of a song: time signatures, song structure, progressive elements, dynamic transitions, etc |
joshb9864
10.25.18 | Danny boy couldn’t have said it better, everything you said is correct |
joshb9864
10.25.18 | “Progressive elements” well there ya go. You lost all of your arguments for me right there. |
StrikeOfTheBeast
10.25.18 | @WoodeeX How about jammin' some Power Metal? best non-Cowboys Pantera. |
Nazzadan
10.25.18 | Good list idea, I kinda wanna make one of these now :DAB: |
WoodeeX
10.25.18 | josh.. that makes no sense. just because you don't like prog doesn't mean I lost an argument.
and Strike, i'm done listening to Pantera. Ive listened through most of their records hundreds of times in the ages 14-18. Yes I still concede they're a good band but compared to bands like Acid Bath, Crowbar, Eyehategod, Meshuggah, and Kyuss, Pantera is pretty shit |
RippingCorpse1986
10.25.18 | Lmaoooooo Lucca snapped.
This list kinda blows. [2] |
StrikeOfTheBeast
10.25.18 | Eh I digress |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.25.18 | Nah man, Phil anselmo sounds like a monster, dimebags riffs and solos are genuinely awesome and vinne Paul was actually the man when he was in Pantera. I was around for the 90s as well, no one was making music like them, especially in the mainstream. They had genuinely heavy and interesting moments and brought a sincere southern style to the genre that didn’t exist before. Vulgar display of power definitely deserves that spot imo. I listen to mostly death and thrash metal but Pantera still pumps me up more than most bands. |
Casavir
10.25.18 | Cowboys from Hell is the one that deserves it the most and even then, that album came out in a year with ludicrously strong competition from both more established bands and then newcomers. There were much more forward-thinking and well-rounded albums to come out in 1992 than Vulgar Display imo |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.25.18 | Also what are you expecting with Pantera? Some crazy progressive experimental shit? They’re Pantera. They were great at what they did, my man.
@rippingcorpse- YOU GODDAMN RIGHT |
StrikeOfTheBeast
10.25.18 | We really are seeing......
the dark side of Lucca. |
Casavir
10.25.18 | Honestly, one of the shittiest things about this list is putting Spreading the Disease for '85 when albums like Energetic Disassembly were coming out that same year. It's even shittier with Among the Living as well since it's easily one of the most mediocre metal albums of all time, let alone in thrash metal. |
swipenet
10.25.18 | Nice list |
WoodeeX
10.25.18 | actually theyre were bands making music in the same style during the same period. you just didn't know about them. As I said before, Acid Bath, Crowbar, Eyehategod, Kyuss, and Exhorder were all around the same time as Pantera and were far superior. also look at your quote:"vinnie Paul was actually the man when he was in Pantera." wtf is this supposed to mean? "the man", ya theres a lot of people who identify as male, whats your point? |
joshb9864
10.25.18 | I like prog, I don't like it when people want everything to be prog. Also Kyuss, Meshuggah, Crowbar, all fantastic bands. |
WoodeeX
10.25.18 | and that fucking song "Walk".....easily one of the worst metal songs of all time. I will never know how it got so popular. I hated it even when I was obsessed with the band |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.25.18 | “There are a lot of people who identified as male”
Jesus Christ you know what I meant lol. Post Pantera vinnie Paul sucks, but he was great back in the day. I love all those bands you mentioned but they don’t make Pantera any less amazing imo
We may not come to an agreement on this issue, wood and it makes me sad |
StrikeOfTheBeast
10.25.18 | Exhorder....goddamn what a band. m/ |
WoodeeX
10.25.18 | also I didn't say I wanted Pantera to be prog. I said prog "elements". An example of this would be like Black Sabbath's "Fairies Wear Boots", or Kyuss' "Suba Scoop", where the song changes up its style throughout to make the song interesting and fresh. Sure, Pantera can hammer a riff but its gets boring when its the same riff the entire song. |
joshb9864
10.25.18 | I love Fairies Wear Boots |
WoodeeX
10.25.18 | Lucca I thought exactly what you were thinking when I was into Pantera, trust me. For years I couldn't get enough of it. But im burned out on them now and Id rather listen to other bands. |
StrikeOfTheBeast
10.25.18 | YEAH FAIRIES WEAR BOOTS
AND YOU GOTTA BELIEVE MEEEE
YEAH I SAW IT, I SAW IT
AND I TELL YOU NO LIHIEEEES |
Casavir
10.25.18 | I like how Woodee tries to do this whole "muh pruhgressif" thing but put bands like Darkest Hour and Bell Witch on his top 10 list for last year. |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.25.18 | I like Pantera because they remind me of early Genesis |
mandan
10.25.18 | BTW, where's MF? |