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| POST PUNK OFF, A COMPETITION ROUND 4
RULES: A sister-competition to the "Con VS Unique Emo Crown". Two competitors rec 30 albums, 1 at a time, to 3 judges. A new round of recs will be presented once all three judges have finished rating/listening to both albums. This will continue until a total of 30 albums will be presented, 15 from each competitor. Winner will be determined by the highest AVG but tie breaker will be whoever had the best rec and each judge gets 1 vote for that.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------NEW RULE: Competitors who fail to submit their recs within 1 day after each list's creation will have .5 deducted from their score for EACH day late ____JUDGES: Conmaniac, DeadlyNightShade, neekafat_____ COMPETITORS: UniqueUniverse, Tyler.,teamster_______ EMO COMPETITION: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?mode=1&listid=176039#comments | 1 | | Joy Division Unknown Pleasures
CURRENT SCORES: **(not including Deadly's round 3 scores)
UniqueUniverse: 40.5
Tyler.: 42.3
teamster: 36.3 | 2 | | Preoccupations Preoccupations
UniqueUniverse rec
Con: After the first few songs I thought this was going to easily be the worst album in this round as the first few tracks are terribly drab and monochromatic. Before listening, I was horrified to find out that Memory lasted for 11 minutes, but afterwards a noticeable shift in the album’s tone appeared, much to my delight. The second half of this album ranges from amazing to okay, but the highlights just barely make up for the snoozefest before it. Still gonna have to mark it down a bit, but I could see this album growing the most with repeated listens (neeka take note...). 3.3/5 | 3 | | Preoccupations Preoccupations
Neeka: While the album was off to a rough start (let’s just say “Monotony” lives up to its title), after the startlingly long “Memory,” things more than pick up. The epic itself is likely the best moment on the album, with a momentum and power that was sorely lacking on the first act of the album. The varied song lengths give a sense of unpredictability to the album, and the two minute-long tracks “Sense” and “Forbidden” add more than they take away from the albums aura. The muscle featured on later tracks such as “Simulation” is impressive, and certainly implies that this is an album that clearly deserves further listening. 3.4/5
Track Ratings: Anxiety: 7 -, Monotony: 6 +, Zodiac: 6.5 +, Memory: 8 -, Degraded: 7.5 +, (Sense), Forbidden: 7 +, Stimulation: 8 -, Fever: 7 + | 4 | | Preoccupations Preoccupations
Deadly: Preoccupations begins rather drearily with downtrodden opener “Anxiety” which features vocals that sound as if the lead singer has worn down to his last thread and is ready to fall apart. A fitting tone being set as the song is basically about being bitter and losing faith in just about everything due to an overwhelming sense of anxiety. Throughout the album it seems as though instrumentation and vocal delivery is done in a way that pairs with each set of emotions the songs discuss lyrically. At times this can result in rather repetitive structures most notably in “Monotony” but as I’ve stated, this is done quite purposefully. There is a clear and present scheme at work and a clear buildup as the album progresses. The true shift in sound occurs on “Memory” Where new elements are brought into play and things truly begin to take off both instrumentally and vocally. Soundscapes build and instrumentals boost to eminent heights on tracks like “Degraded” which starts off dreamy and | 5 | | Preoccupations Preoccupations
Deadly (cont.): innocent until you are punched by the crushing bass riff halfway into the track paired with fast tempo drums which pummel the listener. Unfortunately, I was left feeling a bit saddened by the rather slow and mundane closer “Fever” which fails to impress. Considering the way the album takes off from “Memory” onwards I didn’t expect to have the energy dropped on the closer. 3.6/5 | 6 | | The Sound Jeopardy
Con: This is post punk at it’s most visceral, The Sound appear impassioned and angry at the world and for good reason. A very consistent album that relies on gritty riffs and some nice, modern-sounding synth work which adds to the atmosphere a ton. Even a saxophone appears which caught me off-guard but was very welcome. And finally, this is an album with two obvious standout tracks, namely Missiles for its epic vocal chorus and delivery. It’s a solid album, but personally I’m not the biggest fan of the straightforward, repetitive post punk seen on this album and it’s really the only thing holding me back from giving it a higher score. 3.9/5 | 7 | | The Sound Jeopardy
Neeka: This is repetition done right; taking good riffs and exploiting them as much as possible with changes in pacing, rhythm, and a talented vocalist. While it didn’t blow me away, I really enjoyed this album and can see why it’s considered a classic among post-punk fans. I just wish there was that extra oomph to get it a little bit farther. Very modern-sounding for the time too, I might add. 3.7/5
Track Ratings: I Can’t Escape Myself: 7.5 +, Heartland: 8 -, Hour of Need: 7.5 +, Words Fail Me: 7.5 -, Missles: 7 +, Heyday: 7 +, Jeopardy: 7.5 -, Night Versus Day: 7.5 +, Resistance: 7.5 +, Unwritten Law: 8 -, Desire: 7.5 + | 8 | | The Sound Jeopardy
Deadly: A bombastic and energetic listen, Jeopardy, is an album that just keeps kicking. As said by Neeka, the most impressive part of this album is the ability of the band to know exactly how to exploit their most powerful element in each song. Whether it be through well-placed guitar solos, knowing when a riff is working and allowing it room to breathe and repeat or accentuating intense vocals with instrumentation that pushes the track to the absolute limit. The only thing that may take away from replay value would be the rather vintage production. However, in my eyes this only adds to the experience and I could easily imagine listening to this on vinyl. 4.2/5 | 9 | | Stellarscope March of the Lonely
Con: One of the most painful listens of this competition if I’m being honest, March of the Lonely is 9 songs too many and fails to impress in any way. At first the album seems to kick off well with a not-so-post, punk track, but soon this gives way to 13 post punk tinged “we listen to shoegaze” songs with little to no originality. I’ll be blunt, the vocalist is not good, the drummer seems to be ever so slightly off, and the production that appears raw at first is just flat out bad and inhibiting. Although there’s a few gems in the rough, namely the songs where the lead singer is absent, they fail to make enough of a mark to make me consider this a “good” album. I really did like the atmospheric guitar work and some of the juicy basslines that popped in but they were sadly overshadowed by carelessly mixed vocals and consistently off-tempo drumming. This is mediocrity at its finest, try again. 2.4/5 | 10 | | Stellarscope March of the Lonely
Neeka: Carelessly throwing genres around like nobody’s business, March of the Lonely sounds like the first demo of a band with a lot of potential, not the work of a group that’s been making music for 15 years. The singer sounds like he’s trying to gargle water after smoking 4 packs a day and the drummer attempts fast fills while being strangely bad at timing. These two bring down the album considerably, and is at its best when not relying on their work. While it functions better as a collection of decent songs than as a cohesive album, it’s really not that bad. It’s just that it doesn’t bring anything new to the genre or this competition. Also, everything Con said. 2.7/5
Track Ratings: Stay Away from Me: 7 +, Fashionably Late, Again: 6 -, Damn, I Hope You’re Happy: 7.5 -, Set the World on Fire: 6 +, Never Fit In: 6.5 +, Overblown: 5.5 +, One Terrible Place: 6 +, Status Quo: 6 -, Hypervelocity Stars: 7.5 +, It Is Too Late: 6.5 +, Island Universe: 5 +, All for You: 6.5 -, Up in Smoke: 6 | 11 | | Stellarscope March of the Lonely
Deadly: After finally having trudged through a listen of this album I’m left with nothing but disgust and frustration. I probably should have listened to the title of the first track and stayed away, sadly, I didn’t. March of the Lonely starts off with a beat that seems promising up until vocals begin. Vocals tend to be lackluster at best and are some of the worst I have ever heard. As the album continues, you can’t help but notice more and more things wrong with what’s going on here. A band that has 15 years under their belt should at least be at a mediocre level of playing, but the only members of the band who are not are the guitarist and the bassist. These two members are overshadowed ninety percent of the time by poor off tempo drumming and atrocious mixing. When you have a vocalist as week as Stellarscope you don’t put him at the forefront of the mix, you bury him in the instrumentals. Unfortunately, we are only given a break from his god awful performance for 2 tracks, which are | 12 | | Stellarscope March of the Lonely
Deadly (cont.): the only two that ever achieve or exceed mediocrity (“Hypervelocity Stars” and Island Universe). Despite these two tracks it doesn’t salvage an album of 14 tracks in which they had plenty of opportunity to impress or dazzle the listener. I’d continue to degrade this awful album but I just can’t justify giving it that many words to describe it. 2/5 | 13 | | Echo and The Bunnymen Ocean Rain
NEEKA'D
First Score: 3.7
Re-rate: 3.6
Gain/Loss: -.1 | |
Conmaniac
08.05.17 | rec away | Papa Universe
08.05.17 | 4) Preoccupations - S/T | Conmaniac
08.05.17 | former Viet Cong band nice | Papa Universe
08.05.17 | Former Women band. Even nier. | teamster
08.05.17 | Round 4: Stellarscope - March Of The Lonely
| Papa Universe
08.05.17 | Could you add that to the database? | Conmaniac
08.05.17 | has it been added? | Conmaniac
08.05.17 | guess not haha | Tyler.
08.05.17 | the sound - jeopardy | Papa Universe
08.05.17 | Nice choice. I presonally would have gone with From the Lion's Mouth, but still, great record. | Conmaniac
08.05.17 | cool will update. anyone wanna add Stellarscope to the database? | Papa Universe
08.05.17 | Added it | Conmaniac
08.05.17 | thank u man. will update rn | Tyler.
08.05.17 | i think jeopardy is better overall tho lions mouth has my favorite song by them | Papa Universe
08.05.17 | Lemme guess:
Skeletons or Sense of Purpose? | Tyler.
08.05.17 | contact the fact my dude | Papa Universe
08.05.17 | Hmm, a deep cut, nice. | Conmaniac
08.05.17 | he's a true I N D I E K I D | ZombieToyDuck
08.06.17 | Con taking over like a champ, nice 👊🏻 | Papa Universe
08.06.17 | And when are you submitting your comments again? | Conmaniac
08.06.17 | no prob deadly. dude on vacation and was a champ for setting this up | Papa Universe
08.06.17 | aight | Conmaniac
08.06.17 | oh was that @ me?? idk i'll prob jam tomorrow or monday but deadly won't be submitting until at least wednesday. can't speak for neeka | ZombieToyDuck
08.06.17 | Yeah wednesday in the morning (granted i dont get slammed at work after returning from vacation) | teamster
08.06.17 | I will post round 5 (if ready) late tonight. | Conmaniac
08.06.17 | teamster bb you need to read the competition comments sometimes | butcherboy
08.06.17 | oh shoot, I love preoccupations, but that Jeopardy is top 5 post-punk albums for me.. a beauty of a record.. | Conmaniac
08.06.17 | should be a good round then huh? | Papa Universe
08.06.17 | Listening to Stellarscope now; it pops, man, it pops. | neekafat
08.06.17 | Pumped for this, will listen today or tomorrow, recovering from a 13-hour overnight film shoot atm | butcherboy
08.06.17 | yea, I'm giving Stellarscope a go now.. if it stands up to the first two recs, then yep, should be a grand round indeed.. | neekafat
08.06.17 | Hopefully this jams better than last round is all I'm sayin'
Don't let me down boys | Tyler.
08.06.17 | Whatever | neekafat
08.06.17 | < 3 | Conmaniac
08.06.17 | hehehe | teamster
08.06.17 | Conmaniac - what did I miss?? I figured we fell behind after yesterday... | neekafat
08.06.17 | Just got done with the first two
Let's see how well teamster's fares ;) | Conmaniac
08.07.17 | gonna start these babies today | teamster
08.09.17 | Is this thing still on? Neek , check bandcamp ;)
| ZombieToyDuck
08.09.17 | Yes still on, I am back in the game will be catching up on last round today then I'll move on to catchup to this round. | Conmaniac
08.09.17 | we jammed all three, deadly is still mia but I think we about to get this rollin again soon. stay tuned.... | Conmaniac
08.09.17 | OH SHIT hey Deadly hahaha | Papa Universe
08.09.17 | He cometh at last | ZombieToyDuck
08.09.17 | haha same time man I'm back | ZombieToyDuck
08.09.17 | Yes, a triumphant return, got lotss to catch up on | Conmaniac
08.09.17 | haha no rush man 6 albums is p daunting. we can post em in waves too if ya want | ZombieToyDuck
08.09.17 | ya know what, it may be easier to just hear these 3 then go back to that round between this round and next round | Conmaniac
08.09.17 | yeah true so we can post the next list! and while they rec-ing albums u can catch up on round 3 | ZombieToyDuck
08.09.17 | So, wait on me I will give these a listen and try to get writeups done as I listen this round. | Papa Universe
08.09.17 | Who's administrating round 5? | Conmaniac
08.09.17 | I would guess Deadly is taking the lead again | ZombieToyDuck
08.09.17 | Yeah, I can take back over now that I'm back. | Conmaniac
08.09.17 | guess who's back back back
back for this this
Deadly's back back back
Post punk list list list
| neekafat
08.09.17 | My boi Deadlyyyy | teamster
08.09.17 | Neek - did you find Stellars bandcamp page? | Conmaniac
08.09.17 | we found it dont u worry teamster | teamster
08.09.17 | I've got 5 more recs sitting in the kettle brewing.... | Conmaniac
08.09.17 | pre-decided? | teamster
08.09.17 | Yea, I searched my discography. Although most of the remaining are around the shoegazy kind. But they will work. | Conmaniac
08.09.17 | interesting tactic I must say | teamster
08.09.17 | And a few you've heard of I'm sure. | Conmaniac
08.09.17 | oh really? most of ur recs have been p obscure stuff tho | Papa Universe
08.09.17 | I've got each of my future recs predecided too. But I think I'll use Tyler.'s tactic, which I assume is to wait until everyone else submits their albums and then mathematically determine an objectively superior album from the realm of 'classics'. | Conmaniac
08.09.17 | huh interesting as well. I know for the EMO competition I def took into account the opinions of the judges before rec-ing my next album but I also had like 5ish albums I was set on rec-ing no matter what | Papa Universe
08.09.17 | Yeah, I had no strategy for the Emo Crown. I basically just decided on my next rec about five minutes after the write ups were published. | Conmaniac
08.09.17 | haha I did too tbh for a couple at least. speaking of that u think drifter is done?? | Papa Universe
08.09.17 | hol' up | Conmaniac
08.09.17 | oh drifter...haha | Tyler.
08.09.17 | That's not what I'm doing tho lol I'm picking albums that are very good but also good entry points. Just so happens a lot of them are classics | Papa Universe
08.09.17 | Well so far, it's been quite a bullseye run, mate. 3/4 is a good result. | Tyler.
08.09.17 | I mean elvis Costello and new order really got me into it so it made sense to me | Papa Universe
08.09.17 | Yyyeah, I,, I wouldn't necessarily, well, y'know, call them Post-Punk... but I disclosed that before, they're still in the realm of it, but, well, y'know...
...nevermind. | Tyler.
08.09.17 | You know what I mean lol | Conmaniac
08.09.17 | shh dont confuse us judges (; | Tyler.
08.09.17 | Elvis costello ultimately isn't too far off from the sound | Conmaniac
08.09.17 | they were pretty different imo hahah | Papa Universe
08.09.17 | Here's the thing, Post-Punk is quite a diverse little pool, although it doesn't seem so. Bands like Joy Division and This Heat are both classified under it, even though one is mainly slow and chillingly dark and the other is wild and challenging. They are not classified any further than that. Only relatively recently have people started to differenciate things like Sadcore. Naturally, as the time goes, every genre progresses and different bands try to find their own unique sound and in doing so, they might just stumble upon something completely new. Adding synthesisers lead to subsequent creation of New Wave; adding elements of Joy Division-like atmosphere to New Wave lead to Coldwave; adding more darkness into the wild side of traditional Post-Punk lead to Goth Rock; adding electronica there lead to Darkwave. | Conmaniac
08.09.17 | very informative. I def lean more towards the New Wave/Darkwave/goth stuff based on what I've heard so far | neekafat
08.09.17 | My head
It hurts | Papa Universe
08.09.17 | I'll throw something in for reference. | neekafat
08.09.17 | And teamster ye we got it, thanks! | Papa Universe
08.09.17 | None of these are going to be submitted by me, because they either have already been rated by some of you or because I believe they have a high risk of receiving rather lukewarm reactions. Anyone else though, feel free to take these.
Original Post-Punk and all of its musical diversity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCg4i1f_oDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE7JDi7l7ks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EdUjlawLJM
New Wave:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_QLzthSkfM
Goth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa2nLEhUcZ0
Coldwave:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnHetlXDRJw
Darkwave:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_0sL_SQYvw
Revivalism (mostly basing its sound in the likes of Joy Division):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHFjaFPntVg
Revivalism (mostly basing its sound in the likes of New Order):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdy6dONsbQ0 | Conmaniac
08.10.17 | alrighty well we are almost finalized with our writeups...ready to get this thing back on the roadddd | Papa Universe
08.10.17 | I assume Deadly's updating round 3 at the same time with this one, right? | Conmaniac
08.10.17 | yeah when we post the next list he will try to catch up
also we have our first neeka re-rate of the competition! | ZombieToyDuck
08.10.17 | andddd prepare yourselves | Papa Universe
08.10.17 | hit me | ZombieToyDuck
08.10.17 | Oh we will hit you guys, don't worry. The gloves came off this round. | neekafat
08.10.17 | They really really did | Conmaniac
08.10.17 | gonna update brb | Papa Universe
08.10.17 | My heart is pumping | Conmaniac
08.10.17 | boom | Papa Universe
08.10.17 | Damn, you really ripped into that Stellarscope album. | Papa Universe
08.10.17 | Stellarscope - March of the Lonely
Straight-forward and dissonantly coarse album that features some truly striking instrumental and melodic moments. On the other hand, that distortion sometimes takes away from the enjoyment, as it drowns some of the songwriting, which is only strengthened by the disrhytmic instrumentation (like on Damn, I Hope You're Happy). But when it hits home, it hits home, that's true. 3.6/5
The Sound - Jeopardy
Once you decide to go against one of the unquestionably best Post-Punk albums of all times, you better bring the biggest baddest guns. And while I prefer From the Lion's Mouth's roughness and menacing atmosphere more than Jeopardy's sophistication, I still acnowledge the fact that this album is an all-time classic. 4.7/5 | Papa Universe
08.10.17 | Also, Fever by Preoccupations might be one of my favourite Post-Punk tracks of all time, in all honesty. Seeing your collective underappreciation is what saddens me. | neekafat
08.10.17 | Updated scores:
Unique: 40.5
Tyler: 42.3
Teamster: 36.3 | Conmaniac
08.10.17 | yeah that Jeopardy album is killer. surprised you were able to stand the vocalist enough to give it a 3.5 Unique tho | neekafat
08.10.17 | Sorry Unique, though I will admit at the end of the day I certainly enjoyed your pick
Reallyyyyy couldn't get into Stellarscope | Papa Universe
08.10.17 | I guess I'm just used to hearing that kind of obscure vocal performance on Punk-related albums. | neekafat
08.10.17 | "disrhytmic instrumentation" is one way to say it lol | Conmaniac
08.10.17 | Unique I loved Fever if it's any consultation | Papa Universe
08.10.17 | *consolation
and yes, it is! | Conmaniac
08.10.17 | oops ...! but yeah best song on the album...I'll give it another listen tho because that second half is killer | Tyler.
08.10.17 | Nice | Conmaniac
08.10.17 | ya congrats ty guy | ZombieToyDuck
08.10.17 | teamster is probably curled up in the fetal position somewhere. | Tyler.
08.10.17 | hahaha | Tyler.
08.10.17 | idk why you would rec preoccupations over viet cong tho | neekafat
08.10.17 | Poor teamster... I don't feel that bad tho | Papa Universe
08.10.17 | Cause it's better, duh | Tyler.
08.10.17 | not really | Papa Universe
08.10.17 | Well, it seems so now, doesn't it? | teamster
08.10.17 | No worries - I enjoy the band. Not everyone's brand of vodka. | ZombieToyDuck
08.10.17 | He's alive! You've got an important rec that needs to be made for next round lol | Conmaniac
08.10.17 | RIP teamster ahah | teamster
08.10.17 | Do a post metal competition and I will slay all... | Papa Universe
08.10.17 | You think? | teamster
08.11.17 | Bet. | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | Aight. I'm just challenging anyone, who claims to be an expert in some field. One time I debated a neurosurgeon about how to correctly open up skulls during operation. We both ended up drunk, but I like to believe that I lowered him to my level, thus winning. | teamster
08.11.17 | Lol , UU , awesome sauce!! | Papa Universe
08.11.17 | I'm Czech-Australian, those aren't safe bloods to mix together, I have no moral restraints. | neekafat
09.12.17 | Neeka FINAL SCORES:
Unique - Preoccupations
Originally: 3.4/5 - Now: 3.5/5 - OVERALL: +0.1
Track Ratings: Anxiety: 7, Monotony: 6.5, Zodiac: 7, Memory: 8, Degraded: 8, Sense: 7.5, Forbidden: 7, Stimulation: 7.5, Fever: 7.5 (AVG: 7.33)
Tyler - Jeopardy
Originally: 3.7 - Now: 3.7 - OVERALL: no change
I Can’t Escape Myself: 7.5, Heartland: 7.5, Hour of Need: 8, Words Fail Me: 8, Missles: 7.5, Heyday: 7, Jeopardy: 7, Night Versus Day: 7.5, Resistance: 7.5, Unwritten Law: 8, Desire: 7.5 (AVG: 7.55)
Teamster - March of the Lonely
Originally: 2.7 - Now: 2.7 - OVERALL: no change
Track Ratings: Stay Away from Me: 6.5, Fashionably Late, Again: 5.5, Damn, I Hope You’re Happy: 6.5, Set the World on Fire: 6, Never Fit In: 6.5, Overblown: 5, One Terrible Place: 6, Status Quo: 6, Hypervelocity Stars: 7.5, It Is Too Late: 6.5, Island Universe: 7, All for You: 6.5, Up in Smoke: 6, March of the Lonely: 7 (AVG: 6.32)
DUE TO THE CHANGES OF THESE RATINGS, THE CURRENT SCORES ARE NOW:
Unique: 87.7
Tyler: 82.5
Teamster: 80.7 |
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