rodrigo90: Bands which got worse over time

Drifter 05.31.17	Raditude best Weezer. Then Hurley. Also, my shit taste aside, White and EWBAITE are great albums. I think most people can say that I mean just look at the averages for them on here
RadicalEd 05.31.17	strokes.
Faraudo 05.31.17	JEW's Integrity Blues is probably my favorite record of theirs, so nawwww.
wwf 05.31.17	pretty much all bands tbh
NorwichScene 05.31.17	Blink-182, Incubus, InMe, Killswitch Engage, Muse, Sum41 The Streets
MyNameIsPencil 05.31.17	"Raditude best Weezer." dude what
DoofusWainwright 05.31.17	Alternative list title 'Bands that started off bad and only got worse over time'. Thank you.
worthlessscab 05.31.17	check opeth
SAPoodle 05.31.17	Yeah it happens to most bands in the end, which sucks, but that's life. It's why I can respect a band like Dillinger Escape Plan who are going out on top. And, as my favourite band, I hope Converge do the same. Got a bit of a nasty feeling about their next one coming out later this year...
Brandon 05.31.17	Linkin Park needs to be on this list.
Demon of the Fall 05.31.17	'Alternative list title 'Bands that started off bad and only got worse over time'. Thank you.' Agreed. I'd say Muse with The Resistance (although the decline arguably started with Black Holes, just not quite as severe)... & Biffy Clyro from Puzzle onwards.
RaylanCrowder 05.31.17	Agree on Coldplay, strong disagree on Green Day, Linkin Park and Maroon 5. Never thought Maroon 5 were very good, ATS is my favourite LP album and I thought American Idiot was pretty good too. Even if you agree with me that the trilogy albums is their worst work, American Idiot was a step up from Warning, IMO
Davil667 05.31.17	It would indeed be way more challenging to create a list on bands that didn't get worse over time or got even better...
NorwichScene 05.31.17	Linkin Park has to be on here, it's not debatable. I was going to say Biffy Clyro, but liked a few songs off their latest mainstream effort
RaylanCrowder 05.31.17	"Linkin Park has to be on here, it's not debatable." I'd say it is debatable, maybe not in terms of sales, but in terms of personal preference. One More Light, Minutes to Midnight and Meteora are my least favourite LP albums while I much prefer ATS, HT and The Hunting Party
fullautorpg 05.31.17	Dude, In Flames.
DrGonzo1937 05.31.17	Marilyn Manson? 8 years ago I'd have agreed with you, but he's well and truly back on form again.
onionbubs 05.31.17	god there are so many to choose from but off the top of my head here are some you didn't include bloc party (hymns is horrendous) incubus (8 is horrendous) alkaline trio (while they haven't put out an album that id call bad, they have gotten gradually worse over time evident by the last two being shaky aside from some standout tracks) rise against (tim can't sing at all anymore) death cab for cutie (everything that i've heard post narrow stairs is mediocre at best) fall out boy (debatable whether they were good to begin with it they've undoubtably gotten much much worse the more they progressed) the cure (bloodflowers is cool but anything else post wish really isn't worth listening to)
DigitalSchism 05.31.17	I disagree with Manson being here. The Pale Emperor was a pretty strong comeback album if you ask me.
Deathconscious 05.31.17	Almost all of these were shitty to begin with. Also, almost all bands get worse the longer they go, so. List is isnt really saying anything.
Papa Universe 05.31.17	Half of these were Shite all along
theBoneyKing 05.31.17	Linkin Park have always been abysmal
CzechyGuy 05.31.17	But beside OML anything Linkin Park has ever released is better than their first two records?
LepreCon 05.31.17	Some of these bands were never good to begin with
Flugmorph 05.31.17	so basically almost every band ever
Evenoss 05.31.17	There are bands that got better over time... until they decided to make a comeback album... (Refused, At the drive-in...)
DrGonzo1937 05.31.17	Was half expecting 'tallica to be on here too.
wham49 05.31.17	almost every band gets worse over time, they lose the hunger or make too much money, or become rock stars there are a few that get better which can be debated I guess, but some I think are, Radiohead, Neil Young, RHCP, Beatles
onionbubs 05.31.17	sex pistols never got worse
wham49 05.31.17	there is no way the SP could of
onionbubs 05.31.17	that was kind of the point
JWT155 05.31.17	Manson's last record was a step in the right direction, if anything it shows that his output is more of an amalgamation of his supporting players on each record then his personal brain child at this point.
guitarded_chuck 05.31.17	Drifter 05.31.17 [Report this Post] Raditude best WeezerDrifter 05.31.17 [Report this Post] Raditude best WeezerDrifter 05.31.17 [Report this Post] Raditude best Weezer
DoofusWainwright 05.31.17	Aiwaz - Tool, Neurosis and ISIS all got better over their early career...then slowly got slightly worse. Usual drill for most bands. No one thinks their most recent albums are their best.
JWT155 05.31.17	When you've made a career out of being angsty and spitting venom with heavy guitar licks and harsh vocals, it's hard to continue that trend as an older band. Older you get you more or less become content/make amends with the things that anger you, financial success makes it tough to write about being pissed off, and physically it's hard for a musician/vocalist to reach the limits they could have reached earlier. Also, people just in general mellow out with age, and only a select few bands can mellow out and still create something on par with their earlier career, especially in the Metal/Rock scene where careers are made pushing the envelope and taking chances.
Demon of the Fall 05.31.17	Suggestions for bands that got better then? Much harder. Now, obviously every single release doesn't need to show an increase in quality, just generally. And where it seems to be the most common consensus. Tough. Death - these guys stick out as an obvious one The Chariot - last two releases before they split were a definite upgrade
JWT155 05.31.17	Norma Jean has gotten better as well, their first few records had some great singles, then they went through an awkward phase of experimenting but losing focus, their past two records have been their best hands down.
smaugman 05.31.17	dream theater maybe
Idolatrous 05.31.17	Unwound is probably the best example of a band that did the reverse effect and every record got better.
onionbubs 05.31.17	nah fake train is 2nd best unwound
Idolatrous 05.31.17	@onionbubs nah. Fake train does rule though.
onionbubs 05.31.17	I can't think of any band with over four albums who got progressively better, and even then not many come to mind
DoofusWainwright 05.31.17	There's a lot of bands that took a load of albums to really hit their stride...but not many that kept on improving beyond that
Demon of the Fall 05.31.17	Melt-Banana is another one.
onionbubs 05.31.17	if the magic whip didn't come out blur would be a great example although no one else seems to agree that think tank is their peak
sempiturtle 05.31.17	For Coldplay I actually like their Viva/Mylo stuff more than the first three albums. Their last two are dire though.
Sowing 05.31.17	I think most bands have a shelf life before losing whatever spark made them interesting at first.
DoofusWainwright 05.31.17	I prefer the more recent albums by Destroyer if you count them as a traditional band As a rule bands that periodically reinvent themselves seem to have a better chance of avoiding late career lull - 'FLOTUS' by Lambchop is one of my favourites by the band, the first two albums are immense but then there are two or three mid period albums equally good too.
FearThyEvil 05.31.17	Most bands do tend to lose themselves over time but at the same time, I can say their are also plenty that get better or stay consistent throughout too.
DoofusWainwright 05.31.17	My Lambchop album ratings go: 5 - 5 - 3.5 - 4.5 - 4.5 - 5 - 3.5 - 4.5 - 4.5 - 4.5 - 5 I see them as a good example of it not all having to go downhill after album 3, 4 or 5
EphemeralEternity 05.31.17	where's pantera
JWT155 05.31.17	"I can't think of any band with over four albums who got progressively better, and even then not many come to mind" The National
Dylan620 05.31.17	@JWT I'd say The National are pretty debatable in that regard, I can understand any ranking of their albums from Sad Songs onward
onionbubs 05.31.17	my personal national suggests otherwise but i guess i could see that
JWT155 05.31.17	The National < Sad Songs < Alligator =< Boxer I think it's an easy conclusion, even if you prefer Alligator I think it's undeniable they were a better more fine tuned band with Boxer. I agree, Alligator onwards is a toss up for which being a favorite at any given moment, but from Alligator to Boxer I think it's indisputable they were a better band.
onionbubs 05.31.17	yeah I'm inclined to agree with that
Drifter 05.31.17	Raditude is best Weezer. Just like Encore is best Eminem
DungeonBoy 05.31.17	In Flames easily takes the cake for me. Very few bands have fallen from such a towering height in inspiration and quality.
BootCamp 05.31.17	didnt in flames collab with pendulum for a song
BootCamp 05.31.17	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZGJrYPMkNI
wham49 05.31.17	"I started that about 5 posts earlier, with some thoughts" "there are a few that get better which can be debated I guess, but some I think are, Radiohead, Neil Young, RHCP, Beatles"
Demon of the Fall 05.31.17	Radiohead is a weird answer, they're more like up, down, up, down etc. No downward trend but no upward one either.
Demon of the Fall 05.31.17	Talk Talk? As in a band that actually got better.
Flugmorph 05.31.17	"Isis never got worse. Neurosis never got worse. Tool never got worse." lol all those got kinda worse, especially neurosis
Koris 05.31.17	Wait, Papa Roach was good in the first place?
rodrigo90 06.01.17	About in flames: I haven't listened the band so I don't know them that much And Linkin park I didn't put it because I listened to the albums post meteora and while they are not at the same level they are not THAT TRAGICALLY BAD
rodrigo90 06.01.17	About the guy who commented on pantera: Dude, you can rot in hell.
onionbubs 06.01.17	I guess thursday consistently improved until their dissolution even though my ranking isn't necessarily chronological
ryu 06.03.17	Mars Volta, Pearl Jam, Live, and Mudvayne come to mind. Also gotta disagree with Isis being on this list. Wavering Radiant, whilst no Panopticon or Oceanic was a solid addition to an impressive catalogue. The gradient of their decline is nowhere near as bad as a band like In Flames or Muse.
teamster 06.03.17	Pains me to say this cuss they are one of my favorite bands ever .. but .. Voivod.
Titan 06.03.17	a better list would've been 'bands that haven't gotten worse over time'
rodrigo90 06.03.17	I steal reddit threads because....I don't use it.
Aenima97 06.03.17	"Raditude best Weezer" "Encore best Eminem" Ban Drifter lol
GhandhiLion 06.03.17	like 90% of bands
Repsaj 08.02.17	Underoath got better with timme
AngryLittleAlchemist 08.02.17	Radiohead
Drifter 08.02.17	"Ban Drifter lol" Lmaoooo
Avagantamos 08.02.17	Fugazi got better with every album they released, imo
neekafat 08.02.17	(it's debatable) damn straight it is
wham49 08.02.17	van halen
dctarga 08.02.17	5 and 6 so hard, so hard. Hot Fuzz is such a good album, Sam's Town good as well, but I swear that debut has some awesome songs, not even just the singles. Also, Make Believe is a fine pop rock album. When it came out it was a flaming pile of garbage based on the anticipation, but looking back, its just a regular ol' inoffensive rock album. Besides "Beverly Hills"...that song makes my ears bleed.
KjSwantko 08.02.17	Yep these are true; realistically probably 95% of bands fit the bill here though. Also the most recent Sabbath record was pretty respectable, all things considered.
ONEPUNCHMAN 08.03.17	Definitely not 4
Drifter 08.03.17	I don't understand the hate for Beverly hills. Can someone help me please?
Satellite 08.03.17	black flag pixies alkaline trio (even tho i enjoy their later shit) guns n roses misfits rage against the machine third eye blind
Satellite 08.03.17	"I don't understand the hate for Beverly hills. Can someone help me please?" doubtful
dctarga 08.03.17	@Drifter Honestly, it's just the "gimme-gimme" and imo bad sounding/lazy end of guitar part in the chours. Kind of ruins the song for me. Also just time and place for me. Weezer was my #1 at the time and I was anticipating that album so much and I specifically remember when and where I first heard "Beverely Hills" on the radio and it just, idk, 14 yr old me died a little bit lol.
Tyler. 08.03.17	at first i was wondering why this got 92 comments but then i saw rodrigo made it
Drifter 08.03.17	Oh. I dont even remember how the song goes I just think it gets too much hate than it should. Not saying its a top tier Weezer song by any means but still
Maco097 08.03.17	Testament is the first band that crosses my mind.
Satellite 08.03.17	beverly hills was so fucking overplayed when it came out. i was in hs and it was inescapable. and all of a sudden all the dumb bros were weezer fans. fuck that. it was the star wars prequels of music basically.
wwf 08.03.17	I'm kinda confused by Breaking Benjamin on this list, Dear Agony is like the same fuckin album as Phobia