cloakanddagger: Nu metal that isn't total shite

Papa Universe 05.30.17	Disagreed
verdant 05.30.17	the new ocean grove album has some nu metal influence and is also good
Mort. 05.30.17	no it isnt
verdant 05.30.17	it's pretty inconsistent i guess but opinions hey
Dewinged 05.30.17	I would include Earthtone 9 in this list.
SteakByrnes 05.30.17	Ocean Grove is abysmal
0GuyMan0 05.30.17	I still say that when people think "nu-metal" they are thinking of POD / Linkin Park / Limp Bizkit / Korn and the like. And MOST of that stuff is pretty not good. But your list has Pulse Ultra (fucking about time someone other than me listed it), Boy Hits Car, Deftones, Nonpoint (the best one, and the least nu-metallish), Sevendust, Mudvayne and Deftones. Most of which are beyond what nu-metal really is. If I could spark a movement to call those bands something else, I absolutely would, because they get shit on for a label that doesn't even apply to them. Listen to Nookie and then go listen to Mudvayne's "Prod" and tell me that is the same fucking genre.
0GuyMan0 05.30.17	So addendum to my last response: Either those bands are a different genre or the ratio of good to bad bands in nu is about the same as it was / is in metalcore.
cloakanddagger 05.30.17	Earthtone9 isn't really nu metal. Although I guess nu metal is a little like grunge in that case, where a lot of the bands go above and beyond the label and the name has more to do with the timeframe as opposed to the musical characteristics. Although having said that, one thing all nu metal bands definitely have in common is the use of syncopation, similarly to how grunge bands all have a fairly muddy guitar tone.
Dewinged 05.30.17	Actually 19 is probably the best nu-metal album of all time.
Dewinged 05.30.17	Yeah E9 were a bit too prog for nu-metal? I don't know, they were around that time, same as Ultraspank, Spineshank, American Head Charge, all those...
0GuyMan0 05.30.17	I can't agree with that even a little bit... Also this list needs Blindside. Everyone forgets Blindside.
ScuroFantasma 05.30.17	"Listen to Nookie and then go listen to Mudvayne's "Prod" and tell me that is the same fucking genre." I mean listen to Nookie and compare it to Blind or Heretic Anthem or Down with the Sickness. Other than all the bottom of the barrel shit that came after the bands on this list, nu-metal bands have never really sounded similar to me anyway. The genre is a pretty big catch-all for a lot of bands that would otherwise fall somewhere in between alternative, grunge, hip-hop, and heavy metal and share some similarities.
cloakanddagger 05.30.17	Basically backing up what I said in my previous comment, nu metal bands are pretty diverse, the main thing characterising them as "nu metal" being the syncopated riffs.
ScuroFantasma 05.30.17	Yeah, that and the other hip-hop elements
0GuyMan0 05.30.17	I agree completely. "Alt Metal" is what it really should have been. Rap-metal could have had its own subgenre. I'm nitpicking, but its because I contend that there were actually GREAT albums released in that time period, and they are criminally ignored because of timing. Its a shame. By the way, except for stupid lyrics I contend that Nookie is a great song.
ScuroFantasma 05.30.17	Anyway great list, this is prety much all of them. I'd add Slipknot - Vol.3, Sepultura - Roots, and Hemet - Meantime (a bit tenuous).
ScuroFantasma 05.30.17	Nookie is fun as hell. And yeah agreed, lots of great albums have been slapped with the nu-metal tag, but that's more of a problem with people's perception of the genre rather than mislabelling imo. Just because it has a bad reputation, that shouldn't exclude good bands from the tag. Nu-metal does not = bad alt metal or something.
cloakanddagger 05.30.17	I haven't jammed Nookie in years, should probably revisit it. I wouldn't put Meantime on a nu metal list, it came before Korn and I'm pretty sure they hate being labelled nu metal anyway.
0GuyMan0 05.30.17	Agree with that too. Its like when people put Rage Against the Machine in nu-metal lists....wtfareyoudoing?!?! Rage inadvertently laid the groundwork at most. Nu-metal begins with Korn. No question. I have a nu-metal list as well you should look at, exactly this subject matter. You have many of the best, but 30 Seconds to Mars' debut is another one that I think you could add.
Thalassic 05.30.17	1, 5, 9, 12 and 22 all rule
0GuyMan0 05.30.17	oh and Apex Theory. If you haven't listened to Topsy Turvy, do it immediately.
ScuroFantasma 05.30.17	"So addendum to my last response: Either those bands are a different genre or the ratio of good to bad bands in nu is about the same as it was / is in metalcore." Pretty much yeah, though I think the situation is much, much worse in modern metalcore. "I wouldn't put Meantime on a nu metal list, it came before Korn and I'm pretty sure they hate being labelled nu metal anyway." That's fair, the link is very weak, but they usually appear on these kinds of lists often and they're quite good, so worth a mention.
0GuyMan0 05.30.17	Modern metalcore good is basically August Burns Red and.......MAAAAYBBBEEE Miss May I? I don't like them much but they appear to be competent songwriters.
Artuma 05.30.17	we didn't need this list with the same albums for the thousandth time p.s. list is still incorrect
G0atC0re 05.30.17	No 36 Crazyfists, fail.
KManoc1 05.30.17	9 is overrated.
DrGonzo1937 05.30.17	List needs more One Minute Silence.
Gmork89 05.30.17	What is it with Nu Metal bands and over-saturated cheesy text crap album art. Snot cover remains a classic though.
JeetJeet 05.30.17	4 is my shit
starboystargirl 05.30.17	Needs more Slipknot
onionbubs 05.30.17	needs more one more light
starboystargirl 05.30.17	lawl
Dedes 05.30.17	1, 5, 9 and 22 are actually damn good
Thalassic 05.30.17	1, 5, 9 and 22 are probably the best nu metal albums overall
teamster 05.30.17	Taproot is the best band on the list ...
0GuyMan0 05.31.17	36CF for sure. Snow-Capped Romance rules.
cb123 05.31.17	8 is still my favourite from this genre, still jam is fairly regularly, beast of an album
0GuyMan0 05.31.17	you should both listen to 4 and 15.
Muppelope 05.31.17	4 is fantastic yeah. Need to check 15 I guess.
0GuyMan0 05.31.17	Supremely catchy vocals and riffs. You can also get on youtube and watch the singer jump off of one of those Ozzfest 2nd Stage risers into the crowd.
betray 05.31.17	LD 50 is the best record on this list
ignorethefashion 05.31.17	Good list. I was into 1, 5, 7, 9, 12, 17, 19, 21, 22, 23 quite a bit back in the day.
ChrimzonCanine 03.08.22	Been jamming to 16 a lot lately. Such a fantastic skateboarding record
Brabiz 03.08.22	All of it
JeremiahBullfrog 03.08.22	Where Iowa
Pikazilla 03.08.22	not here because it fucking sucks
deathofasalesman 03.08.22	has anyone listened to the Gazette?
Pikazilla 03.08.22	stacked rubbish is great