DustyTill: Why isn't there "modern" symphonic metal?

Papa Universe 05.27.17	Then what kinds of music do you think Symphonic Metal should incorporate if not the ones from the times, where the only kind of music in existence was symphonic?
DustyTill 05.27.17	4 to 6 listed above
Snake. 05.27.17	because everybody behind the genre has to meet a pseudo-intellectualism quota to inflate their self-esteem
Sinternet 05.27.17	^ironic comment
BookoftheFallen 05.27.17	^Even more ironic comment
Shadowmire 05.28.17	because most if not all of this stuff is fruity and devoid of substance any resemblance to classical music is usually superficial in the first place
tommygun 05.28.17	because it is played out and boring and sucks
Shadowmire 05.28.17	well beyond sanctorum rules at least
worthlessscab 05.28.17	I got you famfam https://ehnahremetal.bandcamp.com/album/douve
hesperus 05.28.17	writing decent symphonic music requires that you have at least some understanding of music theory and music history, and the baroque, classical, and romantic periods are both more familiar and easier to grasp from a theory perspective. i'd hazard a guess that the kinds of people who devote enough time to studying music to know what makes Shostakovich Shostakovich, tend not to be all that interested in metal by that point. still, i imagine people like that must be out there. would be cool to see a Stravinsky-inspired metal band or something
Artuma 05.28.17	"the metal community and many orchestras around the world have supported therion you filthy cunt" watch out guys, verm's got references
Azertherion 05.28.17	hesperus it's probably because modern/comtemporary music (mostly the atonal/experimental stuff) doesn't fit tonal music at all, since the rules are simply completly different. Metal is an extremly codified genre, so the crossover would make little sense.
Artuma 05.28.17	"It baffle me a lot when you say yo dislike therion" i didn't say that because i've never heard therion but yeah frankly i have no desire to do so
DustyTill 05.28.17	"Metal is an extremly codified genre, so the crossover would make little sense" Thay have been avant-garde metal for decades, why this wouldn't work?
Azertherion 05.28.17	Avant-garde is the extreme opposite of academism, and XXth century's modern music is the epithome of academical music (as bizarre as it sounds). While the question whether it would work or not remains unsolvable, this doesn't change the fact that modern music itself is very rarely "symphonic". If such crossover exists someday, it certainly won't be "symphonic".