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Papa Universe 05.21.17	Ah dammit, I'm out of touch with reality again. Gotta go watch the original series first, then I'll join the discussion.
rabidfish 05.21.17	eh, I haven't watched TP in like 4 years... gotta keep this a fresh watch. Maybe after it's done I'll revisit the old seasons.
ScuroFantasma 05.21.17	Actually just bought the DVD box set the other day, know next to nothing about the show other than it's highly recommended and I was looking for a show to watch.
Gnodab 05.21.17	Im scared to watch, it can never be as good as the original
tom79 05.21.17	I've never been so hyped for a new season of tv. And Lynch is directing every episode..oh man. No idea what to expect.
owen 05.21.17	watch out for spoilers, the first two episodes were up in Italy for a few hours The episodes have been taken offline, but the pics with spoilers are still out there
ArsMoriendi 05.21.17	Jennifer Jason Leigh is on the cast list
EphemeralEternity 05.21.17	fucking game of thrones around the corner too
heck 05.21.17	so fucking hyped.
rabidfish 05.21.17	it's probably not at all what you expected... And that's all you can ever expect.
owen 05.21.17	it will be darker and scarier than FWWM
adr 05.21.17	no Audrey :( really hyped tho
heck 05.21.17	"no Audrey :(" what? she's been confirmed to return for months and has appeared in some of the trailers/promotional clips
adr 05.21.17	didn't saw her in the imdb cast and i haven't watched most of the trailers cuz i want to go in with as little info as possible
protokute 05.21.17	finished rewatching the series today and watched the deleted scenes from fire walk with me. i'm hyped. but i'm worried with the characters being all old, it will be strange for sure, let's see how Lynch handles it.
wwf 05.21.17	I've been rewatching a bit too to prepare; I'm hoping that the new series will basically start fresh though and really reintroduce us to these characters in a natural and organic way because if Lynch leans too hard on the audience already knowing the world even I might get lost very quickly and I've watched it all
KILL 05.21.17	cant even wait adr is a poser cant even fuckin WAIT
Deathconscious 05.21.17	Whats it playing on?
Judio! 05.21.17	Oh man
Judio! 05.21.17	"Whats it playing on?" Showtime
Deathconscious 05.21.17	Fuck
rabidfish 05.21.17	a reliable web that'll have this up in a reasonable time at a reasonable quality? I'll buy it later
TalonsOfFire 05.21.17	Sherilyn Fenn who played Audrey is involved in some way. I'm disappointed that the sheriff isn't in it, he's one of the most important main characters but the actor is retired apparently.
Deathconscious 05.21.17	I always found the sheriff annoying anyways, im not too broken up about that.
tom79 05.21.17	Robert Forster is more or less taking Sherrif Truman's role. I think I read somewhere he's playing his brother. Always liked him as an actor.
TalonsOfFire 05.22.17	Fun fact: Robert Forster and the old sheriff were in the movie The Descendents in 2011, the last appearance of the original sheriff actor.
hal1ax 05.22.17	woah... cool. i still haven't finished season 2. does it ever get good?? : /
TalonsOfFire 05.22.17	The season 2 finale is famously one of the best episodes of the series and redeems that painful second half of season 2 where it's pretty much nonsense. Don't expect to feel satisfied though haha
Rowan5215 05.22.17	to take it a bit further @hal, episode 29 is one of the greatest episodes ever broadcast on TV. I'd skip to like episode 27 just so you get the run up into a true classic
hal1ax 05.22.17	oh damn, ok. i'm on episode 10 i think.
Rowan5215 05.22.17	stick through till episode 16, cos that's where you get the big reveal, and also episode 14 has the best scene of the entire show. after 16 you can pretty comfortably skip ahead
TalonsOfFire 05.22.17	I wouldn't skip any full episodes, but a few character's storylines get totally pointless like everything with the motorcycle character you can skip once he leaves Twin Peaks, and the crazy blinds lady thinking she's a high school cheerleader.
BigPleb 05.22.17	Not seen the new episode yet but man, that new opening title sequence is so goooooooooood.
ArsMoriendi 05.22.17	You're not a real Twin Peaks fans if you don't like Nadine James is terrible though
ArsMoriendi 05.22.17	New series is incredibly promising. Great first 2 episodes :( poor hot guy though
Winesburgohio 05.22.17	Lynch still has it holy shit, i was hoping for something more in the vein of FWWM (excruciatingly good) and voila. oh man. ahh. i feel like i'm a euphoric dream, dumb!!!!
ArsMoriendi 05.22.17	Some parts reminded me of Inland Empire honestly Which is a good thing
TalonsOfFire 05.22.17	Another The Descendants connection: Matthew Lillard is in the new Twin Peaks series and was a main character in The Descendants. He was also Shaggy in the early 2000s Scooby-Doo movies
rabidfish 05.22.17	is that fucking shaggy? looooool
heck 05.22.17	so this is basically 18 hours of Fire Walk with Me, then? don't get me wrong, I like David Lynch, but much like that movie this just felt too much like his other stuff and not enough like Twin Peaks to me. kind of disappointed so far.
Rowan5215 05.22.17	crying loudly at the Log Lady scenes
rabidfish 05.22.17	sound design is genius, as always with Lynch... Dude is a masterful soundscape artist.
kris. 05.22.17	first like 15 minutes of ep 3 is batshit crazy
TedSchmosby 05.22.17	as much as i'm enjoying the stuff with coop and the stuck in twin peaks, i'm already super invested in the lilliard subplot
rabidfish 05.22.17	This feels more like Mulholland Dr. and inland empire than it feels TP... And I'm more than ok with that
Judio! 05.22.17	crying loudly at the Log Lady scenes [2]
wwf 05.22.17	I sort of miss the soap opera tone a bit and there's so many long stretches of silence but it definitely feels like Lynch knows what he's doing
ArsMoriendi 05.22.17	The first half of episode 3 was honestly stranger than even Inland Empire Whole new level of Lynch
wwf 05.22.17	definitely my favorite part so far, ya
protokute 05.22.17	guys, this is strange. just finished watching episode 1
kris. 05.22.17	lol it gets stranger
heck 05.22.17	alright episodes 3 and 4 were a definite improvement. the scene with Wally was incredible.
wwf 05.22.17	Lmao I wasnt sure how I felt about the Wally scene. I liked it fine knowing Lynch's sense of humor but I feel like if a different writer/director made that character Id be like 'fuck offfffff'
Trebor. 05.22.17	New season so far is dark as fuck and feels more like Lost Highway Am I the only one that thinks a lot of the CGI looks like shit?
TalonsOfFire 05.22.17	I'm gonna pace myself with episodes 3 and 4 cause by the time 5 comes out I will have forgotten everything. The first two episodes were fantastic, never knew Shaggy had those acting chops lol
kris. 05.22.17	ya trebs the CGI is trash but i think it kinda fits in a weird way.
kris. 05.22.17	and matthew lillard can act dude, check out slc punk
wwf 05.22.17	oh shit that's who that is? lmao anyway there's definitely an awesome sense of tension and there's some scenes that made me feel like my throat is closing up but I think what made the first season so terrifying is that nearly every horrifying moment first kind of lures you in by something genuinely beautiful and sweet and then it's undercut by something fucking horrifying that you could never have expected so the sort of dreary tone this new series has shackles it a bit imoimo, but it's still really great
wwf 05.22.17	I'm way too excited to see Sky Ferreira act tho
wwf 05.22.17	which... I guess is probably a recipe for disappointment, but I can't help the fact that I'm extremely attracted to her
Trebor. 05.22.17	Getting killed while fucking is like horror tropes 101, I wonder if that was intentionally so?
wwf 05.22.17	I can't imagine it wasn't, I think it was played completely straight though it worked for me because the characters are likeable and the setup around it is strange and unsettling
kris. 05.22.17	the creature in the box was terrifying. so so so unsettling.
TalonsOfFire 05.22.17	Yeah when it formed I was so transfixed, thinking wtf is gonna happen. Probably the best horror kill I've seen onscreen in a long time
DoofusWainwright 05.22.17	That Chronatics tune really sounds like a Yumi Zouma song The first two episodes felt a little too much based outside the surrounds of Twin Peaks really, but there were some great scenes in there. The build up for the 'box' scene was classic. Evil Cooper grew on me more and more, Hawk is still the man, people making excuses for James - he's had an 'accident'. Oh yeah?
kris. 05.22.17	james being cool is one of the most factually inaccurate statements ever uttered lol
DoofusWainwright 05.22.17	Casting auditions for Lynch must go 'give me the strangest look you got'. You still look human, sorry. Next! Ah, now your face looks half bird, half grasshopper...you're great!
TalonsOfFire 05.22.17	I wish Donna were there, I guess she and James didn't end up together but who knows what he's doing
protokute 05.22.17	"Casting auditions for Lynch must go 'give me the strangest look you got'. You still look human, sorry. Next! " lol, it's like all the characters are half human half something else i don't frickin know watched episode 2 now, and third season seems to be twin peaks on local mushrooms
Deathconscious 05.22.17	James is a giant...well, i just got banned for using that word so id rather not risk it, but its the only appropriate word to describe him.
rabidfish 05.23.17	Lynch always casts funny-looking people, yea... that's his superpower.
protokute 05.23.17	guys, i'm trying hard to vibe with this, but it's being difficult
BigPleb 05.23.17	So is it worth tuning into or what guys?
heck 05.23.17	"I wish Donna were there, I guess she and James didn't end up together but who knows what he's doing" I read somewhere that they'll probably reveal she died in the motorcycle accident and that's why James doesn't talk now.
rabidfish 05.23.17	if you don't vibe with Lynch your dreams must be fucking boring, dude
protokute 05.23.17	maybe they are, but i do vibe with some of the weirdest lynch works like mulholland drive, but on here, things feel a little bit too forced. not like i would know how to continue with the series after the season 2 finale but...
Rowan5215 05.23.17	"I wish Donna were there, I guess she and James didn't end up together but who knows what he's doing" worst comment I've read in my life tbh
Winesburgohio 05.23.17	of course the cgi looks like shit it's David Lynch, who adores anachronism and vsh quality to further muddy the waters and add to the disquiet god this is so fucking good and it hasn't lost its humour, which was my main complaint with the (under-rated) inland empire idk
Rowan5215 05.23.17	Inland Empire was three hours of solid, undiluted wank, TP 2017 is subtle and beautiful and hilarious
kris. 05.23.17	damn, i thought moira kelly was coming back. they're just writing donna out? that sucks.
rabidfish 05.23.17	who gives a SHIT about donna... Worst character on the series. Inland Empire works better for me when I forget it's a movie and watch it as if it was some kind of short stories' compilation with some slight story equivalencies.
TalonsOfFire 05.23.17	I need to watch David Lynch's films, I've only seen Eraserhead and love it and Twin Peaks, but not completely sure where to go from there. I have Mulholland Drive on DVD and is his highest rated, so I might start with that one.
protokute 05.23.17	try blue velvet too
Rowan5215 05.23.17	Donna is maybe, possibly the most dislikable character ever on TV. she was ok when she was Moira Kelly but oh my god show Donna makes me want to die
TalonsOfFire 05.23.17	Yeah I need to see Blue Velvet. I haven't watched TP in like 2 or 3 years but don't remember Donna being that annoying, maybe not the most memorable character but she and James really held together the emotion of Laura Palmer's passing and impact it had on the citizens, since both were so close to her. Bobby was too but he was kind of a joke. I should check out FWWM. Any essential info it had that would help with understanding the new series? I'm guessing not but just thought I'd ask.
rabidfish 05.23.17	I'm guessing so far that you only need to watch the 'black lodge' eps and have some general knowledge of the characters to get this, actually.
TalonsOfFire 05.23.17	Elephant Man or Eraserhead is usually considered his best so I'm excited to watch those 5 ranked above it.
tempest-- 05.24.17	i'm about 12 eps deep into season two, come up with the definitive ranking of characters 1. pete also 1. lucy 2. everyone else except james last. james. he's the worst.
Rowan5215 05.24.17	3. so low there's no accurate tier for how awful she is - donna
wwf 05.24.17	I like Donna >_>
rabidfish 05.24.17	James' face and expressions remind me so much of Zoolander that I just can't hate him as much as I hate Donna. Still, fuck James.
wwf 05.24.17	shit that's spot on
Rowan5215 05.24.17	just a reminder Donna is the character who causes Jacoby to have a heart attack by insisting that NO ONE LOVED LAURA LIKE WE LOVED LAURA SO WE ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN INVESTIGATE THIS, then subsequently drove a shut-in to suicide in order to get a diary THAT SHE DIDN'T EVEN GET that only got to the police because it was at the house of the guy she drove to commit suicide f u c k d o n n a
tempest-- 05.24.17	donna is boring ya she has nice hair tho
Corney 05.24.17	Anyone see the viewership for these episodes. I think Showtime assumed that the viewership would be higher even though everything would lead me to think the exact opposite. Hopefully Lynch wraps up the story nicely because I doubt this will be coming back for another season.
Corney 05.24.17	This show would make no sense for those who haven't seen the original. It is not a show for those who find surreal film making weird (which is most people). I watched the first 2 episodes and it was good but the best parts are the surreal moments.
wwf 05.24.17	honestly I think it's fine on its own. there's a good amount of handholding plot-wise, its not just straight up surrealism based on the framework of a 25 year old show
wwf 05.24.17	so far at least
wwf 05.24.17	but yeah, I had the same worry that no one would watch it. it's hard to say whether or not showtime will consider it a success and we probably will never know, but it's not going to get cancelled again. the 18 episodes we're going to get are their own self-contained story
wwf 05.24.17	apparently it only drew in half a million viewers but gave showtime record sign-ups, so yeah, it's complicated
tom79 05.24.17	Loved the first 2 episodes, but I've always been really into the Black Lodge mythology. It helps if you've seen Fire Walk with Me in addition to the show. It's awesome Showtime is letting Lynch just do his thing.
DoofusWainwright 05.24.17	Episode 3 doesn't have a single what I'd call 'normal' scene in it lol - craziest 45 minutes of television I've ever watched
Lord(e)Po)))ts 05.24.17	4 episodes have been awesome as fuck. the first 3 have been some of the most consistently dark of the entire show, and feel like a fusion between twin peaks and lost highway, moholland drive, and inland empire. then season 4 was practically a parody of the very show itself, was absolutely hilarious and probably was one of the top 5 episodes of the show ever.
Rowan5215 05.24.17	my shadow always with me. sometimes in front, sometimes behind. sometimes to the left, sometimes to the right. except on cloudy days. and at night.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 05.24.17	also just wanted to confirm that donna is the fucking worst yes
Rowan5215 05.24.17	the only solid stuff in the James/Donna scenes was the solid amount of pure excrement streaming from their dialogue and facial acting agreed on a positive note that scene when Bobby saw the picture of Laura Palmer was one of the most moving things I've seen on TV in some years
Marehelm 05.24.17	Not really sure what to think yet. Sure seems different (more Lynch-ian) than previously.
Marehelm 05.24.17	I guess time will tell if I think that's a good thing
TalonsOfFire 05.24.17	Yeah Donna did some shitty things and her romance with James was cheesy, like pretty much all of the romances, but it was appropriate for high school age characters, like what else is it supposed to be. Their connection to Laura and how much it affected them was the emotional part, and they do dumb shit partially because they were so affected, and also because they're very flawed characters and not even adults yet. Their acting is another story, and up to personal opinion. I'm excited to see episode 3 if it's all weirdness.
protokute 05.24.17	episode 4 is the most close to a normal tv series would be lol
DoofusWainwright 05.24.17	This series is playing like a love letter to all Lynch's past work - wonder if it'll be his last major project. It's most like original Twin Peaks (doh) mixed with Inland Empire, Eraserhead (massively so ep 3) and Lost Highway. I even see nods to Straight Story, Wild at Heart and Dune in there too.
KILL 05.24.17	"on a positive note that scene when Bobby saw the picture of Laura Palmer was one of the most moving things I've seen on TV in some years" fuckin laura's theme man
Judio! 05.24.17	*points to self* MISTER JACKPOT
KILL 05.24.17	tempted to watch the 4 eps again
wwf 05.24.17	I absolutely love what they've done with Bobby's character, feels like exactly what would have happened to him. I hope we see more of him
Corney 05.24.17	WTF is Michael Cera doing here and WTF is up with that scene!
Egarran 05.24.17	It was all great, although my patience was tested a few times. When Jacoby painted shovels, for example. Otherwise I love how hardcore it is. Lynch gives no fucks.
Judio! 05.24.17	@Corney right?! That scene was all kinds of wtf
Corney 05.24.17	I would say so far the show is weaker than the original. It is still great, however, I think the tone and comedic moments of the show fall flat compared to the original. Maybe once all the plot lines are fully explained I will change my opinion but we will see.
Egarran 05.24.17	Indeed, this is not trying to win the rabble over. It's straight up surreal deliciousness for us elitists.
wwf 05.24.17	I'm hoping Jacoby's plotline actually does have huge ramifications, otherwise the airtime he got (especially in the fuckin pilot, IIRC he's the first person from Twin Peaks we see) is pretty pointless so far
Egarran 05.24.17	I have absolutely no idea what it could be.
wwf 05.24.17	Yeah me either. On a more serious note, I honestly can't take the villain seriously at all
DoofusWainwright 05.24.17	Just watched ep 4 - least favourite so far but still good. Monosyllabic coops and 'beyond a cameo' deaf Lynch in 50% of the scenes did test my endurance slightly
Egarran 05.24.17	-Call for help -Sure, Imma get you a bigger cup
Lord(e)Po)))ts 05.24.17	"on a positive note that scene when Bobby saw the picture of Laura Palmer was one of the most moving things I've seen on TV in some years" lmao really? i was full on lol'ing at that. in a good way but still. "Monosyllabic coops and 'beyond a cameo' deaf Lynch in 50% of the scenes did test my endurance slightly" nah dude that shit was fucking hilarious also Cera's cameo made me scream laugh
rabidfish 05.25.17	cera's delivery on the shadow stuff will be on the top-10 funniest moments on TV this year, that shit is GOLD.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 05.25.17	Also the entire scene with the casino manager Jesus Christ that was so good
Rowan5215 05.25.17	the whole episode skewed really close to parody I agree, but that Bobby scene just felt so genuine and earned. after 27 years and especially after the FWWM it just feels like we totally deserved that simple moment of seeing how death can still be affecting even after such a long time. plus Laura's Theme ofc. idk it got to me
rabidfish 05.25.17	i thought it was funny, too... bobby will never look like he does anything seriously.
wwf 05.25.17	yeah Lynch and real Cooper were both big highlights of the show so far though I'd love to see Cooper acting semi-normally soon
Judio! 05.27.17	Can't get enough of Cooper in episode 4. I'm in fucking stitches
Egarran 05.27.17	Any theories about the existence of Doug? Has he been around for 25 years or did evil make some kind of temporal anomaly that included a past?
Rowan5215 05.28.17	Lynch has always been more than a cameo, come on. He's in like a third of the original series and he's one of the funniest actors in it too. still is THERE THEY ARE ALBERT. FACES OF STONE
Rowan5215 05.28.17	anyone who cheats on Naomi Watts deserves the electric chair tbh
Egarran 05.28.17	He's just a meat puppet, cut him some slack.
protokute 05.29.17	when will the new episodes air?
heck 05.29.17	episode 5 airs June 4.
tempest-- 05.31.17	im in love with lucy
protokute 05.31.17	i always have been in love with her
tempest-- 05.31.17	omg she is the best im really loving this new season so far tbh, so unlike anything ive seen before. Coop's breakfast scene in episode 4 is fucking gold.
wwf 05.31.17	this is spot-on what I think is happening with the new season http://www.vulture.com/2017/05/where-is-twin-peaks-is-the-new-who-killed-laura-palmer.html
protokute 05.31.17	sooooo spot on!
Egarran 06.01.17	Sorry to be a negative elitist, but that article read like an essay from an 8. grader who wants to impress her friends.
Rowan5215 06.05.17	jade give two actual forward movement in the plot
Judio! 06.05.17	dig yourself out of the shit $29.99
tempest-- 06.05.17	could not take jim belushi seriously in his role lol
Winesburgohio 06.05.17	i love how you love meeeeeeee
owen 06.05.17	so what did everyone here think of the band of Lynch' son?
wwf 06.05.17	^that was Lynch's sons band? kinda hard to stick out this episode when the hip-hop song in the beginning and 'I Love How You Love Me' are both big standouts of the whole series so far speaking of which, that drugged-out scene in the car is the best thing this series has done so far
KILL 06.05.17	loved this episode, slow as fuck in the best way
owen 06.05.17	it's yrev very good to see you old friend
BigPleb 06.06.17	So engrossing, gotta love how Lynch creates tension. Series is genuinely terrifying whilst still remaining quite humorous.
Winesburgohio 06.06.17	i love that all the stuff about the shovels built up to what amounts to a throwaway joke anyone else feel weirdly joyous when the guy enjoyed his green tea latte
BigPleb 06.06.17	Just starting episode 3 now, man those first 2 episodes were sweet. Does anyone else adore the opening title song/video? So beautiful.
BigPleb 06.06.17	Holy Christ that 3rd episode was O_o 4th was excellent too, HEELLLOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Does anyone else think Lynch is limited as an actor? I suppose he pulls the 'dream like' tone and mannerisms off well when he performs but idk.
BigPleb 06.06.17	Gah I'm so excited for number 5! It's out already right?
protokute 06.06.17	yea
BigPleb 06.06.17	Things have gotten more streamlined since episode 3, not a bad thing tbh. God I love this show.
wwf 06.06.17	'i love that all the stuff about the shovels built up to what amounts to a throwaway joke' God I hope there's going to be more to it than that, because so far this show's writing has been fantastic, and that was literally the first scene in this show set in this dimension (you know, the scene that normally is supposed to get some sort of story and intrigue going) and we spent probably a solid five minutes just watching all that shovel shit (spread across two different scenes, no less)
BigPleb 06.06.17	I found it tense man lol
jagride 06.06.17	what winesburg and kill said "so what did everyone here think of the band of Lynch' son?" fit the overall vibe of the show/what was happening with the skeevy dude and the smoking babies better than the other music in the bang bang bar scenes. this ep had my fave end credit sequence too
jagride 06.06.17	seeing dirty beaches guy on sax was cool as well
tempest-- 06.06.17	"the scene that normally is supposed to get some sort of story and intrigue going" lynch does what tf he wants man
BigPleb 06.06.17	Lynch could put a still shot of a wall in frame for 2 hours and I'd find it riveting.
kris. 06.06.17	HELLOOOOOOoooOOOOoooo
BigPleb 06.06.17	Sorry man, Doug really wanted your coffee so I gave it to him...
BigPleb 06.06.17	I CANT WAIT ANOTHER WEEK FOR AN EPISODE
Egarran 06.07.17	Trouble - Snake Eyes: https://youtu.be/1E2hkZBVya4 I like it. I have liked all the music so far.
kris. 06.07.17	i thought they were doing two episodes a week for the entire run. :( lynch u tease
wwf 06.07.17	It physically hurts that it'll be September before we finally have all the episodes
kris. 06.07.17	at the same time tho, we get an hour of pure lynchian weirdness every week until september that's cool af
Thalassic 06.09.17	Late to the party, but just watched the first two episodes... and Lynch is Lynchin' hard here
tom79 06.09.17	So that young guy smoking at the bar in ep 5, who gave the cop his pack of smokes full of cash..his characters name is Richard Horne....interesting
rabidfish 06.09.17	I feel they tried to make a parody of Rust Cohle from True Detective with this new character... Which is cool, cuz it's muthafuckin' Lynch and that TD show draws must if not all inspiration from Twin Peaks.
Rowan5215 06.12.17	D I A N E
someguest 06.12.17	I'm watching the original series for the first time; I'm about two-thirds through it. I find myself laughing a lot, and thinking it's just damn cool. The obsession of black coffee is a real treat too.
Rowan5215 06.12.17	you're in for at least two of the best episodes ever put on TV, enjoy my dude
Judio! 06.12.17	Newest episode was probably my least favorite of the season so far tbh
wwf 06.12.17	fuck yeah sharon van etten, killin it I'd say the pilot's still my least favorite of the season so far, loved the new episode even though the 5th is still my favorite
tempest-- 06.12.17	yeah not a lot happens, just introducing some new stuff but man that Sharon song was gorgeous
Rowan5215 06.12.17	really 5 was my least favourite episode so far, very little of interest except that brief Frank Silva mirror scene imo so far imo it's the two part opener (5/5) > ep 4 (5/5) > ep 6 (4.5) > ep 3 (4.5) >>> ep 5 (3.5)
Rowan5215 06.12.17	lloyd how'd you feel about season 2? assuming you finished it and didn't just skip ahead to the new eps lmao
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.12.17	I felt that way about episode 5 on first watch but not second watch. Episode is loaded with goodness.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.12.17	I've made sure to watch each episode 3 times so far lmao. Gotta watch the new ep 2 more times but love them all so far
tempest-- 06.12.17	first half was great obv, second half was batshit insane. I didn't know Lynch (and Frost?) essentially left the show. The plots deviated so far from anything even close to making sense I honestly found it mostly fun to watch.
wwf 06.12.17	Episode 5 was actually the first one that I rewatched, all the rest of them I think I had only watched once. Idk, I think part of it is that it took me a while to acclimate to the series
Rowan5215 06.12.17	I've seen each ep twice with the opening two-parter three times now. agreed there's lot of stuff to miss but 5 still feels like a wheel-spinning episode to me. 6 could honestly have come right after 4 and I wouldn't really have noticed anything. having said that the worst ep is still dope so I'm not complaining lol ye apart from James/Evelyn being the absolute nadir of all television I unironically enjoy most of season 2. that run of episode from 14 to 16 where they catch the killer is still one of the tensest and most unnerving things I've ever watched on TV. and the finale is in its own league but that goes without saying
Rowan5215 06.12.17	but anyway FUCKING D I A N E IS CONFIRMED PEOPLE
wwf 06.12.17	I'm going to watch the original series with a friend before the current season is over, hopefully. Considering just watching to episode 16 and then skipping to the finale, I don't think he'd miss too much iirc
Rowan5215 06.12.17	I always say skip to like episode 25/26, because the run up to the finale makes the end result so much more enjoyable and once Frost comes back those last few eps are actually pretty damn enjoyable. like tell me you don't love Earle kidnapping a druggo metalhead to put him in a large chess piece just to fuck with Coop?? but personal preference ofc
wwf 06.12.17	yeah we'll see how it goes and how much time we have, I wouldn't be surprised if he's into it enough to just kinda slog through some of the less great subplots it'd be a shame to miss out on this new series though, it's absolutely delicious
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.12.17	Season 2 was fantastic up until Leland murders Maddy. Then without the hands of Lynch and Frost the show flounders for a while as it searches for the right direction for the mid section of the series, which is largely buoyed by Harley Peyton and Robert Engles remaining as writers, and they pull the show back into shape for the return of Frost and Lynch for the indisputably awesome ending episodes of the series
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.12.17	"but 5 still feels like a wheel-spinning episode to me." Not for me. They introduce a bunch of crucial new characters and situations in Twin Peaks. in LA a couple really important developments in Dougies state and massive plot points for the 'Jeffries' plot, which seems to be pretty central to the series. Finding the ring in what is now almost assuredly Brigg's body... Booper Doppelcooper Mr. Strawberry scene in SD is all huge... honestly the more i think about it the more I disagree.
Rowan5215 06.12.17	p much. they clearly left Engels and Peyton with the vague direction of "uhh BOB and the Black Lodge and Earle ok have fun" and then the writers kinda flounder their way towards that direction until Frost comes back and whips em into shape and then Lynch comes back to make the finale a perfect ep of television
Rowan5215 06.12.17	oh yeah the Mr Strawberry scene is fantastic, altho I'm not sure it will have a lot of bearing on future developments but we'll see. a lot of great stuff in there undoubtedly but very little blew me away
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.12.17	yeah amen if Engels and Peyton weren't there I doubt it would have even have been salvageable by the end when Lynch and Frost came back
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.12.17	"oh yeah the Mr Strawberry scene is fantastic, altho I'm not sure it will have a lot of bearing on future developments but we'll see. a lot of great stuff in there undoubtedly but very little blew me away" word. I thought it had lots of really memorable stuff. plus i loved Dougie's scenes. episode 6 has had my least favorite Dougie scenes so far but that may change on second watch. and I loved the scene with the crack moms son a lot too
wwf 06.12.17	5 has the best scene of the whole show so far tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1MyEg7sTRs
Rowan5215 06.12.17	wwf I was convinced you were gonna link Jacoby's rant and honestly you wouldn't be wrong that shit is fucking golden (heh) THE FUCKS ARE AT IT AGAIN
tempest-- 06.12.17	green tea latte is up there hahah
Egarran 06.12.17	Phew, another gruesome murder. This time with a funny punchline. Lynch is one cold mf. I like psychic Dougie, but I also want the old Cooper back. I cannot guess how that will work out.
tom79 06.12.17	Really cool seeing Harry Dean Stanton back, what a legend. "I've been smoking for 75 years, every fucking day".
rabidfish 06.12.17	that small person/mob assassin is hilarious, scary and kinda cute all at the same time, fuck you Lynch... Sharon is a bae, too. yay!
tom79 06.12.17	jade give two rides
BigPleb 06.13.17	Anyone got a fave episode across all series? Mines probably S2 EP7. Genuinely the most unsettling end to an episode ever, so perfect. Bobs face in the mirror *shudders*, utterly terrifying.
tempest-- 06.13.17	I wanna know what dougie was like before, that coop can be so brain dead but no one is thinking anything is out of the ordinary. Or maybe it's just one of those suspension of disbelief times
BigPleb 06.13.17	All I know is Naomi Watts is still so hot man.
tempest-- 06.13.17	Haha when she was telling those goons off 😍
BigPleb 06.13.17	Dude as soon as I saw her onscreen I fanboyed hard then was just like 'wow, she's still smokin'
BigPleb 06.13.17	I just found the whole reveal of Leland perfect dude. The way Lynch switches from terrifying to heartbreaking during the last few moments of Episode 7 is just masterful.
BigPleb 06.13.17	Huh? Its done perfectly. Most of the series is an example of masterful character work, whenever Cooper was in trouble I'd genuinely want to help the dude out. Could never decide how I felt about his and Audrey's love interest tho. She's clever and very helpful to Cooper but has an underlying scheming and conniving nature.
wwf 06.13.17	and she's also like really obviously 17 lmao but I always loved that dynamic, it's really clever and not the kind of shit you see on tv too often
Rowan5215 06.13.17	the thing is in Season 1 it's a fantastic relationship when you look at it as a protege/mentor sort of thing. two incredibly smart, idiosyncratic, clever characters challenging each other as to how many clues they can uncover and how quickly they can solve this case. ofc them getting together would be fucked because she's a teenager but that underlying dynamic of they clearly love and respect each other and are willing to do nothing about it is what makes it so unique. ofc then in season 2 it all gets ruined thanks to FUCKING D O N N A and we get Audrey neutered and regressing into your generic wide-eyed virgin waifu for JJW instead of the genuinely engaging and unique character she started as, something I'm praying S3 will make right
wwf 06.13.17	I'm not sure I want to see a less-sexy Audrey, tbh I mean, that sounds shallow, and Lynch clearly knows what he's doing character-wise so far, but it's like the new Star Wars movies; part of the appeal of Luke Skywalker's and Princess Leia's characters are how youthful and driven and energetic they are, so seeing them moving past middle-age just never quite will feel right despite generally good writing We'll see how they treat her character, though; the show's been more interesting to me when it involves newer characters
BigPleb 06.13.17	Lynch playing Cooper's supervisor in series 2 makes me howl, so funny.
Rowan5215 06.13.17	agreed wwf it's been fascinating how they haven't tried to hide or in anyway conceal how old the actors now, especially in the case of the Log Lady I've never seen a TV show embrace old age quite so openly and honestly. plus if we're being real Sherilyn Fenn still looks fucking gorgeous but ye it won't be quite the same
wwf 06.13.17	Oo that's a good point. I didn't realize until after the first four episodes aired that the actors behind the Log Lady and Albert have both passed since, they have done a really good job of letting the age of the actors give the show a really natural bittersweet feeling without even directly addressing it
Egarran 06.13.17	They should have smoked more cigarettes. Harry Dean Stanton is adorable.
tempest-- 06.19.17	new ep was fantastic, i love how slowly things are building and piecing all together
wwf 06.19.17	I very nearly nodded off literally right before Ike jumped Coop
Rowan5215 06.19.17	S Q U E E Z E H I S H A N D O F F
Egarran 06.19.17	Loved it, what a crowd pleaser. I'm afraid this just means the next ep will be some next level gruesome surrealism.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.19.17	just came here to say what rowan just said
Egarran 06.20.17	Mindblowing.
KILL 06.20.17	fuck that was so GD that sweeping scene lol
tempest-- 06.20.17	used the music from FWWM right? that shot just hung on forever
hamid95 06.20.17	It was Green Onions Great ep. Laura Dern is a fantastic Diane
Corney 06.20.17	I hope this show comes together nicely. Currently it is dragging and most of the time is uninteresting. I mean the fact that no one seems to question brain dead Cooper is incredibly infuriating. Does no one seem to care that he is absolutely brain dead and isn't even remotely acting like Dougie.
tempest-- 06.20.17	of course, you are correct hamid. for some reason I thought that was the track playing in the Pink Room. Corney I disagree that it is uninteresting. I love the slow burn. How still it can be. It will make the payoff so much more satisfying. If there is one that is haha. Although it is strange about Coop/Dougie. I think it would be funny if everyone around him is so self-centred that they don't notice him being a complete goofball. You have to put your head in a place that can accept that the people in this show don't behave like humans normally would.
Corney 06.20.17	Yeah, that is more of a gripe for maybe the last three episodes. I think the first several were really good though.
Egarran 06.20.17	I've read enough discussion about Dougie to suspend my disbelief. Just for starters, he occasionally has these episodes and people are blinded by lodge magic/middle class anxiety. Can't wait for him to get normal though. It has the potential to be extremely satisfying.
hamid95 06.20.17	There are pay-offs happening left and right, though. Especially in this episode, with Diane revealed and confronting Mr. C, Ike "the Spike" failing his hit on Coop and Hawk finding the missing diary pages. They're not huge, but the plot is very much progressing. It's just that Lynch likes to simultaneously throw in another bunch of bizarre set-ups while everything chugs along.
wwf 06.25.17	Hey so where did they get the footage of Major Briggs saying 'Blue Rose'
protokute 06.25.17	Guys, wasn`t Jeaques Reanult the fat guy on the bar at the weeping scene?
kris. 06.26.17	what the fuck
fromtheinside 06.26.17	OMG HI KRIS
kris. 06.26.17	hi
fromtheinside 06.26.17	I was listening to The Clincher while playing Madden 2004 and thought of you the other day ;)
heck 06.26.17	just watched the new episode. look, I love David Lynch, but I didn't really need 58 minutes of him masturbating on camera.
tom79 06.26.17	Went full Lynch with this one. Amazing.
heck 06.26.17	even if you take that as a David Lynch experimental short film and not an episode of Twin Peaks, it's a bit much. and I say that as a massive David Lynch fangirl.
Judio! 06.26.17	Goddamn that whole black and white sequence was fucking SCARY
Winesburgohio 06.26.17	should have just given the man a light, as a smoker i understand his frustration!!! honestly though the whole Penderecki sequence gave me a panic attack but I couldn't take my eyes of the screen, and I didn't dare turn my volume down. beauty at its most terrifying and sublime; don't think i've ever seen anything like that before, outside of maybe Brakhage
Rowan5215 06.26.17	that was top 5 episodes of this show overall, maybe top 3. the convenience store scene was genuinely one of the most horrifying things I've seen
wwf 06.26.17	It didn't quite get to me much (Laura going nuts in episode 2 is still the most horrifying thing in this season so far to me) but I liked this episode a fair bit. It might have been a bit much though But still it was pretty tense. I even watched past the credits to see if anything would happen to the girl
wwf 06.26.17	Also I watched the 'A Look At Episode 8' thing they posted on youtube before watching the episode and that was a bit of a mistake, shouldn't do that again It gives away most of the trajectory of the episode in order as well as most of the most stunning shots and that was more important in this episode than most
Rowan5215 06.26.17	ye my eyes were glued to the screen for a good two minutes after the credits have stopped rolling. Lynch at his finest THIS IS THE WATER THIS IS THE WELL
wwf 06.26.17	ok, to actually try to take a stab at what we just witnessed, I'm guessing the fear of the atomic bomb is what created the 'Mother' and therefore Bob and also what opened the convenience store and caused the homeless people to escape. seeing that this happened, the Giant created Laura as a response judging from the opening of Episode 3, though, that place where the Giant was was taken over by the Mother in the time since obviously I could be very wrong
someguest 06.26.17	I see Lynch is still a NIN fan.
fromtheinside 06.26.17	u aren't?
Rowan5215 06.26.17	as he should be, She's Gone Away fucking bangs @wwf I think Mother and the Black Lodge already existed and the destruction/fear of the atomic bomb just created a rift in our world that meant they could get through. the woodsmen probably also already existed as kind of sub-creatures of the Lodge who aren't allowed above the convenience store where MIKE/BOB and so on live, but when the rift was created they spilled out into our world to help BOB-moth find an unconscious host
someguest 06.26.17	I like the Reznor/Atticus stuff more now.
wwf 06.26.17	@rowan makes sense to me. It's almost frustrating knowing that most of the stuff that we see on this show might never be known by any of the characters; even Cooper might not know most of it ever. It's hard not to be used to protagonists gradually learning their way through the plot, and we know so, so, so much more than anyone in this show does
wwf 06.26.17	it's funny to read most publications' articles on the series so far, knowing that the critical response on an episode-to-episode basis pretty much is completely pointless to go further, as a whole, this show is almost completely critic-proof, it's so unashamedly itself and it probably won't yet be clear how this season will rank in the public's perception of Lynch for decades
wwf 06.26.17	Alright last post on this, I swear, but this show's done a wonderful job of having visual through-lines that sort of tie what might seem like unrelated scenes into a cohesive episodic structure and give each episode somewhat of a theme. Take for example the Bob sphere, which appears twice in the episode, and the shot of long stretches of road that's lit up by car headlights, which also shows up twice in the episode
Rowan5215 06.26.17	lynch fucking loves shooting highways from the inside of the windshield. it's pretty much the first and last 10 minutes or so of Lost Highway (appropriately) and I believe there's a bit of it in Inland Empire too. not to mention the extended scene in the Twin Peaks pilot with Harry and Coop driving after Donna and James on the motorcycle. it's one of his most enduring images
tempest-- 06.26.17	i dont think i blinked that entire episode
Egarran 06.26.17	I get the ...logic of a nuke opening a portal and introducing Bob and Laura and some homeless demon workers from the surreal lodge dimension to Earth - apparently they are already connected in cultural styles - but I didn't understand what happened when evil coop died. Were the demons ritually bringing Bob's sphere back? Where will it go? Will Dougie react to this? Is real coop now back in evil coop's body? Will this lead to some hilarious mistaken identities? Also of note was that this show does CGI fucking awesome when it wants to.
hamid95 06.26.17	HOLY FUCKING SHIT
owen 06.26.17	best episode so far
kris. 06.26.17	that was one of the most unnerving hours of television i've ever watched.
Winesburgohio 06.27.17	*extremely Clipse voice* i'm having nightmares bc of that fucking episode, it was just distilled disquiet crescendoing into panic needless to say i've watched it four times and it is genuinely the best episode of television i've seen
hamid95 06.27.17	We're witnessing tv history
Egarran 06.27.17	Baywatch was also tv history
polyrhythm 06.27.17	10/10 episode
wwf 07.10.17	ngl, not a whole lot happened this episode but I think it tied more things together more than most any other episode
Rowan5215 07.10.17	ye, the Hawk/Bobby/Truman stuff was cool but worst ep so far
wwf 07.10.17	agreed, it was still good though obviously and it definitely feels like its heading somewhere
tempest-- 07.10.17	everything is coming together so slowly, and even new subplots are emerging almost half way through the season, I'm wondering if there will even be a resolution to all the elements going on.
Judio! 07.11.17	"I'm wondering if there will even be a resolution to all the elements going on" highly doubt it tbh
Egarran 07.11.17	Nah, not the best, but it had some good laughs. -I'm sorry ma'am, you can't smoke here. -It's a fucking morgue!
ArsMoriendi 07.11.17	It was fine lol, I was more interested in the information he gave to care
Egarran 07.11.17	http://thesearchforthezone.com/
ArsMoriendi 07.11.17	YES!!!! :D
DoofusWainwright 07.11.17	I am not your foot
Taxt 07.12.17	Loving this so far, it's so great to see something new from Lynch. Inland Empire came out a looong time ago.
polyrhythm 07.13.17	9 was one of the weaker episodes, but also the most classic Twin Peaks. Funny that
wwf 07.13.17	yeah pretty good summary
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.13.17	Agreed it was the most classic twin peaks but I thought it was on part with the rest.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.13.17	Lol wondering if a Daviday lynch project will have a crystal clear resolution
wwf 07.13.17	tbf, he's more asking if many of the plot lines are going to have even general payoffs this is Twin Peaks not Mulholland Drive haha but so far all the scripts have been fucking great so I have confidence that they know what they're doing with it and I don't really need or expect any sort of usual resolution
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.14.17	Yeah but the original idea behind twin peaks ( that lynch didn't get to fulfill because of network pressure) contradicts that. That's why he hated season 2.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.14.17	Now he has creative control and he never even wanted to solve Lauras death
tempest-- 07.14.17	lol yeah you're right pots, I'm just so used to standard tv shows that I'm expecting conclusions. I gotta sit back and let em do their thing. Shame there's only 10 eps left I WANT MORE
wwf 07.14.17	actually 9 :/
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.14.17	its not enough :[
hamid95 07.14.17	Sky Ferreira's got one mad rash, though
Egarran 07.14.17	"never even wanted to solve Lauras death" It makes sense now that we know she is an agent from another dimension.
hamid95 07.14.17	Really fully-loaded episode, considering I've seen few online even mention Hudson Mohawke making an appearance at the bang bang bar. (Or Ferreira^ flipping burgers, for that matter)
wwf 07.14.17	should've heard me (slightly too) excitedly say 'that's Sky Ferreira' to my friend then
Rowan5215 07.17.17	def one of the strongest eps so far but also one of the hardest to watch, shit was nasty so much love for log lady
wwf 07.17.17	hello johnny how are you today hello johnny how are you today hello johnny how are you today
tempest-- 07.17.17	"do you find me attractive?" *takes another bite of cake* HAHAHA
Rowan5215 07.17.17	Kyle has been great all season but his facial expressions in this episode had me fucking rolling. easily the best Dougie stuff so far
tempest-- 07.17.17	he's in surprisingly great shape too ;-]
protokute 07.17.17	i could watch lucy and andy discussing about which color of the sofa they will choose to buy for a hour.
rabidfish 07.17.17	Wow richard is such a nice, old-fashioned scumbag lol... Nice to see someone being a big piece of shit just for the beautiful hell of it.
wwf 07.18.17	hey be nice to him, his daddy's off raping bitches in south dakota
hamid95 07.18.17	that scene with the horne family was just all kinds of fucked up
polyrhythm 07.18.17	that was simultaneously the most depressing and the most hilarious episode of this show
Egarran 07.18.17	The last 2 episodes rate lowest for me. Next one has to get really weird.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.18.17	Last two Eps were gold tho and spent more time in twin peaks than any of the others. I dig it.
Egarran 07.18.17	No doubt, it's fantastic. But the Horne thing did nothing for me.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.18.17	I loved it
rabidfish 07.18.17	i don't care much for the casino sub-plot... all the scenes with Lucy and the bros. were boring af. she's retarded, hahaha funneh :T ...
Egarran 07.18.17	She is going to destroy Chad.
polyrhythm 07.18.17	Lucy and Andy scenes are kinda lame, casino subplot seems to be tied to good and bad Coop, so I'm hardly going to dismiss it as irrelevant to the story. The scenes there last episode were super entertaining
protokute 07.18.17	ahhhh love andy and lucy, they are so cute hahahahaja really tho i love them
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.18.17	Casino subplot rules
rabidfish 07.19.17	I'm more interested on what's going on with the blond chick, her abusive relationship, and how does it tie up with the rest of the plot... Are we seeing the cycle starting again? can Coop (or someone else) stop it this time?
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.19.17	Ya they rule too
polyrhythm 07.19.17	That scene were she was drugged up and mimicking The Bends artwork was a top Peaks moment
polyrhythm 07.19.17	glad you dig this season pots, I think it might end up being the best of the three
Egarran 07.19.17	CANDIE!! It's kind of the same reaction people have to Dougie. They behave like they're brain damaged but it doesn't seem very odd to anyone.
gryndstone 07.19.17	I've been back and forth on this whole season, but this episode was the most darkly comedic one yet - I loved it. I saw a somewhat convincing theory that the song at the end of this episode represents the 'silencio' moment in Mulholland Drive, so I can't wait to see what happens next
polyrhythm 07.19.17	definitely. all will be revealed, (glass) box and charred (woods)man and all
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.19.17	I will say the performance at the end of this last episode was the worst of the season. The song itself was fine but the melodine on her voice was excruciating
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.19.17	Also twin peaks season 3 Bae is deffs Tamara
TheAmazingCumMan 07.19.17	this season sucks a fat chode. its a shame because this was one of my favorite shows even with just 2 seasons.
rabidfish 07.19.17	lol if you liked s2 then I don't see how you don't like this... oh, maybe you just have shite taste, nvm.
wwf 07.19.17	'I saw a somewhat convincing theory that the song at the end of this episode represents the 'silencio' moment in Mulholland Drive, so I can't wait to see what happens next' that might be accurate actually, they come around the same point in the plot and they both are fairly extended relatively, and judging from the placement of the NIN song in episode 8, the songs are actually a little bit a part of the storytelling I doubt the change in tone will be that drastic though, lmao
polyrhythm 07.20.17	"I will say the performance at the end of this last episode was the worst of the season" That goes to Au Revoir Simone's second song imo, that was literally just white girls whispering over synths, not even a melody. A far cry from Julee Cruise
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.20.17	Yeah that wasn't very good either. I will say I loved the nine inch nails performance tho.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.20.17	*the the nine inch nails performance
ArsMoriendi 07.20.17	Season 2 ruled, this season rules the musical performances have been a little forgettable though, good thing I don't watch the show for that reason
ArsMoriendi 07.20.17	Richard Horne's character needs to be violently murdered Tammy rules, Diane rules... that young cop is a shit head and I hope Lucy gets him fired
hamid95 07.20.17	fucking chad
rabidfish 07.20.17	'the musical performances have been a little forgettable though, good thing I don't watch the show for that reason' lol who does? Sharon's performance was the only one I didn't skip NIN i do not care about at all...
wwf 07.20.17	its not why I watch the show or anything but I think its part of the charm
rabidfish 07.20.17	eh, i could live without 'em... some folks are trying to take each one and connect the lyrics of the songs to create some kind of greek choir-esque narrative but dude who gives a fuck.
ArsMoriendi 07.20.17	I love NIN, but their performance was identical to the studio track lol For all I know they just lip synced the original track
TalonsOfFire 07.20.17	I don't skip any of the music performances upon first seeing the episodes because 1) they're always good music, and 2) there've been cutaways to characters doing stuff during the songs, like the brief James update in one of the first episodes.
wwf 07.20.17	this is a bit awkward but the dude who plays richard horne is so fuckin hot
rabidfish 07.20.17	he looks like a fucking alien... but all my gay buddies tell me i do not know how to appreciate the male beauty, so i dunno. He's fucking gross to me.
wwf 07.20.17	a really hot alien, absolutely
hamid95 07.20.17	[2]
polyrhythm 07.21.17	Tammy is hot but her character seems to exist for Cole / Lynch's old man horniness Reminds me of when he wrote a scene where he gets to make out with Shelley for no reason NIN track sounded just like the studio one yeah, but it was perfect for that episode
polyrhythm 07.21.17	also all the nuke, black lodge, glass box stuff this season is blowing my mind, literally the stuff I've dreamt of seeing for like the last five years
tempest-- 07.24.17	wtf the lady honking the car horn and then the kid vomiting my brain cannot handle but its so fucking enthralling
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.24.17	"Reminds me of when he wrote a scene where he gets to make out with Shelley for no reason" lmao anyone in their right mind would have done the same new episode was off the heezy
Rowan5215 07.24.17	the kid vomiting in the car was just... holy fuck.. I don't even fucking know might have been my favourite episode so far but I've said that about like every episode, this season might end up topping the first at this rate apparently the red-haired chick Steven was sleeping with is Donna's sister from the OG series.... bruh
hamid95 07.24.17	That ending was so beautiful. And I loved everything happening in Twin Peaks, as well.
Winesburgohio 07.24.17	incredible ep lads, also for snacks i literally bought myself coffee and donuts so imagine my joy when Lynch and co. had the same culinary idea
Winesburgohio 07.24.17	also reading Tammy's "writing style" in SH offers insight into why she is how she she is, the nervous fidgets et al.
Rowan5215 07.24.17	tammy in the show seems to have absolutely nothing with secret history tammy, they've robbed her of all personality
Egarran 07.24.17	Amazing episode. Clearly Dougie has some kind of overlapping alternative reality thing going on.
wwf 07.24.17	I wanted Candie to get some sort of reaction out of Dougie so badly
polyrhythm 07.24.17	so good
rabidfish 07.24.17	woah shelley hasn't changed at all lol it's sad that characters like becky are all over in the real world smh...
rabidfish 07.24.17	also, every kid should have gym set, for sure
owen 07.24.17	did anyone notice Diane sees everything mirrored? Compare the scenes of Albert/gordon and Diane seeing the woodsman doppelganger confirmed?
Marehelm 07.24.17	Didnt notice that, Owen. Will have to rewatch. Does anyone else find Tammy suspicious?
protokute 07.24.17	"Does anyone else find Tammy suspicious?" people are so strange on this shit, i don't even know, but yes, she looks sorta suspicious.
Taxt 07.25.17	DIRTY BEARDED MEN IN A ROOM
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.25.17	Tammy is like the least suspicious
polyrhythm 07.25.17	yeah wtf
Egarran 07.25.17	That makes her very suspicious!
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.25.17	Lmao good point
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.25.17	Diane hell suspicious tho
protokute 07.25.17	hahahahhahaha guys
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.25.17	Guys u know who is suspicious? Dat Richard Horne guy
Egarran 07.25.17	I rarely saw a person more ripe for possession.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.26.17	Becky lookin pretty cray cray riggity rights about now too
Marehelm 07.26.17	Exactly. Tammy seems to "just be there" without any real contribution to the show so far. That's suspicious.
ArsMoriendi 07.26.17	"Reminds me of when he wrote a scene where he gets to make out with Shelley for no reason" As if that wasn't one of the funniest scenes in the entire show though lol
tempest-- 07.26.17	wonder if they'll reunite this season haha
owen 07.26.17	candie x dougie is the best couple
protokute 07.26.17	andy & lucy forever
kris. 07.26.17	lucy is the secret best character
wwf 07.26.17	'Becky lookin pretty cray cray riggity rights about now too' still would wreck her like Diana
polyrhythm 07.26.17	who tf is Diana
rabidfish 07.26.17	Albert x morgue lady best couple I'd smash Becky so hard
polyrhythm 07.26.17	who wouldn't
Rowan5215 07.26.17	Steven, apparently
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.26.17	Albert x morgue lady is amazing ya also anyone else think candy might be another person created to be a vessel like dougie?
kris. 07.26.17	"also anyone else think candy might be another person created to be a vessel like dougie?" could be but i think she's show a lot more uhh cognitive function than dougie has.
wwf 07.26.17	Hey dougie's getting there
kris. 07.26.17	i hope he never does dougie is life
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.27.17	@Kris yeah so I'm thinking she's been like that for longer than dougie, and if so that means it for casts a long recovery for coop...
tom79 07.28.17	Anyone else catch the girl in the stairwell with Steven last episode? It was Gersten Hayward, Donna's younger sister. The one playing piano during the end of S2E8. Kinda sad..
polyrhythm 07.28.17	everyone under 50 in that town is a fucking mess
L4titudes 07.28.17	List title made me think of the end of Endtroducing... "It is happening again... It is happening again". That bit scares the shit out of me for some reason.
tom79 07.28.17	This is the show where DJ Shadow got that sample from
L4titudes 07.28.17	:o Well then
L4titudes 07.28.17	Just watched the clip on youtube... well i'll be a monkeys transgendered uncle
tom79 07.28.17	Yeah it's a pretty fuckin cool show. Season 3 just started airing in May...26 years after season 2.
L4titudes 07.28.17	Yeah I've heard all abouts and actually checked the very first episode of S1 not too long ago. I suppose I should continue.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.31.17	Boys who got shot in the head... was it who it looked like :/
kris. 07.31.17	it was the warden of the prison that doppelcoop was in. i thought it was Bobby at first lol
wwf 07.31.17	Ahhh I remember that conversation about the warden now. Goddamnit it's been like a few weeks since we've seen Evil Coop. Man I love this show and I hang on like every word that's said but damn some of the scenes of the last few episodes have been a little repetitive. Like the Jacoby rant in this episode, I could not for the life of me discern any sort of new information out of it and half of it was footage we've seen before, like why And all the focus on Dougie recuperating just for him to kind of be sidelined for several of the last episodes is kind of killing me (though, to be fair, he was the highlight of episode 11 for me) Plus the Audrey scene was obviously immensely frustrating, just like it's supposed to be. Anyway, it keeps seeming like they've really set the stage for a lot of elements to come together in a fantastic way and every week it seems like they're holding off for a little more setup, which is cool by me. The writing still seems so careful and we're actually getting a lot more answers than I expected and a lot of plot threads are being explored more than I expected Anyway, one question, actually: the coordinates that Evil Coop wants so desperately apparently just go to Twin Peaks... so how did that work? Did Evil Coop just forget where Twin Peaks was?
mifzal 07.31.17	all I need is A DAMN GOOD COFFEE
Winesburgohio 07.31.17	audrey's probably in the lodge, r-r-right guys??? still gorgeous i really loved that bike / that my father gave to me
Rowan5215 07.31.17	man I have a fair amount of patience but that was just a bad episode, like damn, especially compared to how well the last two weeks have dealt with all their themes that was just not good excited for the final stretch tho
Marehelm 07.31.17	Tammy is still suspicious. There should be something major coming up with her. Regarding Audrey, some hypothesise that she is in some kind of mental hospital, that Charlie is her therapist and just playing along. Im not quite sure, but their marriage and the contract-thing seemed weird. Regarding Jacoby, I'm frustrated as well. It would be an awesome pay off if the woodsmen arrived and did the same thing as in the small town in 1956.
Marehelm 07.31.17	And I have a suspicion that Albert edited the photo with the coordinates (his talk with Gordon about milk instead of coffee (switching something) before showing the photo)
tempest-- 07.31.17	that music when Hawk went to Sarah's house tho 😭
kris. 07.31.17	the fucks are at it again!!
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.01.17	I realized it was the warden soon after but at first it looked like Benjamin Horne, which didn't make any sense Cuz the kid came out and call him daddy but I was baked and scured
ArsMoriendi 08.01.17	The Audrey part seemed off, but in a good way... can't wait to find out more Also where the hell is Big Ed?
Egarran 08.01.17	Thankfully I liked it a lot. Everything worked fine, even Cole's oversexual friend.
owen 08.01.17	I don't know if episode 9 and 12 were just plain bad or feel that way because of the quality of their predecessing episode
kris. 08.01.17	i wish Jack Nance was still around. Pete Martell was such a great character : (
protokute 08.01.17	yea Kris. i love pete too
polyrhythm 08.01.17	Some great scenes, some pointless. This show has had a number of 6/10 episodes in its run, some in season 2 rating even lower than that. Tbh this episode felt disappointing because of how high the standard has been this season, including a stellar last episode. The "not as good as last episode therefore seemed meh" rule applied to GoT and Rick & Morty this week too
protokute 08.01.17	I don't see this episode being so different from the other ones on this season in terms of quality.
wwf 08.01.17	'The "not as good as last episode therefore seemed meh" rule applied to GoT and Rick & Morty this week too' for real, yea. we're getting spoiled by all the good television
tempest-- 08.01.17	this weeks GoT was def better than last weeks what
tempest-- 08.01.17	Pete [2] i love him most of anyone else in the show, tied with Lucy
kris. 08.01.17	there was a fish! in the percolator!! :D
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.01.17	I loved last ep I loved all eps
polyrhythm 08.01.17	Jacobi is gonna have his skull crushed and his radio show hijacked by woodsmen, calling it now
kris. 08.01.17	oh yeah, that's for sure happening. also Russ Tamblyn is fucking 82 years old. that man looks no older than 60 tops.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.02.17	Almost everyone on the show has aged super well. Lol James tho
polyrhythm 08.02.17	Poor guy got skin cancer from acne cream or some shit. The most James thing to ever happen
Rowan5215 08.02.17	tbh James still looks better than he did in the original two series tho. Kyle MacLachlan and Madchen are almost definitely immortal god damn
Anthracks 08.02.17	last ep had so many special scenes
kris. 08.02.17	Madchen and Sherilynn still look fine as hell tbh
Rowan5215 08.02.17	yeah shame Audrey's scene was a bottom 5 twin peaks scene overall but she has aged well Madchen is a straight goddess
tempest-- 08.02.17	Norma looks almost exactly the same, maybe just added some wrinkles haha. Tbh I didn't even recognise Jerry when he first came on screen.
wwf 08.02.17	yeah my friend recognized Jerry right away and I was like, 'noooooo way that's him'. that's mostly the beard's fault Norma has aged much better than Shelly imo. 'yeah shame Audrey's scene was a bottom 5 twin peaks scene overall but she has aged well' bottom 5 is a little harsh, it's obviously pretty much tailor-made to be frustrating
Rowan5215 08.02.17	tailor-made to be absolute garbage maybe, but it was fittingly still an absolute garbage scene
kris. 08.02.17	guys jerry's scene with his foot was fucking hilarious
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.02.17	Audreys scene was the stuff of legends it was so funny
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.02.17	Foot scene was also amazing and just popping by to express how jot Tammy is all the time
kris. 08.02.17	no lies detected. cant wait for sunday. also i read they're gonna air it an hour earlier starting this week which rules so i can watch this then GoT both live
polyrhythm 08.02.17	why she married to Dr. Robotnik tho
polyrhythm 08.02.17	Humpty Dumpt
kris. 08.02.17	$$$
Egarran 08.03.17	He looked liked Darth Vader without helmet.
TalonsOfFire 08.03.17	I finally watched FWWM last night, alternating the scenes by watching a scene from the Missing Pieces all chronologically, and altogether it's an incredible 3-3 1/2 hour movie. Every TP fan should watch it, including The Missing Pieces that fleshes out the movie and explains more, especially completing the whole David Bowie section. This new season makes more sense having seen FWWM+Missing Pieces, letting you see everything important that the original show couldn't get to, most helpfully with those other agents Chet and Philip Jeffries (Bowie) mentioned in the latest episode, Part 12, both seen in the first quarter of FWWM and nowhere else. There's also more of that ring, and a little more of what happened to Annie. Part 12 was ok but one of my least favorite eps of the new season. A lot of parts, especially Audrey's return, seemed to be deliberately frustrating, which is how Lynch rolls sometimes I guess. 11 was fantastic and one of the best of the new season though.
polyrhythm 08.03.17	'greed
owen 08.03.17	just started reading the secret history of twin peaks anyone here read it?
JeetJeet 08.03.17	The Mitchum bros are fuckin hilarious
Egarran 08.03.17	Classic adorable gangsters.
Rowan5215 08.07.17	they brought back Just You and I this is the greatest thing I have evER FUCKING WITNESSED
kris. 08.07.17	fuck lynch that was the last thing i ever wanted to hear again james can foad forever
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.07.17	Holy fuck I love every second of this, 5 episodes left and we are left for a fucking ridiculous trip James cameo?
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.07.17	Something I never thought u would ever want to see again and at first was cringe dying ... and then it was fucking amazing
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.07.17	Best roadhouse set so far 8/5 good job
Rowan5215 08.07.17	my sides still fucking hurt from laughing that was incredible. top 5 eps so far
kris. 08.07.17	apparently ep 14 got leaked by a german streaming service
wwf 08.07.17	the first 2/3rds of this episode was fucking incredible, the last third kinda got into the confusing muddled vibe the 12th episode had but still it was very very good still can't even fathom that James set
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.07.17	Can we talk about how polar Audrey was in her scene? Is she in a weird arranged marriage of some sort to her therapist? She seems to have gone mad.
Rowan5215 08.07.17	I think she might be damaged from the bank explosion and possibly Tina, Billy, Chuck etc don't even exist it's just a coping mechanism. would definitely retroactively make ep 12 watchable for me
wwf 08.07.17	yeah this episode def confirmed that something's horribly wrong with her
ArsMoriendi 08.07.17	I never thought I'd say this but: I ship Jacoby and Nadine
tempest-- 08.07.17	YES ARS hahaha omg James was too much when that announcer introduced him I was like wat then the opening to the song started I literally said NO WAY aloud hahaha
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.07.17	Lmao yes both James and Nadine and jacoby scenes were legendary. But anyways ya, something is fucked with Audrey. Maybe she's still in a coma even
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.07.17	But that one dude still came into the RR asking if anyone had seen billy
kris. 08.07.17	if you watch her reflection in the window on all the shots of Charlie in that scene, Audrey doesn't appear to be moving whatsoever even when she's talking and when the camera's on her, she's really expressive. it weirded me the fuck out. something's definitely up. plus that and Big Ed's reflection was doing weird shit too at the end.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.07.17	Wooord
Egarran 08.07.17	Missed all of that
owen 08.07.17	do you want me to end your story Audrey?
Egarran 08.07.17	Yeah, I'm gonna use that. Apparently she's trapped in coma/lodge dimension.
hamid95 08.08.17	I'm really worried for Audrey. That was an unnerving scene.
Rowan5215 08.08.17	so yeah 8, 10, 11 and 13 are my favourite episodes after a rewatch and would probably make up a decent portion of my top 10 twin peaks overall. 3 and 12 are easily the worst but both still have enough good scenes (incredibly strong first halves in both) to make up for their bad parts. if this wraps up well, which it probably will, it will go down as the best season of the show and possibly of TV overall
polyrhythm 08.09.17	agreed on everything but 3 being among the worst episodes this season, nooo way
wwf 08.09.17	yeah 3's easily one of my favorites
Rowan5215 08.09.17	3 starts so strongly but the whole 10 minutes of vomiting sequences and 10 minutes of dougie at the casino is near unwatchable on replay (it was one of my favourite eps first time around). I say this as a gigantic fan of dougie too
Egarran 08.09.17	You don't like watching people vomit over and over? gtfo
wwf 08.09.17	it goes slightly on too long but I wouldn't say it's nearlyyyy unwatchable
Rowan5215 08.09.17	I've not once managed to make it through the full ep on 3-4 rewatches lol, every other episode I can get all the way through
Egarran 08.09.17	I didn't get the point of the whole armwrestling scene other than 'Boop is a Badass'. It played like some 80s b-movie. Ray should possibly have said something about Mr. C. being a demon: "Check out what happens when you shoot him, it's pretty fascinating stuff".
TalonsOfFire 08.09.17	Yeah there are some scenes that make me wonder if there's self-awareness or not. As frustrating as these past two episodes have been, I've really enjoyed most of the season especially ep. 1, 2, 3 (before the casino scene), 7, 8, and 11. If I rewatch this season I'm sure there'd be tons of scenes to skip, especially in the two latest episodes.
tom79 08.09.17	arm wrestling scene was so good
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.10.17	honestly boys twin peaks: the revival is quite possibly my favourite thing ever televised at this point. i fully love every second of it.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.10.17	oh man when he one-punched the dudes skull in, Booper is a ledg
someguest 08.10.17	YOUUUUUUUU AND IIIIIIIIII
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.10.17	that made me not hate james anymore
Rowan5215 08.10.17	but James was always cool
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.10.17	thats what they say yup
someguest 08.10.17	James and Donna were the worst characters in the original series. Diane's probably the worst in the reboot.
tempest-- 08.10.17	nah diane's cool, just her saying "fuck you" all the time got old REAL quick
someguest 08.10.17	I liked that aspect of her character. Most of the time she's just sitting around scowling though.
Rowan5215 08.10.17	yeah when they first introduced Diane in episode 4 I was totally hooked - her interview scene with Evil Coop was absolutely riveting - but they've really been underusing Laura Dern's talents since then. hopefully she gets some really good material in the last few eps when it all goes down even in absentia, Donna is still the worst character in The Return. and in the original series. actually she's pretty much the worst character everywhere, in every conceivable universe, across all of time and space. she's a universal constant
wwf 08.10.17	'honestly boys twin peaks: the revival is quite possibly my favourite thing ever televised at this point. i fully love every second of it.' if it ends as strongly as it promises to, it'll be an easy top five tv show for me
wwf 08.10.17	If I had to take a risky guess as to what I'd love to see happen with the last five episodes, btw, I'd say that at least the last two or three episodes are going to be told almost entirely from Dougie Coop's perspective as he gradually works his way through the plot, maybe still being led by the red room, around which many of the little subplot threads will kind of be feeding into each other in a really natural way like they have so far (like Richard, all the different aspects of the drug trade in Twin Peaks like Becky and Sky Ferreira and the guy who can do magic, Ben Horne and his mistresses' odd sounds in the walls WHICH HOLY FUCK I JUST REALIZED MIGHT BE AUDREY HOLY SHIT, Bobby and Hawk, the mob bosses and Janey- E, who might end up learning Dougie is technically an escaped convict to the government, Jacoby's trailer and the Woodsman, Sarah Palmer and of course, all sorts of supernatural shenanigans, etc) with characters like Audrey and Diane being explored more in the coming couple episodes and playing large roles in the final few episodes, with the emotional crux of it being Dougie Coop sort of learning who he was through familiar faces I'd imagine that's about where they're going with it, they've been consistently very clever about how different plot points intersect, to the point where I could theoretically see them pulling off pretty solid payoffs for much of the shit that I mentioned, without even needing that many scenes. Or maybe it'll go totally off-roading. I don't fuckin know. I'm sure it'll be fun either way, this show is so goddamn good at crafting scenes And that's not to say that they even need to pay off all of the plotlines that they've set up, a world like this obviously can be left sort of open-ended. Either way, it is admittedly kind of hard to care whether or not Hank and Norma will be together and if Norma will be able to make her pies the way she wants to when so many more interesting things are at stake
wwf 08.10.17	ok I was pretty much just using that post to write out my thoughts, but to highlight the part that I think is most likely to come true, I'd say I'd put money on it being Audrey that is causing that hum, with her soul being trapped in that room with Charlie and her body maybe even still in a coma It's strange to me that I can't remember anyone else posting that theory since Audrey started cropping up in the show, it seems like a pretty obvious connection to me now since she'd often use the walls to hide in in the original run
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.10.17	"actually she's pretty much the worst character everywhere, in every conceivable universe, across all of time and space. she's a universal constant" i died
Rowan5215 08.10.17	"i died" so did Donna, hopefully also wwf you meant Ed and Norma, not Hank and Norma. by and large I agree with your general thoughts though. the show has pretty clearly telegraphed that the teams of Hawk/Frank/Bobby + Gordon/Albert/Tammy + Evil Coop/potentially with Richard Horne are all on heading to those same coordinates on a collision course, with the only real question being if Dougie will also get there and if so how. the show's been leading to this climax so strongly I'm starting to think they might subvert it at the last minute and have the showdown elsewhere because it's been such a big lead-up but who even knows. most of the original character cameos like Ed, Norma, Nadine, Jacoby etc I don't think will play a huge role outside of reminding us what the characters are fighting for, but at the same time I have a fucking weird feeling Jerry Horne will save the day somehow so IDK TBH
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.10.17	i hope so jerry is the fucking man
Rowan5215 08.10.17	Jerry is top 5 supporting characters for real (Ed, Pete, Lucy, Shelly make up the rest - Hawk and Bobby were in there too but I count them both as main characters in s3)
Egarran 08.10.17	Please don't tempt us with ideas of neat resolutions. I am fully prepared for the last three episodes to be surreally frustrating headscratchers where some strange smudge on a windscreen is responsible for the entire cosmos. Nice analysis btw wwf.
owen 08.10.17	jerry will stumble into one of the the lodges by accident
kris. 08.14.17	what the FUCK at EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED THIS EPISODE
polyrhythm 08.14.17	tied with 8 for best episode ever, FUCK
polyrhythm 08.14.17	so many twists and reveals and unforgettable moments
someguest 08.14.17	Good episode. I think Diane is lying about her half-sister. It's information Cooper #2 told her.
kris. 08.14.17	oh damn i didn't even think about that. that reveal didn't sit right with me, it was way too convenient. would make sense given what we know about diane's relationship with doppelcoop.
Rowan5215 08.14.17	most anxiety inducing episode of the entire show (barring Episode 29 and Return Part 8 but they're not exactly a fair comparison because they're from another plane of existence). my heart is still going like a fucking jackhammer, jesus
tempest-- 08.14.17	andy is the hero we always needed
wwf 08.14.17	fucking loved this episode
wwf 08.14.17	rick and morty and game of thrones were fire too great night
Rowan5215 08.14.17	my personal theory time - the Fireman chose Andy to come into the Lodge because he was the one who rushed to help the naked lady first, and he sort of acted the most selflessly. not saying the other three are selfish or anything but there were definitely degrees of that happening - Hawk was concerned but sort of shifted his attention to the weird hole quite quickly, we didn't quite cut to Frank as much but I assumed he was just trying to catch up with what was happening, and Bobby was just kind of slack-jawed trying to process what he was seeing. I mean we know the Giant historically has used people with lots of compassion and empathy as his agents - that's why he appeared to Coop in Season 2 - so I think we're seeing that repeating pattern because Andy showed the most compassion in that moment
wwf 08.14.17	I can't believe that Monica Bellucci scene happened
ArsMoriendi 08.14.17	Sarah Palmer will be in my nightmares tonight Also that window washer lol
tempest-- 08.14.17	yeah what terrible form, those windows will have streaks all over them
hamid95 08.14.17	I HAD ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE MONICA BELLUCCI DREAMS
Taxt 08.14.17	WILSON, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I TOLD YOOUUUUU THIS IS WHAT WE DO IN THE FBI
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.14.17	That episode was off the fucking chizzle Holy fuck
tom79 08.14.17	Amazing episode last night. I love how Bowie's character (Philip Jefferies) is still central to the plot despite him not being able to film any scenes. Same with Major Briggs.
polyrhythm 08.15.17	this whole season has blown me away, but episodes 8, 11 and 14 have been the absolute gems
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.15.17	Seeing Andy in the white lodge is everything I never knew I wanted. So was seeing james perform that song again lmao
hamid95 08.15.17	juuuuuust youuuuuu
Thalassic 08.15.17	Do you really wanna fuck with this?
Thalassic 08.15.17	Let's go back to starting position it really is much more comfortable
Egarran 08.15.17	Amazing. Hulk hand brit vs Boop for the armwrestling match to decide the course of the universe.
protokute 08.15.17	could that women they found on the forest be Josie Packard?
tempest-- 08.15.17	nah Josie died remember? although she did appear in the mantle above the fireplace to Pete so who really knows. also the eyeless woman was around way back in episode 3 after Cooper was in that glass box.
Egarran 08.15.17	It must be Josie. This show only has room for one asian.
protokute 08.15.17	@tempest but remember that after she died she kind of got trapped on that table at the Great Northern? maybe the sound ben keeps hearing at the hotel, might be her trying to communicate, dont know
ArsMoriendi 08.15.17	If that IS Josie, can she haunt Catherine lol Oh wait Joan Chen and Piper Laurie weren't on the cast list :/
kris. 08.15.17	nah that's the lady from episode 3 that fell off the tower thing in the lodge-looking area. i thought it might be josie at first but it isn't.
polyrhythm 08.15.17	She's Judy, Josie's twin sister who got aborted in season two, but got brought back now. Remember Phillip Jeffries' "we're not gonna talk about Judy" in FWWM... also the creepy blue monkey who whispered "Judy" and this Naido chick is totally making monkey ass noises
JeetJeet 08.16.17	Sarah Palmer biting that dude's neck off made my jaw drop.
Winesburgohio 08.21.17	[spoiler] i cried when Hawk said "good bye, Margaret" [spoiler] another episode that hits it out of the park i am blessed to be alive tbh
Winesburgohio 08.21.17	WE TALKED ABOUT JUDY HELL BABY GOD DAMN NO
kris. 08.21.17	yeah log lady saying goodbye got me all kindsa teary eyed also i dig Jeffries being a fucked up tea pot now
heck 08.21.17	if David Lynch can recast a dancing dwarf as a brain tree, why can't he recast David Bowie as a robot tea kettle?
kris. 08.21.17	this show fucking rules. i cannot stress how much i love it and i'm really not ready for this run to end.
polyrhythm 08.21.17	woodsman voice: I'm a little teapot short and stout THIS is my handle and THIS is my spout
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.21.17	its amazing that lynch actually got bowie to record lines before he died. that and margaret ??? :[[
heck 08.21.17	unfortunately the voice wasn't Bowie. Nathan Frizzell was listed in the credits as the voice of Phillip Jeffries.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.21.17	ahhh fuck, you're right. i just saw before that in the credits it said david bowie as philip jefferies and i got all excited. but he's just sarah palmer'ing it this episode. damn
heck 08.21.17	he also re-dubbed Bowie's lines in the flashbacks. I'm curious how this Frizzell guy even got the Jeffries role. he does a decent enough impression but he's younger than Bowie was even in FWwM, has very few if any roles of note, and his real voice sounds absolutely nothing like him. every time I see and hear Tim Roth's character I wish they'd cast him as Jeffries to be honest.
kris. 08.21.17	i dunno, i do really like tin teapot Jeffries as a fully transformed black lodge spirit or whatever the fuck he is at this point.
heck 08.21.17	fellas, don't drink that coffee! you're not gonna believe this, there was a Phillip in the percolator!
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.21.17	JEFFERIES IS A PERCOLATOR!!!!
ArsMoriendi 08.21.17	Audrey Tries to Leave the House Part III: The Strangling
wwf 08.21.17	I really hope nothing fucked up happened to Becky Steve probably killed himself with what looked like her gun and he seemed to regret something deeply so god damnit if Becky just died offscreen Imma be distraught
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.21.17	itll show it, its out of order.
tempest-- 08.21.17	Norma + Ed tho
Rowan5215 08.21.17	best episode of the entire show? honestly probably EYE'LL UNLAAHHCK THE DOOOR FORRRR YEWWWWWW
Rowan5215 08.21.17	WE ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT JUDY IN FACT, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT JUDY A LOT
tempest-- 08.21.17	and OMG I can't believe they cut Coop's scene right as he jumpstarted his brain! next episode will be massive
adr 08.21.17	MARS
JeetJeet 08.21.17	That lady that unlocked the door for Evil Coop creeped me the fuck out.
owen 08.22.17	why is Sarah the Jumping Man?
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.22.17	A part of me expected the socket to pop his shoes out and then dougie puts them on and becomes full coop again LMAO
polyrhythm 08.22.17	old shoes
someguest 08.22.17	I love the show, but some of the special effects are lol.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.22.17	True but also intentional
someguest 08.22.17	Jimmy Barrett (his Mad Men character's name) getting a chunk of his skull blown apart was anti-climatic.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.22.17	True but also unexpected. But very lynch.
Egarran 08.22.17	"that lady that unlocked the door for Evil Coop creeped me the fuck out" You noticed her in the end credits? Damn.
TalonsOfFire 08.22.17	I watched the the most recent 2 episodes, and I have to say they're among the best eps. of the entire series. 15 especially was a real emotional rollercoaster. Seeing those Jeffries flashbacks and the build-up to seeing him again really made me sorrowful about Bowie's death again and not reprising that character in this new series. The robot tea kettle creature was neat tho. I cried inside my head at that whole log lady section too, what a beautiful series of scenes. It was jarring to then transition to Audrey & Humpty-Dumpty vol. 3, but it ended up working. Really excited by the possibility of Coop finally coming 'round next ep. and how this is going to wrap up overall. While it almost definitely won't be a neat ending tying up all loose ends, but I know Lynch wouldn't've made this 18-hour film if he didn't think it was a story worth telling.
polyrhythm 08.24.17	Episode 8 was evidence that Lynch can do good special effects when he wants to also am I hitting peak masochism / fanboyism or are the Audrey scenes with Charlie kinda awesome
tempest-- 08.24.17	They're odd. I don't think it's literally just two people arguing. When Charlie said "you can't leave the house" or something to that effect and then Audrey's reaction seemed to me like there's actually a force stopping her. I don't know if it's her dreaming in a coma or some weird Lodge magic or what.
wwf 08.24.17	Honestly the last episode felt... Like, fan servicey is the wrong phrase since its so reductive, but it definitely was way deeper to a lot of long-time fans mostly due to the unfortunate deaths of some of the actors, but just watching it as a fairly recent twin peaks fan, it was a sweet and caring episode but I wouldnt put it in the top ten episodes of twin peaks or anything. It was solid
tom79 08.24.17	The Lody Lady's last scene, on the phone with Hawk...fuck, that was heavy. And "I've been loving you too long" playing during the Norma/Ed scene was perfect.
owen 08.25.17	oh mr jeffries the steam it comes out of my spout
Egarran 08.25.17	it smells like sunshine dust
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.25.17	Lmao owen
JeetJeet 08.28.17	Goodbye my son
polyrhythm 08.28.17	crazy eventful episode
JeetJeet 08.28.17	Our favorite agent is FUCKIN BACK LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
JeetJeet 08.28.17	AND HE'S PULLIN UP TO TWIN PEAKS WITH THE MITCHUM BROS LETS FUCKIN GOOOOOOOOOO
wwf 08.28.17	that was probs the best episode of twin peaks ever insanely excited for the last two. holy shit did they know what they're doing
someguest 08.28.17	agreed that it was the best episode of the reboot both annoying characters are dead and tim roth relived his reservoir dogs role ha
Rowan5215 08.28.17	that was fucking incredible
Taxt 08.28.17	GOD DAMN what an episode
wwf 08.28.17	I almost feel dirty after watching that episode, it was so good Basically an hour of total Twin Peaks porn
Rowan5215 08.28.17	agreed that was entirely Lynch giving us a full slice of cherry pie after waving it under our Moses for 15 hours and I fucking love it I AM THE FBI
Winesburgohio 08.28.17	perfect episode perfect episode perfect episode, i know i have a heart of gold now
Avagantamos 08.28.17	I had the biggest fucking grin on my face for about 10 minutes after coop pulled that tube out of his mouth : - )
tom79 08.28.17	COOPS BACK fuck yeah amazing ep
kris. 08.28.17	i fucking cried.
owen 08.28.17	Cooper is Audrey's tulpa / half the season was her imagination
owen 08.28.17	well not really, but things will get very unpleasant very soon
wwf 08.28.17	really tho, rip richard you were a bad person but you were so hot
polyrhythm 08.29.17	is he dead or just lodgin' tho
Egarran 08.30.17	The Richard and Hutch + Chantal plots came to great ends, but I'm not sure what the point of them was. So they could be lodgin'. Maybe they are being transformed into woodsmen.
owen 08.30.17	"The Hutch + Chantal plot came to great ends, but I'm not sure what the point of them was." Tarantino parody because he talked shit about FWWM
Egarran 08.30.17	lol
polyrhythm 08.30.17	Richard's arc ended abruptly, if it indeed is over, but Hutch and Chantal? They were entertaining hitmen who did Booper's bidding all season, typing up loose ends, but died trying to kill good Cooper. What more did you want from them or that subplot? To come ask Norma for a bag of Doritos and then crack wise with Mike in the Red Room? What's left is the extradimensional Laura stuff, and they had no place in that part of the show. No way
wwf 08.30.17	at the rate this show is tying up loose ends now, I wouldn't be surprised if Wally shows back up and is the key to everything
Egarran 08.30.17	"What more did you want from them or that subplot?"' As I said, them being transformed into woodsmen.
protokute 08.30.17	THE BIRD
Egarran 08.30.17	Ohh, one thing I completely missed is that Booper suspects a trap at the coordinates, so he makes Richard check it out. I thought he just coldly sacrificed him.
kris. 08.30.17	I know he got coordinates from Ray and Jeffries, but when did he get the coordinates off Ruth Davenport's body? Or did he get those from tulpa Diane? That third set of coordinates confuses me.
wwf 08.30.17	Diane probably sent them to him when she had that moment of clarity, she sent him coordinates and said something like 'hope this works' Jeffries also probably gave him the trap coordinates, he shouldve just trusted ray
AngryLittleAlchemist 08.30.17	This new season is both great and slightly underwhelming. Personally though I found Dougie to be a very relatable character, especially when he jammed that fork into an outlet. Memories.
wwf 08.31.17	That cheesy camera swoop-in on Janey-E when Coop's leaving just destroys me
wwf 08.31.17	'Diane probably sent them to him when she had that moment of clarity, she sent him coordinates and said something like 'hope this works'' anyway after rewatching the episode I was wrong lmao I dunno when he got the coordinates
Lord(e)Po)))ts 08.31.17	He got coordinates from diane, ray, and jefferies no?
tempest-- 08.31.17	"That cheesy camera swoop-in on Janey-E" got that soap opera feel again :')
Rowan5215 08.31.17	well Diane texted him the co-ordinates AFTER Richard had died and the discussion about three people giving him co-ordinates had taken place. so unless some time fuckery is going on (which honestly is a strong theory at this point) Dooper had three people give him numbers before Diane sending him a fourth set. idkkk all I'm sure of is "I am the FBI" will go down as one of the finest moments in television history, no bamboozle
tempest-- 08.31.17	I did see something about how scenes aren't shown linearly. had a quick look for the original post, but I couldn't find it. Jacoby was doing a Dr. Amp show and saying it's 7:00 or something, yet the establishing shot clearly showed the moon/middle of the night. Idk can't remember
owen 08.31.17	does anyone remember the "dougie's story takes place in 2003" theory?
polyrhythm 08.31.17	no but sounds awful Logposting is a hot mess of tulpa theories atm
Egarran 08.31.17	That's my go to place for juicy memes. http://imgur.com/a/16UVZ
AngryLittleAlchemist 09.01.17	Im depressed that pete died like, in 1996 fuck
Egarran 09.01.17	So happy you're back to spread the awesome vibes.
kris. 09.01.17	GUYS GUYYYYYS CANDIE DIANE C CANDIE IS A DIANE TULPA, POTS WAS RIGHT jk but the wait for the finale is killing me
wwf 09.01.17	Diane Cooper?
kris. 09.01.17	maybe MAYBE actually her name is diane evans but
TalonsOfFire 09.01.17	Candie must be a tulpa, probably an agent that Black Lodge Cooper sent into Dougie's life to keep tabs on him if I had to guess. So stoked for Sunday, only recently found out that both last episodes are airing that day.
wwf 09.01.17	Yeh no GoT or R and M this Sunday so its allllllll Twin Peaks that day
kris. 09.01.17	i'm gonna throw a 1-man party and cry for 2 hours while i stuff my face with pizza
Egarran 09.02.17	Who's up for suicide when TP ends?
hamid95 09.02.17	*raises hand* Ready for that third act, baby! (R.I.P. Richard Horne, you weird-looking, hot excuse for a human being)
Egarran 09.03.17	I wonder if you can commit suicide by drinking a huge amount of very strong coffee.
tom79 09.03.17	Man I can't wait for the finale. Buddies and I arranged to watch tomorrow night together but its gonna be hard for me not to watch tonight as I have the house to myself. Might just watch it both nights. Really hoping there is a Cooper/Harry Truman scene but it seems slim :'(
owen 09.03.17	harry couldn't even bother to get his lazy ass away from hawaii to contribute to TV history, while log lady and labert etc were dying on set
Neatoo 09.03.17	it didn't seem richard died, more like he was taken away to the black lodge. Or maybe he's just dead, lol.
Spluger 09.03.17	Just want to say that the Hutch and Chantal sub plot has been one of my favorites of the season, it ended incredibly.
Taxt 09.03.17	TONIGHT HYPE HYPE HYPE
ArsMoriendi 09.03.17	Jennifer Jason Leigh was exactly the character I hoped she'd be. Same with Laura Dern too.
Neatoo 09.03.17	eh Diane was a low point for me, tho i still love laura dern.
hamid95 09.03.17	fDiane's last couple of scenes were fantastic. It's been a pleasure, folks, following the show along with this thread as part of the experience.
kris. 09.03.17	i'll see u all on the other side. hope lynch is able to stick the landing.
wwf 09.04.17	what
AngryLittleAlchemist 09.04.17	HOLY SHIT THOSE LAST TWO EPISODES BEST EPISODES OF TWIN PEAKS
AngryLittleAlchemist 09.04.17	Andy and Lucy are so clever Do you want coffee? VERY IMPORTANT
TalonsOfFire 09.04.17	17 was fantastic and really surprised me with how much it wrapped everything up, and felt like it naturally concluded a lot of things. Then of course it had to have that last 10 minutes, and then the whole part 18.
tom79 09.04.17	This finale needs a lot of digesting. I can't even process it right now.
TalonsOfFire 09.04.17	That's for sure. All I can say is, hoping for more episodes or a movie, unless that's really all there is to the story. That last episode made me feel more mystified and unnerved than anything I've seen in a very long time. I think I'm gonna have trouble sleeping tonight.
tom79 09.04.17	I feel like at it's core Twin Peaks was always about Laura and Cooper...so even though I don't fully comprehend this all right now...I can get behind a (potentially) series finale dealing with just those two. I remember watching FWWM years ago and that final shot of Dale resting his hand on Laura's shoulder in the lodge... that image stuck with me and I remember being okay if that was it. And now I gotta grapple with this one lol. I'm rewatching it tomorrow with people who haven't seen it yet so I'll go into it with fresh eyes.
TalonsOfFire 09.04.17	That uplifting ending shot of Cooper with Laura was amazing yea. I recently saw FWWM + The missing Pieces and am so glad I did before this finale. It was really fitting to have it be Cooper and Laura at the end, but am still trying to process that whole episode, it's pace, the dialogue, and obviously that very last scene.
tom79 09.04.17	There's just so much to chew on with this episode. 'Is it future or is it past?' Anyone wanna take on 'Richard and Linda'?
TalonsOfFire 09.04.17	The giant had told Cooper to remember the names Richard and Linda in Part 6 I believe? Cooper and Dianne going through the electricity highway entered an alternate dimension of the world (or time traveled?), I guess to get to the bottom of what the meaning of all this is? In this alternate reality, everyone are different people leading different lives b/c Laura never died, hence Cooper and Dianne are now Richard and Linda. She gradually became that other person overnight in the hotel, and left to live that life forgetting Dianne. Cooper is special and is the only one who remembers, finds Laura who is Judy somehow? Can't process that connection right now. I could be wrong, these are just my thoughts atm. No idea about that ending, or what happened to Audrey, or Annie, or what the point of all of this is haha, but that's Lynch for ya. Dreams and stuff.
tom79 09.04.17	Fuckin Lynch... Also take note of the names of the previous owners of the Palmer residence that the woman tells Coop in the last scene: Tremond and Chalfont...names of the old lady and her grandson, lodge inhabitants from the convenience store. Gotta be something going there. What, I don't know.
TalonsOfFire 09.04.17	Yeah the names thing has importance of some kind. The convenience store/gas station is some other residence of lodge spirits, but I can't remember much significance beyond general Twin Peaks mythology. That Sarah Palmer scene stabbing the portrait was some reaction to changing Laura's fate too, can't really process that atm either
Winesburgohio 09.04.17	1) the weirdest thing happened, watching the finale -- i went from impatient ("jesus christ there's only twenty minutes left Lynch") to inexplicably moved, to full on emotionally destroyed. it felt so much like returning home, but home in a spiritual but not physical sense, with the comfort and sadness that brings, and it was evoked so poignantly through the slowness idk. my interpretation is that Laura Palmer managed to break the cycle of Cooper constantly trapped in a recursive loop by remembering. she was in a dream, or fugue state, which Cooper was able to enter with Dianne; i assume Dianne was removed because the mental defenses become harder the closer you get to Laura. when Laura remembered the lights went out and the dream / fugue state disappeared. i guess the "point", if there is one, is about confrontation and acknowledgement of trauma to make sense of reality and "transcend", i guess (compare with Audrey here, who's trapped bc she won't acknowledge her condition), the way trauma is cyclical, and that evil exists and happens, but life, in its beautiful mundanity, goes on just my very rushed hot take
AngryLittleAlchemist 09.04.17	I'm not very good at making theories but I had assumed that the part where Cooper tried to save Laura in the woods is connected to the last part where Cooper meets Laura. I think it's kind of a "what if" scenario on what would have happened if Laura had a different fate, which is why the first part of it ends with Laura disappearing and screaming in the woods, and then it continues when Cooper goes into another reality ... or dream ... or time travels or something, and the episode ends as Laura screams(Didn't she hear her mom calling for her?) It's kind of interesting, I wonder if the interpretation itself is as important as the message. Laura was given a second chance, and her life still went to shit, as clearly visible from her house and her desire to runaway from something. With a lot of the more abstract media, I really wonder if deciphering the events is as important as understanding the message, or just hell feeling it in general. It's funny because I remember reading somewhere that Laura's mom was the evil one and I thought "oh come on, that's bullshit. That guy at the bar totally deserved it". Then the finale aired and she's stabbing a picture of her daughter .... i don't even know what to think of that.
tempest-- 09.04.17	my life is over
Rowan5215 09.04.17	a great episode of TV, but a bad ending to the show. so it goes, so it goes
Rowan5215 09.04.17	If it wasn't obvious to us already this has once and for all shown Lynch cares more about his surreal navel gazing than he cares about any of the characters he's made. big shrug
Winesburgohio 09.04.17	that isn't fair at all i don't think. it ended with Coop and Laura -- foreshadowed in FWWM especially but also throughout the show -- and the two characters were treated with compassion and honesty. Coopers briefly defeated look at Laura's dawning realisation... it wasn't obvious, but it took both the characters virtues and flaws and represented them honestly and beautifully, and that's enough for me
Rowan5215 09.04.17	but we weren't even watching Coop and Laura. we were watching different people played by the same actors, but it didn't even end with either of the characters we've followed for so long. it was all just a big nothing
Winesburgohio 09.04.17	i think we were, and i think the dawning recognition occurred before the scream BUT i do take ur point obviously! different interps obvs
AngryLittleAlchemist 09.04.17	"If it wasn't obvious to us already this has once and for all shown Lynch cares more about his surreal navel gazing than he cares about any of the characters he's made. big shrug" How can you have this stance and think it's the best show on TV though? (Well ... I kind of agree somewhat ... but not on the last two episodes. The surrealism I thought actually did a great job of exploring characters in those episodes in particular)
owen 09.04.17	obliterating ending
owen 09.04.17	15,16 and 17 made me worry everything would be resolved like a generic tv show
owen 09.04.17	The woman who answered the door at the end is actually the real owner of the Palmer house irl
Anthracks 09.04.17	1Q84 anyone?
JeetJeet 09.04.17	Why did people assume Candie was a tulpa?
Neatoo 09.04.17	if Laura is the embodiment of goodness and kindness just as Bob was of evil and wickedness we can only but asume Laura is destined to die/have a shitty life cuz goodness and kindness never get you nowhere and humanity is fucked. Cooper, the most stand-up guy ever, tries and tries again to save Laura, but it's ultimately useless.
Winesburgohio 09.04.17	@anthracks i thought wind-up chronicles, especially with the metaphysical hotel/motel motif!! but also hell yes
JeetJeet 09.04.17	Tbh I thought the ending could have been way better, but episode 17, excluding the cheesy Bob-blob flying around, was incredible. Easily the best season of TP.
Rowan5215 09.04.17	@Alch frustrating elements nonwithstanding, there's nothing on TV now or in '91 that remotely compares to Twin Peaks. it's a collapsing neutron star of genius, pathos and fucking terrible stuff (s2.5) that is unlike anything else now, or probably ever. for that reason alone it goes down as an all-timer with some time to reflect, though, I think I'm starting to like 18. it was beautifully shot and acted and ensured that there'll be questions around this show forever, rather than a full stop which necessarily means discussion would be limited going forward. I am still pissed at the callous shrugging off of literally all the other characters, but hey, Frost's book will prolly tick those boxes
Neatoo 09.04.17	i just wanna know wtf was in that box in Buenos Aires. Rest of characters i don't really care that much about, for me this whole season, more than the original, was really about the mystery and the surreal/dream logic, just as Lynch really wanted it to be (as he said many many times).
Rowan5215 09.04.17	fuck knows - how was Ray an informant for the FBI the whole time if his orders came from Jeffries? who was trying to kill Evil Coop the whole time? what was that symbol he showed Darya? where was Audrey? where was Becky? etc etc etc
JeetJeet 09.04.17	Beckys dead as a doorknob bruh. That's the only thing I'm sure of in terms of your questions.
Rowan5215 09.04.17	why did Bobby seem like his regular self if his daughter was lying dead somewhere?
Neatoo 09.04.17	i think the whole point with the becky story was to make a parallel with Laura. Young, beautiful and broken af... makes bad life choices, ends up (probably?) dead.
Anthracks 09.04.17	I think the final line was just a distraction to keep people from looking at the symbolism with that house (the lights being all on except the center two was eerie from the initial shot) - especially because the human head / consciousness is fairly popularly symbolized as a house
JeetJeet 09.04.17	I'm not even sure that he knew she was dead. I dunno man. It just seemed like the bullethole in the window of the trailer signified Becky's death. And Steven killed himself because he felt scared and guilty.
Anthracks 09.04.17	to me the constant two motifs of this new season were (obviously) identity and the meaning of identity, but also how any progression (electricity - the fire that burns but does not consume... arguably man's two greatest achievements), technologically will ultimately be a source of also the greatest of man's evil
JeetJeet 09.04.17	I think we all just got Lynched and this is our way of coping with it.
TalonsOfFire 09.04.17	What happened to Audrey? Annie? What was Cooper's destiny that the one-armed man and the giant wanted him to do? It really seemed like he and Dianne were entering a final gateway to understanding what all of it means, and what follows was an alternate reality that I think Laura ultimately shatters when she hears her name being called. She breaks the cycle somehow, b/c her scream echoes her scream in the red room, and the lights go out in the house and the reality breaks, or something like that.
Anthracks 09.04.17	@wines, there are definitely parallels there, too, but even the entrance to an alternate reality through a highway was 100% 1Q84 - and the ostensible theme of the infiniteness of time and possibility
Rowan5215 09.04.17	lol Annie was never gonna come back dude fuck if I know what most of the final episode means, but the Fireman sent Coop, Freddie, and Andy all to the sheriff's station at the same time for a reason - Andy had to get Freddie to the fight and get Lucy ready to shoot Doop, Freddie had to one punch man BOBball, and Coop had to put the ring on Doop so he'd go back to the Red Room when he died. after that is anyone's guess, but my theory is the Fireman knew Cooper would try to go as far as he can and stop Laura's death from ever happening, so he warns him "Richard and Linda. 430. Two birds with one stone." so at least he's prepared for the alternate reality (and he seems to have some resistance to his new personality, unlike Diane who quickly loses herself)
Anthracks 09.04.17	people have to be analyzing the ELECTRICITY - it cuts out as the very final moment. electricity is the way in which evil is borne into the world (in TP lore - the way spirits traverse planes). there's a reason white lodge is operated by steam. especially important considering that spirits came into twin peaks, theoretically, through the palmer home (rewatch all the scenes with sarah)
JeetJeet 09.04.17	So who owns that glass box in NY that was in Ep 1? Did I miss the answer to that or what?
Neatoo 09.04.17	even with the bloodcurdling scream, the lights going off may be a positive sign, after all.
Anthracks 09.04.17	the evil entities owned that box, I don't think the explanation goes any further than that. it was meant to trap and kill true coop so doop could exist solitarily in the world, correct?
Anthracks 09.04.17	@neato, right. I think that, even though our beloved characters are lost and have no meaning, the forces that anguished them are extinguished - bittersweet. a sacrifice was made
Neatoo 09.04.17	@jeet don't even matter, i think... Only important to know that it's a gateway to another world, just as the white lodge and black lodge's spots are.
Rowan5215 09.04.17	idk. I don't think anything got extinguished in that final scene lol. Judy still exists in our world and is a force incomprehensibly worse than BOB. Laura might be awake but Dale has lost his innocence and pure heart and they're trapped in another reality, and no matter what they do evil is always lurking in the hearts of men so another BOB will always be born. it's a pretty fucking grim ending from where I'm sitting
TalonsOfFire 09.04.17	I don't think the ending was meaningless, I think Laura's scream broke whatever dream state or alternate reality they were in. Anthracks brought up an important reminder that it's about the electricity, and the very last shot was all the lights going out in that house, and possibly the whole neighborhood. Also I understood the glass box to have been set up by evil Cooper to trap the real one when he came through.
Anthracks 09.04.17	well yeah, of course evil will always exist - but the way I look at it is that, despite the tone, it's meant to be an uplifting ending, that a choice can be made to ward off evil. it starts with the individual, which is the common nascent thread in a lot of positive philosophies
TalonsOfFire 09.04.17	I hadn't read Rowan's comment yet when I typed that but it fits as an answer to his reaction. This ending is obviously open to interpretation, but I share Anthracks's view that it's not a grim ending, that something changed. It's more ambiguous than anything. There's some kind of significance to the last line being "What year is it?" and credits played over her whispering something unknown to him in the red room. There's some parallels going on. It's all about Cooper and Laura, I'm happy they were the center of the ending.
Anthracks 09.04.17	and of course the power of good art comes from, in my opinion, the openness for many interpretations, which is why I think twin peaks is just about the greatest damn achievement in television ever
TalonsOfFire 09.04.17	It certainly made me feel more mystified and intrigued than anything else on TV or elsewhere in a long time. That ending music over the credits picture afterwards really hit it home. No one can say this show failed at atmosphere or intrigue haha
Rowan5215 09.04.17	possibly I'm just cynical, I thought the "what year is it" was a fucking devastating blow - the moment you fully realise that Coop is not in control and he has no clue what he's doing even when fully restored. even whole, 100% awake Cooper still gets way too far out of his depth. there's also the time travel theory that this is the house BEFORE Sarah and Leland have moved in, which I personally hate because the closed loop thing has been done too many times but w/e hot new theory: the last ep all takes place inside the Jeffries teapot
Anthracks 09.04.17	I don't like the time travel theories - they aren't consistent with lynch's methodologies. remember this is a guy who looks at human neuronal processes with 100000x zoom. like I said initially I think that line was just a distraction and an indication that, like you said, coop is completely powerless and confused
Neatoo 09.04.17	yea, no time-travel shenanigans... I also hate the freaudian interpretations... Like duh, the duality of man is in probably all piece of media ever, it's not that hard to find parallels with feudian and lacanian psychology. It never gets the full idea, it's just basic BASIC framework.
TalonsOfFire 09.04.17	Time period is significant in some way. I think it's alternate reality of some kind. The last line was "What year is this?" and someone online pointed out the population of Odessa on that sign was the number it was in 2010 in real life.
Rowan5215 09.04.17	Lost Highway at least definitely had some time travel shenanigans, but I don't think that was what happened here. we were clearly in at least another reality - Dale was wrong, Diane wasn't herself, the motel/car/room number completely changed when he woke up. more and more it feels like a certain book series that I will not name for fear of spoilers, where the character completes their task, but keeps pressing further out of pride/determination and ends up uprooting everything they ever knew because they didn't know when to stop
TalonsOfFire 09.04.17	Something like that is plausible. I wish there was more clarity about what exactly the goal was from the start (after defeating Bob), like was Cooper's intention with Dianne all along to venture into the past and undo Laura's death? He did it, and went too far, and things got screwed up to where he's lost in this alternate reality, but that ending realization of Laura changes something. The alternate reality dream world might've even shattered. Same level of ambiguity as Audrey's ending in any case, not sure what the point of that was.
wwf 09.04.17	Wasn't over the moon about the last two episodes tbh I like the idea of it and around half of it was really great but I wasn't too hot on the punching match between Mr. C and green glove guy; and I liked the surrealist tease of a last hour quite a bit, I just wish the framework around it was a bit more full, if that makes sense. They set up a lot of interesting plot only to kind of become disinterested in it. I thought for sure the Shelly/ Bobby/ Becky/ Steven/ Red/ drug trade/ magic/ evil/ Richard/ Audrey thing would be at least addressed in the finale, since they seemed to be setting up that network so heavily, but that was mostly just a case of my own expectations getting to me. Anyway, the ending of Cooper getting fucked over by Judy was pretty great and it was set up really well, I just wish it wasn't framed by sooooooo much driving. It made me less 'what's going on here oh my god' and more 'ok god when is this going to arrive at anything resembling more information' And I hope to God that if we get a season 4, we're not going to spend it in that miserable universe with a Cooper that's more Mr. C than Cooper. Dougie at least had the infectious goodness that Cooper does. It's frustrating that the show gave us a glimpse of the unabashed sweetness it's capable of only to take it away almost immediately. Plus the whole 'all the events you watched happen no longer exist' trope is pretty much never satisfying, so I really hope that's not what happened But whatever, it wasn't bad or anything. 'What year is this' is such a fucking great last line and like Rowan said, so devastating coming from Cooper and I want a season 4 pretty desperately
Rowan5215 09.04.17	what year is this? honestly takes a huge shit on how's annie? as a final line. jesus
Rowan5215 09.04.17	also, how funny is it that of all the OG supporting characters in the show, James Hurley ended up having the most important role in the last battle? that's some supreme comedy right there
JeetJeet 09.04.17	One for the grandkids
Neatoo 09.04.17	I don't think we really need a S4 tbh. Ep 18 works so well as an allegory of the dangers of trying to solve everything and save everyone.
TalonsOfFire 09.04.17	Assuming there's no follow-up episodes or movie, I think Audrey, and Coop with Laura woke up from their dreams, collapsing them. Laura remembered who she was when she heard her mom's voice calling her, somehow penetrating the alternate universe? The previous owners of that house were Black lodge spirits, that boy and his grandma from the 2nd season and FWWM. As a FB commenter said, "The dream collapses, just like it did to Audrey. When the mystery is solved, there is no more dream...."
tempest-- 09.04.17	im not ready to say goodbye to this show
TalonsOfFire 09.04.17	Same. I hope there's more
AngryLittleAlchemist 09.04.17	Supposedly it was a "success" even though it had "low ratings" I'm not a businessman so idk, but I hope there's another season.
Spluger 09.04.17	So was the Coop/Diane sex scene them slowly turning into Richard and Linda? That scene was creepy as hell. edit: nvm lol
polyrhythm 09.04.17	Beautiful couple of episodes. That silent drive with Laura and Dale was some of the saddest and most poignant shit I ever saw. Just didn't like the hulk glove dude or the way BOB was destroyed, in concept or in execution. Also there were a few missed opportunities, e.g. resolution of Becky or Audrey, woodsmen crushing Jacoby head live on air, and Judy-E doing some episode one lacerating madness. Plenty of mystery left to solve. Here's hoping for that season four that everyone (Lynch, Showtime) seems open to
polyrhythm 09.04.17	also Sheryl Lee for best metal vocalist holy balls
someguest 09.05.17	episode 17 was good episode 18 was not
Neatoo 09.05.17	ep 17 was epic ep 18 was epic
owen 09.05.17	17 was bad tbh
Egarran 09.05.17	I am also allergic to time-travel shenanigans. It can undermine anything because time travel makes anything possible. It often feels like a cheap trick. The glove kid vs Bob was pretty terrible, I think. What kind of surreal insight were we supposed to take from that? "Violence is the answer if you are strong as fuck", I guess. And almost all of ep 18 seemed pointless. Unless I again missed the significance of people driving and fucking. Loved the show, but disappointment was always a possibility.
Neatoo 09.05.17	ep 18 was the last reflection on the show as a whole and a counterpart to ep 17. it's pretty deep stuff... i loved it.
Egarran 09.05.17	Would love to hear your interpretations.
wwf 09.05.17	glove kid felt like a parody of the final battle trope it was distracting from the real plot tbh
Egarran 09.05.17	That whole showdown felt stupid. But it was weird enough to be ok. What are the theories on the hum Ben could hear?
wwf 09.05.17	something coming from Dale's room, I can only assume
polyrhythm 09.05.17	hulk hand cockney vs. BOB blob was dumb, everything else ruled
Neatoo 09.05.17	glove hand blocke was likeable enough and the fight was short enough for it to be cool in my book. 'Get you with my death bag' is both funny and terrifying af, B.O.B was a great villain.
TalonsOfFire 09.05.17	I heard some solid theories that whenever the humming is heard it's the sound of the White Lodge. There's more significance to that but can't remember. The glove vs. bob fight, and set-up with that character, was so ridiculous and dumb that I bought it and enjoyed it. Besides I don't think that was meant to be the real climax in terms of what this show has been about. Bob just needed to be defeated, so in the wacky world of Twin Peaks why not have it be from a Hulk hand.
hamid95 09.06.17	the mystery continues
polyrhythm 09.06.17	guess that makes more sense for the show than a clean resolution where everybody gets married and has pie
tempest-- 09.06.17	resolution doesnt have to mean happy tho
polyrhythm 09.06.17	True, I meant more that an ongoing sense of mystery fits this show better than resolution. This is all about entities and realities beyond human comprehension, it'd be weird for us to feel like it had arrived at a close, with no more extradimensional wild cards around the corner
TalonsOfFire 09.06.17	The way I see it Audrey and Coop were each in altered states of reality, either an alternate reality of some kind or a dream state (for how long idk), and each shattered. Laura screaming at her mother's call was the end of Cooper's somehow, which began when he went with Dianne through that portal. What happens next is a mystery, unless they make more at some point, but I'm not counting on it.
Egarran 09.06.17	"The whole series is just Audrey who took too many pills and fell asleep with the radio on." Also, it's funny that Jerry ended up naked in Wyoming.
Spluger 09.06.17	So is that the same scream when Laura disappears from the red room during the start of the season, and while Dale Cooper is leading her away from her certain doom? Man, I am excited to see if "The Final Dossier" will have any clues/context related to the ending.
tempest-- 09.08.17	most convincing thing i have read http://www.waggish.org/2017/twin-peaks-finale/
hamid95 09.08.17	Interesting theory
wwf 09.08.17	feels like reaching to me but there's some interesting stuff there
tempest-- 09.09.17	You think? I feel like it makes a lot of sense to me, but perhaps I'm just searching for closure haha.
Marehelm 05.07.18	I think I've given this time to settle. Rewatching season 3 for the first time now.
hamid95 05.07.18	Count me in - last year was such a journey
polyrhythm 05.07.18	One of my favourite television experiences ever
owen 05.07.18	fuck it's almost a year ago
TalonsOfFire 05.07.18	It sure felt like David Lynch: frustrating at times, but overall really unique, memorable, and engrossing from beginning to end. Would love another season at some point.
polyrhythm 05.07.18	I feel like the frustration led to some huuuuge payoffs in episodes 14-17. It trailed off into obscurity again in the finale, but I came to terms with that. Each season of Twin Peaks has left us with a hundred burning questions. That sense of ongoing mystery is really important imo
TalonsOfFire 05.07.18	I loved the first two and 1/2 episodes, the last two, the eigth, and a few others in the middle. It was a fantastic season overall, but also those pointless scenes of the younger characters, especially the sadistic Horne son, that didn't go anywhere. Some with the older characters too, but at least some had a payoff like Ed and Norma finally settling down together.
Rowan5215 05.08.18	I mean the idea of payoff is kind of antithetical to what Lynch is trying to do 90% of the time. scenes like the happy Norma and Ed ending exist mainly to demonstrate how brutally unresolved things will be for almost every other character
BREAKDOWNS 05.08.18	show is bad lmao
TalonsOfFire 05.08.18	I know but that’s not really a strong argument and kind of an excuse to do whatever and people will just rationalize it as “well that’s just how he is, so whatever goes.” All I’m saying is that if I rewatched this season I could skip nearly all the scenes with just people in their 20s, and shit like the guy sweeping for 7 minutes, and it wouldn’t make a difference to the story or character developments.
Rowan5215 05.08.18	It's his entire style, and foundational to the entire point he's trying to make through his filmmaking. Skip the parts you don't like if you want but just handwaving it off as "an excuse to do whatever" is missing the point, and also not a strong counter-argument
polyrhythm 05.08.18	Rowan gets it
TalonsOfFire 05.08.18	Whatever you guys say, it says a lot about how effective Lynch's stuff is that even the nonsensical and pointless stuff is defended by fans because of how well-done it all is overall.
polyrhythm 05.08.18	I feel like people these days watch one video assessment on youtube of a game, show or movie, derive a narrow method of critique, and then violently apply it to everything in that medium without a hint of nuance. Different stories operate on different logic. Whereas an unresolved plot thread in something like a Marvel movie was probably a script oversight, in Lynch’s projects it is almost certainly a deliberate decision to support a theme and / or aesthetic. There is no universal means of judging whether a piece of media “works” or not. These texts all have to be judged on their own terms. To try stuff something like Twin Peaks into a conventional narrative box and then complain that it doesn’t fit is to completely misunderstand the work.
TalonsOfFire 05.08.18	Sure but does that mean every non-conventional game, movie, any kind of story is perfect in every way and any criticism is moot just because it defines convention? There can be no chinks in the armor? Just saying that the point is that there is no resolution, there is no point, doesn't end the conversation, it only starts it. Episode 8 and the last one were pretty much open-ended and unresolved and it was excellent. When I was questioning the existence of a couple random scenes, I wasn't criticizing Lynch's style or the season overall. The crazy, abstract nature of the show is a main reason I love it.
polyrhythm 05.08.18	I didn’t say that it is above criticism, no way.. but if there is a stiff view of how a narrative should function that you are projecting onto the show, rendering significant portions as “nonsensical and pointless”, you might want to consider that your means of critiquing it might be inappropriate
someguest 05.08.18	Finally got around to seeing Eraserhead. And I thought the new season of Twin Peaks was a mindfuck. It was wild. I keep looking for the third season in stores but haven't found it. Might have to breakdown and order the set online.
TalonsOfFire 05.08.18	It's a just small number of scenes compared to the full 18 hours that I'm questioning, and I pretty much loved the season overall. I'm just not going to pretend I found every second to be essential and fantastic when there's, for example, 7 minutes of sweeping a floor unless someone convinces me otherwise if they really disagree with that. Maybe a scene like that adds to Lynch's vision somehow that others see and I don't, because yes, it's all very abstract and a lot is meant to be open-ended, but I'm not going to just blindly accept everything I see in a TV show/movie/etc. just b/c it's an unconventional narrative. But it's only small parts of a couple episodes that I'm talking about, so my criticisms are pretty minute. I only mentioned it in the first place because the other 90-95% if the season was so excellent by comparison.
someguest 05.08.18	I loved the sweeping of the floor. What makes that scene less meaningful than anything else in the show?
polyrhythm 05.08.18	Fair. Don’t remember the sweeping being 7 minutes long haha, I swear that shit was like three mins tops. Wasn’t even that abstract... felt like a pretty clear visual metaphor for all the plot threads finally coming together
TalonsOfFire 05.08.18	Good point given that nothing overall is really resolved. But how could one expect any other outcome? It just makes me want more... I hope Lynch has it in him, but if not it still stands as an incredible season of television/18 hour movie with one bleak and thought-provoking ending. "What year is this..." Cooper wondering if it he's in the past or the future (as the one-armed man had warned), Laura's scream from the original world came to this version of Laura (Carrie), she screamed in reaction, and the dream collapsed...
TalonsOfFire 05.08.18	@poly: I'm probably exaggerating, it just felt like 7 minutes cause I was in anticipation of what would happen. It being a metaphor is a cool way of looking at it. Lynch is a master of building tension, whether it leads to anything or not. Really keeps you engaged.
polyrhythm 05.08.18	I dislike the cliche of “it ain’t the destination that counts, it’s the journey” but I think it really applies to Lynch and the Return
Rowan5215 05.08.18	^ agreed also the sweeping was just fucking funny imo
someguest 05.08.18	^ yep People miss Lynch's black humor a lot.
Egarran 05.08.18	The Sweeping: I just remember my smile got wider and wider as the scene went on. It works on a few levels, not least the 'you can't do a scene like that'-level. In a way it works like an OTT gory scene. Which TP also has, but sweeping turned out to be the more controversial one.
polyrhythm 05.08.18	Yeah, there were so many "oh no he DIDN'T" moments in The Return, where I was just in awe of Lynch's audacity
TalonsOfFire 05.08.18	Yeah Twin Peaks can be hilarious. I thought the funnier parts were usually Mark Frost, since he handles the more small-town stuff I had read somewhere, but who knows. The French woman leaving the room for 5 minutes was another one. That seems more obviously funny because it kept showing the partner’s impatient expression. Anyways yea I don’t have a problem with any of these scenes, I just remember being kinda baffled when I first saw them, which in retrospect I kind of respect for how audacious the whole season was. Like there being so many dougie scenes made Cooper’s return even more impactful.
Rowan5215 07.12.18	hey Return fans: http://politicsslashletters.org/dreamer-twin-peaks-return/ ^ this is possibly the closest we'll ever get to a definitive take on the series. lays out the evidence cleanly and convincingly, identifies links, and doesn't make any unlikely reaches or jumps in logic that I can see. you may not like the conclusion it reaches but I think you'll have some trouble denying it :?
Egarran 07.12.18	Nice, thanks. I actually kind of feel a want to see this again.
hamid95 07.12.18	I can kinda dig the interpretation, much more so than some people thinking the end of The Return was a happy ending. Like any reading it reduces the material, but the writer seems to acknowledge that as he goes along.

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