Toad: SPUTNIK'S FAVE RAPPER: ROUND 2

Toad 04.26.17	ROUND 2 WITHOUT DELAY BABY voting will be open for two days, so sit back and chill if it's too fast-paced for ya thanks for the participation everyone
Toad 04.26.17	also: check the challonge bracket for a nice view http://challonge.com/sputnikmusicfavoriterapper
evilford 04.26.17	damn I see Guru goin out to ghostface rip
dbizzles 04.26.17	Wait, where's Kobe Bryant and Ben Roethlisberger???
dbizzles 04.26.17	Oh, misread the title.
Toad 04.26.17	round 2 and tons of rough matchups already
evilford 04.26.17	"Wait, where's Kobe Bryant and Ben Roethlisberger???" huehue
SteakByrnes 04.26.17	1. Andre 3000 3. DMX my boi 5. Pacman 8. Kendick Lamer 12. M&M Rest I don't even know
Keyblade 04.26.17	damn some of these are brutal. why did malice have to go against camron then big l. all my nominees are knocking each other out smh. anyway dre dog guru dmx biggie 2pac bun b big l odb lord finesse prodigy nas redman
butcherboy 04.26.17	1. Andre 3000 2. Guru (should win this, honestly) 3. GZA 4. Biggie 5. Lauryn (just to save her poor soul from a sweep) 6. Bun B 7. Malice 8. ODB 9. DOOOOOOOOOm 10. Prodigy 11. Nas 12. Redman (hate eminem) 13. Black thought 14. Chuck D 15. KRS 1 16. Mos Def
TVC15 04.26.17	Ol Dirty Bastard
Toad 04.26.17	Andre Guru GZA Earl 2Pac Bun B Big L Kendrick Doom Prodigy Nas Redman Q-Tip Chuck D KRS Raekwon
Drifter 04.26.17	Pac Eminem
Minushuman24 04.26.17	1. Andre 3000 2. ghostface 3. GZA 4. Biggie 5. Lauryn 6. Big Pun 7. No Malice 8. Kendrick 9. MF doom 10. Prodigy 11. Nas 12. Redman 13. q-tip 14. Chuck D 15 KRS 16. Mos Def
Keyblade 04.26.17	everyone voting for redman this is great
Drifter 04.26.17	Redman's coo
Drifter 04.26.17	He was on the newest snoop dogg song so he instantly became cooler
Toad 04.26.17	Updated
TVC15 04.26.17	ODB would eat Kendrick alive
Trundle 04.26.17	1. Andre 2. Guru 3. GZA 4. Biggie 5. 2pac 6. Big Pun 7. Big L 8. ODB 9. Lord Finesse 10. Prodigy 11. Nas 12. 13. Q-Tip 14. Masta Ace 15. KRS-One 16. Raekwon
Papa Universe 04.26.17	Andre 3000 Ghostface Killah DMX Earl Sweatshirt 2Pac Big Pun (shoulda been Daveed against Big Pun, but people have spoken, so whatever) Big L Kendrick Lamar MF DOOM Prodigy Nas Eminem Q-Tip Chuck D 10. Phife Dawg Mos Def
Rowan5215 04.26.17	my boy Earl goin down this round rip
Rowan5215 04.26.17	Andre Ghostface GZA Earl Pac ODB Nas Em Tip Rae (lowkey hardest match here)
AlexKzillion 04.26.17	1. Andre 3000 3. GZA 4. Earl 5. Lauryn Hill 8. Kendrick 10. Prodigy 11. Danny Brown 13. Black Thought 16. Mos Def I'll add the rest later after I check the guys I haven't heard.
Maniac! 04.26.17	1. Andre 3000 2. Ghostface 3. GZA 4. Notorious BIG 5. 2Pac 6. Bun B 7. Big L 8. Kendrick Lamar 9. MF Doom 10. 11. Nas 12. Eminem 13. Q-Tip 14. Chuck D 15. PHIFE DAWG 16. Raekwon
AlexKzillion 04.26.17	"ODB would eat Kendrick alive" I mean ODB is great and all but lol
Maniac! 04.26.17	Kendrick is a better songwriter.
pinniped 04.26.17	Andre Ghostface GZA Earl 2Pac Big Pun Big L Kendrick MF Doom Prodigy Nas Em Q-tip Chuck D Phife Dawg Mos Def
hikingmetalpunk 04.26.17	andre3000 gfk gza biggie smalls hill pun big l odb doom p nas red black thought chuck d krs one rae
Toad 04.26.17	updated
Toad 04.26.17	this is a ~no think zone~
butcherboy 04.26.17	this is going to be the dumbest shite possible if it turns out to be a biggie 2pac thing..
Toad 04.26.17	i doubt biggie will make it past the next round
BlushfulHippocrene 04.26.17	1. Andre 2. Ghostface 3. GZA 4. Biggie 5. Pac 6. Pun 7. Big L 8. Kendrick 9. DOOM 10. Gucci 11. Danny 12. Um... Em 13. Black Thought 14. Chuck 15. Phife 16. Mos
Toad 04.26.17	got it
evilford 04.26.17	Biggie should make it further than pac imo
demigod! 04.26.17	L
butcherboy 04.26.17	biggie [2]
porcupinetheater 04.26.17	1. Andre 2. Ghostface 3. DMX 4. Biggie 5. Lauryn Hill 8. Kendrick 9. MF Doom 11. Danny Brown 12. Redman 13. Q-Tip 14. Chuck D 15. Phife 16. Raekwon
ianblxdsoe 04.27.17	1. andre 2. ghostface 3. gza 4. you're killin me but prob earl tbh 5. 2pac 6. big pun 7. big l 8. shit prob kdot 9. mf doom 10. prodigy lol 11. danny brown 12. eminem 13. q-tip 14. chuck d 15. phife dawg 16. mos def
AlexKzillion 04.27.17	To fill out the ones I didn't pick earlier 2. Guru 6. Big Pun 7. Big L 9. MF Doom 12. Eminem 14. Masta Ace 15. KRS
Winesburgohio 04.27.17	Andre Ghostface GZA Earl Lauren Big Pun Big L Ol' Dirty easily Doom Gucci Danny Redman -- Chuck D -- Raekwon
Judio! 04.27.17	1. Andre 2. Ghostface 3. Gza 4. BIG 5. Pac 6. Big Pun 7. 8. Kendrick 9. 10. 11. Nas 12. Eminem 13. Q-Tip 14. --- 15. Phife Dawg 16. Mos Def (fuck that matchup)
L4titudes 04.27.17	Uhhhh where's Fred Durst??
evilford 04.27.17	petition to restart the tourney to add fred durts
evilford 04.27.17	Andre 3k Guru GZA Biggie Lauryn Hill Big Pun Big L Kendrick (love Wu-Tang but I feel like Kendrick has had a better solo career) Prodigy Nas Eminem Black Thought Masta Ace (damn he's gettin stomped rip) KRS-One Raekwon
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.27.17	damn, sad i missed the first one of these 1. andre 2. guru 3. gza 4. biggy 5. Lauryn Hill 6. Bun B 7. Big L 8. ODB 9. holy fuck this one is rough... ouch, but Lord Finesse 10. Prodigy 11. Nas 12. Redman 13. Q-Tip also rough 14. Chuck D 15. Phife 16. Mos Def a couple were rough, a lot were dumb and easy, was fun all around
Jasdevi087 04.27.17	I'll vote for real later but I just wanna drop in a vote for ODB rn so he isn't losing to Kendrick
AlexKzillion 04.27.17	My final two prediction is Andre 3000 vs. Q-Tip, but seeing Nas absolutely wreck Danny Brown makes me second guess that. Can't tell if it's just because he's faced Aesop and Kendrick but this ODB hype train has got me shoook
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.27.17	Nas is like the "i just bought my first weed pipe" of favorite rappers so yeah he will probably be sticking around
Toad 04.27.17	Andre's Division is pretty easy comparitively (Biggie and GZA are decent threats but relative to the rest of the map, eh) so he'll probably make semis. Anything could happen in Division D, it seems kind of stacked. The other two are spottier, no idea what will happen there either. EDIT: well doom or nas will probably come of of C. B is weird though
butcherboy 04.27.17	I'm sort of banking on Doom going to the finals, though I know it's very unlikely.. also watching Guru lose this round will be heartbreaking..
evilford 04.27.17	sad that guru is losing and that masta ace is getting bodied so bad
Jasdevi087 04.27.17	Ace is getting fucking rinsed lmao
evilford 04.27.17	can't help but wonder how many people who voted chuck d haven't heard ace
Toad 04.27.17	Updated Two ties wow, quite a few close matches and a handful of blowouts
Minushuman24 04.27.17	I'm sad to see that Lauryn Hill is going to get knocked out
Toad 04.27.17	three points isn't unmanageable. but yeah she's probably gone
AlexKzillion 04.27.17	I was just bitching about Masta Ace beating Kool AD in the other thread but then I checked some of Ace's stuff and was like ehhhhhh idk if I'd put up much of an argument against it......
Toad 04.27.17	I definitely underseeded Phife but all the other ones have been alright so far - next round will be pretty close for many of the matches i think
evilford 04.27.17	ace has great flow and is a lyrical genius imo
AlexKzillion 04.27.17	R.I.P like everyone on here who made it big post-2004. Shoulda known it would have been like all golden age guys aside from mayyybbeee Kendrick
Toad 04.27.17	Alex you're right, but I think we'll see that change in the coming years with a handful of modern artists. If Danny brown releases another excellent record he'll gain the traction to edge into the canon too. Earl has potential for that as well, he's just not as driven to make great records. Vince's career is young but he has a shot. Kanye will always be known as a producer before a lyricist. Ugly mane is another maybe.
TVC15 04.27.17	Smfh at ODB losing Also I vote Lauryn Hill
Toad 04.27.17	To Kendrick? ODB is great but Kendrick is the defining 2010's rapper unless something drastic happens
butcherboy 04.27.17	Loving that mos def Raekwon deadheat
AlexKzillion 04.27.17	ODB is beating Kendrick 9-7 right now
Toad 04.27.17	Clearly not whatever you're smoking sach, which I trust is *quality stuff In this universe, however, kendrick is the definitive 10's rapper
AlexKzillion 04.27.17	I'd say Drake over Kendrick in that regard because he is more representative of where the genre has gone and what it sounds like today, where as Kendrick I feel is kinda like a throwback to a time where quality albums/great lyricism/messages really mattered or w/e
TVC15 04.27.17	"ODB is beating Kendrick 9-7 right now" Current Score: XII to IX
AlexKzillion 04.27.17	IX is 9 dumbass Jk I love you Christ
Toad 04.27.17	I was actually just thinking that Drake would be arguable as well just from a popularity and pop music influence standpoint, especially because so many artists have copped the sing-rapping he popularized (even though Kanye's 808s seems more influential in that regard)
TVC15 04.27.17	No XII is 12
evilford 04.27.17	what ever happened to friendly conversations
AlexKzillion 04.27.17	Wait fuck I thought Kendrick was losing like the whole entire time nvm, coulda swore it said VII the whole time my bad
AlexKzillion 04.27.17	But back on the Drake thing, Drake has also had a knack for riding other's waves in the past, and I can't think of a semi-popular movement this decade he hasn't made a track in the style of, aside from like the industrial stuff
Toad 04.27.17	Your Kendrick analysis sounds more like a conspiracy theory than anything else tbh, like every artist I'm sure he receives some direction from industry heads but you take it to an extreme that denies him any semblance of authenticity, which seems really unwarranted. I don't disagree with your each man for a subscene view but that doesn't mean you can't generalize, especially when one artist has an unrivaled combination of critical and popular approval over the target era being discussed
AlexKzillion 04.27.17	"6am in Chicago feat. Lil Durk" coming soon
AlexKzillion 04.27.17	Kendrick's real really really real
Toad 04.27.17	'definitive value' what does that even mean Also how is Kendrick fake? A bad case of holden caulfield perspective if I've ever seen one
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.27.17	Is j cole a faker nigga than Kendrick?
AlexKzillion 04.27.17	Kendrick Lamar By far Realest negus alive
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.27.17	why roman numerals
Toad 04.27.17	Easier to tally votes when updating
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.27.17	ur a smart guy toad thats why i hate u
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.27.17	i mean love you
Toad 04.27.17	'conscious' users make me sick
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.27.17	they make me woke personally
Toad 04.27.17	God damn it I'm going to bed, it's past my bedtime anyway
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.27.17	night mom
Typhoon24 04.27.17	andre GFK GZA Biggie 2pac Bun B Big L ODB DOOM Prodigy Nas Redman Black Thought Masta Ace KRS Raek
Jasdevi087 04.27.17	3 stack Biggie Lauryn Hill (I'm assuming you counted my ODB vote) Nas Ace but lol RIP KRS-One Raekwon
Jasdevi087 04.27.17	Kendrick Lamar was invented by the record companies to sell Kendrick Lamar CDs
Jasdevi087 04.27.17	well, evidently you can, since he did
Jasdevi087 04.27.17	you can do that as well
Jasdevi087 04.27.17	that was actually directed at your post above that one, you are correct about your second point
hal1ax 04.27.17	nickatina guwop
hal1ax 04.27.17	and bun b i guess
0GuyMan0 04.27.17	voting Andre, Kendrick, Lauryn Hill.
Keyblade 04.27.17	"y'all should spend a week on the streets and wake up to yoselves" lol
Toad 04.27.17	Kendrick grew up in low income housing and talks about the pressures associated with that. You don't have to do an action yourself to see the effects it has on the environment around you, and then write about it. Goddam son Also "you can't rap about racism and discrimination when your fanbase//income-base is made up of those you're accusing" is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. That's EXACTLY what an ideal artist would strive to do - communicate a message of criticism to those that need to take it.
Winesburgohio 04.27.17	kendrick is so bad imo i just do not understand, and there's a weird assumption that people don't like him are smug contrarians but i want to get him!!! god knows i've tried!!!! but it just does nothing for me except, at worst, genuinely irritate me idk
Winesburgohio 04.27.17	whatever the case ODB is incredible
Toad 04.27.17	different left strokes for different folks
MO 04.27.17	ghostface
TVC15 04.27.17	Give that vote to ODB
Toad 04.27.17	updated aaaaaand sach has been wiped again, pour one out
Typhoon24 04.27.17	im just happy that 12 is close. too many people sleep on redman and he's em's favorite rapper.
DikkoZinner 04.27.17	GZA - Big Pun - Big L - ODB - Nas - Redman - Black Thought - Knowledge Reigns Supreme
DikkoZinner 04.27.17	"he's em's favorite rapper." Good point
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.27.17	That's not saying much
Conmaniac 04.27.17	The Notorious BIG 2Pac Nas Kendrick
TVC15 04.27.17	Con have you ever heard ODB tho
Toad 04.27.17	Updooted
Conmaniac 04.27.17	nah and i don't really care
Keyblade 04.27.17	bruh
Havey 04.27.17	bun b odb phife gucci
Typhoon24 04.27.17	as much as i love bun b (even though i thought pun was nicer on the mic), UGK was bigger than all of pun's shit so that's how i justify it haha. and i fucking love big pun
Toad 04.27.17	updated
chinesewhispers 04.28.17	Andre Ghostface GZA Earl Lauryn Pun Big L Kendrick DOOM Prodigy Nas Tie Black Thought Masta Ace Phife Mos
Toad 04.28.17	updated
Keyblade 04.28.17	what is the thought process that goes into voting earl sweatshirt
Toad 04.28.17	personally speaking, i know he's not a better or more influential rapper, but i just enjoy his flow, lyrics and music more
Rowan5215 04.28.17	he's one of the best lyricists in the game for a start
TVC15 04.28.17	"nah and i don't really care" omfg
wub 04.28.17	3k guru DMX Notorious B.I.G. 2pac Bun B Big L ODB Doom God Unity Wisdom Opportunity Power, our lord and saviour the hybrid Red Q-tip Chuck D KRS-One Raekwon i am not proud of myself.
Conmaniac 04.28.17	i'll gives ODB a chance sometime just not now hence the Kendrick vote
0GuyMan0 04.28.17	Ghostface, DMX, Eminem, Biggy, Chuck D, KRS-One
Toad 04.28.17	updated. 6.5 more hours til Round 3
DikkoZinner 04.28.17	Redman at his peak rips 'em all
Lavair 04.28.17	I haven't listened to the vast, VAST majority of these so here we go Andre 3000 Ghostface Killah GZA Earl Sweatshirt Q-Tip Chuck D Phife Dawg Raekwon (would've voted for Del but he was voted out immediately) Lauryn Hill (reason for not voting 2Pac: WHO won a Grammy?) Big Pun Big L Kendrick Lamar (WHY DID AESOP ROCK GET VOTED OUT) MF Doom Prodigy Danny Brown Eminem
GeorgeWBush 04.28.17	Not a big rap fan, but here ya go. Andre 3000 The Notorious B.I.G. Kendrick Lamar MF DOOM Nas Mos Def
Toad 04.28.17	updated just over half an hour to vote yall a couple of VERY close matches
evilford 04.28.17	I like how that guy said he hasn't heard the vast majority of these and then proceeds to vote on every matchup lol
Toad 04.28.17	with great power comes great, uh, power
Keyblade 04.28.17	i love lauryn, but really? she's gonna blow out pac?
TVC15 04.28.17	ODB losing to Kendrick is honestly fucked
Toad 04.28.17	CLOSED next list coming v soon
Keyblade 04.28.17	"ODB losing to Kendrick is honestly fucked" was it ever in doubt tho
evilford 04.28.17	Not surprising