SCREAM!: Classical and shit

SCREAM! 08.09.16	So still don't really know what I'm doing but I'm enjoying the experience so far regardless
Ocean of Noise 08.09.16	Check Schoenberg
hal1ax 08.09.16	Hmm. Maybe check -- Debussy / Ravel / Chopin / Scriabin / and maaybe Gubaidulina
Ocean of Noise 08.09.16	Never heard of Gubaidulina but the other four there rule.
Ocean of Noise 08.09.16	Also Mahler if you're up for it ;)
zaruyache 08.09.16	Could never really get into "classical" classical, but modern classical is lovely. Especially when they start messing around with ambient, post-rock, and drone.
iloveyouall 08.09.16	where's the classical? xD
Ocean of Noise 08.09.16	Well, Beethoven is from the Classical period... But yeah, list needs more Mozart and Haydn agreed
hal1ax 08.09.16	and if u want to explore some bizarre shit : Krzysztof Penderecki / mauricio kagel / Bernard Parmegiani
SCREAM! 08.09.16	"where's the classical? xD" I know most of these are from the romantic period but I was under the impression that all fell under the classical "blanket". I mean, correct me if I'm wrong here. "Hmm. Maybe check -- Debussy / Ravel / Chopin / Scriabin / and maaybe Gubaidulina " I've heard a bit of Chopin (some of his Polonaises). Will check the rest though!
ReminiscentOfAWhale 08.09.16	there's a diff between classical and Classical
ReminiscentOfAWhale 08.09.16	Glad to hear you're giving it a shot SCREAM. I used to find classical super dull until I took some music history classes and now I can really appreciate it. But aside from the historical knowledge, I think just general exposure certainly will help
Sinternet 08.09.16	is Modest Mussorgsky an Isaac Brock side project?
SCREAM! 08.09.16	"there's a diff between classical and Classical" Classical the period and Classical the genre, right? The genre encompassing that period along with others (Baroque, Romantic, Impressionism, etc)? I have been enjoying most of what I've been listening to so far, the only thing is (even after having heard a piece a few times), I'm finding it hard to actually remember/differentiate between them.
hal1ax 08.09.16	ya that's to be expected. the more you explore different styles, the less muddled and equivocal they will become
ReminiscentOfAWhale 08.09.16	That's exactly it scream except that classical is even broader than genre. And I'd say the easiest way to learn to differentiate would be by looking at different genres, which you're already doing, and different composer' styles as hal1ax said, which takes more time
Sinternet 08.09.16	i need to check more classical i like a lot of modern japanese composers like hisaishi and other stuff like philip glass
ReminiscentOfAWhale 08.09.16	Ooh yeah, a great way to transition into enjoying later opera and program symphony is to listen to film music. They share a lot of qualities. For instance, if you learn how to identify leitmotiv use and how it progresses through the story in a film, which can be fascinating, then you can do the same in classical music
hal1ax 08.09.16	sint u might like , tomoyoshi date - otoha
ScuroFantasma 08.09.16	"Found a vinyl box set with all 9 symphonies for dirt cheap at a thrift shop. Score m/" Is this something all thrift shops must have before opening? My local store has shelves overflowing with old classical on vinyl, and nowhere in a 200k radius sells them new. Anyway I'm not very well versed in a clasical but I enjoy it occasionally. 1-4 are really cool.
SCREAM! 08.09.16	5 is one of my favourites so far so I'd highly recommend you have a listen when you feel like hearing some more
ReminiscentOfAWhale 08.09.16	Dug up an old notebook because I had circled some of the pieces that I liked as an entry-level listener of classical music: Bach- BWV 543 His prelude and fugue in A minor. The Van Halen of the Baroque going nuts with his feet and fuguing arpeggios for dayz Mendelssohn- Op 64 A very dramatic violin concerto. Mendelssohn was a true Bach-liever. Music history is littered with these folks. Liszt- S 144 A concert etude, so basically an exercise polished for performance. Liszt was like the very first rock star—huge stage ego; music professors hate him. More arpeggios. So just a few examples of very accessible classical pieces for anyone who maybe is less daring than SCREAM! I suppose if you've already listened to entire ballets and symphonies, then you might not need this, but I enjoyed my nostalgic trip nonetheless. They are considered "classics" with historical significance I can't remember too vividly. Mendelssohn's violin concerto is still one of my favs to this day.
SCREAM! 08.09.16	I've enjoyed the ballets and the symphonies but those more accessible pieces might be what I need to help me build my understanding of the genre a little more. Thanks, I'll definitely check them out!
ReminiscentOfAWhale 08.09.16	SCREAM! a symphony I'd specifically recommend for you is Symphonie Fantastique by Berlioz. It's incredible and one of the biggest game-changers in the Romantic era so it's a classical staple along with many of the one's you've listed
hal1ax 08.09.16	oh dude scream u need Dvorak's symphony 9. u will love
iloveyouall 08.09.16	lol dvorak sucks check some von bingen and bach. go from there.
Ocean of Noise 08.09.16	Basically listen to everything Bach ever wrote
Ocean of Noise 08.09.16	Yeah Bingen is sweet too. She was a medieval composer though so her music is pretty different
ReminiscentOfAWhale 08.09.16	And if you want to start at the beginning, go back and listen to some homophonic, boring-ass gregorian chant. Then you can appreciate how far music has come
Sinternet 08.09.16	jam greensleeves m/
iloveyouall 08.09.16	wait, classical... maybe check mono or thee silver mt. godspeed
ReminiscentOfAWhale 08.09.16	WHAT WE LOVED WAS NOT ENOUGH
Shadowmire 08.09.16	listen to some schubert and mahler if you feel like it. also really spend some time listening to some of beethoven's later works like the hammerklavier and the diabelli variations. oh and maybe shostakovich if you like stravinsky (pretty far beyond the classical period at this point) i had a bit of classical rated five years ago when i made one of my only comments on the site and i got arbitrarily flamed for listening to it
ReminiscentOfAWhale 08.09.16	And yeah post-rock often has symphonic orchestration so if you can dig one you can probably dig the other
ReminiscentOfAWhale 08.09.16	shadowmire if he listens to too much Russian he might become a communist
hal1ax 08.09.16	how does dvorak suck i will fucking kill u
Keyblade 08.09.16	dude check Mozart's Clarinet Concerto
Sevengill 08.09.16	did my comment get deleted what the heck this still shows up in my list of threads too
ScuroFantasma 08.09.16	"And if you want to start at the beginning, go back and listen to some homophonic, boring-ass gregorian chant. Then you can appreciate how far music has come" You say that, but some of those early pieces are pretty damn cool. Polyphony is where thing start getting much more interesting, but Gregorian chant is the basis from which all Western music theory is derived, and in fact the ideas conceived then are still being taught. Pretty amazing when you consider that, especially the Grecian understanding of how ratio effects notes etc. It's fascinating, and in the beginning this was all performed with the human voice.
SCREAM! 08.09.16	I've enjoyed Gregorian chants used within the context of other musical styles (metal, electronic, new age, etc) but have never actually sought out any pure Gregorian chant music. Not sure I'm ready to dive that deep into it just yet
SCREAM! 08.09.16	"did my comment get deleted what the heck this still shows up in my list of threads too" I didn't delete any comments (or if I did it was done accidentally and I didn't notice). Couldn't tell you what happened
Sevengill 08.09.16	"Polyphony is where thing start getting much more interesting, but Gregorian chant is the basis from which all Western music theory is derived, and in fact the ideas conceived then are still being taught." [2] It actually gets really complex and is beautifully done. Good call.
Atari 08.09.16	check Franz Schubert if you haven't
Sevengill 08.09.16	Berlioz (Fantastique, Grand Messe de Morts) and Mahler (Symph. 2 & 8) are my personal favorites.
Sinternet 08.09.16	nothing wrong with a bit of friendly communism
ReminiscentOfAWhale 08.09.16	Gregorian chant was certainly hella impressive at the time. I just don't really dig it outside of its historical significance, when there's so much other classical music. Glad to hear some do though
Sevengill 08.09.16	yeah like it's not on my youtube playlists but I'm glad it was included in my music appreciation classes.
ScuroFantasma 08.10.16	Oh man, why couldnt I have a musical appreciation class. I had to wait til University to hear chant. But yeah I'm with you guys, it's not like it's a go to jam, but some of its pretty haunting, moving, other adjectives. There's some modern bands that use chant/throat singing etc. in some intersting ways though. https://the-all-seeing-hand.bandcamp.com/album/mechatronics Check these guys out. Not Gregorian chant, it's like ambient electronic stuff with Tuvan throat singing, but it works in a similar way.
miketunneyiscool123 08.10.16	Patrick Star: YAAAAAAAY E MINOOOOOOR!!!!
ScuroFantasma 08.10.16	lol