TheGreatQ
10.02.15 | "folk metal, through its lyrics and stage clothes centred on myths of warriors, preserves an old-fashioned power structure where white, male Europeans are superior." |
ZombicidalMan
10.02.15 | "with folk metal representing the worst excesses of the heavy metal stereotype" I guess these researchers thought NSBM was too easy a target |
trve
10.02.15 | lmao |
MistaCrave
10.02.15 | Trve... It's no NSBM though |
TheGreatQ
10.02.15 | "I guess these researchers thought NSBM was too easy a target"
This was the very first thought I had when reading this. |
Mystletainn
10.02.15 | Sigh... What isn't offensive nowadays? this is click bait at its finest. |
trve
10.02.15 | p sure he's actually called adolf spracklen, likes burning refugee camps and abusing his wife and uses this legit research to hide that |
SCREAM!
10.02.15 | How dare they not sing about all the black, hispanic and asian vikings smh |
Asdfp277
10.02.15 | they sing in english,
the cultural appropriation is strong in this one |
LepreCon
10.02.15 | Isn't everything racist and/or sexist these days? My life will never change-
Fuck bitches, get money |
Alastor
10.02.15 | "popular heavy metal band Guns n Roses"
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Mystletainn
10.03.15 | This was written by someone at a university and it's easily the dumbest thing I've read in a while smh.
Calling GnR's heavy metal is more offensive than any of the points this person is trying to bring up. |
Illoomorpheme
10.03.15 | CELEBRATING CULTURE IS GREAT, BUT RACIST WHEN WHITE PEOPLE DO IT. |
Supercoolguy64
10.03.15 | girls like folk-metal, thus showing how man-oriented and misogynistic the genre is |
Gameofmetal
10.03.15 | rofl omg |
Asdfp277
10.03.15 | "Calling GnR's heavy metal is more offensive than any of the points this person is trying to bring up" lol |
Friday13th
10.03.15 | "This was written by someone at a university and it's easily the dumbest thing I've read in a while smh."
As a university student, I would only be surprised if it weren't coming from a university professor. Other people would not waste their time trying to create problems where they don't exist. |
SCREAM!
10.03.15 | "Other people would not waste their time trying to create problems where they don't exist."
#genderstudies |
Asdfp277
10.03.15 | This level of disconnect with folk metal culture can also only be explained by the age and out-of-touch lifestyle of university professors |
Friday13th
10.03.15 | tell them bob dylan lovin' baby boomers that THE TIMES THEY ARE A CHANGINNNNNNN XD |
Friday13th
10.03.15 | @SCREAM I never took the class. I didn't meet the prerequisites...mind dumping my critical reasoning :X You didn't hear it from me, though! haha |
Asdfp277
10.03.15 | "imagined and imaginary communities" |
basikchanL
10.03.15 | folk metal sux |
MistaCrave
10.03.15 | nah |
MistaCrave
10.03.15 | Except for post-grey atmospheric folk shoegaze drone. |
ScuroFantasma
10.03.15 | Folk metal is great, both 1 and 2 rule |
MistaCrave
10.03.15 | Fuck you Sach, PGAFSD is my fav genre and if you don't care for my cosmic trems and singularity blasts then you can eff off |
ScuroFantasma
10.03.15 | That article is about the biggest piece of bullshit pretending to be well informed I've read this year |
SCREAM!
10.03.15 | "I like some slam/brutal death here or there"
You're starting to sound like me in a noise thread ;) |
Zanareth
10.03.15 | "heavy metal can be seen to normalise masculinity and ‘whiteness’"
""""""""""normalize masculinity"""""""""" |
Cygnatti
10.03.15 | Ima lone and solitary metalhead so I have no clue what the scenes are
What're NSBM dudes like and are they qt??
And if folk metalheads aren't like this article suggests, what are they like? :] |
ScuroFantasma
10.03.15 | ""heavy metal can be seen to normalise masculinity and ‘whiteness’"
""""""""""normalize masculinity""""""""""
Yeah implying those things aren't normal. The kind of double standards most of these kinds of writings are full of. |
BallsToTheWall
10.03.15 | How dare they not sing about all the black, hispanic and asian vikings smh (2) |
Keyblade
10.03.15 | lol nobody even takes folk metal that seriously, it's all fantasy anyway. dead @ trying to make a social commentary on folk metal |
InFlamesWeThrash666
10.03.15 | Check Burzum. Antifa music ftw |
zaruyache
10.03.15 | the majority of musical genres in existence perpetuate the whole masculine superiority thing. This itself isn't anything new, though it does bring up a lot of issues in heavy metal, and shows how far we need to go in regards to outreach to women and non-white groups, but that's not to say the thing's inherently racist or anything. That'd be like calling RnB or hip hop anti-white. I'll try actually reading this article when I'm more sober thx. |
BandNewbac
10.03.15 | folk metal as a whole makes me pretty bored, i enjoy some tho |
BandNewbac
10.03.15 | also, i just woke up from a dream where i was swimming in a sewidge disposal dam because i was hiding from these weird mutant like females wearing burzum shirts, so i guess thats kinda related. |
ScuroFantasma
10.03.15 | You mutantist |
ScuroFantasma
10.03.15 | lol nobody even takes folk metal that seriously, it's all fantasy anyway. dead @ trying to make a social commentary on folk metal [2]
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DoctorGreen
10.03.15 | The Frog is in the Dish.
But I don't eat Tv. |
Gwyn.
10.03.15 | "What're NSBM dudes like and are they qt??"
I think this question kinda answer itself once you realize what NSBM stands for
But some of them aren't too bad looking yeah |
ScuroFantasma
10.03.15 | lol |
Asdfp277
10.03.15 | I think this question kinda answer itself once you realize what NSBM stands for [2] lmao |
zaruyache
10.03.15 | i mean if you dig the shaved head look then they might be your type |
Asdfp277
10.03.15 | 3edgy5me shitheads aren't my type tbh |
zaruyache
10.03.15 | that awkward moment when they're not *trying* to be edgy... they're serious. |
Snake.
10.03.15 | "Girls only date assholes!!!!!", the genre |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.03.15 | i dont think anyone ever didnt realize that a lot of european black metal and its subgenres in general are racist and sexist as fuck its just that no one fucking cares
not that i dont disagree with racism and sexism but its music and its gimmicks and it doesnt matter if it bothers u just dont listen |
Asdfp277
10.03.15 | but they're talking about FOLK metal, which makes this not only completely unnecessary but also wrong and even more pointless |
Valkyrion
10.03.15 | >Folk Metal Is Racist and Sexist
who cares |
Cygnatti
10.03.15 | yeah it's a bit odd to specify folk metal, which, imo, is one of the more innocuous forms of popular-ish metal genres |
CynicalComplex
10.03.15 | Feminists care because there's good money to be made by "researching" the "problem." |
Cygnatti
10.03.15 | "I think this question kinda answer itself once you realize what NSBM stands for"
i honestly thought that nsbm stood for "new school black metal" just as osdm = "old school death metal" so that was really really bad on my part x_x x.x |
Ocean of Noise
10.03.15 | there are many things wrong with Folk Metal but racism and sexism are not among them |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.03.15 | "Feminists care because there's good money to be made by "researching" the "problem.""
discrediting the authenticity of the feminism by rationalizing it as a money-maker let me guess you are cisgender hetero male who subscribes so fully to the patriarchy you are spoon-fed every day that you think feminism is just a bunch of raging man-hating lesbos |
Asdfp277
10.03.15 | yeah let's ignore valid criticisms of mainstream feminist con-acts lest somebody hears feminism /might/ have the slightest problem within its community |
Confucius
10.03.15 | I hope the mods delete this list because I've never felt so triggered in my life |
zaruyache
10.03.15 | metal is pretty much exclusively played by white men. May have been drunk when I wrote that, but it still stands, u fkrs. |
zaruyache
10.03.15 | I don't even understand why you would suggest such a nonsensical thing like that. White men suggesting that hispanics should play indian instruments? Wat? Spreading music to different cultural/social groups not stereotypically associated with those genres in the first place is good for those genres; that's the point being made. Not that we should tell random cultural groups to adopt the native musical influences of a third unrelated group. |
Asdfp277
10.03.15 | What he said is that this problem is VERY prevalent in p. much everywhere yet it only seems to pop up in conversations and discourse to demonize metalheads
But it's very myopic to claim that there's nothing wrong with women not wanting to participate in the metal community without further investigating into the context
Ugh, discussion might turn ugly fast |
zaruyache
10.03.15 | yeah except it's often a pretty hostile environment for non-white dudes, which discourages other groups from wanting anything to do with it. |
Asdfp277
10.03.15 | Spado: Prove it |
zaruyache
10.03.15 | It's well-established fact that everyone likes metal. Different societal factors discourage groups from coming to acknowledge this fact, however, which is something that should be worked toward correcting. |
Asdfp277
10.03.15 | "It's well-established fact that everyone likes metal"
oh
my god |
zaruyache
10.03.15 | ^_^ Metal is trvth. Be you not a heathen, ye best agree. |
Asdfp277
10.03.15 | Metal is literally the worst genre of music after classical and ambient |
zaruyache
10.04.15 | wasn't trollin till the end actually :---^----D |
ScuroFantasma
10.04.15 | Folk metal bands more than most other metal bands are full of female musician |
Asdfp277
10.04.15 | Isn't Eluveitie like the most popular folk metal band like...? |
ScuroFantasma
10.04.15 | I guess so |
