huskerdoo: do aliens exist?

huskerdoo 07.21.15	fermi paradox ?? or do i believe
Aftertheascension 07.21.15	yes
huskerdoo 07.21.15	proof..?
Aftertheascension 07.21.15	the fuck is this big ass universe here for if we are the only ones here?
huskerdoo 07.21.15	you've opened my eyes, friend
Snake. 07.21.15	ascension is actually right about something for once
BigHans 07.21.15	2 rules hard
Aftertheascension 07.21.15	fuck off
DominionMM1 07.21.15	5 is goat
insanedrexl1 07.21.15	yes they are real.
Ryus 07.21.15	its very very probable
DrMaximus 07.21.15	Maybe, maybe not. /thread
Ryus 07.21.15	1 is a classic
Aftertheascension 07.21.15	horrible thread
Crymsonblaze 07.21.15	almost certainly
RadicalEd 07.21.15	probably but they are likely so far away that we will never make contact with them.
wacknizzle 07.21.15	5 is goat [2]
RadicalEd 07.21.15	No. Goat is Goat.
huskerdoo 07.21.15	ur mums a goat
deathschool 07.21.15	More like bae-liens
huskerdoo 07.21.15	another pressing Q... would you bang all the aliens?
FacelessMan 07.21.15	maybe, maybe not, maybe fuck yourself
deathschool 07.21.15	"another pressing Q... would you bang all the aliens?" Duh
BandNewbac 07.21.15	it's simply ignorant to assume that judging by the size of the universe, there is no other life out there.
huskerdoo 07.21.15	u ever travellled the universe bro? yeh thought not
evilford 07.21.15	yes
MuhNamesTyler 07.21.15	if aliens weren't real then where would they get all the ideas for tv and stories
huskerdoo 07.21.15	name ONE alien director
evilford 07.21.15	james cameron
huskerdoo 07.21.15	touche fellas
DropdeadWHA 07.21.15	highly likely.
romulanrancor 07.21.15	yep defo for real homes
KrazyKris 07.21.15	Haven't we discussed that already a few weeks ago? Yes, they most likely exist and no, I don't care where, what, who or why they are. Don't know why everyone's so curious about what's up there in the sky anyway. Who cares?
huskerdoo 07.21.15	you might care when they're having their way w/ ur woman n other loved ones (family)
KrazyKris 07.21.15	Yeah, I'm sure they only exist to some day screw us and our loved ones. How's the probability for that?
huskerdoo 07.21.15	p. damn high i assure you
KrazyKris 07.21.15	proof..?
huskerdoo 07.21.15	english imperials.. check mate..
Feather 07.21.15	When this idea was first studied it was thought that their were only two planetary requirements. Water and atmosphere. The think was then, out of the estimated billions of planets, there must be another planet with life similar to ours. Over time the planetary requirements list grew and grew now with over 100 criteria. Many of them are obscure things that we don't even think about like Jupiter shielding the inner planets of our solar system from astroids because of its strong gravitational pull. Some scientists now approximate the chances of there being another planet with carbon based life as very low.
KrazyKris 07.21.15	Who says it has to be carbon based?
MuhNamesTyler 07.21.15	you have to b e l i e v e
Feather 07.21.15	@krazyzkris some people do. I was going to add that you can really broaden the scope by imagining silicon based lifeforms or life using ammonia instead of water or really anything. I just left that part out because most people when disscussing aliens inherently picture them fairly similar to life as we know it.
danielito19 07.21.15	feather with the only actual post in the thread, nice one geezer
Asdfp277 07.21.15	i do
sonictheplumber 07.21.15	psyop
CoolCalmJoe 07.21.15	if you take enough cough syrup you can merge with the four dimension and talk to aliens
PayneTiger777 07.21.15	Yes there are aliens, but Commander Shepard and the Reapers destroyed the relay's used to go from galaxy to galaxy, so now there is no way of communicating with them again.
SparkToBelieve 07.21.15	no.
DikkoZinner 07.21.15	Prob
Gwyn. 07.21.15	All possible forms of life needing the same requirements for living as humans/animals do doesn't sound very likely
puntugruhm 07.21.15	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icemZCTrUWE
MuhNamesTyler 07.21.15	I bet that dog gets the best snacks
TheGreatQ 07.21.15	HEY MOM THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE BACKROOM
Clumseee 06.19.19	i think so
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	fermi paradox is kind of egoist imo in that it doesnt take into account the scale of the universe size or time wise comparing our existence to a speck of dust does not do it's insignificance proper justice it would be a miracle if we made contact, not a paradox that we haven't
Demon of the Fall 06.19.19	After almost 4 whole years Clumsee has the answer, what a guy.
Egarran 06.19.19	Dude, look in the mirror. Humans are obviously aliens here.
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	oh good bump
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	https://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html this is why you dont see aliens
Egarran 06.19.19	The Bootes Void is obviously a galactic Dyson Sphere empire.
Ryus 06.19.19	come back huskerdoo
Demon of the Fall 06.19.19	For the record I agree with chuck... 'it would be a miracle if we made contact, not a paradox that we haven't' I believe 'they' probably do exist, some sort of life-form/entity anyway, not necessarily carbon-based, or anything the human mind could necessarily imagine. Whether we find these life-forms or not is another matter, and just because we haven't (or may not, ever) doesn't mean shit.
StrikeOfTheBeast 06.19.19	Yes. They exist, and Trump is planning to eliminate them. XD
rockandmetaljunkie 06.19.19	chuck, this program is fantastic
DoofDoof 06.19.19	Other life exists in the universe right now as we type no doubt, but by alien life I guess we're excluding the most simple forms of life? I think aliens have or will exist but not necessarily at the same time as humans. Humans have been around a couple of hundred thousand years and realistically we might be around from anything between a hundred and another few thousand you'd think. That's a really small amount of time in terms of the universe. Considering complex life would appear to be very rare from our understanding we may not overlap with anything you'd call an alien.
Gyromania 06.19.19	Door's got it. Plus, if it did exist far outside of our view of the universe, it would likely be impossible for us to ever come in contact.
Gyromania 06.19.19	Surprised to see someone mention Bootes Void in this discussion. Definitely one of the strangest things we've observed in the universe. Seems terrifying that there'd be do much empty space.
Hawks 06.19.19	Didn’t realize Sputnik had so many rocket scientists, who knew????
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	100 thousand million stars in a typical galaxy 1 hundred billion galaxies in the ~observable~ universe they are alive now, just out of range, forever
rockandmetaljunkie 06.19.19	I think alien life does exist somewhere in the universe, but not in the form that we imagine, but in the form of bacteria, etc The chances of an anthropomorphic life form (Hollywood aliens) are very slim as there are thousands of criteria that need to be fulfilled, for such a planet to exist and house such a life form (even if it is just bacteria). And keep in mind we're not 100% sure that the laws of physics apply outside our solar system. So there is no way to be completely sure of anything. Most scientists insist that it was a miracle how life came to be on our little blue planet. And personally, I share that opinion.
Gyromania 06.19.19	Lol Hawks Astronomy isn't rocket science. That's a part of how we get places and obviously none of us can do the math to build a fucking rocket but that's irrelevant to the discussion. Based on what we know of the universe even the lowliest simpleton could make some inferences about the universe. Based on how far we can currently see, if life existed beyond it we could assert with near certainty that it'd be impossible to make contact
DoofDoof 06.19.19	dunno, the more they find out about the Earth and other solar systems the more this planet seems like a one in a few billion deal :/ then you factor in the time issue I described above and just maybe they don't exist right now - as difficult to believe as that may be
BigBlob 06.19.19	rockethawks
Hawks 06.19.19	Yeah I was just being a dick lol.
rockandmetaljunkie 06.19.19	"I think aliens have or will exist but not necessarily at the same time as humans" ...or in the same universe for that matter
Gyromania 06.19.19	I don't believe in miracles. I think that given enough time, virtually anything is possible. We didn't just spring into existence, it was an incredibly long process of evolution. And yes, it is spectacular and a complete mindfuck, but the actual science and hypotheses behind it are far more interesting. Anyone read Darwin's works?
DoofDoof 06.19.19	Anyone watching The Planets on BBC with Prof Brian Cox? That is my pleb level of understanding of planet formation but have to admit some of it is pretty mind blowing as I haven't been keeping up with this sphere of knowledge over the last couple of decades
rockandmetaljunkie 06.19.19	"if aliens weren't real then where would they get all the ideas for tv and stories" so...light sabers, blasters & Jedi's do exist in some sorta way, somewhere... what a happy thought it's not that we have a thing called, imagination, which was basically the very reason along with curiosity that got us into space exploration
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	divide "one in a few billion" by the total or more accurately, look up how often they believe earth like planets arise per solar system and divide that by the total spoiler alert - you get a big number
rockandmetaljunkie 06.19.19	"Anyone read Darwin's works?" I have read some of his work, some years back. I think most of his theories are debunked, though.
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	natural selection is not debunked
rockandmetaljunkie 06.19.19	there are some objections though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objections_to_evolution https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2018/09/darwin-evolution-crispr-microbiome-bacteria-news/ https://www.wired.com/2014/12/fantastically-wrong-thing-evolution-darwin-really-screwed/
DoofDoof 06.19.19	...although sput does provide some contrary evidence
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	>objections to evolution bruh
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	as someone with a master of science degree i can confidently tell you no educated mind in science objects to natural selection
DoofDoof 06.19.19	'earth like planets' they're finding that more and more of the time earth like planets aren't all they're cracked up to be 'spoiler alert - you get a big number' not necessarily when you factor the lifespan of the universe into it too - and the fact that for intelligent life humans have been perhaps very fortunate not to have been destroyed or destroyed ourselves yet. We might be the lucky exception on that front too. Less intelligent life (like our dinosaurs) is maybe more likely than stuff as intelligent as humans.
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	individuals in a population with useful traits will more often than not reproduce, yes? thats all natural selection is the only people arguing against it are religious folk
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	"not necessarily when you factor the lifespan of the universe into it too" um no if you literally do the math its a big number but i cant expect you to be willing or capable of following the logic
DoofDoof 06.19.19	just saying when you factor in a one in a few billion chance with another factor in a few billion chance the likelihood of aliens right now diminishes bud
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	@junkie, from your link "The scientific community does not recognize such objections as valid, pointing to detractors' misinterpretations of such things as the scientific method, evidence, and basic physical laws."
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	doof one more time, when you "factor in" the actual probability, which we have a good estimate thereof, and do the math, which you can actually do rather than going off an ill-informed hunch, its a big number
theBoneyKing 06.19.19	Yes /thread
Dimorphic 06.19.19	I used to be certain that the Universe would be teeming with intelligent life, e.g. dozens of intelligent civilisations per galaxy. But considering how many ridiculously complex conditions have to be met for life to be sustainable on a planet, combined with the relative youth of the Universe (13.7 billion years, when it will still exist in trillions of years), I'm getting more and more convinced that we may be one of the first civilisations to have got to this point. But yeah, I still lean towards the idea that we're absolutely not alone out there and there may even be some Godlike civilisations out there already. If random combinations of matter coincidentally organised themselves into single-celled organisms after 1 billion years on Earth, why should it be impossible for it to happen after 1 million years on another planet? It's basically just like solving a Rubik's cube in 2 minutes compared to solving it in 10 seconds, just by chance. Fuckin' love space and shit.
rockandmetaljunkie 06.19.19	all the degrees in the whole world will never be enough to persuade me that there's one universal truth about anything I never said that Darwin was wrong with his theories, I myself have read and believed some of them as well. But I would be a closed minded person if I chose to believe that's the only answer to this topic. Remember, people used to believe that earth was the center of the universe some 500-700 years ago, only because some scholars and scientists told them to.
Gyromania 06.19.19	"the only people arguing against it are religious folk" This. Honestly, I wouldn't take religion away from anyone, but I definitely think it hurts the progression of scientific theory.
theBoneyKing 06.19.19	No one who actually knew anything about anything believed that that recently junkie.
SitarHero 06.19.19	"I think most of his theories are debunked, though." "And keep in mind we're not 100% sure that the laws of physics apply outside our solar system." Bro...what?!
Gyromania 06.19.19	The only instance (that I'm aware of) of our understanding of physics not applying in the universe are in regards to black holes. The Bootes Void is another one that seems to stump scientists, as it seems physically impossible that there'd be such a massive space of nothing
Gyromania 06.19.19	Chuck did you say you have a master's degree in 'science'? That seems pretty vague lmao. Can't tell if you were joking. Science is pretty all-encompassing
SitarHero 06.19.19	"The only instance (that I'm aware of) of our understanding of physics not applying in the universe are in regards to black holes." Also not true. As the recent image of the M87 indicated, we already had a pretty decent idea of how a black hole functions, even though we obviously don't have all the answers. As for the Bootes Void, it's more like a gap in our knowledge of cosmic events and phenomena rather than a gap in our knowledge of physics.
rockandmetaljunkie 06.19.19	"No one who actually knew anything about anything believed that that recently junkie" the geocentric idea is a concept that dates back to the age of ancient Greece, king, so yeah, it's far more ancient
theBoneyKing 06.19.19	Oh oh, universe vs solar system, see what you mean now
SitarHero 06.19.19	To be fair, some people STILL believe in a geocentric universe.
theBoneyKing 06.19.19	Yes but they’re idiots.
Hawks 06.19.19	Men.
SitarHero 06.19.19	Exactly. Questioning the truth of science merely because scientists have been wrong before is idiotic.
rockandmetaljunkie 06.19.19	"some people STILL believe in a geocentric universe" it's in our nature to feel a sense of megalomania, which is why i believe we adopted this system in ancient times we like to believe we're the center of the kosmos but the truth is, we're small and insignificant, all the way...
Egarran 06.19.19	Speak for yourself. I personally contain the entire universe.
rockandmetaljunkie 06.19.19	then you contain a huge portion of plain-nothingness, egarran
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	gyro a M.Sc is literally called master of science
Egarran 06.19.19	Indeed, my mind perfectly captures the immense vaccuum.
Bedex 06.19.19	Yeah but if I'm not mistaken you generally get a Master of Science (MS or Msc) IN something, like an MSc in computer science or MSc in engineering or whatever. Saying you have an MSc is kind of similar to saying you have a PhD (although PhD can be even a broader range of things) in that it says what level of education was reached but not the topic of said education?
Gyromania 06.19.19	^ yeah that was my understanding of it as well.
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	yes but the MSc itself is called master of science which is obviously what i was referring to which is more specific than a phd which can be in arts science etc any other questions
Papa Universe 06.19.19	the illegal ones do, I guess
botb 06.19.19	I think it’s arrogant to assume that humans are the only form of intelligent life out there
SitarHero 06.19.19	Trump University Class of '14 REPRESENT!
Source 06.19.19	Great bump
Bedex 06.19.19	Paps will the real answers here MSc is still not very specific you can get an MSc in Finance or Computer Science for instance, both of which aren't very relevant to the topic at hand at all. Then again so is blabbering on about degrees so I'll shush now lul
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	he brought trump into it LMAO HE DID THE THING LOL
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	is it more specific than phd yes or no what is your major malfunction numbnuts i could have specified and said i did biochemistry but ive enjoyed watching you moan about it so held back
Gestapo 06.19.19	I've seen them
Egarran 06.19.19	I feel chuck knows all there is to know about this. That kind of confidence is rarely wrong.
SitarHero 06.19.19	He's got that fabled MSc to prove it...or does he?
Papa Universe 06.19.19	this is probably a good time to listen to Eddie Bravo and Alex Jones riff about galactic rapist lizards
DoofDoof 06.19.19	Wouldn’t be surprised scientists find another load of factors beyond our current understanding that make complex life that few billion times more unlikely is what I meant Chuck Maybe not Hopefully not?
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstellar_habitable_zone def could be more complicated than they believe though who knows bruh
Bedex 06.19.19	Perhaps there is intelligent life out there but there is zero chance it reached the godlike level of knowledge chuck attained through his nonspecific-but-actually-biochem MSc
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	my god your jealousy is unbecoming of you do you always get worked up when you confront successful people
rockandmetaljunkie 06.19.19	irrelevant, i know, but i love Zemeckis's Contact, such a fantastic film
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	great film indeed
SitarHero 06.19.19	chucky meltdown imminent. T minus 3...2...
Bedex 06.19.19	he's near boiling point I am enjoying it very much
Keyblade 06.19.19	tfw u can get an MSc in finance or business or management or marketing etc etc
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	tfw is it not called master of science then or
GhandhiLion 06.19.19	Yo chuck Is Math related to Science?
Keyblade 06.19.19	just take the L man
SitarHero 06.19.19	Probably an MSc in Literature. How else can one explain the sublime cosmic beauty of "the motif for your sarcasm follows this notion"?
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	just answer the Q man
Bedex 06.19.19	@Sitar I think lit would be an MA oops
SitarHero 06.19.19	Nope there are MSc's in lit too apparently. https://www.ed.ac.uk/literatures-languages-cultures/graduate-school/our-degrees/pgt/complit-taught-msc
Bedex 06.19.19	Oh interesting I didn't know that. They have MA's in literature too so there must be a difference Funny that the first line of the page is 'A fantastic cross-disciplinary programme, this one-year taught MSc compares literary works from different languages and cultures, and the relationship of literature to other art forms.' 'other art forms' Sounds like an M.A. to me boys but alright lol
SitarHero 06.19.19	The Bachelor of Science has little to do with actually studying science. I guess the MSc more or less functions the same way. Which makes chucky's confident title-dropping all the funnier.
rockandmetaljunkie 06.19.19	didn't realize this thread is 4 years old, lol
Dimorphic 06.19.19	You guys just took a great topic and fucked it into the ground by arguing over trivial shit.
Bedex 06.19.19	you're welcome but I agree
rockandmetaljunkie 06.19.19	That's sputnikmusic 4 you
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	they arent capable of a civil fruitful conversation angst lvl 100
anarchistfish 06.19.19	some retarded animal definitely lives on some other planet so if u think aliens don't exist ur probably a retard
SitarHero 06.19.19	This has been a pretty civil zero-bs zero-MS thread tbh.
Bedex 06.19.19	nice sitar
Devastator 06.19.19	What are upset about today gamers?
anarchistfish 06.19.19	also yh lol I have BSc and my course is like the most sociological literary philosophical shit u could imagine in a social science lmao
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	if the online persona you project is what you consider civil id hate to witness what sort of chaotic disaster you are in real life tbh
SitarHero 06.19.19	That's like that one congressman who thought he'd made a huge breakthrough when he called out John Kerry on his fake science "Political Science" degree. I guess the point is, how can there be intelligent life elsewhere in the universe when there's so little of it here?
Keyblade 06.19.19	"um no if you literally do the math its a big number but i cant expect you to be willing or capable of following the logic" - chuck in response to a completely civil and fruitful post by known angsty teenager DoofDoof
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	i explained it to doof multiple times and he wasnt even reading the post or was otherwise unable to follow yes
Bedex 06.19.19	Well the presence or absence of intelligent life here has no impact whatsoever on its presence or absence elsewhere. It merely demonstrates that intelligent life is possible, but in itself is not proof that there can or cannot be intelligent life anywhere else whether to a lesser, equal or greater degree
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	just answer the Q man
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	"also yh lol I have BSc and my course is like the most sociological literary philosophical shit u could imagine in a social science lmao" because the UK education system is trash yeah tbh youre right i forgot msc could be in things other than actual science because such a thing does not exist where im from hang me guys, piss on my grave
SoulFunction 06.19.19	They exists alright, my cousin Dewey just chased one of em near the border. Oh and I can vouch for Chuck, he does have a theoretical degree in physics.
SitarHero 06.19.19	Well played SoulFunction. :]
SitarHero 06.19.19	"hang me guys, piss on my grave" What's the angst lvl of that?
anarchistfish 06.19.19	i mean i do geography which is kinda impossible to classify anyway when there's such breath in unit choice also we spend all our time shitting on science which is fun science depends on philosophy anyway so the whole distinction is moot
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	indeed
anarchistfish 06.19.19	can someone tldr this thread for me
Devastator 06.19.19	Me too please.
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	i explained why based on probability its extremely likely aliens are present somewhere but we'll never make contact then the betas showed up on schedule to derail it tune in tomorrow for another episode same bat time same bat channel
DoofDoof 06.19.19	chuck - will humans terraform another planet? Yay or nay? What's the likelihood?
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	technology would certainly allow for it so its a matter on whether or not you take the bet of humans not impeding their own progress and surviving long enough to reach that point im pessimistic
oltnabrick 06.19.19	tom delonge has entered the chatroom
SoulFunction 06.19.19	We terraform our front yard everyday dude. Its just a fancy word for landscaping.
wham49 06.19.19	not as it is doof,although in a few thougsand years it will probably have to happen, for homo sapien sapiens to continue
SitarHero 06.19.19	Terraforming is totally possible. I mean, look at what we've managed to do to this planet.
Devastator 06.19.19	It's possible but on another planet we won't have existing resources to help speed up the process.
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	youd have to somehow corral water from a comet etc it's far future shit (thus my pessimism even though again its entirely possible theoretically yes)
SitarHero 06.19.19	Too bad about the coral reefs on Earth though.
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	you got that in before i even had time to insta edit, youre ready to go g o t e m
Source 06.19.19	They probably exist, let's be honest
Devastator 06.19.19	I'd imagine the hardest part would just be getting the atmosphere to be livable.
SoulFunction 06.19.19	thoughts and prayers to the coral reefs
SitarHero 06.19.19	nailed it
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	creating an entire hydrological cycle yeah
SitarHero 06.19.19	Hey chuck, what are your views on climate change here on li'l ol' planet Earth?
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	hoax perpetrated by the chinese
SitarHero 06.19.19	nailed it
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	nah its real and we're playing with fire in not addressing it because there are some potential runaway positive feedback cycles that could be uncorked such as melting of the methane in the siberian tundra should be incentivizing the creation of a renewable energy grid (bonus for doing so - stop relying on ISIS oil) i worked with the canadian fed doing research on climate data in the arctic for awhile
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	of course you did something something TRUMP LOL I DID THE THING AGAIN GUYS
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	is that job s c i e n c e enough for you children or
SitarHero 06.19.19	Lol if it were actually true would you still be this insecure about it?
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	g o t e m
BigHans 06.19.19	They wont exist for much longer. I got a vasectomy last fall.
Dimorphic 06.19.19	"science depends on philosophy anyway so the whole distinction is moot". Dude, that's literally the most retarded thing I've heard all week and I spoke to my Downs syndrome cousin for half an hour the other day.
Bedex 06.19.19	were some comments deleted or not bcs this reads like an internal dialogue between multiple personalities
SitarHero 06.19.19	chucky has a habit of hitting submit before his train of thought pulls into the station.
guitarded_chuck 06.19.19	@dimorphic its literally a new religion dude dont even bother consciously doing without rational thought processes like i said the UK education system is fucked (though the cancer is spreading through NA too) i mean just ask fish if hes literally a communist fish are you a communist
Keyblade 06.19.19	love to diss my cousin to own a stranger online
Dimorphic 06.19.19	Realistically, there's almost no chance that life DOESN'T exist elsewhere in the Universe. It almost certainly exists (or, at least, existed) in single-celled forms in our own solar system, for God's sake. The real problem when it comes to the development of intelligent life is the series of ridiculous cosmic coincidences that have to be in place to allow any species to actually survive long enough to get to that point. We have a great atmosphere, yes, but that's nothing without the fact that the moon is precisely where it is, the Sun is precisely within the certain range it needs to be for liquid water, Jupiter protects us from incoming comets etc. So many crazy conditions and we got lucky with them all. If even one of them wasn't met on another world, that particular species that was destined for intelligence could die out and there would only be fish in the oceans, if even that.
Ryus 06.19.19
Keyblade 06.19.19	...
oltnabrick 06.19.19	oh no
Dimorphic 06.19.19	Haha, tbh I don't have a Downs syndrome cousin, I just wanted to emphasise the fact that what that dude said was literally dumb as shit, and wanted to do it in a more colourful way than straight up calling him a dumbass.
Keyblade 06.19.19	I'm just glad chuck didn't cosign such an uncivil and fruitless comment
anarchistfish 06.19.19	"Dude, that's literally the most retarded thing I've heard all week and I spoke to my Downs syndrome cousin for half an hour the other day." sounds genetic
anarchistfish 06.19.19	have u never heard of kant
Dimorphic 06.19.19	Uncivil? Absolutely... Fruitless? Absolutely not. Dude was trying to say that the physical and mathematical laws of the Universe are literally dependent on dudes sitting in comfy chairs and wondering which interpretation of human morality is correct.
Dimorphic 06.19.19	Of course I've heard of Kant, have you ever heard how stupid your comments are when you read them aloud. If you explain how science DEPENDS on philosophy, I swear to God I'll transfer you 100 quid as soon as I wake up tomorrow. That's a genuine promise. Universal laws governing reality vs. biased human-centric thought based on things we don't fully understand (literally, by the nature of the subject itself). Hmmmmm, this see-saw doesn't seem to be balanced equally....
SitarHero 06.19.19	Lol @ thinking that philosophy = interpretation of human morality.
Dimorphic 06.19.19	Lol @ thinking moral philosophy doesn't exist
Dimorphic 06.19.19	Lol @ not realising that it was a single example meant to show how stupid his claim was.
anarchistfish 06.19.19	well it failed
SitarHero 06.19.19	The concept of logical syllogistic reasoning that underpins all mathematics, and by extension the other physical sciences, is fundamentally a philosophical concept. If => then. Shit, all science started off as a branch of philosophy. fish was right about you Dimorphic.
Dimorphic 06.19.19	Lol @ the possibility that you actually did know that it was a humorous example, but decided to be disingenuous anyway
anarchistfish 06.19.19	lol u r a hack
anarchistfish 06.19.19	get the fuck off my website you weasel piece of shit
Egarran 06.19.19	Tell me one great idea Kant invented.
anarchistfish 06.19.19	communism
Dimorphic 06.19.19	Wow, can't believe I have to explain this, Sitar, but here you go, since you clearly need it. Philosophy: "The rational investigation of questions about existence and knowledge and ethics". Keywords being rational investigation, i.e. human investigation using rational logic. Are you literally trying to say that the human investigation of why mathematical laws are the way they are actually trumps the reality of WHAT the mathematical laws which were determined almost instantly after the Big Bang are? Seriously, dude, come on. Sure, all science did start off as a branch of philosophy. Nobody is claiming otherwise. But that's completely irrelevant considering the SCIENCE CAME FIRST.
Valkoor952 06.19.19	I mean, recently a report came out that during the last few years Navy pilots were reporting UFO's on a daily basis, and we aren't talking about unidentified objects from earth but things that moved in ways, and moved in time unlike anything ever seen before or considered possible, or so they say.
Dimorphic 06.19.19	Also, anarchistfish, absolute pure fucking lol at the fact you can't back up a single thing you've said so you just say 'lol u faild' and 'u r hack'. Fucking mouthbreather. Fuck this, I'm going to sleep. I'll continue slapping you up tomorrow.
anarchistfish 06.19.19	science doesn't perfectly complement reality dipshit. have u even studied physics
anarchistfish 06.19.19	re-evaluate your stunted notion of what constitutes philosophy
SitarHero 06.19.19	"The rational investigation of questions about existence" Literally, science.
Egarran 06.19.19	How does Dimo not see that behaving like an angry teen completely undermines his scientific attitude?
anarchistfish 06.19.19	cos he is an angry teen?
Bedex 06.19.19	chuck was funnier
anarchistfish 06.19.19	wtf even is a scientific "attitude". i thought science was all about the reals
Egarran 06.19.19	wtf how do you not get that Sorry.
anarchistfish 06.20.19	im surrounded by ideologues
hal1ax 06.20.19	quasi-hate myself for reading all of these comments. um so science can sometimes be philosophical. there were many theoretical physics postulates built on aspects of einstein's theories that were later disproven. obviously axioms are axioms, but part of science is asking the right questions and you can sometimes ask the wrong question and net a fruitful result which is then apocryphally attributed as being causal. again, not saying science is on equal footing as philosophy but rather that sometimes philosophy makes it's way into science. um but yea i believe in aliens fasho
Tyler. 06.20.19	would you fuck an alien if it was a humoniod type alien
hal1ax 06.20.19	indubitably
Ryus 06.20.19	thank you tyler for bringing this discussion back on track and asking the difficult questions
Tyler. 06.20.19	i would only if they had big alien honkers you know what i mean
Morningrise767 06.20.19	yes
anarchistfish 06.20.19	science is philosophy
Dimorphic 06.20.19	anarchistfish, everything you post is so dumb. Honestly. I didn't just quote myself, you know... That was a dictionary definition of philosophy. You really want to argue with the dictionary definition? Egarran, there is difference between anger and frustration. Trying to keep these guys focused on a single point is like watching a retard try to fuck a doornob. Also, I would argue against the fact that emotion undermines an emotionless subject such as mathematics. SitarHero, you literally need to just address the actual point I was making which was that the mathematical / scientific laws of the universe are not DETERMINED BY philosophy. I know you can't do that, and so do you, so you argue with me about what science is even though that was not the topic of conversation. Just read back through the comments. There are only a handful, it will take you 30 seconds. Do that and you'll see how transparent your approach is.
Dimorphic 06.20.19	Keep in mind that the thing you're continually insulting me over is the fact that I am saying that the physical, mathematical laws that govern the Universe existed before human's rational investigation of those mathematical laws. That was my point, simple and plain. You are arguing against that. Come on, dude. You may not like me, and you may feel a need to side with your friends, but you need to act like the rational being you're championing.
Egarran 06.20.19	I think my peeve is that people will use any excuse to get angry at each other. There is so much vanity and angry pride here. Even when speculating about aliens! "Ur theories tell me ur dumb af and don't get the basics of science lol" Meanwhile the US prez is swearing on 2 bibles. Good luck championing a scientific attitude in this environment. BUT it helps to be somewhat in control of your emotions to have any luck with this.
Pon 06.20.19	I would an alien
YakNips 06.20.19	aliens exist but they’re inter-dimensional not extra terrestrial
SitarHero 06.20.19	Dimorphic, literally no one has argued, at any point, that philosophy predates the physical and mathematical laws that govern the Universe. The argument was always that SCIENCE, which is the STUDY of said physical and mathematical laws, is a branch of philosophy. This all began when I called you out for your limited conception of philosophy as the "interpretation of human morality". But I see where the confusion stems from. "Sure, all science did start off as a branch of philosophy. Nobody is claiming otherwise. But that's completely irrelevant considering the SCIENCE CAME FIRST." Looks like you don't actually know what the word "science" means. Either that or your reading comprehension is at a 3rd grade level. Either way, that down's syndrome "joke" you dropped earlier is not ageing well buddy.
Egarran 06.20.19	Yak, the mothman was described as an extra-dimensional. It seems obvious that they would move through higher vibrations. And not by mechanical machines. Anyway, the best answer to the Fermi paradox, and basically all other weirdness, is that we're in a simulation.
Demon of the Fall 06.20.19	'would you fuck an alien if it was a humoniod type alien' I'm imagining an Asari character from Mass Effect, those lasses had something (P.S. yes).
Dimorphic 06.20.19	"would you fuck an alien if it was a humanoid type alien?" Hell yeah, man, or even if it wasn't humanoid. How many humans have ever fucked an alien? Other than your dad when he fucks your mum, I wanna be number 2. That'd be so cool.
SitarHero 06.20.19	^nobody let this guy anywhere near a zoo or any pets.
Dimorphic 06.20.19	If it's a zoo or a pet on Earth, nobody has anything to worry about. Extraterrestrial zoos/pets though.... HHHNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG
guitarded_chuck 06.20.19	anarchistfish 06.19.19 [Report this Post] communism anarchistfish 06.19.19 [Report this Post] im surrounded by ideologues
guitarded_chuck 06.20.19	anarchistfish 06.19.19 [Report this Post] also we spend all our time shitting on science which is fun anarchistfish 06.19.19 [Report this Post] im surrounded by ideologues
Space Jester 06.20.19	“would you fuck an alien if it was a humoniod type alien” Why limit it to humanoid types
DoofDoof 06.20.19	'Why limit it to humanoid types' If you like the idea of that maybe start with some light bestiality in advance
WretchedCacophony 06.20.19	Intelligent life capable of communication through space most likely does not exist on other planets. Assuming a 5 billion year old universe, and we have the capability to reach out to space for only 100 years of that 5 billion years, that means we've been 'intelligent enough' to do so for only 10000/5000000000 = 0.000002% of the lifespan of the universe. That small time has to overlap with another intelligent society, which means it's extremely unlikely we exist simultaneously with another 'alien' species
Egarran 06.20.19	>Intelligent life capable of communication through space Isn't that all higher life forms on Earth? In the sim theory your analysis makes good sense though.
Dimorphic 06.20.19	"Isn't that all higher life forms on Earth?" Lol, that is so ridiculously pedantic, it's hilarious. I mean, you're absolutely correct, but fucking lmao. Also just want to point out the chances are even smaller than that as the Universe is 13.7 billion years old! I think the chances that we exist simultaneously with another intelligent species is very large tbh, but totally agree with you that the chances of us existing at the same time and place to be able to communicate with them in any meaningful timeframe is.... Practically nonexistent.
Egarran 06.20.19	Wow, dude you HAVE to calm down. Again, how do you not see that a lmao ad hominem undermines your attempts at appearing rational? But I guess there's also a comfort in being alone with truth.
guitarded_chuck 06.20.19	the irony
Dimorphic 06.20.19	Wtf, dude I think you're misinterpreting me. I am agreeing with you! Nothing wrong with being pedantic - if anything, in conversations / topics like this it's actually a good thing! Being pedantic on technical topics is practically just being specific. Look at where my being non-specific in my last comment got me... I suppose justifiably not very far.
guitarded_chuck 06.20.19	CALM DOWN BRO
Tyler. 06.20.19	chuck would you fuck an alien
Space Jester 06.20.19	Would you fuck one of those Andalite aliens from Animorphs
guitarded_chuck 06.20.19	id fuck rachel
Tyler. 06.20.19	who is rachel
Space Jester 06.20.19	https://animorphs.fandom.com/wiki/Rachel
guitarded_chuck 06.20.19	too bad shes into birds and not swole gentlemen
Relinquished 06.20.19	since you like to peacock a lot it can probably work out
Ryus 06.20.19	that was good
SitarHero 06.20.19	Lol!
guitarded_chuck 06.20.19	https://i.imgur.com/0DfK47R.jpg
Relinquished 06.20.19	classic peaked photo
guitarded_chuck 06.20.19	caw
Egarran 06.20.19	Any of you watch Isaac Arthur? All his Fermi videos are excellent.
Dimorphic 06.20.19	Eyezik Awwfaww's whole channel is awesome tbh. Also since you mentioned 'Fermi', I highly recommend the official channel of the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory - FermiLab: https://www.youtube.com/user/fermilab And a shout-out to PBS SpaceTime as well: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7_gcs09iThXybpVgjHZ_7g
Tyler. 06.20.19	wait is rachel an alien
anarchistfish 06.21.19	ah yes kant the well known father of communism
anarchistfish 06.21.19	"anarchistfish, everything you post is so dumb. Honestly. I didn't just quote myself, you know... That was a dictionary definition of philosophy. You really want to argue with the dictionary definition?" er, yes? retard
anarchistfish 06.21.19	u know there are different dictionaries and they are not definitive right. they are descriptive, necessarily reductive, dipshit. language and ideas came first
Keyblade 06.21.19	are u really about to go toe to toe with THE dictionary?
anarchistfish 06.21.19	ill entertain u tho so let's read this alzheimers alphabetti "Philosophy: "The rational investigation of questions about existence and knowledge and ethics"." ok cool. kinda vague but yh sure i guess "Keywords being rational investigation, i.e. human investigation using rational logic." uhuh. so how does distinguish it from "science" "Are you literally trying to say that the human investigation of why mathematical laws are the way they are actually trumps the reality of WHAT the mathematical laws which were determined almost instantly after the Big Bang are?" what? no. the point is you can't access total Reality, not even through science, which isn't a singular thing anyway "Seriously, dude, come on. Sure, all science did start off as a branch of philosophy. Nobody is claiming otherwise. But that's completely irrelevant considering the SCIENCE CAME FIRST."" read a book
Invaderbryan 06.21.19	Ever tried DMT?
hal1ax 06.21.19	modern science did not really take form until like the 13th century. science before this point is just basically straight up philosophy (in the sense that it lacked rigorous experimentation and operationalism). even if you somehow tried to classify someone like Hippocrates as a scientist, Socrates predated him. but i think Fish's argument has merit. i suppose you could call science the philosophy of determining something's representation based on its function / material composition / operation. and i think we are beginning to see in some of the more advanced forms of science, like quantum physics, a point where we are so thrown off by how these subatomic particles function, insofar as they seem to have a will of their own, that we are basically having to loop traditional 'philosophy' back into the landscape, given it's sheer immeasurability. i guess it's really just all semantics here though.
Ryus 06.21.19	fish: 1 the dictionary: 0
Keyblade 06.21.19	idk why u guys are breaking it down, dude's not saying much beyond "science is laws and formulas and philosophy is guys thinking about the world and stuff" lol
SitarHero 06.21.19	Dimorphic got his panties in a bunch because he didn't know that the word science means the study of the physical laws of the universe and not laws of the universe themselves. He needs all the reinforcement he can get.
Source 06.21.19	If nothing else, this thread made me remember Animorphs
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	read a book
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	The scientific method is an empirical method of acquiring knowledge that has characterized the development of science since at least the 17th century. It involves careful observation, applying rigorous skepticism about what is observed, given that cognitive assumptions can distort how one interprets the observation. It involves formulating hypotheses, via induction, based on such observations; experimental and measurement-based testing of deductions drawn from the hypotheses; and refinement (or elimination) of the hypotheses based on the experimental findings. These are principles of the scientific method, as distinguished from a definitive series of steps applicable to all scientific enterprises.[1][2][3]
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	Empirical evidence is the information received by means of the senses, particularly by observation and documentation of patterns and behavior through experimentation.[1
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	there is philosophy of science but the scientific method itself is just running empirical testing to determine a level of certainty around a given hypothesis id think this would all be clear by the time you finished your “msc” then again, you are british
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	something something mathematics is prejudiced something something patriarchy
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	https://i.imgur.com/0DfK47R.jpg
Egarran 06.21.19	>then again, you are british Again this (among other things) undermines your entire scientific attitude.
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	Wow, dude you HAVE to calm down. Again, how do you not see that a lmao ad hominem undermines your attempts at appearing rational? But I guess there's also a comfort in being alone with truth.
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	actually i think he’s french which would make even more sense
SitarHero 06.21.19	From the same Wikipedia article you refer to as a "book": "As regards his method, Aristotle is recognized as the inventor of scientific method because of his refined analysis of logical implications contained in demonstrative discourse, which goes well beyond natural logic and does not owe anything to the ones who philosophized before him." – Riccardo Pozzo[14]
Typhoon24 06.21.19	damn, niggas are quoting scientists and philosophers we don't know if they do, but it's possible af
Keyblade 06.21.19	that rigorous scientific method of blindly quoting the first dictionary definition or wikipedia paragraph I see to support my argument
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	is it wrong
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	are you blindly mocking the definition without actually commenting on its validity
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	just take the L man
Egarran 06.21.19	It just seem obvious that you have never participated in a scientific discussion before. But you've got some trolling chops.
SitarHero 06.21.19	MSc in Trolling
AnimalsAsSummit 06.21.19	i mean, maybe, but to be honest, who even knows if space in general is real dude. will believe it when i get more than cgi images.
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	Wow, dude you HAVE to calm down. Again, how do you not see that a lmao ad hominem undermines your attempts at appearing rational? But I guess there's also a comfort in being alone with truth.
Keyblade 06.21.19	ignoring the amount of stock u guys put into online definitions, it's not necessarily wrong. it just doesn't make the point u think it is just scrolling down an inch or 2 undermines that point or maybe the fact that the very first source is Isaac Newton's Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy lol
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	it defines the scientific method accurately so does it matter where it comes from or are you reaching for criticism because youre not actually interested or otherwise capable of honest conversation
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	something something CHUCK TALKING ABOUT BEING CIVIL LOL utter trash
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	just take the L man
Keyblade 06.21.19	lol we're way past civility my dude, that shit is weak as hell it obviously matters where it comes from if it completely undermines the point ur making I guess if ur simply quoting the definition on some word of the day shit then it doesn't matter because like I said theres nothing wrong with the definition itself
Keyblade 06.21.19	v civil
Relinquished 06.21.19	take the L chuckles
SitarHero 06.21.19	Chucknobyl melts down again .
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	lol we're way past civility my dude, that shit is weak as hell
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	lmfao
Bedex 06.21.19	how is this still going lol
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	cause you bumped it
Bedex 06.21.19	not quite accurate
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	hmm
Keyblade 06.21.19	"youre not actually interested or otherwise capable of honest conversation" that ninja edit from civil to honest tho
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	lol we're way past civility my dude, that shit is weak as hell
PunchforPunch 06.21.19	Wht r u doing key, smh.
Keyblade 06.21.19	bringing u back from the dead apparently, what's good bruh
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	keynobyl LOL
PunchforPunch 06.21.19	Just got a call from my parole officer, Jom. All good cuhh.
Keyblade 06.21.19	whats it been, like 4 years? jom trolling smh
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	lol we're way past civility my dude, that shit is weak as hell
PunchforPunch 06.21.19	Dev took the key when he retired that's what happened. Key, why is this guy keeps copy+pasted the same shit, is he one of them special kids?
ian b 06.21.19	this thread is a poison lmfao
Relinquished 06.21.19	I think Chuck has actually been quite pussified, or neutered, by an overly estrogenized society, which is in fact epidemic. Don't mistake me, bisphenols in plastics, along with other chemicals absorbed through the environment, and the inundation of hormones in meat against the body, which I regard as a silent war on humankind, especially men, has caused testosterone and by extension sperm count to fall among men while estrogen has risen. Chuck takes refuge in the gym and in his muscles to retain his connection to his manhood but if thinking objectively, will realize that society's chemical onslaught has infected him as it's affected everybody.
Relinquished 06.21.19	You have to come to Sputnik to decide if you should have a threesome or not. You have no interest in getting married or having a child, which is the lifeblood of the future, indeed we have no future without little children to raise up after us, and you seem to prefer a freewheeling lifestyle which isn't characteristically any different from that of a 15 year old when his parents are not home. You fear a climate catastrophe, which no one has any power to prevent or delay yet seem to believe daddy government will be able to step in and intercede to the climate gods for us, but only by taking massive amounts of wealth and redistributing it to the very top. The latter shows you're in no condition for self-rule but are actually quite content with the government gradually taking over the reins of your life. In short, you have been made the victim of the estrogenization of society, the chemical onslaught through our air, water, and food supply which is a systematic decimation of mankind by blurring the genders, making men more alike to women and women more alike to men, which in concert with fluoridation makes you easy pickings for a tyrannical government to rule over like sheep or vassals. You lack a number of the essential characteristics of manhood as understood for centuries and millennia, and you retreat into a world where safe masculinities can be constructed that are not at all resistant in affirming your manhood. Real life is not like that. Manhood isn't how much you benchpress or how long you can hold your breath under water or dunk a ball or any of the other silly diversions which society has supplied to us to justify this consumer culture which is a diversion. It's a waste of your energy and you as much as anybody, probably more than anybody at this entire forum have fallen prey to it. And the solution is easier for you to pick up than anything else yet you don't.
guitarded_chuck 06.21.19	send chelsea my selfie and see if she wants my number (cock)
Relinquished 06.21.19	she's not into mongoloids bruh sry lol
Relinquished 06.21.19	go ahead and see her live to ask the more money to the wolfe dynasty the better
Keyblade 06.21.19	I know we've been shitposting for 300 posts now and this is sputnikmusic.com but for the love of God could ya please be civil?
anarchistfish 06.21.19	"actually i think he’s french" both. mongrel "MSc" sorry brah i'm not that qualified, it's only a trashy geography BSc
anarchistfish 06.21.19	at least dimo has had the dignity to fuck off now
Egarran 06.21.19	Let's do religion now. It's like aliens only even more divisive. I know someone here who digs judeo-christian culture.
Bedex 06.21.19	but is it more divisive than degree titles
PunchforPunch 06.21.19	I'm a muslim. AMA.
Egarran 06.21.19	What does the science say about islam?
Dimorphic 06.21.19	More like what does Islam say about science, tbh, as the Islamic scholars were some of the first and greatest.
Egarran 06.22.19	True. There was a thing recently, where people asked if it was ok to teach our school children arabic numerals in school. So yeah it seems logical that all that mathematical knowledge comes from Allah (pbuh).
Typhoon24 06.23.19	it would be (Swt) for allah and (pbuh) for muhammad. >>> ex-muslim: As far as islam goes, science is cools unless anything you declare or decide contradicts the quran or the prophet's teachings.
Egarran 06.23.19	Thanks! I suspected it and I should have been certain, knowing how many muslims are here.
guitarded_chuck 06.24.19	lol we're way past civility my dude, that shit is weak as hell
Tundra 06.24.19	I hope so
guitarded_chuck 06.24.19	Hey there, Delilah What's it like in New York city? I'm a thousand miles away But, girl, tonight you look so pretty Yes, you do Times Square can't shine as bright as you I swear, it's true Hey there, Delilah Don't you worry about the distance I'm right there if you get lonely Give this song another listen Close your eyes Listen to my voice, it's my disguise I'm by your side Oh, it's what you do to me Oh, it's what you do to me Oh, it's what you do to me Oh, it's what you do to me What you do to me Hey there, Delilah I know times are gettin' hard But just believe me, girl Someday I'll pay the bills with this guitar We'll have it good We'll have the life we knew we would My word is good Hey there, Delilah I've got so much left to say If every simple song I wrote to you Would take your breath away I'd write it all Even more in love with me you'd fall We'd have it all Oh, it's what you do to me Oh, it's what you do to me Oh, it's what you do to me Oh, it's what you do to me A thousand miles seems pretty far But they've got planes and trains and cars I'd walk to you if I had no other way Our friends would all make fun of us And we'd just laugh along because we'd know That none of them have felt this way Delilah, I can promise you That by the time that we get through The world will never ever be the same And you're to blame Hey there, Delilah You be good, and don't you miss me Two more years and you'll be done with school And I'll be makin' history like I do You know it's all because of you We can do whatever we want to Hey there, Delilah, here's to you This one's for you Oh, it's what you do to me Oh, it's what you do to me Oh, it's what you do to me Oh, it's what you do to me What you do to me, oh oh, woah, woah Oh woah, oh Oh
budgie 06.24.19	wat the fuck is this thread
Keyblade 06.24.19	chuck still mad a whole weekend later
guitarded_chuck 06.24.19	Yeah nigga I'm still fucking with ya Still waters run deep Still Snoop Dogg and D-R-E, '99 nigga Guess who's back Still doing that shit huh Dre? (Oh for sho', check me out) It's still Dre Day nigga, AK nigga Though I've grown a lot, can't keep it home a lot 'Cause when I frequent the spots that I'm known to rock You hear the bass from the truck when I'm on the block Ladies they pay homage, but haters say Dre fell off How nigga? my last album was The Chronic (Nigga) They want to know if he still got it They say rap's changed They wanna know how I feel about it (If you ain't up on thangs) Dr. Dre is the name I'm ahead of my game Still puffing my leafs Still fuck with the beats, still not loving police Still rock my khakis with a cuff and a crease Still got love for the streets, reppin' 213 (For life) Still the beats bang, still doing my thang Since I left ain't too much changed, still I'm representing for them gangstas all across the world Still hitting them corners in them lo-lo's, girl (Still taking my time to perfect the beat And I still got love for the streets, it's the D-R-E) I'm representing for them gangstas all across the world Still hitting them corners in them lo-lo's, girl (Still taking my time to perfect the beat And I still got love for the streets, it's the D-R-E) Since the last time you heard from me I lost some friends Well, hell, me and Snoop, we dippin' again Kept my ear to the streets, signed Eminem He's triple platinum, doing 50 a week Still, I stay close to the heat And even when I was close to defeat, I rose to my feet My life's like a soundtrack I wrote to the beat Treat rap like Cali weed, I smoke 'til I sleep Wake up in the A.M., compose a beat I bring the fire til you're soaking in your seat It's not a fluke, it's been tried, I'm the truth Since Turn Out the Lights from the World Class Wreckin Cru I'm still at it, after-mathematics In the home of drive-bys and ak-matics Swap meets, sticky green, and bad traffic I dip through then I get skin, D-R-E I'm representing for them gangstas all across the world Still hitting them corners in them lo-lo's, girl (Still taking my time to perfect the beat And I still got love for the streets, it's the D-R-E)
budgie 06.24.19	his brain not work so well
SitarHero 06.24.19	Respect the Master of Science guys.
Egarran 06.24.19	~To see them in such swarms I wondered if this could be Paradise~