Angelboros
06.15.15 | From the trailer I've seen, Ryu looks like he'd be more OP than Little Mac. Then again, I'm not really complaining; it's good to see another Capcom representative in Smash.
Roy was my boy in Melee, so this comeback of his has me thrilled. |
Atari
06.15.15 | definitely more excited about ryu than roy tbh. by the way you should give me your nintendo network id or whatever and i'll take you on 1 vs. 1 sometime! |
Madbutcher3
06.15.15 | Ryu and Roy are both good. Roy is basically a better Marth and Lucina since he's faster and has up-tilt or up air for free from downthrow and really low lag aerials - maybe not so good for nostalgia value but a good character by Smash 4 standards.
Ryu and Lucas seem to be good too. Ryu is pretty jank and Shoryuken is probably the most OP out of shield option in the game, plus he combos pretty well. Lucas also has good combos and a solid neutral game. All good from a competitive pov |
Ninjask
06.15.15 | "Oh yeah who's bright idea was it to put Ryu in Smash."
he was one of the most requested DLC characters by a wide margin.
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Ninjask
06.15.15 | yeah roy is sweet, lucas is a tad disappointing but also can still be really good. ryu seems stupid good but i don't have him yet so idk yeah fuck em.
fuckin stoked about all this. |
Ninjask
06.15.15 | "Albums are things I jam when Smashing on the Wii U and getting frustrated because I still get my ass kicked by level 9's."
don't because Lv 9 computers in this game are fuckin cheap ass mofos. they can detect your inputs, so if they're in the air, you do any kind of attack on them, they will immediately air dodge and dodge 99.9% of moves. and they perfect shield like it's nothing, and they can up smash out of shield, frame perfect, every time. |
ArsMoriendi
06.15.15 | Yeah Roy, Lucas, and Ryu! :o
I like Roy the best out of the 3 though. |
ArsMoriendi
06.15.15 | "Oh yeah who's bright idea was it to put Ryu in Smash."
What are you talking about? I was a great idea! Capcom put in Megaman, so why not Ryu? |
Ninjask
06.15.15 | ryu is honestly a very very good addition to smash. adds a lot of combo, power, and technicality that the game normally doesn't have. plus he doesn't seem like a limp dick n campy fuck of a character, and that's always a plus.
roy is a bit like lucina but faster, strong, has more combos, but doesn't have as much range. he's significantly better for the most part, imo. |
ArsMoriendi
06.15.15 | "plus he doesn't seem like a limp dick n campy fuck of a character"
You mean like Fox and Falco lmao? So many people just camp with them and then claim they're the best characters... |
Keyblade
06.15.15 | definitely worth it, gonna cop em all tomorrow. ryu is so hype
"don't because Lv 9 computers in this game are fuckin cheap ass mofos. they can detect your inputs, so if they're in the air, you do any kind of attack on them, they will immediately air dodge and dodge 99.9% of moves. and they perfect shield like it's nothing, and they can up smash out of shield, frame perfect, every time."
this. it's actually annoying and not even fun to play against them. rather face the defensive ass players on for glory. good practice when you're not really that good tho |
emester
06.15.15 | Been playing as ryu and roy all morning. Both characters feel great overall, with Ryu being favored just due to the fact you use the SF inputs for stronger moves. Gives me a reason to play street fighter IV 3ds again haha
In all honesty im terrible at smash but I have a hell of a lot of fun playing it |
Muppelope
06.15.15 | Stoked for Ryu and Roy especially. Gonna be a headache to get my hands on a Roy amiibo though. Had to jump through so many hoops just to get the first 4 FE characters. |
Ninjask
06.15.15 | Idk what games you playin Ars, fox is one of the most aggro rush down characters there is. In every smash game too. Falco is as well but more campy in melee, however, in brawl all he does is shoot lasers at you until you're kill percent. |
ArsMoriendi
06.15.15 | Exactly, they sit off to the side shootting their gun half of the time, especially if you're versing them as a character with no long distance moves. It's cheap as hell. |
Ninjask
06.15.15 | I mean except for in brawl as falco, it shouldn't really be too much of a problem. Just jump towards em, and you'll be fine. |
Frippertronics
06.16.15 | Hooray for paying for something that would've been in the game on the release day five years ago.
(Ryu in SSB4 sounds fucking cool though) |
Keyblade
06.16.15 | 5 bucks for Ryu in smash and his stage is easily worth it |
Ninjask
06.16.15 | "Hooray for paying for something that would've been in the game on the release day five years ago."
see, this would make sense for many other games, but not this one. the DLC in smash 4 is justified because the game was already finished, there was no original plans to have ryu (or lucas, or roy) in the game. however, nintendo publicly asked fans what characters they'd like to see in the game a few months ago, ryu being one of the most highly requested characters by the fans.
they didn't have to add ryu into the game; he was never planned to be in it. but they did it anyway; they'll make money, but it is completely justified.
the price may be debatable, however. but i think it's worth it. |
Ninjask
06.16.15 | "I don't pay for DLCs... Never worth it."
disagreed. the DLC on fire emblem awakening...good god.
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emester
06.16.15 | Ryu is really is fun to use. Leading an opponent into the focus strike attack, stunning them and doing a grab combo is immensely satisfying |
Ninjask
06.16.15 | that guy shows up sporadically. but when he does, it's never fun. |
emester
06.16.15 | disagreed. the DLC on fire emblem awakening...good god.
The gold farming and the rare weapon missions helped me out greatly. |
Ninjask
06.16.15 | i know that feel, just about to get my second job x_x |
Madbutcher3
06.16.15 | If you need to beat laser camping (which you won't have to in Smash 4 because Falco's laser is garbage and you can approach through Fox's) in Melee or Brawl, you have a couple of options.
In Melee the ideal option is to powershield them, but you can also just normally shield them and wavedash out to keep moving. This avoids the issues with the lag of dropping your shield and then running. You can also go to platforms as well, but you need to be careful since a good Falco will use this for positional advantage and get ready to spam up tilts, back airs and shines to rek you.
In Brawl you can literally just shield them, drop shield and run forwards. Powershielding is also really easy in Brawl so you can try that too.
I liked that they added Dreamland as well since it's the only stage with normal sized blastzones in the whole game. Speeds up matches a lot and it's got new music too so that's dank. |
Ninjask
06.17.15 | The blast zones in the wii u version is much better than on the 3ds |
GreyShadow
06.17.15 | All are very fun characters to play as. It's a tad expensive, but go for the buy.
I plan on adding Lucas to my mains after getting used to him
Roy is way more powerful than before
Ryu is just insane with his combo game |
BlueSwan
06.17.15 | there is no way in fuck I would buy pichu lmao but I wonder if roy will be a counter attack character like ike, marth, and that one blonde guy |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.17.15 | oh yay they have added another character that already existed and is a clone of another character instead of spending the time making new characters wow im so excited |
Ninjask
06.17.15 | Umm ryu |
Ninjask
06.17.15 | Props for pots for not thinkin Lucas is a close tho, bc he isn't outside of specials x.x |
Clumseee
06.17.15 | what man i rape lvl 9's what chu guys talkin bout |
Friday13th
06.17.15 | I rule on this game :D |
Keyblade
06.17.15 | "what man i rape lvl 9's what chu guys talkin bout"
it's not that they're particularly difficult, but just frustrating to play against. power shielding and air dodging everything gets a bit tedious, and matches get drawn out cuz you only hit them like once every 5 tries lol |
Madbutcher3
06.17.15 | They're not helpful to practice against since they play very atypically, kinda like the Melee AI. Better to just practice vs lv7s or 8s since they don't just automatically react to your aerials
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