BallsToTheWall: Avengers 2

Graveyard 05.05.15	gonna see it this friday
MO 05.06.15	yea I'm stoked to see it heard some mixed things but I can't wait
deathschool 05.06.15	Just don't expect anything as groundbreaking as the first one, which is ridiculous to expect anyway, forgive a few missteps, and it's a great supahhero flick.
zaruyache 05.06.15	I thought it ruled. And we get Civil War next year, so it's like we got Avengers 2 in 2015 and Avengers 2.5/Iron Man 3.5 the next year.
Judio! 05.06.15	so bad
ExplosiveOranges 05.06.15	smh judio
PotsyTater 05.06.15	too bad it was bettr than the first one but just a tip for everyone who visits this thread, 99.9% of everything deathschool ever says about movies is dead wrong
Torontonian 05.06.15	All ik is that the first one was the most boring thing I've ever seen
PotsyTater 05.06.15	i mean joss whedon is a shit director and a huge douche so yeah
BallsToTheWall 05.06.15	Fun movie was fun. Scar Jo...
Judio! 05.06.15	Elizabeth Olson too, let's not forget
ScuroFantasma 05.06.15	[2] Movie was a blast, heaps of fun with no thought required. Good actions, good jokes and a pretty cool story line too.
deathschool 05.06.15	"too bad it was bettr than the first one but just a tip for everyone who visits this thread, 99.9% of everything deathschool ever says about movies is dead wrong" Well, I wasn't even referring to quality, dude. I just meant it couldn't be as groundbreaking as the first one because the first Avengers set a precedent for superhero movies and series action movies in general. The second one couldn't possibly do that all over again just three years later. Or maybe it could, but it didn't.
PotsyTater 05.06.15	yeah fuck scarjo i only care about elson
PotsyTater 05.06.15	"because the first Avengers set a precedent for superhero movies and series action movies in general" no it didnt
BallsToTheWall 05.06.15	That was Liz Olzen? Whoa. Can't leave out Colbie tho.
Judio! 05.06.15	I KNOW FUK
deathschool 05.06.15	Alright, name another movie that came anywhere near Avengers in terms of quality, popularity, and overall groundwork before hand. As in it had singular movies for each character beforehand that were also all extremely successful.
Judio! 05.06.15	Ummm... Apocalypse Now maybe?
SharkTooth 05.06.15	"Alright, name another movie that came anywhere near Avengers in terms of quality, popularity, and overall groundwork before hand. As in it had singular movies for each character beforehand that were also all extremely successful." I admit, Avengers made (and still makes) me freak out like a little schoolgirl every time I see/talk about it, but still, lol
PotsyTater 05.06.15	"Alright, name another movie that came anywhere near Avengers in terms of quality, popularity, and overall groundwork before hand" dark knight titanic all these; http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/ by your shit logic that is
deathschool 05.06.15	That covers one aspect of the criteria I pointed out, good job.
ExplosiveOranges 05.06.15	Just gonna say that the Maximoff twins's accents were kinda..... Eh.
deathschool 05.06.15	Yeah, they could have spent a few more weeks in an Eastern European accents class.
SharkTooth 05.06.15	"all these; http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/" "1.Avatar" no
ExplosiveOranges 05.06.15	2010 Alice In Wonderland.....?
PotsyTater 05.06.15	"That covers one aspect of the criteria I pointed out, good job." nope two. popularity and quality. all of those and avengers were all big box office hits and were all also not that great. sorry bud. u give avengers way more credit then is due.
PotsyTater 05.06.15	"no" yep. mindless box office hits. thats the way she goes.
SharkTooth 05.06.15	the rest I'm okay with (you can't really do anything about Michael Bay) but fuck Avaturd
PotsyTater 05.06.15	havent even seen it nor will i ever
Judio! 05.06.15	"Just gonna say that the Maximoff twins's accents were kinda..... Eh." Well that's an understatement. What's next, you're gonna tell me the writing was "below average"?
Hyperion1001 05.06.15	ill take the bait posty. why.
PotsyTater 05.06.15	joss is a terrible writer/director and as much as i loved them, the twins had extremely unbelievable accents
deathschool 05.06.15	"u give avengers way more credit then is due." It's not even me giving the credit. It's been stated numerous times. As I said, I really meant nothing to do with quality. Of course I enjoy the movie, but I don't see it as the end all be all of anything. This is a good watch on how much the movie did right though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSAp-QCHj_A
SharkTooth 05.06.15	"havent even seen it nor will i ever" Don't, it's not even a movie, it's just purty colors and overhyped computer graphics trying to masquerade as one
PotsyTater 05.06.15	"It's been stated numerous times" by idiots like you who dont know shut yeah
deathschool 05.06.15	"by idiots like you who dont know shut yeah" TIL I'm an established movie critic. Sweeeeet.
PotsyTater 05.06.15	"an established movie guy says the movie did things so now i suck his boner" - deathschool
BallsToTheWall 05.06.15	I'm glad to be back. I missed seeing this kind of pointless shit.
deathschool 05.06.15	Yeah, that's what is happening. It's not that I said one thing about a movie, and you blew it out of proportion like I crucified a piece of high art.
SharkTooth 05.06.15	Haven't seen the movie yet but am convinced it'll be at least better than Avatar also deathschool, arguing with Potsy is an uphill battle you have no chance of winning
deathschool 05.06.15	"Haven't seen the movie yet but am convinced it'll be at least better than Avatar" Well, it doesn't take much. "also deathschool, arguing with Potsy is an uphill battle you have no chance of winning" I know what I'm in for.
BallsToTheWall 05.06.15	Agreed. The last Twilight movie was better than Avatar.
Hyperion1001 05.06.15	its not like comic book movies are trying to be "good" anyways, they exist for one reason and one reason only, to make as much money as possible. the only way to really quantify if these kind of blockbusters are "good" is if they make a lot of money, everything else is pretty much unimportant.
BallsToTheWall 05.06.15	fun > good
PotsyTater 05.06.15	"Yeah, that's what is happening. It's not that I said one thing about a movie, and you blew it out of proportion like I crucified a piece of high art." all ur comments about movies are dumb. [quote]its not like comic book movies are trying to be "good" anyways,[/quote] thats dumb. the corps behind the films obvs want to make money but some directors out have integrity bud (altho i dont think joss is one of them).
SharkTooth 05.06.15	"fun > good" pretty much
PotsyTater 05.06.15	true (for shitty blockbuster films)
Hyperion1001 05.06.15	"some directors out have integrity bud" i agree, and none of them are making 200 million dollar blockbusters. a studio doesnt just hand that much money over to someone with a "vision" and let them go with it, they learned not to do that in the 80s. producers are really the directors with that kind of money. that doesnt mean that films cant be art, but blockbusters are more a product than anything else.
PotsyTater 05.06.15	"i agree, and none of them are making 200 million dollar blockbusters. a studio doesnt just hand that much money over to someone with a "vision" and let them go with it, they learned not to do that in the 80s" there is something called compromise in which a director with integrity can do a large budget film that they are proud of well still satiating the money hungry corps they work form. but i mean im pretty much used to the fact that you only speak about things in large sweeping generalizations at this point.
Judio! 05.06.15	"Haven't seen the movie yet but am convinced it'll be at least better than Avatar" lol not by much
PotsyTater 05.06.15	all i know is that batman vs superman has more substance in its 1:20 long teaser trailer than the MCU has across their entire filmography so far
ExplosiveOranges 05.06.15	"all i know is that batman vs superman has more substance in its 1:20 long teaser trailer than the MCU has across their entire filmography so far" It's funny because it's true. As much as I've enjoyed most of Marvel's past couple films, they've definitely gone with style over substance.
SharkTooth 05.06.15	The lack of substance probably has to do with Disney owning Marvel Studios tbh (I'm expecting the upcoming Star Wars movie to go through something similar) I'm still looking forward to the Deadpool movie though
ExplosiveOranges 05.06.15	"I'm expecting the upcoming Star Wars movie to go through something similar" Fuck, I just realized that. Well, it's not like the prequels had any substance anyway.
TheSpirit 05.06.15	As far as action and humor, it ruled. The story was lacking however. Still the other stuff definitely made up for it, but I'm relatively easy to please when it comes to movies of this nature.
SharkTooth 05.06.15	yeah the Avengers movies know their audience really well
zaruyache 05.06.15	define substance
TheSpirit 05.06.15	not enough parents dying while they were kids and overcoming their inner demons
LepreCon 05.06.15	Movie was awesome, saw it three times, give it a 4/5 for the fun factor alone. Ultron was a bit of a limp dick villain though James Spader's acting made up for it almost.
SharkTooth 05.06.15	"define substance" "The subject matter of a text, speech, or work of art, especially as contrasted with the form or style in which it is presented." basically the MCU movies are more concerned about presenting the stories than the stories themselves
ExplosiveOranges 05.06.15	^ this
deathschool 05.06.15	Come to think of it, Age of Ultron wasn't exactly an apt title considering Ultron was in power for like a week.
PotsyTater 05.06.15	"yeah the Avengers movies know their audience really well" this is true. unfortunately their audience is beta as fuck tho so that leaves a lot of the actual comic fans feeling unfulfilled
Hyperion1001 05.06.15	mad max looks cool yeah
PotsyTater 05.06.15	im gonna see the fuck out of mad max and the new ant man and fantastic four and jurassic world
PotsyTater 05.06.15	"Come to think of it, Age of Ultron wasn't exactly an apt title considering Ultron was in power for like a week." it was called age of ultron because the story it was based on was called age of ultron. please, reinforce my comments about u talking about movies with 0 history or background knowledge further than you already have.
BallsToTheWall 05.06.15	Ultron was a bit of a limp dick villain though James Spader's acting made up for it almost (2)
deathschool 05.06.15	I know it was based on the comix, dood. I'm saying that for the movie it doesn't work because it was in no way an "age".
zaruyache 05.06.15	"and the new ant man and fantastic four and jurassic world" I want to see Ex Machina too but it's not available anywhere near me, unless I want to drive three hours to like Pittsburgh or something. in the context of the film the title fits if you look at the actual "age of ultron" as the hypothetical future Stark wants the project to usher in.
BallsToTheWall 05.06.15	Glasses up for Quicksilver being such a hero. Que the violins.
PotsyTater 05.06.15	ultron was an awesome villain, that was like the best part of the movie is their humorous take on him. in the comics he's grim as fuck and in the movie he was just kind of like this dry witted misunderstood funny guy
PotsyTater 05.06.15	"I know it was based on the comix, dood. I'm saying that for the movie it doesn't work because it was in no way an "age"." yeah but it does work because its the fucking name of the comic its based off and also what zaruyache said now foad
TheSpirit 05.06.15	that new fantastic four looks terrible
PotsyTater 05.06.15	it really doesn't. i mean i got all onboard that whole "im a sheep and fantastic four looks bad because thats what i am told" thing for a while too when everyone else was bitching about it (without seeing a single second of footage) but the new trailer put all that to rest.
deathschool 05.06.15	Potsy, you have responded to literally every comment I've made ITT. Get off my dick tbh.
BallsToTheWall 05.06.15	Pixels on the other hand is a MOTY contender.
PotsyTater 05.06.15	@death yeah usually when two people have a discussion in which each comment is directed at the other person it results in responses u fucking dumbass
PotsyTater 05.06.15	"death school ur opinion sux" "but potsy i dont know anything" "i know uve made that clear" "but pots dude avatar rox and is a good artistic movie" "no its not deathschool" "yeah but pots bro pots it is" "no" "dude ur responding to all my comments get off my teeny weeny"
ExplosiveOranges 05.06.15	James Spader was pretty badass as Ultron, although I feel like they did rush his origin story a bit. Also, Fantastic Four does look like it could actually be pretty good, especially since they've got Miles Teller on board.
zaruyache 05.06.15	the trailers made Ultron look super gritty and evil and that was really what I was looking for. Not really disappointed but his "all over the place" character did hinder the flow here and there. I mean I was expecting super evil badguy, and here I am getting Wheatley from Half-life 2. also who are these poopheads saying new Fantastic Four looks bad? I like that it looks a lot darker than the originals. Gonna be good and I will acknowledge no comments to the contrary la la la la la la la
deathschool 05.06.15	It's more like: deathschool: doles objectively correct opinion potsy: that is the most retarded thing i've ever heard in my life. i'm throwing our friendship away, and i hate you forever. deathschool: gives level headed response unscathed by emotional overtones potsy: murders an innocent bystander's family
BallsToTheWall 05.06.15	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z4OHcU4cWo
zaruyache 05.06.15	when captain or whoever shot a bullet up at quicksilver through the glass floor, it appeared to move fairly slowly to him. You're telling me he couldn't have just tapped those bullets out of the way, or just pushed the car up from the other side so he wasn't standing where bullets would actually push into his skin as he moved the car? fasjl;fasjkfl;jfkl;sdaf
deathschool 05.06.15	"when captain or whoever shot a bullet up at quicksilver through the glass floor, it appeared to move fairly slowly to him. You're telling me he couldn't have just tapped those bullets out of the way, or just pushed the car up from the other side so he wasn't standing where bullets would actually push into his skin as he moved the car?" That's how marvel is going to bring him back. He actually dodged all the bullets and had enough time to do the wound makeup to make everyone think he died. Also, Scarlett Witch was just upset cuz she was on her period, "cuz lol that's how girlz work right?" (Joss Whedon logic)
MeatSalad 05.06.15	"deathschool: doles objectively correct opinion" you're a funny guy
PotsyTater 05.06.15	"Also, Scarlett Witch was just upset cuz she was on her period, "cuz lol that's how girlz work right?" (Joss Whedon logic)" u are so fucking stupid jesus christ
Intothepit 05.06.15	If you think Avengers set a precedent, then you know nothing about superhero movies at all.
PotsyTater 05.06.15	thank u
TalonsOfFire 05.13.15	I enjoyed it well enough, the original might be slightly better though. My favorite Marvel movie in the past couple years would have to be Captain America: The Winter Soldier, am hoping the third one lives up to it.
MeatSalad 05.13.15	third one is basically going to be an avengers movie
TalonsOfFire 05.13.15	Winter Soldier probably should've been an Avengers movie, you'd think the whole corruption and ending of S.H.I.E.L.D. would be enough to bring them all together
IncurablyInane 05.13.15	Saw this the other night a really enjoyed it minus a few things. Not as good as the first one, but still a really good film nonetheless. I may have just somehow missed this while watching the movie, but after Ultron had basically been stopped by Iron Man, Thor, and Vision (I think?), did anyone catch how he got away? I thought it was strange to suddenly see him mowing down Quicksilver after I thought he had basically been stopped... did I just miss something or???
zaruyache 05.13.15	There's a quick scene where one of his copies sneaks away and steals Tony's jet-thing, I believe.
MeatSalad 05.13.15	"Winter Soldier probably should've been an Avengers movie, you'd think the whole corruption and ending of S.H.I.E.L.D. would be enough to bring them all together" yeah that was fucked, they made no effort to explain it either. thankfully they're avoiding any such bullshit in that vein with the third movie having an appropriately massive cast
IncurablyInane 05.13.15	That makes sense. Not sure how I missed that. Thanks for clearin that up
Sevengill 05.13.15	Going on a date this Saturday, dinner and a movie with this as the movie. Should be epic.
zaruyache 05.13.15	bow chika wow wow chika wow wow