Artuma
03.27.15 | a change of seasons man |
Snowdog808
03.27.15 | I love that song too. Clearly all three of these bands made dozens of legendary tracks. |
IronGiant
03.27.15 | I know it's very mainstream of me, but I really enjoy Pull Me Under |
MotoOnSputnik
03.28.15 | IDK if I'd call these "the big three of progressive metal". Queensyrche has 1 awesome album, maybe 2-3 good albums, and a bunch of average albums. DT has two great albums and the rest are good, but not amazing. And I've never heard of Fates Warning |
Snowdog808
03.28.15 | Basically Mindcrime and Empire popularized the genre, while Perfect Symmetry, Images and Words, and Scenes boast numerous major imitators in the genre. |
MotoOnSputnik
03.28.15 | I think you could call them forerunners, but I wouldn't say they're the big three at all. If I had to pick a big three I'd probably say Tool, Isis, and Opeth. Those bands are well-known (which is a factor, the big four of thrash were all well-known) and have more accomplished discographies as a whole. |
MotoOnSputnik
03.28.15 | DT is a contender though, just not the other two |
MotoOnSputnik
03.28.15 | On second thought Isis probably doesn't belong there. I'd say Tool, Opeth, and Dream Theater. All are good representatives of different subgenres too. |
Snowdog808
03.28.15 | But the big four of thrash are also traditional thrash bands just like prog's big three became traditional prog metal bands, unlike the alt-prog metal Tool and prog death metal Opeth. Unlike Tool and Opeth, the big three were responsible for pulling the genre out of the complete underground that bands like Watchtower had it at, and Tool and Opeth, however popular, are two bands the prog metal scene would exist without, unlike the big three. I would give you the fact that it would be hard to imagine the prog metal scene without those two considering how much impact they had for non-first wave bands. |
Snowdog808
03.28.15 | Also, I am far from the first to call these three the big three, as many, including the Prog Archives, have called them that before me quite possibly since 1992. |
MotoOnSputnik
03.28.15 | Well in 1992 the groups I listed weren't quite around yet. Like I said I think you can call the forerunners, because that's what they are, but I don't think you can call a band a member of the big 3 based on one classic album, even if it started/lit a flame in the genre. King Crimson wouldn't be one of the greatest prog rock bands if every album after ITCOTCK was mediocre. Metallica wouldn't have been in the big four if everything after Ride the Lightning sucked, etc. |
MotoOnSputnik
03.28.15 | They would have been forerunners, which is what Queensyrche is. Besides them, like I said I think I'd put Dream Theater in the "big three" and I haven't heard of the other group so I can't comment on them. |
Snowdog808
03.28.15 | It's fine if you don't consider Queensryche and Fates Warning part of the big three, but the majority of prog experts or nerds are likely to disagree strongly. I'm honestly more interested in what your favorite DT and Queensryche songs are. |
BeneaththeDarkOcean
03.28.15 | Metropolis, Pt. 1 is a masterpiece, and Learning to Live is my other favorite off Images and Words. A Change of Seasons definitely ranks up there. The Count of Tuscany is one of my absolute favorites. I'm actually one of the few who adores A Dramatic Turn of Events, so I'd put Breaking All Illusions and even a track like Outcry up near my favorite DT. I love the electronica/drum machine influence Jordan Rudess brought to the latter song, it gave them a fresh sound. That's why I was disappointed when the self-titled record completely eschewed that innovation. Ah well. |
JohnnyoftheWell
03.28.15 | The three most overrated DT songs, nice. |
NeroCorleone80
03.28.15 | These are the big 3, Moto whether you like it or not. |
JamieTwort
03.28.15 | Nice list. It's been too long since I've listened to these bands in depth for me to name a solid top 3 but I can say that all of these are relatively good choices.
The Ivory Gates of Dreams would definitely be in my top 3 Fates songs, despite how disjointed it may be a times. |
Sabrutin
03.28.15 | "Queensyrche has 1 awesome album, maybe 2-3 good albums"
Dude, smh.
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Snowdog808
03.28.15 | I will admit the Ryche has their fair share of shitty albums, but the first five albums are lyrical masterpieces, the first three especially having some of metal's greatest vocal performances. I like Michael Kiske a lot, but I think what he did, Geoff Tate did better as much as 4 years earlier. |
Snowdog808
03.28.15 | Thanks to Jamie for liking my picks by the way. I know some of the transitions on "Ivory Gate" could be developed further, but overall I find it to be an early multi-sectioned prog metal masterpiece. I know Zimmerman is not as good as Zonder or Jarzombek, but he keeps the song together quite nicely. |
manosg
03.29.15 | Sweet list Snow. The Ivory Gates of Dreams is probably my favorite Fates Warning while A Change of Seasons is definitely my favorite DT. Regarding Queensryche, I'd say Suite Sister, I Don't Believe in Love and Eyes Of A Stranger are the tracks I enjoy most from Operation: Mindcrime but I haven't checked the band's discog yet. |
Parallels
03.29.15 | eh id say
Queensryche-The Mission,Spreading the Disease,I Will Remember
Fates Warning-Ivory Gate of Dreams, The Arena, Still Remains
Dream Theater-Scarred,Stream Of Consciousness,A Change of Seasons |
Snowdog808
03.29.15 | I love "Stream of Consciousness" too. It's my second favorite Dream Theater instrumental and second favorite on Train of Thought. |
