bakkermaarten007: My Brother Wants To Die

bakkermaarten007 01.21.15	He's my twin brother. I feel I could've done more in the past, always kinda guided him. I should've done so even more these past 4 years, but education absorbed time. I
MeatSalad 01.21.15	I think the best thing you can do for him is to stick with him and do what you can to limit his substance abuse. I doubt moving away from him is going to make you feel better, while i could just be talking out of my ass i think you'll get destroyed by guilt especially if you leave and he kills himself. Its a shitty situation but I'd say just stick it out and help as much as you can. For all you know you could be the sole reason he hasn't done it yet
Torontonian 01.21.15	"In our country you can't force him to get help unless it's very severe" sounds pretty severe to me. Sounds like getting help is the best option but you probably know better than me.
MeatSalad 01.21.15	^ yeah if he's clearly at risk of harming himself then im sure you could force him if it's gotten to that point
Muisc4Life26 01.21.15	Man that's horrible, has he gone to rehab yet? maybe that'll help him.
bakkermaarten007 01.21.15	"sounds pretty severe to me. Sounds like getting help is the best option but you probably know better than me." Getting institutionalized is normally reserved for criminal offenders with psychological issues. There's a workaround to do this, but as you can probably tell the consequences for him would be dire, but it might save his life. It's so uncertain. @muisc: no, he hasn't. He is utterly convinced he's the only one who can 'get' his world view and all the wicked things that come with it. I'm not sure he'd accept any help if you'd put a gun to his head. He only visits his psychiatrist from time to time, for the sole reason of getting his antidepressants. @meatsalad: you wouldn't believe how apt he is at finding sleeping pills, anti-anxiety pills and alcohol. It's nearly impossible to keep him from those things.
Titan 01.21.15	agreed with Torontonian.....make it happen bakker and good luck
MeatSalad 01.21.15	Dude probably has a steady source of channels or hiding places, my dad was the same way. Only way we got him off the sauce was kicking him out of the house but i somewhat doubt something like that would help your brother
dixoncocks 01.21.15	Being his twin brother, you really need to stay with him. You understand and can relate to him on a level no one else can fathom. But if he is this sick, you have to be the stronger sibling in the situation and initiate some good conversation over a long walk. Maybe not even as a brother, but as a very concerned friend. It may take an insane amount of time for his situation to get any better, but you need to just chip away at him and bring him back to reality. It's fucking exhausting, but that's what brothers do for each other. Also he is most likely not going to see any progress if he continues his substance abuse.
deathschool 01.21.15	Sputnik is pretty cool sometimes. Stick with him dude. What he needs the most right now is someone who gives a shit.
SharkTooth 01.21.15	That sucks dude, the only thing I can suggest is maybe taking him to a neighboring country like France where the laws might help(this is just a guess), but idk
deathschool 01.21.15	But it's shitty you're going through this man. It really is. Just. Make him understand you care. And know that you're doing good by trying to help him. There is only so much you can do, and you know how much that is better than anyone here. Stick with him to the best of your ability. But keep yourself in mind too. You know your limits. Sorry. It's hard to know what to say about these types of things.
Negator 01.21.15	damn it man. That is really really brutal and painful to read. I sincerely feel for you man. My suggestion to deal with this very hard situation comes from an experience I just had this winter. I went to Colombia for the winter, it has been 10 years since I was there. I was just 10-11 years old when I first went there. This time going there I was a grown man, doing adult shit. And one thing I realized was; watching kids my age/younger get up early to sell water and fruits to cars at redlights. Or kids hustling to let them be your guide to a island. Or other kids, beautiful young girls selling themselves literally on the corner. I realized one thing. I have depression sometimes. Very lethargic and encoraching depression. I have negative thoughts that impair my ability to live the fullest life I can. I realized that these kids, will never have the life I have. That I dont have to worry about food, or new clothes. That I got an education, they didnt. ect ect. My point is I realized how lucky I am, maybe thats what your brother needs. Now I dont know your struggle financially or anything. But here in the states I'm poor. Like I get mad grants of $$ from the government poor. Sounds like he needs a eye opening experience, something that'll wake him up and revitalize him.
LambsBread 01.21.15	get him to smoke some weed, its a good crutch to get off of harder addictions. Eventually though he's probably gonna need to go to rehab or Alcoholics Anonymous and make some friends that can relate to him and aren't bad influences. Otherwise he's always going to turn to alcohol and drugs to forget about his troubles. What he is doing is drowning out that voice in his mind that says "you are being stupid, stop doing this, you are harming yourself greatly" - he knows what is right in his mind, but the cravings of his body tell him to get drunk so he can mute that annoying voice in his head.
bach 01.21.15	sorry to hear about this bakker. you've always been a rill one so i hope things start to look up
LambsBread 01.21.15	kinda need more info about your brother to give advice... is he single? if so i'd go out to a bar and try to find him a date if this were my brother, i'd buy an ounce of weed, simpsons seasons 2-9, and would watch em for like a week high as fuck and we'd both probably forget what alcohol was. also maybe try traveling or at least getting him some time off work or whatever... thats all I got, I hope hes ok
zakalwe 01.21.15	Certainly not an enviable situation here. The problems run deep with your brother, the burden must be a fucking nightmare but the real issue needs to be rooted out in order to progress. Talk to him, really talk to him.
TomorrowIsTuesday 02.08.15	I agree with what lambs bread said. just try and get his mind off of his issues for a little while. whether it's traveling, going to a bar or club, anything to get his mind out of the fog. and then maybe introduce things that are constructive such as exercise, eating healthier, and avoiding substance abuse. people are only open to change when their perspective has changed