KrazyKris: Dookie Ranked

KrazyKris 10.24.14	OVERRATED
Ryus 10.24.14	3 is 1
AmericanFlagAsh 10.24.14	No 1 is definitely 1
KrazyKris 10.24.14	~3 is 1~ Expect to read that comment at least half a dozen times now
YakNips 10.24.14	2 is 1 imo
Snake. 10.24.14	insomniac is better
KriegdemKriege 10.24.14	Lol I disagree with this list so hard.
KrazyKris 10.24.14	@Snake Nope, much worse
danielcardoso 10.24.14	Dookie's among my list of favorite albums, it's a seminal album in 1990's alternative rock/punk music for me. If I ranked it, however, it would've come out a lot different. For example, Chump, Pulling Teeth and F.O.D. should be a lot higher, while In The End and Coming Clean should've been placed a couple of spots below. Your Top 5 is probably mine too, only in a different order.
JoylessBastard 10.24.14	Top 5 is spot on correct
KrazyKris 10.24.14	@danielcardoso I never liked it that much. Maybe just cause I was born in '94 and therefore didn't witness the whole pop punk thing. But I always thought there were many bands that did a better job in that genre after GD's 90's stuff. Chump is the only one that really is cemented at that lost spot. Never liked it. Everything between 9 and 13 is pretty much interchangeable though, don't give too much about any of these tracks.
BMDrummer 10.24.14	insomniac is better [2]
KrazyKris 10.24.14	What is it with you people and Insomniac? No one has ever explained that to me.
VolcanoDay 10.24.14	5 is 1, but otherwise top 5 is spot on. 9 should be higher, mind.
scottpilgrim10 10.24.14	14 and 13 should be in the top 5
Artuma 10.24.14	kerplunk is better
scottpilgrim10 10.24.14	yup
KrazyKris 10.24.14	nope
Kurai 10.24.14	Can't disagree with number 1. 13 would definitely be 14 for me, and 10 would be in the top 5
ConcubinaryCode 10.24.14	21st century breakdown is better.
Muisc4Life26 10.24.14	3 is 1 but why is Chump last??
KrazyKris 10.24.14	~21st century breakdown is better.~ Don't know if trolling, can't judge the LP though, cause I only know the singles
ConcubinaryCode 10.24.14	Then how will you ever know???
KrazyKris 10.24.14	@Muisc I never liked it both lyrically and sonically. I generally have a little problem with Dookie's lyrics, some of them more, some less. And musically it's pretty boring, only showing again that they aren't really good, when aiming for a harder sound.
danielcardoso 10.25.14	Dookie > Kerplunk > Insomniac
KrazyKris 10.25.14	AI >> Dookie > Warning > Nimrod >> Insomniac >> Kerplunk / haven't listened to the rest yet
Derek521 10.25.14	When I was younger I thought Dookie and American Idiot was the best, now i think it's 1. Insomniac 2. American Idiot 3. Dookie. All three are classics imo though.
KrazyKris 10.25.14	Really can't work with Insomniac, it's like one big monotonous song except for Armatage Shanks and Walking Contradiction. Everything else melts together to some lazy riffs and indistinguishable mumbling of BJA
Artuma 10.25.14	AI >> Dookie > Warning > Nimrod >> Insomniac >> Kerplunk" fuck this
KrazyKris 10.25.14	haven't we already elaborated that we're heading into completely different directions when it comes to GD?
Artuma 10.25.14	i don't think so because i never visit the gd threads but we can elaborate it now
KrazyKris 10.25.14	Well, you already weren't happy with Kerplunk on my overrated list, so I guess I somehow know what you like about them. What I don't know is, if there's any nostalgia involved for you, cause that would have nothing to do with the musical quality. For me it's just that they sound unbelievably lazy and out of place whenever they try to sound like a punk band. I mean, Dookie isn't really a punk record and Insomniac seems like such a poor attempt to make a heavier album. I like their later efforts more because they're far more diverse and not all about how bored and fucked up they are as teenagers. Out of those AI is definitely the most ambitious and best executed.
danielcardoso 10.25.14	"Really can't work with Insomniac, it's like one big monotonous song except for Armatage Shanks and Walking Contradiction. Everything else melts together to some lazy riffs and indistinguishable mumbling of BJA" I think you have to do some relistening. Armatage Shanks isn't even one of Insomniac's best songs. Insomniac is great because it's so ridiculously simple yet so catchy and energetic. 86, Bab's Uvula Who, Jaded, Geek Stink Breath and Stuart And The Ave are all great songs.
Artuma 10.25.14	i don't have any gd nostalgia, also kerplunk is the only good gd i've heard. the more raw punk style suits them a lot better than the pop rock of their later albums
danielcardoso 10.25.14	For me, nostalgia plays a great factor when I'm listening to Green Day, but even if it didn't, Green Day is better as a straightforward punk band than as a generic radio rock/political band. That's easy to see, I mean, American Idiot was an awesome album but 21st Century Breakdown in comparison is far worse. Also, how can you not dig Kerplunk, Kris?
KrazyKris 10.25.14	~Insomniac is great because it's so ridiculously simple yet so catchy and energetic. 86, Bab's Uvula Who, Jaded, Geek Stink Breath and Stuart And The Ave are all great songs.~ 86 and Jaded are pretty good, the rest is meh. Merely can tell the difference between them. Geek Stink Breath is particularly ridiculous though. And to me it's isn't energetic and even less catchy. Also, GD was never a straightforward punk band. Come on, if I think of punk then that's Bad Religion, Dead Kennedys, maybe early Offspring. GD is pop punk and they were good at that, because Armstrong knows how to write catchy hooks and he did it on Kerplunk, Dookie and Nimrod. But they were never as energetic as a punk band should be, even more so as their lyrics are everything but energetic or powerful (on Dookie it's the exact opposite). Looking at their later work at least Warning seems underrated. It has so many catchy hooks, is both more fun and more mature than Insomniac and and has much more to offer sonically, even if it is a bit monotonous on the whole. Kerplunk has some jams in the first half, but at some point it just gets less interesting with every track and the Sweet Children EP is just ridiculously crappy produced
danielcardoso 10.25.14	"Looking at their later work at least Warning seems underrated. It has so many catchy hooks, is both more fun and more mature than Insomniac and and has much more to offer sonically, even if it is a bit monotonous on the whole. Kerplunk has some jams in the first half, but at some point it just gets less interesting with every track and the Sweet Children EP is just ridiculously crappy produced" Warning does receive some unwarranted hate sometimes. It's got some great tracks, such as Waiting, Minority, Macy's Day Parade and Castaway, and Billie's step up in songwriting was amazing, but it's a notch below Green Day's past stuff. As for Kerplunk, I haven't checked out Sweet Children EP besides My Generation, but if you only consider Kerplunk's songs from its original version it's a pretty solid album. Some of its songs are Green Day's best, and it was an album that helped define 1990's underground punk music in a great way.
VaxXi 10.25.14	8-1 is 100% correct
zakalwe 10.25.14	I had this when it came out. The poster of the album cover was hung up on my bedroom door. Album was good, band are shite, Longview is monumental.
KrazyKris 10.25.14	@zak don't know why, but I never liked the cover art @daniel Definitely forgot Blood, Sex & Booze. The only two I don't really like are Church On Sunday and Jackass. For Kerplunk the only tracks that made a lasting impression are the first four. It starts off really good, but it loses me so damn fast. Except for Words I Might Have Ate there isn't anything else I would say I like (I know everyone points to Who Wrote Holden Caulfield?, but I think its nothing special). All in all it just seems so damn average. And there's Dominated Love Slave, which would be bad even as a Bloodhound Gang track. Never got why people seem to like it more than Offspring's Ignition that came out the same year.