BigPleb: Joined the Gym

BigPleb 08.12.14	Honestly the best decision I ever made. Also, swimming rules m/ Also also, any tips/advice would be greatly appreciated!
scottpilgrim10 08.12.14	Good to hear, I'll definitely at least try to work out 3 days a week while in college.
bach 08.12.14	the smiths - meat is muder
BigPleb 08.12.14	hard
SourAK 08.12.14	never worked out a day in my life and im an adonis
BigPleb 08.12.14	@IWill Don't wanna end up looking like a triangle man haha, need to condition every muscle.
Phlegm 08.12.14	uHhh i gotta stop delaying!!!!
BigPleb 08.12.14	Enjoying it all tbh, a swim after workout is probably the nicest feeling ever haha.
FearTomorrow 08.12.14	awesome dude jam some integrity hard next time you're pumping iron also i agree swimming is the best thing ever
BigPleb 08.12.14	My form will def improve if i jam Ulcerate, agreed Jac. @demi fuck ya man, essential lifting jams right there. Ye man, works every muscle and I find it really therapeutic m/
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Gasp - the revelation, physical exercise is good for your energy levels! Also: Everything can be incorporated into a curl. Except for the squat rack. Don't be that guy.
BigPleb 08.12.14	Lol, well I'm used to being a anxiety ridden recluse dude, so I'm kinda proud that I've got off my ass and finally done something bout it.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Gotta break that self-reinforcing cycle, dude. Plus: One way ticket to the gain station on the Arnold express.
Gwyn. 08.12.14	I started going to the gym not too long ago, only do a little bit of weight though I gotta do a lotta cardio first and lose some fat before strictly working on the muscles did like a half hour weight lifting to Sabbath like a week ago tho it was awesome
BigPleb 08.12.14	Ye, I feel like I'm making a breakthrough dude. @Gwyn Swee dude, I've also noticed at how much music helps to rep to. Man the first few sessions without my iPod were hard to say the least haha.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Just don't do crossfit or otherwise stupid/dangerous shit, be consistent and you'll be good.
BigPleb 08.12.14	MO told me the same thing, apparently they encourage bad form cos of the speedlifting etc.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Because it's accurate. They encourage all kinds of dangerous shit and dogmatic behavior and justify it with stuff like "you're just getting stronger" (when you're fucking up your joints, ankles and ligaments - that are a lot more fragile than your muscles) Not to mention that all the "circle training" nature of it just intensifies the whole "bad form" thing. (which is also more likely to give you muscular imbalances)
Gwyn. 08.12.14	yeah I hate going to the gym without music but my headphones are broke :/ music they put on the gyms not too bad tho at least as background music mostly, theres a new guy selecting the music and he put a wu-tang song the other day, that was sweeet af
BigPleb 08.12.14	@Wolf Ye, one of my friends does it but he seems to be losing interest and just going to the actual gym instead. Seems unhealthy, all that ''speed workout' shit. @Gwyn Damn man you got lucky, Lana Del Ray was on the other day like HOW THE FUCK CAN I WORKOUT TO THAT?!
InfamousGrouse 08.12.14	"Trying to combine different parts of my body as I have been finding it hard to dedicate a hard 1 hour session to just one muscle." Is that even a thing? Also my advice to you is find a premade cardio schedule and stick to it. I dropped a ton of weight last summer due to predesigned workouts on muscleandfitness.com
BigPleb 08.12.14	As in not just focusing on biceps for an hour and combine it with triceps. E.g. not just curls and incorporating it with tricep pulldowns etc. I know that's basic shit but I've heard a lot of different thing from people.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	He is probably referring to compounds vs. isolation and same muscle group exercise sets vs supersets or something of the kind so yeah that is actually a thing. Also, most people don't do 1h isolation sessions with just one muscle group. And I don't think he's necessarily aiming to lose a lot of weight, he certainly doesn't look like he needs to. And whether an exercise routine is premade or not is utterly irrelevant. If you're a beginner, you have a somewhat okay schedule and don't go cheap on your form pretty much anything works if you're consistent. People focus way too much on the merits of different programs.
BigPleb 08.12.14	@Wolf Ye, pretty much what I was referring to. Not really looking to lose weight as I am a good weight for size, I have broadness on my side (in terms of shoulders) and I'm enjoying just mostly blowing off steam. Does get quite addictive though haha.
InfamousGrouse 08.12.14	I don't have a clue what he looks like or what he weighs, he just asked for advice or tips so I gave one that helped me a bunch. As a beginner I found them a godsend and a good motivational outlet, otherwise I would've been utterly clueless having never really worked out before.
BigPleb 08.12.14	Its greatly appreciated Grouse, don't worry :]
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Again, not a bad thing as far as you don't get stupid on form or start getting cocky - the worst thing that can happen is overreaching and maybe a bit of overstretching that you'll recover from within a reasonable time. And I'm just saying that not every method works the same for everyone because people have different biomechanics, general fitness levels, different NEAT levels and some such and so on so people should figure out for themselves what works. I can't do shit in terms of continuous cardio for example because that's one of the rare occurences where my asthma strikes.
BigPleb 08.12.14	Definitely finding the ab workouts the hardest to do atm, legs I'm not too bad with as I used to cycle a lot.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Well, core muscles are often underutilized especially if your job consists of a lot of sitting around. If you do any amount of free weight compounds they'll be in there automatically too, though. (especially overhead lifts, squats and deadlifts)
BigPleb 08.12.14	Ye, I work in an office lol. Well I did arms + chest last night, so I'll prob do some ab work tonight. Not aching yet haha, that will come within the next few hours though haha. Can feel it creeping up on me!
InfamousGrouse 08.12.14	I'm in my second week back of using the gym for the first time since January, I kept up cardio living abroad but my upper body strength is completely pitiful at the moment. The first two days were absolute hell.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	That goes away relatively quickly once you progress, though. I barely ever get sore anymore despite my workout frequency (pretty much every day, sometimes twice a day like during my FL stay)
BigPleb 08.12.14	Rest is gonna be important for me just starting out, gotta find a balance. Don't wanna under-do and get lazy but don't wanna overdo it and get injured. @Wolf Damn dude, you must be Arney's apprentice.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Nah man, I just have a lot of energy and my body adapts pretty quickly. Plus "active rest" - not every workout is the same intensity/scope. But for someone who is past beginner levels it makes no sense to do solely passive rest anymore unless you really can't help yourself and and go crazy. I also become very unpleasant if I don't exercise for prolonged periods of time. (at least if I'm not busy in general)
BigPleb 08.12.14	I can see that happening to me tbh haha, already becoming quite intense with it and I feel a bit disappointed if I can't do as much as I'd like.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Ultimately "benchmarks" don't matter, what matters is that you progress. And some people are just simply better at some things due their body proportions. If you've got monkey arms you'll have a natural disadvantage at the bench for example.
BigPleb 08.12.14	My strength is definitely arms and chest. As I said, I'm naturally quite broad so the fact that I have a better reach helps me in some respects.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Definitely advantegous from a physique (training) standpoint. Oh, another advantage of regular exercise is the amount of delicious stuff you can enjoy.
BigPleb 08.12.14	Workmates are taking the piss outta me now, got a chicken & egg sandwich for dinner with salad hahaha.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Now I have the image of some monthy python-esque dudes yammering on about how you can be such a sissy with your salad and sandwich while they either eat Fish & Chips or a British breakfast on toast stuck in my head for the rest of the day.
BigPleb 08.12.14	They aren't very Monty Python, but agreed some of them aren't very happy about the addition of salad!
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Motherfuckers probably never had a proper Caesar salad.
BigPleb 08.12.14	Feta cheese is the one.
tommygun 08.12.14	good lad pleb
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Wut. You don't need any specific meal to make gains. Adequate protein supply + adequate glucose supply for muscle glyocgen + caloric surplus => gains.
R6Rider 08.12.14	Good for you Pleby. There's a lot of advice to give, but for now all I'm gonna say is make sure you eat well throughout the day and drink enough water.
TheNotrap 08.12.14	Epicus is an unpredictable lifting jam :] Cool list.
Kman418 08.12.14	ive tried working out on a frequent basis for a solid 3 month period both times and felt 0 benefits from it
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Which means absolutely nothing because it all depends on how frequent you did it, what kind of routine you did, what results you expected, general fitness levels etc.
MO 08.12.14	keep it going hard dude m/
Kman418 08.12.14	yeah tbh i put 0 thought into it i just did whatever workouts came to mind cos i really dont care much about it but i heard it was good for anxiety and general self confidence and it did absolutely nothing to help with either so i got bored and stopped
MO 08.12.14	"Heres some advice: Fuck leg workouts." oh and don't listen to this idiot
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	So you didn't REALLY want it. And I can tell you right now, if you don't REALLY want it, if you slug yourself through just because you feel you have to you're not going to achieve jackshit. Same goes for people who say they really want to but can't find time.
BigPleb 08.12.14	Kman, if you don't put the effort in how the hell are you gonna know if it helps or not? I can guarantee you know exercise is one of the best ways to combat anxiety.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Got me rid of panic attacks within like 1-2 months.
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	good shit you fukin pleb starting to go the gym a few years ago was just a do what my friends were doing kind of thing, but i stuck with it and it's become a passion of mine with immense physical / mental benefits the key is to do something sustainable and never stop
Xar 08.12.14	never been to a gym before ._.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	"the key is to do something sustainable and never stop" ^^^ This sentence. That is what programs should be built around, not "quick fix" bullshit that will just backfire in the long run.
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	ultimately, your body tries to adapt to optimally perform whatever consistent routine you are currently performing, using what tools it has available to it (diet) once you take away your routine, your body stops adapting / maintaining for that previous state, and will revert back to an energy preserving machine (fat gain, muscle loss to reduce metabolism)
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Homoestasis. The issue is that people with different metabolisms and "starting points" have different points of homoestasis, naturally lean people for example will often have a harder time gaining fat AND muscle. People who have always been overweight/have had higher BF% will put on both easier because that's the baseline tendency of their body. And then there's NEAT or non-exercise induced activity that's mostly unconscious (but probably also affecting said baselines).
henryChinaski 08.12.14	Been thinking about joining one too. I should really do that haha
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	it's important to use one of the detailed calculators online to give your a rough idea where your daily caloric levels are at, start being consistent with it, and monitor how your body responds to it over time, because yeah, there's a lot of variation between people and there's no way to determine an individuals metabolic levels without trial and error
ScuroFantasma 08.12.14	Good on you for joining man, also 2 is great.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	At least for the beginning. I mean I don't do exact calculations anymore (well, not that they're exact anyway because none of the variables is really constant) but I gauge protein intake and fiber intake (as the other ones are usually non-issues) and adjust other levels based on context. I don't put on weight easily, though.
Xar 08.12.14	I think I need a lot more protein in my diet. I don't really dig a lot of meats (I'll eat them if they're around but not going out to buy em) so what are some other things I could eat instead?
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	i'm at the opposite end of the spectrum where i easily put on fat growing up. it's a lot different now that my lean mass has increased but i still have to monitor carb intake for sure.
Kman418 08.12.14	anywho theres other ways of dealing with anxiety that i actually enjoy and are more productive for me so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
BigPleb 08.12.14	¯¯_(ツ)_/¯ indeed!
Kman418 08.12.14	also for the record i actually really did care about trying both times for like the first month and a half but after feeling absolutely nothing different after that time i was like nah this is dumb
Kman418 08.12.14	good for u tho do ur thing
BigPleb 08.12.14	Fair enough broski, it ain't for everyone
MuhNamesTyler 08.12.14	"Heres some advice: Fuck leg workouts." I live for leg day
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	a month and a half is nothing, especially for the inexperienced, but anyway
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	"yeah tbh i put 0 thought into it i just did whatever workouts came to mind cos i really dont care much about it" well then what did you expect lol find a calorie calculator, find your maintenance level, eat 150+ grams of protein a day, look up starting strength 5x5, do that 3 times a week for three months, come back and tell me how thankful you are
R6Rider 08.12.14	"Heres some advice: Fuck leg workouts." lol Yeah seriously ignore this. Even if you absolutely hate doing legs make sure you at least squat.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	I think it makes more sense to go with the g/lb of LBM or 2g/kg of LBM. There's no need to go TOTALLY overboard on protein intake (diminishing returns and so on). You also don't really need to do a "magic number" program (Rippetoe loves his 5s). I mean yeah, that's probably gonna work if you wanna be lazy. If you know a bit about what you're doing you can easily figure things out for yourself. And it doesn't take a biochemist to get a general understanding of that kinda stuff.
BigPleb 08.12.14	guitard and wolf know their shit.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	I wouldn't even think in terms of individual muscle groups/day tbh but just upper/lower body. @Pleb: As I said, it's just practical to know how shit works. In case you're interested, Layne Norton, Alan Aragon and Lyle McDonald and their "affiliates" have pretty solid info out there without any bullshit pretense.
BigPleb 08.12.14	Do you think swimming is a good post-gym workout, Wolf?
Kman418 08.12.14	i mean currently instead im just learning to 3D cos thats a skill that will help me down the road given the sorts of careers im interested in and is also way more interesting and fun for me AND also actually helps a lot with my anxiety and self confidence which is the only reason i even decided to try working out in the first place but whatever
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Idk, that comes down to what you expect from it. But in general: If you're enjoying it and not pulling a 60 year old man in his speedo speed - go to town, you're more likely to stick with it. Probably makes for good cardio and depending on what form you have while swimming you'll also get some upper body in. It probably also has the added benefit of being refreshing.
R6Rider 08.12.14	Yeah Wolfe is pretty much saying everything I would have said lol
Kman418 08.12.14	anyways ill stop ruining this thread see u
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	I think the g/lb of LBM is more of a goal, and if one is focused on maximizing protein intake while reaching their daily caloric levels, their macro ratios are probably going to be pretty good. I think a beginner needs to stick to a program because frankly they don't know what they are doing, and the routine will remove doubts about their routine. Plus, the linear progression of a SS 5x5 routine will show them that they are consistently progressing --> motivation to keep going. 5x5s are shown to be the quickest way to gain pure strength over time too. You're right, but I'm saying all this under the assumption they don't know what they're doing. I wouldn't do anything but follow a preplanned routine like the above for a year. Then you can make adjustments based on where your personal goals and weaknesses lie.
BigPleb 08.12.14	@R6 There is only one 'Wolfe'... Ye I guess Wolf dude, all comes down to personal preference.
anarchistfish 08.12.14	"Trying to combine different parts of my body as I have been finding it hard to dedicate a hard 1 hour session to just one muscle" yh i don't think this is a good idea i found my results exploded when i just kept things simple and started doing full body workouts every other day. you don't need to do that many different exercises just for one muscle group. at least, not when you're a beginner
anarchistfish 08.12.14	compound workouts rule
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	^yep. I spent a solid year in the gym fucking around doing all kinds of shit, tons of isolation work etc. I did a compound focused routine after that and made similar if not more gains in three months than that whole previous year.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Of course, I'm just saying there's no need for stuffing more protein down your gullet than you can actually process. Sure, but what kind of program they stick to is pretty irrelevant as far as that program makes room for progress/progress measurable (as you said) and has certain core characteristics. One of the biggest issues isn't the program, it's consistency and if they had a bad introduction bad form. Yeah, Idk about that - studies of that kind are usually very vague in their methodology and some increases are incredibly marginal and of no difference to someone who isn't competing. Again, biodynamics also influence strength. Sure, I'm just saying that routine doesn't need to be anything specific if certain core criteria are fulfilled. And once you progress - depending on how much it does for you - you can introduce small variance. For some people it makes sense to switch things up once a while. That's why I have a flexible workout frameworks instead of detailed plans. But then again, what I do may not be sustainable for someone else and I've been at it for some time. (with a few off-periods but nothing longer than 6 weeks)
anarchistfish 08.12.14	as in focusing on one muscle isn't good for when you start out so what you're doing is right (idk if it may be later on). don't wanna confuse you're doing good man
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Depends on what kind of gains we're talking me thinks. I mean there's a reason some call "isolation" physique or "vanity" stuff. There's also the thing that isolation can be a lot safer than compounds when you go heavy without safety mechanisms or somebody competent to spot you. Compounds will probably do more in terms of strength gain. Both have their place - depending on what you wanna do, plus switching it up just makes the workout easier and less of a drain on your nervous system. E.g. if every of your workout is heavy compounds to failure I wouldn't be surprised if you faint or break down at some point.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	We may also want to remember that individual results cannot be generalized. That's where douchy bro science and dogmatic bullshit starts and people start claiming their workout is THE way.
SaneTBP 08.12.14	The list description made me feel happy for you good job man!
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	Focusing on one muscle group has diminishing returns relatively quickly. I've seen numerous scientific studies showing that 5x5s normally show the quickest strength gains with compound exercises, 3x8s for most hypertrophy. I'll see if I can find one as it would be a good read for everybody.
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	"We may also want to remember that individual results cannot be generalized. That's where douchy bro science and dogmatic bullshit starts and people start claiming their workout is THE way." Of course, but generally we are all fairly similar, and the only way to determine what works for an individual is trial and error, and starting out the best way to find this is to follow a baseline program shown to be optimal for most for a period of time.
BigBlob 08.12.14	whats a gym? oh a gym
anarchistfish 08.12.14	"We may also want to remember that individual results cannot be generalized. That's where douchy bro science and dogmatic bullshit starts and people start claiming their workout is THE way." yeah let's not do that best advice would really be to keep things simple for now, find a routine, & eat enough. but it sounds like that's what he's doing so cool just be careful cos you'll soon get addicted. soon, you'll size up every guy you meet, judge their personality solely on their shoulder circumference and bicep : calf ratio. eventually you'll even stop caring about all those girls you wanted to impress by going to the gym in the first place. then you'll realise you're now gay
anarchistfish 08.12.14	but it's worth it
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/1c78r4/strength_size_and_the_truth_about_rep_ranges/ ^Really good read that sums it up http://sites.google.com/site/piratejon/ripptoe_rep_chart.GIF
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	then you'll realise you're now gay lolol
BigPleb 08.12.14	hehe, solid read fish!
BigPleb 08.12.14	That chicken and egg sandwich was amaze.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	"Of course, but generally we are all fairly similar, and the only way to determine what works for an individual is trial and error," Exactly my point. " and starting out the best way to find this is to follow a baseline program shown to be optimal for most for a period of time." No arguments here, just saying there's no need for religiously following programs. Something a lot of Americans like to do. Some dude tried to tell me he could make infinite gains if he was on the "right program". "I've seen numerous scientific studies showing that 5x5s normally show the quickest strength gains with compound exercises, 3x8s for most hypertrophy. I'll see if I can find one as it would be a good read for everybody." Again, this also depends on variables like the training state of the individuals involved, consistency/controlling measurements of the study (especially in regards to whether they were self-reported or not) and what how big of an advantage you get. I mean yeah - duh, strength gain range is roughly 3-8 reps, hypertrophy roughly 8-12 and anything that comes after is endurance.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	I mean there's overlap anyway and as Lyle put it, there's really no point in worrying about minuitiae if you follow a solid program.
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	nah bro if i do 100 pushups a day in my crossfit class im gonna make the most gainz ;]
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	"I mean there's overlap anyway and as Lyle put it, there's really no point in worrying about minuitiae if you follow a solid program." indeed
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	"then you'll realise you're now gay" Wait.. so working out made me bisexual? Well, fuck me.
Hyperion1001 08.12.14	jam consuming impulse and youll lift 5lbs more every set trust me its a proven fact
anarchistfish 08.12.14	"Wait.. so working out made me bisexual? Well, fuck me." no being german made you bisexual
BigPleb 08.12.14	Damn, solid fish logic strikes again!
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Yeah, no. Germans are way too prude and conservative. Also what hype said, OSDM jams bring the lifts.
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	lolol
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	it's all about the converge and horse the band jams for maximum gains ive seen the studies
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	You'll get horse strength and your grunts will sound like Bannon's screams on JD.
Hyperion1001 08.12.14	my personal concoction of pestilence, discordance axis, and DMX is scientifically proven to be more effective than creatine
anarchistfish 08.12.14	dre tbh need that rhythm, that beat
BigPleb 08.12.14	Damn, need to make a Converge playlist for the gym tbh.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	"my personal concoction of pestilence, discordance axis, and DMX is scientifically proven to be more effective than creatine" dat ruff rhyders anthem. I also like to use Andrew W.K. for warmups/last sets/failure sets.
Feather 08.12.14	I was a pretty good swimmer back in highschool and I should really get into working out again. I think I'm going to start once school starts back up.
DungeonBoy 08.12.14	Vital Remains-Dechristianize http://youtu.be/FkP3ktcmNUw My ultimate gym jam. I've literally lifted a house while listening to this.
BigPleb 08.12.14	Go hard dude m/ Surprised that Wolfe hasn't entered yet...
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Dechristianize is a definite jam. Good album, too.
Relinquished 08.12.14	congrats dude but what you're feeling is the "noobie" gains, keep it up til you pass the upcoming plateau
BigPleb 08.12.14	Ye its the early early stages. Still, feeling good so it can only get better from here.
Relinquished 08.12.14	fuck ab workout machines too do planks, and not like the pictures show you. with your elbows parallel to your head
MO 08.12.14	yea once you get past the initial gains you'll really start becoming obsessed
beefshoes 08.12.14	Nice jams man. I try to do cardio at least three nights a week, and 3, 4, and 5 are some of my go to albums.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	"yea once you get past the initial gains you'll really start becoming obsessed" ... and then the gay creeps in!
Relinquished 08.12.14	yea you'll be really HAPPY then
BigPleb 08.12.14	Dreading that part.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Shit's gonna get bright and warm.
Relinquished 08.12.14	what's there to dread when it's already consumed you
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	exactly. you're gonna be shitting rainbows before you know.
anarchistfish 08.12.14	just let it come all over you it's ok
BigPleb 08.12.14	Repping = rainbows
Relinquished 08.12.14	one day when you're deadlifting and you're making those unnecessary noobie grunting noises, you'll be getting numbers for "spotting" later on
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Gotta embrace that gay agenda. And soon we will start taking away all the Yachts of those non-exercising rich heterosexuals. And their women.
BigPleb 08.12.14	Damn it'd be interesting having you as my trainer Wolfe, got visions of you stepping on my back while I fail miserably attempting pushups.
Relinquished 08.12.14	if you have problems with pushups you have no business being in a gym
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	I doubt he often feels like leaving Sweden consdering it's - y'know - Sweden. Gotta make those kronas.
BigPleb 08.12.14	Well I'd have problem doing pushups with you on my back bro!
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Depends. Normal ones yeah, but not everyone can do non-assisted handstand pushups.
Relinquished 08.12.14	I'll be the trainer from hell if you hire me, because when I get my money upfront that's gonna be the line you wish you never crossed. no money back guaranteed.
BigPleb 08.12.14	What about friendliness dude? :[
DikkoZinner 08.12.14	The Irons m/
Relinquished 08.12.14	that's outside of the gym, it's all business in there. no distractions, no complaining, just results.
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	100% viking.
BigPleb 08.12.14	Fucking Wolfe at it again m/
PitchforkArms 08.12.14	Pleb is a bro
DikkoZinner 08.12.14	Pumping Iron on netflix right now. Watch Arnold give Lou the wrong advices. Franco Columbu m/
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Arnold's still a boss.
Relinquished 08.12.14	yea a man who owns his own tank knows what he's doing
anarchistfish 08.12.14	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxXU1f2AJNU all true
GrandpaSeth3000 08.12.14	Trying to combine different parts of my body [2] - gs3k
JesusMilosovic 08.12.14	I want a penis on my forehead.
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	once you work out long enough everyone strives to have a dick in their ass
guitarded_chuck 08.12.14	lolol fish
BigPleb 08.12.14	Off for a leg session now, I get to converse with people outside my home and work too!
anarchistfish 08.12.14	legs are good. when they get bigger that's when you start feeling like an animal
DominionMM1 08.12.14	squats squats and more squats man list is awful by the way
BigPleb 08.12.14	Cheers dom m/
Hyperion1001 08.12.14	squats and deads are the source of all good things
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	and overhead lifts are the unsung heroes of other good things
BigPleb 08.12.14	Sweet legs session, aching to fuck tho cos I bike to and from the gym haha :/
Wolfhorde 08.12.14	Possibly not the brightest combo.
BigPleb 08.12.14	Agreed hard, bad sign if im aching the day i've trained too haha. Gonna be hell on earth tomorrow!