ChoccyPhilly: The War Of Compilations / Whole Albums

ChoccyPhilly 06.03.14	Thoughts would be great guys. Tell me what you think of this.
ArsMoriendi 06.03.14	Well greatest hits albums just seem to feed the close minded. I've talked to this guy who argued that all of Smashing Pumpkins bests songs were on their greatest hits so he didn't need the albums. It's usually just an awkward opinion and makes it hard to appreciate someone's opinion on an artist when they say that. On the other hand compilations like Incesticide, Complete 'B' Sides, The Aeroplane Flies High etc. are amazing since they make it easier for you to collect an artist's rarer non-album songs. So in other words: hit based compilations are bad, but rarity compilations are awesome.
ChoccyPhilly 06.03.14	Well I guess you're right that it does depend on the listener and B-side compilations definitely serve their purpose, but I was more referring to 'Best Hits' compilation. There is a pretty good purpose to them to a sensible listener as I pointed out and tried focussing on good points and flaws. Why there is a lot of hate for them? Definite hate on Sputnik at least.
Riviere 06.03.14	I like when bands make a compilation of all their EP material if they happen to have a gazillion ep's.
ChoccyPhilly 06.03.14	Oh also guys, I'm well aware that there are just some close minded people who assume that if a song isn't on a compilation, it's not good enough/bad or "if the song was that good, why isn't it on the best hits album? it's called best hits for a reason DUUHHHHH"
Havey 06.03.14	>_>
SCREAM! 06.03.14	They can help with getting into a band like you said, but they can also hinder someone from getting into a band fully. Someone might buy lets say a Black Sabbath greatest hits and be really happy because he has all the songs he knows and loves (Iron Man, Paranoid, Black Sabbath, etc) but without realising he's missing out on a bunch of other great songs like Into the Void, The Wizard, etc etc etc
ArsMoriendi 06.03.14	@SCREAM!: "The Wizard" is on their Best Of though. Yeah, but the Sabbath Best Of sucks, the only Sabotage song on there is "Am I Going Insane (Radio)" ^Sorry just being too literal/tangent ranting. But back when I had my Sabbath best of when I was like 13, I felt more hindered from trying their albums, rather than invited. I've observed that its this way with most people. Best Ofs are more of a cash grab than anything.
SeaAnemone 06.04.14	these are all really bad albums coincidence???
ChoccyPhilly 06.04.14	Only 3 is bad. 4 has bad moments definitely
tommygun 06.04.14	came in here to post hatful of hollow nice nice nice greatest hits are dumb but rarities comps are swee
ChoccyPhilly 06.04.14	Did you not read anything above? also what's makes you say that they're dumb?
BMDrummer 06.04.14	I'm an album person myself, plus you couldn't make a Neurosis or Swans compilation without leaving out tons of stuff.
Friday13th 06.04.14	They're not all dumb. I have lots of great compilation CDs that I'd way rather bring on a road trip than the song's respective albums. I usually see them as glorified sampler CDs which usually do a good job introducing an artist I'm not sure about. Die hard fans like to make fun because they by definition already like everything the artist has made. Truth is, not every artist has released a studio album that is entirely worthwhile. Sputnik uses the album as the gold standard of evaluating artists, but singles, live performances etc are important too. Still, the pitfall is ASSUMING these greatest hits albums have all their best material. That's why you use the internet to investigate if people like it or WHY people don't like it to help you decide.
Thibs 06.04.14	STP - Thank You
Ovrot 06.04.14	well they can't all be zingers
Trebor. 06.04.14	I never comp, I never even mixtape, I can't fucking stand it I'll hear a song and then I'll want to hear whatever the next song is on the album, but nope, it changes to something different and I'm like fuck this
ArsMoriendi 06.04.14	"STP - Thank You" No. That's just another glorified Best Of. Listening to Purple is much better of an experience (Core and Tiny Music too.) You know what compilation especially keeps people from actually checking out Studio albums? Bob Marley - Legend.
demigod! 06.04.14	building nothing out of something is the best compilation ever made cuz it doesnt feel like a compilation
Trebor. 06.04.14	It's a b-sides album and I never heard Interstate 8 in order before I heard it so it doesn't bother me
ArsMoriendi 06.04.14	Best Of Compilations = bad. Rarity/B-side Compilations = good. It's really that simple.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 06.04.14	"Best Of Compilations = bad. Rarity/B-side Compilations = good. It's really that simple." no it really isn't considering there are bad rarity/b-side compilations and also that there are also other kinds of compilations that can be good or bad also "Also everyone also seems to say that I should always listen to an album as a whole. Also not sure why." u dumb bro?
ScuroFantasma 06.04.14	I don't see anything wrong with compilations really, I just dislike the idea of buying a compilation, and then re-buying all the songs on that compilation seperately if I aquire whole albums. Seems like a waste of money.
Chrisjon89 06.04.14	i kinda liken albums to movies. i rarely watch just one scene of a movie in isolation, cos it can have a different impact depending on context and placement etc. there are definitely exceptions. Queen and The Rolling Stones I tend to favour compilations. with alot of modern pop music I find the albums aren't worth hearing in the entirety. but in general, my favourite artists tend to deliver stuff where I find no need to hit skip and there are conscious decisions made in terms of pacing, track placement and duration
ChoccyPhilly 06.04.14	I tend to be more of a song person. I really dislike putting my library on shuffle because the continuity is really awful and I don't really have the time to listen to a whole album whenever I want to listen to music to get a better feel around it. There are definitely some albums I generally listen to fully such as Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence (DT) however these albums are rare for me. I literally have only about 6-10 albums where I truly like every song on the album. Also, if you liken album to movies, you can liken Compilations to trailers or something like that
PunchforPunch 06.04.14	u don't even listen to soul, electronic and nor jazz so.. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Mad. 06.04.14	"there is so much shit to filter through" HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT about The Pineapple Thief?!!? They haven't done anything shit
tempest-- 06.04.14	THE ONLY GOOD GREATEST HITS ALBUM IS BON JOVI'S
ChoccyPhilly 06.04.14	Just cos I didn't include either of those genres on this doesn't mean I don't listen to them. Electronic album I listen to the whole way? Enigma - MCMXC a.D. (but that's new age technically) Nah I jam loads of electronic, I just didn't include it here
ChoccyPhilly 06.04.14	Mad, whilst it's good, I would say that TPT have quite a few hit and miss songs, mostly from 10 stories down album. Whilst it's not bad music by any means, it's not great either in my opinion and someone getting into the band most certainly shouldn't start with that album
Emyay 06.04.14	yeah dude there's definitely a balance for me. there are some whole albums that i jam but a lot of the time i'm just jamming individual songs
Emyay 06.04.14	also agreed about TPT. very hit or miss for me
ChoccyPhilly 06.04.14	Little Man is a near perfect album, but the rest of TPT albums have absolutely great songs but the others just aren't worth the time because they're in the awkward "it's ok...." Ground. So I'm happy to listen to Little Man in its entirety but everything else they've done is purely song based for me
PitchforkArms 06.04.14	not even a comparison. Most of the albums i listen to are written and created to be listened to in their intended full format. Not to mention "best of" compilations aren't always the "best"
Mad. 06.04.14	@Choccy yeah I haven't heard that one actually. I'm in the listen-to-whole-albums boat because if you're listening to good music then every song is worth listening to and the albums are designed to be listened to as a whole
SharkTooth 06.04.14	"I release whole albums are better," Wut??
ChoccyPhilly 06.04.14	Typo. Supposed to be realise
SharkTooth 06.04.14	Yeah I tend to find and get bothered by typos a lot easier than most others
evilford 06.04.14	>_> [2]
menawati 06.04.14	Compilations of stuff from bands who never released albums can be worthwhile (like those old metal for muthas things), or eagles greatest hits for your gran as a present, but if it's a band you dont care enough about to explore then might as well just make a streaming playlist for free.
ChoccyPhilly 06.04.14	But the point is is that surely compilations save time? If you knew nothing about Bob Dylan except one song and wanted more, where do you start with his 30+ albums? Make a playlist and wait til you get a good song? And how long could that take?
Emyay 06.04.14	you could make a playlist from the wikipedia track list of the compilation? or you could download the compilation for free or listen to it on spotify? idk. either way i'm with you choccy. its not always practical to listen to full albums. sorry for not staying trve
menawati 06.04.14	yeh choccy why not, fine, but as probably already pointed out it's not always the best music that ends up on compilations so unless you explore further you may miss a lot
evilford 06.04.14	"or eagles greatest hits for your gran as a present" lol
BeneaththeDarkOcean 06.05.14	Of course it figures that the two full-length "albums" you don't like on this list are two of my favorite albums. "sigh" typical Sputnik.
SCREAM! 06.05.14	"where do you start with his 30+ albums?" Check ratings and decide from there