SCREAM!
04.07.14 | **NOTICE**
Being that after this round we will be left with an uneven number (3) of albums that means one of these guys gets a pass straight to the finals. So when you cast your 3 votes, add a star (*) next to the album you think deserves a free pass to the final round! |
SCREAM!
04.07.14 | My vote:
Dark Side
WYWH
CttE * |
mandan
04.07.14 | Fuck it, I'm gonna go Triple Floyd on this one.
Animals* |
mryrtmrnfoxxxy
04.07.14 | court
red
animals |
emester
04.07.14 | Dark Side
Red*
Animals
|
SCREAM!
04.07.14 | People are bad at reading comments |
mryrtmrnfoxxxy
04.07.14 | * |
SirDrumsalot
04.07.14 | Crimson King*
Wish You Were Here
Close to the Edge |
mryrtmrnfoxxxy
04.07.14 | the only pf album that should have made it post round 1 is animals dammit guys |
SCREAM!
04.07.14 | Agreed^^ list is lacking Rush hard |
fallenbird
04.07.14 | Dark Side Of The Moon
Wish You Were Here *
Animals
Sorry Close To The Edge but Animals has you by the balls with political literature. |
ButteryBiscuitBass
04.07.14 | Court
Red
Animals |
zakalwe
04.07.14 | Darkside*
WYWH
Animals |
ButteryBiscuitBass
04.07.14 | Animals* |
mryrtmrnfoxxxy
04.07.14 | i feel bad for voting against 6 cuz i like it more than 1-4 but animals is perfect |
fallenbird
04.07.14 | Foxxxy the Floyd made 3 of the best albums ever made they deserve to be here, besides animals is not there best. Wish You Were Here is the best album ever made imo. |
ButteryBiscuitBass
04.07.14 | Ouch. Animals slays WYWH imo. |
mandan
04.07.14 | Race is pretty tight. |
DikkoZinner
04.07.14 | Dark Side Of The Moon
Wish You Were Here *
Animals |
TheCrocodile
04.07.14 | Court
Red*
CttE |
SCREAM!
04.07.14 | Silly frip just put that star next to CttE :D |
Greem
04.07.14 | Pink Pink and Pink |
Greem
04.07.14 | Wish You Were Here* but The Wall is the best imo) |
manosg
04.07.14 | Dark Side
WYWH*
CttE |
mandan
04.07.14 | That must've been hard manosg. |
manosg
04.07.14 | Selecting Dark Side over Court was a bit hard. However, WYWH is my favorite prog album along with Thick as a Brick so the decision there was easy. CttE was a difficult decision though. |
Friday13th
04.07.14 | Court
Red
CTTE* |
Friday13th
04.07.14 | So basically there will be two winners who will go to the semi-finals and the album with the most *s will be the reigning champion for the final round. |
menawati
04.07.14 | damn you for putting Red up against wywh, it's like drawing Manchester United in the cup |
menawati
04.07.14 | crimson king
red *************************************
animals |
laughingman22
04.07.14 | darkside*
wish you were here
animals |
Sniff
04.07.14 | darkside
wish you were here
animals * |
mandan
04.07.14 | It's pretty close, so one of the KC albums should make it.
I really hope Animals makes the final round, one of the best things to come out of the 70's by far. |
SCREAM!
04.07.14 | Damn danny I'm hoping CttE makes it but I'm starting to lose hope! |
JamieTwort
04.07.14 | Dark Side
Red (fuck, that was hard)
Animals* |
ale
04.07.14 | dark side of the moon*
wish you were here |
Onirium
04.07.14 | The Court
Wish You Were Here
CttE
Seriously guys, Animals is an awesome album, maybe my favorite Floyd, but it can't possibly beat Close to the Edge. |
Onirium
04.07.14 | ^comment editing fucks it all |
Jethro42
04.07.14 | Court
Red
Close to the Edge* |
mandan
04.07.14 | Jethro, did you ever see Yes? |
Jethro42
04.07.14 | Unfortunately not. |
SCREAM!
04.07.14 | @onirium you just summed up how I feel about 5 and 6. Both solid 5s but CttE just completely engrosses me like few other albums can |
mandan
04.07.14 | I completely disagree Oni, but we all have different taste so whatev. |
JamieTwort
04.07.14 | "Seriously guys, Animals is an awesome album, maybe my favorite Floyd, but it can't possibly beat Close to the Edge."
Animals beats CttE by a mile imo. |
JamieTwort
04.07.14 | One of the easiest decisions in this whole tournament for me. |
FearTomorrow
04.07.14 | floyd |
ArsMoriendi
04.07.14 | Dark Side of the Moon
Wish You Were Here
and although I like Yes more on the whole... Animals |
BMDrummer
04.07.14 | Dark Side
WYWH
Close to the Edge |
menawati
04.07.14 | its not even the best floyd album and it going to knock out Red damn |
JaySpiral
04.07.14 | All Floyd
Animals* |
ArsMoriendi
04.07.14 | @menawati: True, Animals is the best Floyd album. Then again Yes's best album Fragile was knocked out... |
menawati
04.07.14 | voting for elimination of PF from contest bcos they aren't a proper prog band |
fallenbird
04.07.14 | WYWH is the best Floyd album. Animals might have the lyrical content of political literature but it doesn't even compare to the
emotional value the Wish You Were Here has. Songs like Shine On You Crazy Diamond, the title track, and Welcome To The
Machine are delivered with more heart than anything on Animals ever does. Both are my two favorite albums of all time but
Wish You Were Here remains imo the best album ever made. |
menawati
04.07.14 | not prog tho |
ArsMoriendi
04.07.14 | From WYWH, my favorite song is "Have a Cigar" so we already disagree on something...
Also WYWH is probably my 3rd favorite after Animals and Meddle. Meddle is fantastic and underrated. |
JamieTwort
04.07.14 | Wish You Were Here is amazing but Animals is perfection. |
menawati
04.07.14 | ^ |
fallenbird
04.07.14 | Other way around Jamie |
Friday13th
04.07.14 | @fallenbird Agreed dude. Plus Animal's so called political literature is nothing more than glorified commy crap haha. |
menawati
04.07.14 | haha charade you are ;) |
Friday13th
04.07.14 | pig and proud ;) |
fallenbird
04.07.14 | Animals is almost perfect but Pigs On The Wing. They're nice little songs but they aren't perfect. Unlike everything on WYWH. |
menawati
04.07.14 | animals has more staying power |
fallenbird
04.07.14 | No it doesn't. |
Friday13th
04.07.14 | staying power as in when the soviet union collapsed and China going capitalist haha |
menawati
04.07.14 | but, whatever, just disqualify them they arent prog, Red goes through to next round by default |
fallenbird
04.07.14 | How are they not Prog? Shine On, Echoes, Dogs, Eclipse are all easily Prog songs. |
menawati
04.07.14 | just atmospheric space/psych, money is about the only prog song they did |
Friday13th
04.07.14 | nah brah they're prog just not doodly-doodly prog. |
menawati
04.07.14 | oh well it was worth a try |
ArsMoriendi
04.07.14 | "Animal's so called political literature is nothing more than glorified commy crap haha."
Animals is anti-communism. It's based off of George Orwell's Animal Farm. |
Friday13th
04.07.14 | Oh shoot I just sabotaged the plan ;) |
mandan
04.07.14 | Both Animals and WYWH rule, but imo Animals was better structured. The case can be made for either though. |
Friday13th
04.07.14 | @ArsMoriendi I'm not sure about that. You're right about the Animal Farm inspiration but I think they put their own spin on it. |
menawati
04.07.14 | yeh there's other stuff in there about censorship and other stuff and its actually about capitalism and moral decay |
Friday13th
04.07.14 | Book was right. Floyd kinda screwed the pooch no pun intended |
menawati
04.07.14 | cant even remember the book i was thinking about boys in gangs on an island i read at school but that was lord of the flies wasnt it, there is a porno film called animal farm wonder if they were inspired by that |
ArsMoriendi
04.07.14 | Basically Joseph Stalin and Trotsky are pigs, the common people are horses and donkeys, the dogs keep the pigs in power by instilling fear among the people, and the sheep do what they were told.
Animals' biggest flaw is that they have no mention of the Horses from Animal Farm. |
ArsMoriendi
04.07.14 | Other than that its perfect^ |
menawati
04.07.14 | it's about capitalism not communism |
fallenbird
04.07.14 | The horse was the saddest part of that story. I was so sad when he died. |
ArsMoriendi
04.07.14 | Exactly, especially since the Horses/donkey were basically the only likable characters. |
menawati
04.07.14 | im getting mixed up whether people are talking about the album, the book or the porno film |
ArsMoriendi
04.07.14 | No one is talking about the porno film.
We're discussing the book mostly, but still referencing the album. |
menawati
04.07.14 | so are we all agreed the album is about capitalism ? |
ArsMoriendi
04.07.14 | Yeah, but the book is about communism.
I used to imagine what it would be like if Pink Floyd included a song called "Horses" on Animals sung by Richard Wright. Since that lack of those two things were my only gripes with the album. I'm weird I know... |
zakalwe
04.07.14 | It's a satire on the whole ethos of everything will remain the same no matter what political changes are made. |
JamieTwort
04.07.14 | "Animals is almost perfect but Pigs On The Wing. They're nice little songs but they aren't perfect."
For me the two Pigs on the Wing bookends contribute to the album's perfection. I would actually like the album a little less if they weren't there. Never understood why some people see those tracks as a low point of the album. |
ArsMoriendi
04.07.14 | @JamieTwort: I agree with you so rarely, BUT that I agree with 100%. |
zakalwe
04.07.14 | I agree with JTs statements on a scale of about 92% and that one about the bookends is definitely one of em. |
NeroCorleone80
04.07.14 | In the Court,
Red*,
Animals |
Onirium
04.07.14 | So there will be 3 Floyd album in the finals...
Ok, cool, but only Animals and some other songs are prog.
Also, Animals is only loosely based on Animal Farm, as the album doesn't have any storyline or plot. Floyd used the concept of animals representing classes of society, but they adapted it and "put their own spin on it." |
menawati
04.07.14 | disqualify PF not prog |
Onirium
04.07.14 | ^Animals is prog |
SCREAM!
04.07.14 | Gonna have to disqualify PF and name CttE the big winner, no choice left |
AnotherBrick
04.07.14 | pink floyd for all |
menawati
04.07.14 | you know it makes sense scream |
menawati
04.07.14 | is just a bit of fun and gets people talking bollocks for a bit so no harm really |
Onirium
04.07.14 | Yeah the contest could have included modern prog bands |
SCREAM!
04.07.14 | "this was the most pleb prog 'contest' ever"
Yeah let's have a contest with only albums that have 5 or less votes so no one can participate and we can feel good about ourselves |
SCREAM!
04.07.14 | @Onirium it could've included a lot of things but for the sake of keeping this -somewhat- concise and
making it accessible I stuck to the bigger names/albums of the "classic" period |
menawati
04.07.14 | lots of the people on this thread listen to all sorts of prog old and new, most of my reviews are recent or obscure older prog too |
SCREAM!
04.07.14 | Well if they haven't heard them it's a bit harder to properly vote for them eh ;) |
mandan
04.07.14 | The discussion on this thread got pretty dumb tbh. |
menawati
04.07.14 | well, iluvatar the prog lovers on here is a pretty small set of people, most new prog that get's reviewed here gets very little attention, it would probably be an exercise in futility to do what you suggest |
mandan
04.07.14 | Also lol @ disqualifying Floyd. |
climactic
04.07.14 | dark side
wish you were here
close to the edge |
SCREAM!
04.07.14 | IF I wanted to inform people of new records I don't see a contest as being a very effective way of doing that. If people see a huge list of choices they don't know well they're gonna move on.
If I wanted to introduce people to new albums I'd have made a list of "Under appreciated prog" or some variant of that where I can write a bit of a descriptions and people can go check out the ones that sound most interesting to them. |
Onirium
04.07.14 | @Iluvatar: I'm pretty sure WYWH will win, though |
menawati
04.07.14 | No its obviously better to do lists of things that aren't well known to try and help people find new stuff, but a contest like this would be pointless for less well known stuff.
i mean, this was one of the best prog records last year and has 3 votes :-
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/60689/Birds-And-Buildings-Multipurpose-Trap/
If you are saying that the contest in itself is pretty pointless then I'd agree but theres no harm in it. |
SCREAM!
04.07.14 | Also I'd be pretty surprised if DSotM won. But then again, I've seen a few surprises already so far in the tournament which is why I think this kind of thing is still interesting even if it doesn't lead to new music discoveries |
Onirium
04.07.14 | @SCREAM!: Some newer prog is very well-known (on Sputnik) and not necessarily "under-appreciated." |
mandan
04.07.14 | This should be a tough count SCREAM!. |
menawati
04.07.14 | illuvatar, thats a good idea really to pair things up like that, i sorta tried something similar with a very floydy group called Future Kings of England once but it died a death really |
SCREAM!
04.07.14 | Some probably would have looked it up, yes. But even if they did, how do you expect it to compete against an album they've been listening to for years and grown attached to? Like I just explained, I stuck to the big names because for one I didn't want this to drag on forever with 10000 different matchups that don't stand a chance against each other.
If the point of the list had been to push new albums I would've gone about it differently but that just wasn't what I was going for. Tbh, I've found it interesting so far. I didn't expect Rush to be knocked out first round even against an oponent like PF or Camel to be completely obliterated by King Crimson and although I knew PF would be a big contender I wasn't expecting all 3 of their albums to go all the way like this. So it's interesting to watch unfold.
Godamn I put way too much effort into this response |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.07.14 | Court of the Crimson King
Wish You Were Here
Close To The Edge |
mandan
04.07.14 | The match seems pretty even. It's clear that all 3 bands have strong fanbases on the site. |
Onirium
04.07.14 | Yeah, but it's all the same fanbase |
menawati
04.07.14 | not sure about that, a lot of people like PF who dont bother with much other prog at all |
mandan
04.07.14 | Not really. I'm not a big Yes fan, for instance.
Regarding Rush, I think they got beat 'cause tons of Rush fans are into Floyd, yet tons of Floyd fans aren't into Rush. |
SCREAM!
04.07.14 | In the "real world" no doubt. But on a site like this I saw potential for albums like CttE, Thick As A Brick, Red, In the Court, Hemispheres and maybe even Mirage. I knew Floyd would do well but I didn't expect the final to be all Floyd like it seems to be heading for |
Onirium
04.07.14 | @menawati: Because, as you said, Pink Floyd are not really prog.
@SCREAM!: It's because in the "real world" and on Sputnik, Floyd are better than most of the others |
ArsMoriendi
04.07.14 | Still sad Fragile didn't make it. |
Veldin
04.08.14 | court
red
CttE |
mandan
04.08.14 | Oni, it's generally accepted that Floyd was one of the major prog pioneers.
And saying that Floyd is objectively better than most of the other bands is dumb tbh. Having said
that, I will admit that they are my fave on this round, and one of my overall faves in all prog. But
prog is prog, music is music, and at the end of the day, no band is objectively better than the other.
It's all perspective.
Although I do indulge in band comparisons, album bashing, musician bashing, etc. from time to time.
But it's all opinion. |
Friday13th
04.08.14 | If you guys want a contest of obscure prog I have an idea. You do need time to kill, but if you're on
this discussion you're clearly not short of it ;)
We form a group of dedicated sputnik proggers like ourselves to each rec one obscure prog album
(arbitrarily... |
Onirium
04.08.14 | @dannyboy: I know I was only trolling Rush. |
mandan
04.08.14 | Fair enough dude. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.08.14 | amoun duul ii >>>>>> |
Friday13th
04.08.14 | ... |
Friday13th
04.08.14 | okay why is my computer acting up.
Anyways, we each rec an album with arbitrarily less than 50 votes, form a bracket, and listen to them
all as they come before voting. I know, the words I'm saying are worthy of the noble prog prize. |
menawati
04.08.14 | yeti and phallus are up there for sure |
menawati
04.08.14 | review yeti potsy |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.08.14 | i dun review shit |
conesmoke
04.08.14 | darkside, red, close 2 the m/ edge |
menawati
04.08.14 | yes you do i distinctly remember you destroying a beefheart album |
SCREAM!
04.08.14 | @Friday make an empty list and edit it as people suggest things! It'll be easier to organise that way than in here I think haha although if you wait 2 days this tournament will be done |
menawati
04.08.14 | what does forming a bracket involve, are we going to do DIY ? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.08.14 | "yes you do i distinctly remember you destroying a beefheart album"
yeah i mean i review 1/5 albums once in a while blood mountain and queef mask |
Friday13th
04.08.14 | Alright bros, look to me for the next time-wasting prog tourney after the final round! GO CTTE! |
Onirium
04.08.14 | @Friday: ur a god. But seriously do it there are plenty of albums that need to be listened to. |
menawati
04.08.14 | make it less than 10 votes tho bcos less than 50 is pretty much every prog album on here that isnt in this contest |
menawati
04.08.14 | @pots might do yeti but finding it hard to see the point when so few people on here would even bother with it |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.08.14 | yeah id write reviews for this site but all the users here are retarded and only know how to listen to new deftones and swans albums |
Friday13th
04.08.14 | @menawati as soon as I make the first list, I'll put the album I'm recommending and if you want in,
you rec your album. I'll probably just do one on one battles so you give each its due time. If there
is a huge response I'll divide the groups so you don't have to listen to every album, but the idea is
for all of us to hear something new and then vote. |
menawati
04.08.14 | fuck there isnt even a review for phallus |
menawati
04.08.14 | sure friday but please only allow stuff with less than 10 votes theres still plenty of those |
Friday13th
04.08.14 | I dunno man 10 is pretty limiting. I can't say I know too many with less than 10 ratings myself. You can always rec an album with less than that if you want, but I'm not sure we'll get people to join besides you and Jethro haha. Come on, Danny here is just starting and he's eager beaver #1. |
SCREAM!
04.08.14 | The one I'm thinking about has less than 15 so that'll have to be good enough for you mena! |
menawati
04.08.14 | well 20 maybe then, like i said if you make it 50 thats pretty much everything on here outside the big 5 or 6 bands |
Friday13th
04.08.14 | I'll be counting how many votes under 50 it had at the start and if you win then you get that many
"elite points" and some deep respect! Bands like Van Der Graaf Generator are still out so we're
shafting some great stuff. |
menawati
04.08.14 | dont overcook it man hehe |
Friday13th
04.08.14 | overcooked is better than undercooked. Isn't that the prog motto? lol |
SCREAM!
04.08.14 | Haha yeah not sure how far elite points will get anyone. But 50 eliminates VdGG, Renaissance, ELP, Harmonium, Caravan's biggest albums, Alan Parsons Project, Mike Oldfield,amongst others. So it might not be that bad a number |
menawati
04.08.14 | oh i thought this was going to be more recent stuff than that |
SCREAM!
04.08.14 | I thought it was old or new |
ValarMorghulis
04.08.14 | 2, 4, 5 |
menawati
04.08.14 | i predict chaos, us prog fans couldnt organise a piss up in a brewery |
SCREAM!
04.08.14 | Worst that'll happen is the thing turns into a shit storm and we all discover a few albums along the way haha might as well go for it |
mandan
04.08.14 | Who won? |
SCREAM!
04.08.14 | Triple Floyd. Fuck this site |
mryrtmrnfoxxxy
04.08.14 | fuck this site [2] you idiots |
osmark86
04.08.14 | In the Court of the Crimson King
Wish You Were Here
Close To The Edge
dunno if voting is closed, but that's my contrib. |
menawati
04.08.14 | just make 2 finals - one with the PF albums and another set of 3 with the proper prog albums that came highest |
SCREAM!
04.08.14 | @osmark yeah, it's closed but every album that's leading is leading by more than 1 so the extra votes wouldn't really change anything |
osmark86
04.08.14 | oh well, to me CttE tops it anyhow. |
SCREAM!
04.08.14 | Same here. But even counting your vote it still needed 4 more to catch up to Animals :( |
osmark86
04.08.14 | another case of failed democrazy |
adr
04.08.14 | well Animals > so.. xD
In The Court must be in the top 3 tho, followed by WYWH and Animals for me.
|
lensag
04.08.14 | in the court of the crimson king
red
animals |
Hovse
04.09.14 | Damn |