BigPleb: The 'Paranormal'

BigPleb 10.16.13	I'm just very intrigued by the whole situation.
ButteryBiscuitBass 10.16.13	It's all bollocks, completely different to something like Aliens where we can't possibly known because of the size of the universe, but with this sort of shit it happens on Earth and there's no scientific proof of it whatsoever. It's not like it's happening somewhere that we can't study. With that being said - it's interesting as fuck and I enjoy stories that touch on Ghosts, etc.
ButteryBiscuitBass 10.16.13	Just to clarify - I do believe in extra-terrestial life. I just don't believe they've been here. There are more stars in the universe than there is specs of sand on earth, so yeah, aliens dude.
BigPleb 10.16.13	Yeah I find it so interesting, not those bullshit ghost hunter programmes but the documentaries. Saying that, Ghost Adventures is fun.
osmark86 10.16.13	Ghosts watching you? pffff. however, my case of anatidaephobia is very real and eerie indeed.
ButteryBiscuitBass 10.16.13	Yeah I know what you're saying mate.
BigPleb 10.16.13	lol that's an insane fear. Well just eerie feelings, but that can be influences by your mental state.
osmark86 10.16.13	seriously though, the feeling of constantly being watched sounds like pure ol' paranoia
tommygun 10.16.13	it's all bollocks agreed
BigPleb 10.16.13	Eh probably, I mean my anxiety is p bad so yeah that could be it. Surprised religion hasn't entered this thread yet...
osmark86 10.16.13	good digs btw, Ghost are coming to town soon. might go catch them live.
BigPleb 10.16.13	Swee man, caught them in June this year...was interesting.
Polyethylene 10.16.13	I am an atheist and I try to maintain rationality as often as I can, but I have experienced some things I cannot explain. As much as I wouldn't believe them coming from the mouth of someone else, I'd struggle to forget them having experienced them myself
Polyethylene 10.16.13	"Surprised religion hasn't entered this thread yet..." Whoops sorry Pleb
osmark86 10.16.13	my stance on ghosts in general: I believe they fill the void of not being able to see or understand a rational explanation for an event. We fill that void with fear, and I'd argue that it is irrational, so call it a phobia. The day they're proven I'll change my stance on it ;).
BigPleb 10.16.13	Ha no its good dude! Good ol debate on Sputnik. The thing I will never forget is when I was walking through a field (which turned out be an RAF base in WWII). Just remember feeling really cold and this heavy weight on my back, was weird.
osmark86 10.16.13	http://www.anxietycentre.com/anxiety-symptoms.shtml
Polyethylene 10.16.13	I do get anxiety from time to time so I'd never label a 'chill' or 'sense of foreboding' as some sort of paranormal presence. The things I'm talking about are events that have happened to me that, both at the time and now, appear physically impossible
BigPleb 10.16.13	Ha I know what it is ossy bro.
menawati 10.16.13	In every 'paranormal encounter' story I've ever come across there are always mundane explanations that, although unlikely in themselves, are far more likely than the paranormal explanations.
Riviere 10.16.13	I think it's just people hallucinating, seeing what they want to see or a collection of things that aren't there that other people have said they've seen if a place is deemed to be "haunted". Whenever people are in some old creepy abandoned building, as soon as 1 person says "did you hear that?" or "did you see that" Everyone else chips in and starts hearing and seeing shit.
BigPleb 10.16.13	Very good point Riviere, but you can't deny that it's fascinating.
Riviere 10.16.13	I also wonder if you took someone to Auschwitz who had no idea what it was or what went on there if they would feel any energy or sadness in the air.
BigPleb 10.16.13	I've actually been Auschwitz dude, its a harrowing experience but I never got the feeling that 'something' was there.
osmark86 10.16.13	I have no idea what you've experienced polyethylene and I have no doubt in that you are a rational person. It was offered as a plausible response to Pleb's experience. I couldn't explain it either, but it's a possibility that isn't far-fetched.
Riviere 10.16.13	Yeah it's fascinating, and I humor people whenever they say they saw a ghost, because I understand the experience was real to them.
BigPleb 10.16.13	Yeah true, scary how powerful your mind can be.
osmark86 10.16.13	also, well versed Riviere. we have a tendency as humans to project our fears or other sentiments to other people and adopt other people's projections as well.
Hyperion1001 10.16.13	Well, ya see, I'm not saying that I've been everywhere and I've done everything, but I do know it's a pretty amazing planet we live on here, and a man would have to be some kind of FOOL to think we're alone in THIS universe.
BigPleb 10.16.13	Agreed, people believe what they want to believe but we cannot be alone.
menawati 10.16.13	aliens, ghosts, alien ghosts ?
BigPleb 10.16.13	Mind blown.
osmark86 10.16.13	not necessarily so if the conditions are so minimal for life (albeit as we know it) and the universe is finite (multiverses not considered). this article tackles that subject for one: http://www.science20.com/stars_planets_life/calculating_odds_life_could_begin_chance
osmark86 10.16.13	who knows right? I think it would be bloody wonderful if we found lifeforms of any identifiable kind on other planets, be it bacteria or viruses. would put religion to the test (yes, I went there too).
Riviere 10.16.13	I like the theory about psilocybin mushrooms coming from an asteroid. It's sexy.
menawati 10.16.13	Considering the vastness of the universe it's pretty likely there is life out there. Due to the lightspeed limit tho it's very unlikely we will ever contact it.
Mongi123 10.16.13	I don't really have an opinion of ghosts but I would be scared shitless if I knew one was in the room. That's the big reason Paranormal Activity scared me so much. That shit freaks me the fuck out.
anarchistfish 10.16.13	"I have had weird instances where I've had that feeling of 'being watched', but have never actually seen any apparitions as such." pretty sure certain sound frequencies can cause that sense of a supernatural presence I used to believe, especially after I thought I saw something myself. These days, probably not.
osmark86 10.16.13	@menawati: not if the chances for life are minimal by the same magnitudes as the age of the universe. who knows right?
BigPleb 10.16.13	This is getting juicy.
Riviere 10.16.13	Who you gonna call?
anarchistfish 10.16.13	would we even be living at the same time as another living civilisation
Riviere 10.16.13	You mean would they be on the same technological advancement as us?
anarchistfish 10.16.13	I mean they may already be extinct, or they haven't even lived yet. Or maybe they're just animals.
Riviere 10.16.13	Oh I see
Riviere 10.16.13	I bet they are, and if aliens have visited here they probably didn't come in silver discs, they're probably just floating invisible up in the ether going "look at these fucking idiots, driving around in cars".
menawati 10.16.13	"I mean they may already be extinct, or they haven't even lived yet. Or maybe they're just animals." Ye the timing thing about civilisations. There's some sort of big fk off equation that's sposed to factor in what Fish said and loads of other stuff and it says that the chances of meeting alien life is pretty much zero even if it exists.
evilford 10.16.13	I believe that there is a very good chance that there is intelligent life somewhere else in the universe. don't believe in any kind of ghost/spirit stuff tho
osmark86 10.16.13	there is a theory called the "Rare Earth Hypothesis". if you can be fvcked to read a summary, here it is: http://btc.montana.edu/ceres/astrobiology/files/RareEarth.htm
evilford 10.16.13	sounds basically like a more science-oriented version of intelligent design theory
Cygnatti 10.16.13	when I was young, things randomly broke when no one was a round. sometimes when no one was home. if it was a robbery, they didn't take anything, they just broke a cereal bowl.
BigPleb 10.16.13	Haha oh cyg
BigPleb 10.16.13	No Captain not at all, just interests me.
Cygnatti 10.16.13	our solar system was created 4.5 billion years ago. life as bacteria formed sometime between 3.8 and 4 billion years ago. our universe is about 13 billion years old. if life had formed elsewhere (and anytime before the earth did) and evolved in a similar fashion as humans, their technology would be absolutely astounding. think about how much technology has expanded within 150 years, imagine 1000s or millions of years! ^_^
BallsToTheWall 10.16.13	Daemons, lepers, succubi, succubus, vampires, werewolves, draugrs, poltergeists, deep ones, rats in the walls, the mad arab, Ichabod Crane and Frederick Metzengerstein all exist.
Cygnatti 10.16.13	the ideas of god and spirits don't have to co-exist.
anarchistfish 10.16.13	" think about how much technology has expanded within 150 years, imagine 1000s or millions of years! ^_^" ye and we've never been contacted
Cygnatti 10.16.13	fish. they could be across the entire universe. you know there's an entire region of the universe that we'll never receive any form of light from them because they're moving away from us at a faster rate than light travels in space.
Cygnatti 10.16.13	but (christian) god is an all-encompassing higher power, not necessarily meaning a single entity. ghosts/spirits are just "things" that don't seem to follow the same natural laws that we do, and they are (more importantly) more individual entities like humans are. kind of like bigfoot. sure he's not supernatural, but it's never been proven they exist either.
MuhNamesTyler 10.16.13	don't believe in spirits, ghosts, or demons
ButteryBiscuitBass 10.16.13	'what do you believe in?' Niggas.
slidenslip 10.16.13	KILLUMINATI
menawati 10.16.13	"they're moving away from us at a faster rate than light travels in space." nothing can move faster than light, quasars are the most distant thing we can see and they are something like 60% speed of light i think
MuhNamesTyler 10.16.13	"what do you believe in?" Haha. I just believe in people, man
Groink 10.16.13	I'm not saying there are spirits of dead people roaming the earth, but I've seen things that would be considered paranormal. With multiple witnesses and when it is least expected. Also, my dad is the most normal, even-keeled man I know, and he has stories of when he lived in a house where unexplainable things occurred. Things definitely happen, I just don't know what causes it.
Cygnatti 10.16.13	but cap, what about jesus?? "father forgive them for they do not know what they do" is that him talking to himself? anyways, the point was I trying to make is that god is strikingly non-human. that's basically the point of the old testament. ghosts, bigfoot, yeti, dragons, snakes are very human (natural/animalistic) in nature (again, ghosts don't seem to be following the same natural laws as we do but nonetheless).
Cygnatti 10.16.13	the first bit was just me jk'ing, cappy. u no dat
Calc 10.16.13	I'm not gonna look but I bet this turned into another faux-religious philosophical thread....anyway no ghosts and demons and such ain't real.
AnotherBrick 10.16.13	lol ghosts
AnotherBrick 10.16.13	Just the fact that people in this world, with essentially unlimited information can still believe in shit with 0 scientific evidence.
Trebor. 10.16.13	I've read more than one science book so no I don't believe that shit