BallsToTheWall: Pre Workouts Ranked

BallsToTheWall 09.23.13	Jack3d can suck a cack.
DikkoZinner 09.23.13	ECA stack was money back in the day
BallsToTheWall 09.23.13	The damage these things have done to my body is probably unprecedented but I dun even care. Dat energy, dat fire, dat fucking hulk rage man.
DominionMM1 09.23.13	tried a couple preworkouts. didn't really care for them myself.
Ignimbrite 09.23.13	Thanks for making this list: I've been meaning to try some of these for a while now. C4 does not agree with me.
Winsomniac 09.23.13	Cocaine is 1, fool.
BallsToTheWall 09.23.13	I could drink assault or amino energy all day if my body could tolerate the overload.
Relinquished 09.23.13	i tried some in stockholm that were straight up weird
BallsToTheWall 09.23.13	send me some
Relinquished 09.23.13	sigur ros is heading your way man
Emyay 09.23.13	C4 gives me the tingles. Neurocore seems to be okay. These days I just need something to get my ass to go to the gym. Sad, I know
BallsToTheWall 09.23.13	Danzig plays the night before Sigur Ros.
Relinquished 09.23.13	and apparently he's playing classics sweet
BallsToTheWall 09.23.13	Morbid Angel is playing Covenant in it's entirety in December.
Balerion 09.23.13	im real big into going to the gym, but i got pretty bad anxiety so unfortunately pre for me is a no no, but all my friends are all about assault
BallsToTheWall 09.23.13	Assault is super delicious but I've made it a point to train creatine free for the past 6 months, except for the steak and fish I eat. Not that i'm against it, I just dont want to get bloated.
R6Rider 09.23.13	Pre-workouts that almost killed me - GO, Alarm, and Animal Rage. I like C4 though.
BallsToTheWall 09.23.13	Fuck Animal Rage. That is some fucked up shit.
Balerion 09.23.13	I lost a lot of puff and water when I got to the point where I knew I couldnt take it anymore, but I do feel clean and almost like i get a better sweat goin
BallsToTheWall 09.23.13	I too like working out clean, glad that boner herb phase and con-crete phase is over. Just been using vegan protein and Amino energy and I've been making strength /mass gains while keeping lean weight. I'm happy.
MoosechriS 09.23.13	Only preworkout i ever tried was NOxplode, thought it was alright but nothing amazing. These days i don' bother as my money is pretty tight and i could do without the extra expense.
DANcore 09.23.13	Homemade, brah. Fuck proprietary blends
BallsToTheWall 09.23.13	That sounds like work.
Ayashi 09.23.13	I still have 1,5 containers of Neurocore, it does wonders for me when I use it. Insane focus and drive for the rest of the day.
hikingmetalpunk 09.23.13	yohimbine
Winsomniac 09.24.13	Yeah I don't take synthetic pre-workouts anymore. Coffee, Banana, and lots of water. Maybe a little bump hue hue
BallsToTheWall 09.24.13	Doesnt yohimbine thin your blood?
BallsToTheWall 09.24.13	Winn I know what you mean, bananas, black coffee and apples are awesome for energy
Winsomniac 09.24.13	And by apples you mean blow. But yeah, apples!
BallsToTheWall 09.24.13	By apples I mean dicks.
Winsomniac 09.24.13	Oh. Welp
BallsToTheWall 09.24.13	But no apples are good for energy as is yerba mate and/or green tea
Emyay 09.24.13	i'll have to try assault
Winsomniac 09.24.13	Yerba mate is pretty legit. Green tea is for pussies. Black tea or black coffee.
BallsToTheWall 09.26.13	http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=X6-1007#.UkOZeD-QOmA This will be the next one I try, it's surprisingly got alot of beta-alanine in it which is good, most supplements only have a gram. I want to see if 3/4 grams is actually substantial for lean muscle growth.
jdennis31 09.26.13	Adderall is best pre-workout for sure. Amphetamines in general. Low dosages of 5mg give the most ridiculous mental focus/energy to get through any workout. Took jack3d and methylpump for a bit but then I went my nootropic route and just started buying all the ingredients in bulk and have been experimenting with different proportions since it's fairly easy.
jdennis31 09.26.13	Methyl pump is a really good one to try out though. Low amount of caffeine and a balanced amount of arginie and citruline for a good pump. micronized elements make for less filler.
guitarded_chuck 09.26.13	stuff kind of a waste of money guys although it is fuckin tasty sometimes coffee + maybe creatine is all you need and the benefits of creatine are pretty meh so i don't even use that - but pure creatine is actually cheap as fuck --> pre-workouts overpriced
jdennis31 09.26.13	^ -_-
BallsToTheWall 09.26.13	Was reading that im gonna take a supplement with 4 grams beta alanine per serving id have to supplement with taurine so my sytem doesnt get depleted
BallsToTheWall 09.26.13	Only creatine I get now is from steak or herring.
BallsToTheWall 09.26.13	You know your tolerance is high when those xtreme shock gas station drinks only give you a light boost.
guitarded_chuck 09.26.13	yeah caffeine dependance and tolerance aren't the funnest things either (i'm super guilty of both)
jdennis31 09.26.13	If you ever take a break week, you should do a juice fast/cleanse, supplemented with one lean meal and protein shakes. Will make your body way more reactive to supplementation. those xtreme shock drinks will have you bouncing off the walls again. Of course everyone's body is different, but this generally works for most people.
jdennis31 09.26.13	you're most likely going to lose a tiny bit of muscle mass, but the one meal will minimalize that and hopefully keep your body out of "survival mode".
BallsToTheWall 09.26.13	I've been guilty of caffeine addiction since I was 10 but I barely drink and dont smoke so I don't care. I make healthy vegan protein powder shakes every day with spinach, fruits, nuts, chia and shit like that.
BallsToTheWall 09.26.13	A juice fast/cleanse sounds like a good idea though.
guitarded_chuck 09.26.13	i've thought about taking breaks and such but if i don't get a coffee in me for like 48 hours i get a brutal headache and tired as shit i'm just like fuck it, coffee / mild caffeine use isn't that bad and has some other benefits
jdennis31 09.26.13	Your shake sounds like a good idea. I was looking at vega brand protein cause I want some hemp based protein as I've read it synthesizes the best as well as being a healthier source. What do you use?
BallsToTheWall 09.26.13	vega is so god damn expensive, I use other vegan proteins. Before I used Garden of Life's blend, Sun Warrior's vegan blend, Paradise Herb's Maca Up vegan blend and now this one http://www.luckyvitamin.com/p-423153-genceutic-naturals-plant-head-protein-chocolate-18-lbs?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=fpl&utm_term=GenceuticNaturalsPlantHeadProteinRawChocolateCacao17lbs&utm_content=126901&utm_campaign=googlebase&site=google_product_listing_ads&gclid=CPvosd-P6LkCFY5r7Aod03UADA&
guitarded_chuck 09.26.13	one thing i was reading about today that might interest you guys - regarding the phytoestrogens in soy - you basically don't have to worry about it - these estrogens actually work as antagonists and block other estrogens from causing things like breast enlargement, and work instead on some of the beneficial effects of estrogen such as bone density and moderating lipids
jdennis31 09.26.13	@balls do you know what is generally regarded as the top vegan protein product? price isn't really a factor for me, and the one you have posted has too much filler for my liking. only 55% protein content/scoop, though I don't know if the filler is beneficial since I'm not familiar with any science behind vegan protein, just that it is generally "better".
BallsToTheWall 09.26.13	All mostly the same, they all use good blends of pea/hemp/cranberry/brown rice and/or hemp, Sun Warrior adds Fenugreek, Plant Head uses chlorella and Maca Up uses maca, each has good ingredients. Cant really go wrong, I mix it up.
BallsToTheWall 09.26.13	chlorella is amazing for you, plus Plant Head has hemp, two reasons I bought it along with it being 10/15/25 cheaper than the others.