InfamousGrouse: Paris | Sputnikmusic

InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	so, who's all been to paris before and could recommend me stuff to do?
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	comeon sputnik gimme the culture
Shuyin 08.22.13	why would anyone in their perfectly clear mind go to paris?.. fucking french people they're like.. the worst
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	it must be one of the most visited cities for a reason, shuyin! for the record, been 'learning' french for about 6 years so that's my main reason for going
Shuyin 08.22.13	aah i hate their language too, seriously if i ever went to france id have to shoot people.. with real bullets
tommygun 08.22.13	worst place i've ever been have fun!
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	fish is gonna be pissed that bad, tommy?
Shuyin 08.22.13	dude, come to portugal, youll have the very best times we got the chicks and places n shit
MO 08.22.13	been there twice. but going once was more than enough for me to realize that it's overrated to shit. go to the south of france. marseille, nice, aix-en-provence, montpellier, toulouse, etc you'll have a way better time and it's much more beautiful
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	"we got the chicks and places n shit" damn i didn't realise those three wonderful drawing points were missing from paris! was it the tourist-y attractions you disliked, MO? going to be doing a couple of them (notre dame, sacrecoeur etc..) but for the most part i'm hoping to experience 'Little Paris' ie jaunting around bars and cafes trying to mix with locals
MO 08.22.13	I mean the sites and everything have their appeal of course. But after spending more than 3 or so days there I realized all you're doing is going to famous sites, waiting hours in line (especially the eiffel tower or the louvre) to see something for 15 minutes, and just flocking where all the tourists go. that being said if you're going to mainly stay away from sites and mix with the locals that's sweet, just be wary of scumbags (my gf was approached a few times and I had to step up and get them to fuck off, kinda sketch). it's always noisy, so unless you're staying in a 4-5 star have fun getting a good nights sleep. the people are snobs. some other notes. the moulin rouge show definitely is all its cracked up to be. but it's a 180 EURO show (at least it was that much when I went like 6 years ago so I'd imagine it's gone waaay up). so be ready to fork out huge amounts. don't go on a guided tour of versailles. go it your own way,you'll have way more fun since you can just walk anywhere you want, totally free reign. I'll try and remember more, I always block out paris when I think of france so yea. have fun at least.
MO 08.22.13	**edit louvre takes more than 15 minutes, just using all sites as a general example
anarchistfish 08.22.13	"why would anyone in their perfectly clear mind go to paris?.. fucking french people they're like.. the worst aah i hate their language too, seriously if i ever went to france id have to shoot people.. with real bullets" dude, brother I've been learnin your language investing myself in your culture (kind of) and this is how you repay me
anarchistfish 08.22.13	paris is a bit overrated though. nice tourist attractions, sure, but the culture isn't anything you can't get better elsewhere. loire valley's where my family's from and it's gorgeous south of france is awesome too. provence, the tarn valley (just spent a week there and it's all rolling hills totally covered in forest), azure coast, the mountains even the massif central is pretty sweet
Shuyin 08.22.13	im a real dick, but admit it, we rule face come to Porto for a few days, youll never want to leave
tommygun 08.22.13	south rules
anarchistfish 08.22.13	i mean i like portuguese but suggesting it's better than french is just hilarious
MrSirLordGentleman 08.22.13	List needs Supertramp - Paris
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	@MO, depending on the size of the queue, we may or may not do the eiffel tower, i guess it's p much essential but i'm genuinely not that bothered about it. definitely avoiding the louvre, i'm not a major art buff by any means but queueing for several hours to see a tiny painting enclosed in bullet-proof glass is bloody unappealing. i'm actually sure the pricing i saw for the moulin rouge show was considerably cheaper, around 100 euros, if i recall correctly - i've looked it up and yeah, it looks really great. thanks for the advice about versailles too!
Relinquished 08.22.13	portugal runs through shuyin's veins so stay the fuck away from it
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	@fish saving some money to do some travelling across the country possibly next summer, so i'll hopefully be able to experience provincial france in all its glory although i might just blow it getting a few nights scattered over europe- berlin, rome etc etc
anarchistfish 08.22.13	also parisians are proper dicks make the rest of us look bad
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	maybe central ones just because of the fact that it's so damn hectic 24/7 but we're in montmartre so hopefully its more chill
MrSirLordGentleman 08.22.13	I thought french from the south were dicks too... Like people from Marseille
anarchistfish 08.22.13	people from marseille just stab you
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	swiftly crossing Marseille off my list of places to live in when older..
MO 08.22.13	"i'm actually sure the pricing i saw for the moulin rouge show was considerably cheaper, around 100 euros, if i recall correctly - i've looked it up and yeah, it looks really great." the thing is. I'm pretty sure they list the price MINUS the mandatory bottle of champagne you have to buy when you actually sit down at your table. yes there is a bottle of champagne you have to buy, there's no way around it.
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	those sneaky bastards. i suppose it'll all be a little too much if two heterosexual blokes go to the moulin rouge show and tuck in to a bottle of champagne..
anarchistfish 08.22.13	what if you just say no
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	then they might just not let us in, they're particularly strict i think, especially with recording devices
zakalwe 08.22.13	I'm sticking up for Paris and the French, it's a great city but it's same as London in as much as stick to the centre. Don't venture into the suburbs unless you want to get robbed, stabbed, engage in conversation with a nutter or end up in a riot.
anarchistfish 08.22.13	london's better. the "centre"'s huge - there's so much to do
DominionMM1 08.22.13	i enjoyed paris when i was there. and i didn't find parisians to be any more dickish than anyone else living in a huge city.
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	i don't think it was ever my intention to knowingly wander into a quartier/banlieue/whatever but i appreciate the instruction!
anarchistfish 08.22.13	they are though
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	let's face it wouldn't we all be dickish if we got in constant, five-lane traffic jams and had tourists in our faces all the time
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	only thing i'm nervous about is navigating the Metro, i ain't used to anything like that, i'm a small town kid.
DominionMM1 08.22.13	"come to Porto for a few days, youll never want to leave" kinda hard to get from europe to south america like that
MrSirLordGentleman 08.22.13	Metro can be fun to use :D... when it's a decent metro... cough cough NYC cough cough
Typhoner 08.22.13	I went to Paris last month and didn't visit the Eiffel Tower (who cares about being on there anyway?) and pretty much avoided the Notre Dame region. Only visit the Louvre in case you have a clear image of want you want to see, I actually prefer MusÃ©e d'Orsay (more recent art, 1800 and later) and Centre Pompidou (contemporary art, if only for the great building - there's also a Lichtenstein retrospective if you're into that kind of art). Also, remember that, even if you're in a touristic part of Paris, it usually only takes a five-minute walk to reach a calmer neighbourhood with nice (and cheaper) bars and restaurants. I stayed close to Montmartre and it was pretty quiet at night, although that depends on the street/hotel. And otherwise, just walk around and see for yourself
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	@Dominion wat @MSLG is that implicating that nyc's metro is good or what i don't even..
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	Typhoner, where abouts in Montmartre were you? I'm holing up in a cheap-ass 2 star just off Bvd de Clichy (that long road with the Moulin Rouge on it)
Typhoner 08.22.13	It wasn't in Montmartre, exactly - close to Place de L'Europe. I can imagine your hotel will be a bit less calm. I hope your hotel will be any good, because hotels in Paris don't really have a great reputation. (my hotel was 3 star and was actually pretty nice). Oh, don't be surprised by the huge amount of Chinese tourists. Just saying.
anarchistfish 08.22.13	"(who cares about being on there anyway?)" 7m people a year
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	oh i'm completely used to asians, they're all over my uni, always falling asleep at library desks i saw one filling their own kettle from the water fountain there once my hotel has 75% from hostelworld so it can't be all bad, i'll only really be sleeping there anyway so it was more a case of finding something affordable with mostly positive reviews
MrSirLordGentleman 08.22.13	@Infamous NYC metro is the worst and dirtiest thing in the world
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	luckily since my french is adequate i won't feel like steve buscemi here on the Metro then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfg4Mx1h2J8
peaks40 08.22.13	Paris is beautiful. I didn't get to go to silencio club though @tommygun man, wtf
peaks40 08.22.13	go to Pere lachaise cemetary
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	did you try to get into silencio, peaks? apparently it's horrendously difficult to get past the bouncers. that's the cemetery where the commune was finally put down in 1871 right? it rings a bell. gonna check up
ButteryBiscuitBass 08.22.13	Go to the South of France [16]
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	no thx
Shuyin 08.22.13	'portugal runs through shuyin's veins so stay the fuck away from it' hey! im not that kinda fanatic
peaks40 08.22.13	Go to the South of France [17] @InfamousGrouse No, I didn't go to the club silencio. Pere Lachaise is where Jim Morrison is buried, as well as Oscar Wilde. The area is beautiful too
InfamousGrouse 08.22.13	gonna try my hand at getting in but i've been reading peoples experiences of getting turned away and it's far from encouraging but #yolo
Shuyin 08.22.13	'kinda hard to get from europe to south america like that' thats my hometown! all things awesome here cuz its fucking portugal :]
Calc 08.22.13	7 does sound pre cool