JaySpiral: What's With The Hate For Avenged Sevenfold?

Suddy911 06.15.13	they try to hard
Suddy911 06.15.13	their sound feels really forced
mindleviticus 06.15.13	I like City of Evil, don't really like their other stuff that much though
JaySpiral 06.15.13	Letting other people's opinion of band affect yours that much is just ridiculous. I'm excited for their new album.
KILL 06.15.13	cos they suck ha
JaySpiral 06.15.13	Dream Theater sounds extremely forced at times, but people recognize them as one of the best, if not THE best progressive band of this era.
sniper 06.15.13	they are terrible
tempest-- 06.15.13	lol
tempest-- 06.15.13	woah look we can harmonise our guitars lets do that for 50 albums people like that right
ZilbelPing 06.15.13	I enjoy CoE and WtF but the rest of their shit sounds forced and incredibly boring.
Gwyn. 06.15.13	Dream Theater sounds extremely forced at times, but people recognize them as one of the best, if not THE best progressive band of this era.
geasoftime 06.15.13	let's begin with the fact that they're not metal at all
Cipieron 06.15.13	singer's voice is atrocious, i can't stand him The Rev was awesome though RIP
sniper 06.15.13	"let's begin with the fact that they're not metal at all" this is false and would be a terrible argument even if it was true.
JaySpiral 06.15.13	"they're not metal at all" Oh wow I never looked at it that way, thank you for your insightful thought.
Maniac! 06.15.13	here let me edit this comment so sea's sphincter can have a break
JaySpiral 06.15.13	@Cipieron See that's an argument I can see, even I sometimes get annoyed with his singing.
Spec 06.15.13	They're aight.
geasoftime 06.15.13	metalcore isn't metal. it's rock. avenged sevenfold is not metal.
Spec 06.15.13	Sounding The Seventh Trumpet and Waking The Fallen are their best.
Cipieron 06.15.13	i like the slide-ups he does with his vocals, but his cleans just sound too cheesy
JaySpiral 06.15.13	What was I expecting from Sputnik other than a bunch of terrible, childish arguments to make their taste in musical somehow seem superior?
Maniac! 06.15.13	"metalcore isn't metal. it's rock. avenged sevenfold is not metal." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OKAY PEOPLE WE CAN LEAVE NOW
ZilbelPing 06.15.13	"metalcore isn't metal. it's rock. avenged sevenfold is not metal" Holy shit.
cagedescending 06.15.13	"metalcore isn't metal. it's rock." lol
sniper 06.15.13	"metalcore isn't metal. it's rock. avenged sevenfold is not metal." lol. also, this band hasn't been metalcore for like 10 years.
KenboSlice 06.15.13	Only Sounding the Seventh Trumpet and Waking the Fallen matter. The rest are shit.
geasoftime 06.15.13	Metalcore comes from hardcore, hardcore comes from punk, punk is rock.
geasoftime 06.15.13	You guys can deny it all you want, but Avenged Sevenfold is categorically rock
Maniac! 06.15.13	"Metalcore comes from hardcore, hardcore comes from punk, punk is rock." LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Maniac! 06.15.13	All modern music is blues/folk by your idiotic logic
ZilbelPing 06.15.13	Oh man, I expect for geasoftime's asshole to be destroyed in a bit
geasoftime 06.15.13	LOLOLOLOLOL you guys don't even know what metal is LOLOL
sniper 06.15.13	"Metalcore comes from hardcore, hardcore comes from punk, punk is rock." are you joking or just retarded
Maniac! 06.15.13	I take that back. all modern music logically begins with caveman grunts. Godspeed You! Black Emperor is caveman grunts
cagedescending 06.15.13	man came from apes, apes came from shrews, men are shrews
tempest-- 06.15.13	metal isn't metal it's blues
Maniac! 06.15.13	all modern music is actually apes scratching their asses in rhythm
ZilbelPing 06.15.13	laura stevenson is jazz
JaySpiral 06.15.13	Metalcore is metal. And Avenged Sevenfold isn't even Metalcore, they're more Thrash than anything. So no matter how you look at it, they're metal. Whether or not you like their music, they're still metal.
cagedescending 06.15.13	books are made of paper, paper comes from trees, books are trees
ZilbelPing 06.15.13	trophy scars is pop punk
ZilbelPing 06.15.13	A7X is not thrash wtf
geasoftime 06.15.13	Now you guys are getting somewhere
Gwyn. 06.15.13	"Metalcore is metal. And Avenged Sevenfold isn't even Metalcore, they're more Thrash than anything. So no matter how you look at it, they're metal. Whether or not you like their music, they're still metal." k you're not helping here go back to the corner
Maniac! 06.15.13	people are actually single-celled organisms
sniper 06.15.13	the basic premise that metalcore is rock is actually correct, it's just a fucking stupid way to categorize it.
climactic 06.15.13	metal and punk are both "rock" jeeeze
Artuma 06.15.13	i don't get the actual hate either, they are just a mediocre band with catchy tunes that made it to the mainstream charts
Maniac! 06.15.13	"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYEtyzyJip4" The post-performance editing is strong with this one.
tempest-- 06.15.13	clouds are dolphins
geasoftime 06.15.13	Well, it's true none the less. Metalcore is closer to being rock than it is to being metal
geasoftime 06.15.13	You guys can mock it all you want, but you're just making fools out of yourselves and demonstrating how little you really know about music
climactic 06.15.13	^ dude what are you even talking about it has metal in the damn name and metal is a subgenre of rock so yea
Spec 06.15.13	Dumbest comment I've read in a while. Fucking twat.
sniper 06.15.13	holy shit are these actually supposed to be live videos?
climactic 06.15.13	weve been trolled
Artuma 06.15.13	wtf is this thread lol
cagedescending 06.15.13	geas confirmed for another cap alt, we've been had
Maniac! 06.15.13	I might actually agree that Avenged are closer to rock than anything, but saying "metalcore is essentially rock" is fucking retarded
geasoftime 06.15.13	Metalcore is rock. Period.
KILL 06.15.13	y does this band suck? because they suck roll the boners
Gwyn. 06.15.13	"Metalcore is rock. Period." metal is rock
JaySpiral 06.15.13	Funny how the metal community gets mocked for arguing over genres. And look what this ended up turning into.
cagedescending 06.15.13	rock is dead
geasoftime 06.15.13	I know it's tough for you all to realize that you've been living a lie your whole lives, but you're going to have to prepare to be extradited out of the kingdom of metal. back to rock slums for you posers
Maniac! 06.15.13	I thought we established that all music is caveman grunts
geasoftime 06.15.13	LOL I SEE WHAT U DID THAR
climactic 06.15.13	i mean there's the super broad term "rock music" and then there's the actual genre of rock like foo fighters and whatever metalcore, punk, heavy metal, and whatever else your little hearts desire fall under "rock music" but that doesnt mean that their specific genre is ROCK
geasoftime 06.15.13	andcas, nice arbitrary comparison there
Gwyn. 06.15.13	"Funny how the metal community gets mocked for arguing over genres. And look what this ended up turning into." geasoftime being gay whats new metuhl lifs m
climactic 06.15.13	"y does this band suck? because they suck roll the boners" lol
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geasoftime 06.15.13	gwynbleidd shut up and go collect some sticks and rocks to eat for dinner
XingKing 06.15.13	Waking the Fallen is a genuinely enjoyable album but something went retarded in their brains and they thought "Hey, let's get rid of everything from Waking the Fallen that actually made us popular and let's make really really shitty music instead!"
Gwyn. 06.15.13	ahaha havent seen that in ages
Maniac! 06.15.13	can we all agree that their singer dresses like a douchebag?
cagedescending 06.15.13	Yes, but the real question is has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
geasoftime 06.15.13	DOWN WITH "METAL"CORE. I'm petitioning the whitehouse to have metal removed from the genre name. I'll have 100000 signatures in 2 hours flat. kiss your pseudo genre goodbye freaks
Spec 06.15.13	Wearing aviators on stage is so fucking lame.
Spec 06.15.13	Are your parents brother and sister?
KILL 06.15.13	http://www.7rt.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Avenged-Sevenfold-Band.jpg
KILL 06.15.13	hey spec didnt you do that exact pose back in ur rockin days
tempest-- 06.15.13	rockcore is the next big thing
cagedescending 06.15.13	geas bro hav u evne herd Integratiy??!?
climactic 06.15.13	""Hey, let's get rid of everything from Waking the Fallen that actually made us popular and let's make really really shitty music instead!"" cept they got 50x more popular when city of evil came out..
Gwyn. 06.15.13	some of his hairdos are so fucking weird
geasoftime 06.15.13	i shore have cayg
JaySpiral 06.15.13	So I should just delete this, yeah?
Maniac! 06.15.13	"So I should just delete this, yeah?" What did you expect was going to happen?
KILL 06.15.13	if ur a pussy go ahead and delete yea
Spec 06.15.13	"hey spec didnt you do that exact pose back in ur rockin days" yeah at halloween
tempest-- 06.15.13	you should delete your life OHHOHHHHHh
KILL 06.15.13	spec be proud bro freedom of expression i fully support!
ChopSuey 06.15.13	shut up kid
JaySpiral 06.15.13	@Maniac Honestly for like 2 seconds I thought it might go well. But nope. @KILL Ok
Spec 06.15.13	the bitches loved it too, no regrets
cagedescending 06.15.13	this has gone even better than expected
tempest-- 06.15.13	who operates moaropeth because metalcore isn't metal deserves a spot in history
KILL 06.15.13	bitches do love the fairies its true jay bro jam some priest
cagedescending 06.15.13	a new sput classic
Spec 06.15.13	"who operates moaropeth because metalcore isn't metal deserves a spot in history" acad
SeaAnemone 06.15.13	yeah this thread is like poetically tragic
Mister Twister 06.15.13	I wish I could pos/neg comments.
cagedescending 06.15.13	next Sput survey that comes through i'm requesting that as a feature
geasoftime 06.15.13	Metalcore really isn't metal. Not that the metal-archives are a definitive source, but you won't find a single metalcore band listed there for exactly that reason. Metalcore is rock masquerading as metal. Having metal in the name doesn't make it metal. That's a fallacy. It's rock and anyone who understands music has no choice but to concede to that whether or not you think it's a frivolous distinction.
climactic 06.15.13	metal is rock omg
bakkermaarten007 06.15.13	"Metalcore really isn't metal. Not that the metal-archives are a definitive source, but you won't find a single metalcore band listed there for exactly that reason. Metalcore is rock masquerading as metal. Having metal in the name doesn't make it metal. That's a fallacy. It's rock and anyone who understands music has no choice but to concede to that whether or not you think it's a frivolous distinction." That's because some argue it falls under 'Hardcore' (metalcore is sometimes called metallic hardcore for that reason), but saying it's rock is just plain ridiculous.
Maniac! 06.15.13	Metal is just as much rooted in blues and rock as hardcore is, if not even moreso.
climactic 06.15.13	"Metalcore is rock masquerading as metal." what is this shit
SeaAnemone 06.15.13	early metalcore like integrity and earth crisis were geared more around breakdowns and emphasized the "hardcore" aspect of metalcore, but the more melodic (shit) stuff like AS leans more heavily on the metal side of the spectrum (by just sounding like metal in a generic sense -- fitting since the band is so fucking generic, as well). if you wanna say that AS in particular aren't metal and are more just hard rock well alright cool.... they definitely did that style more in their later albums sure... but they're a horrible band anyway and that doesn't change the fact that it's really fucking dumb to try and argue such a strong distinction between metalcore and metal that the former is merely "rock" (lol). I mean seriously I don't even listen to much metalcore at all because it's largely a forgettable genre and even I know this.
SeaAnemone 06.15.13	and goddam geasoftime plz delete maniac's comment so the page stops doing this shit
Mister Twister 06.15.13	The metal-archives aren't listing metalcore bands because they explicitly hate metalcore. It's a part of the site. Metal is a derivative form of rock, so all metal is rock using your logic. In fact, metalcore--->hardcore--->punk--->rock. That's more steps that metal: metal--->hard rock--->rock. So, using your logic against you, metalcore is more distant from rock than other forms of metal.
Tyrael 06.15.13	djent > metalcore
XingKing 06.15.13	I know they blew the fuck up when City of Evil dropped, but Waking the Fallen actually put them on the map. They had shirts and shit in Hot Topic when Waking the Fallen was released
SeaAnemone 06.15.13	like seriously this isn't even an argument concerning music knowledge at this point it's just basic logic and/or your inability to communicate
DrMaximus 06.15.13	Listen to more metal, man. True metal.
climactic 06.15.13	tl;dr some metalcore is more hardcore-leaning, some others are more metal-leaning but its all METALcore
Mister Twister 06.15.13	Fuck it, why can't we all just listen to some neo-classical? Go look into Majestic, that's an awesome band nobody listens to. I'm not just saying that to get people to look at my review of Abstract Symphony, I'm saying that because they're my favorite band.
NapalmCrusader 06.15.13	Lol, this thread, nothing against this band. Is just another group with pros and cons. Both fans and haters of this band have exaggerated behaviors.
ethixx 06.15.13	people love to hate!
Mister Twister 06.15.13	I think Lakes posted in the wrong thread. In this thread, everybody laughed at geas for a bit because he thinks metalcore is rock. Now I'm shamelessly advertising for Majestic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB8rBRIbyS8
Maniac! 06.15.13	You're welcome, Eric.
Trebor. 06.15.13	Listen to more metal and you will know why they suck
Mister Twister 06.15.13	I really hope you're referring to A7X and not Majestic with that, Trebor17. I couldn't take someone telling me that Majestic sucks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzFTtGyiduE
Mister Twister 06.15.13	Hey look, I've killed my first thread! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UruLGOeVILI&NR=1&feature=endscreen
JaySpiral 06.15.13	@Trebor I listen to plenty of metal.
GnarlyShillelagh 06.15.13	1 is not bad tbh, the rest sucks
anarchistfish 06.15.13	"metalcore isn't metal. it's rock. avenged sevenfold is not metal." lmao
Mister Twister 06.15.13	There, my Majestic whoring has saved the thread it had already killed! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rimNib0oyZI I'm gonna keep doing it until someone joins me in fanboyism.
MuhNamesTyler 06.15.13	They're obviously "Rockcore"
ILJ 06.15.13	oh my god this thread is an abortion somebody please stop this monstrosity
Mister Twister 06.15.13	I'm trying to save it by spamming Majestic until people forget about the metalcore logic debate. I thought I had ended it earlier. People need to just listen to Majestic.
anarchistfish 06.15.13	thread is gold
ZippaThaRippa 06.15.13	aborted gold.
ShadowRemains 06.15.13	epic fail
Gwyn. 06.15.13	metalcore
geasoftime 06.15.13	Nice, I won. Fatality!
Gwyn. 06.15.13	coremetal
cagedescending 06.15.13	rock solid core
NapalmCrusader 06.15.13	Is just another mainstream metal band which has made some good material but they also have some bad songs ( ex: dear god and a little piece of heaven), instrumentation is ok ( catchy and enjoyable but nothing spectacular). Their lyrical work is a mixed bag. Maybe my least favorite aspect of A7X is the vocal work of shadows in some songs.
Rsetness9 06.16.13	maybe cause they suck
Kman418 06.16.13	geas why do you have such awesome taste in idm but yet you're such a cunt when it comes to everything else
ChopSuey 06.16.13	Avenged Scrotumfold
Mister Twister 06.16.13	Someone pos'd the review of Abstract Symphony! That means someone actually did check out Majestic! :D No additional ratings given though :(
Scoot 06.16.13	lol i never saw this false as a band can get and they dress weird and are fggts
amemento 06.16.13	they have some ok songs but singer sucks and they doodle 4 to long tl;dr fuck off
climactic 06.17.13	m shadows is such a faggot
Dodecahedron 06.17.13	I'm ashamed to say they're from my hometown.
Dodecahedron 06.17.13	And the vocalist has one of the most annoying voices I've heard.
KenboSlice 06.17.13	Singer used to be good. Whole band used to be good.
MO 06.17.13	terrible thread, oh its to do with this band. figures
Mister Twister 06.17.13	Wanna hear a band that is the opposite of terrible? Go check out Majestic. /shamelessadvertising
nononsense 06.17.13	brandon my good friend, I promise you from many personal experiences they sound that dead on live : ) I can back this up. One of the better live bands. M Shadows has an incredibly strong voice. Don't care much for them anymore they were my favorite band in high school though. WTF and COE are still pretty decent.
Keyblade 06.17.13	oh man this thread is gold I don't get why people struggle with genres though. They were metalcore for the first 2 albums (closer to hardcore on the first one, and closer to metal on the second one), the rest of their shit is hard rock. Also, there are a shitload of metalcore and deathcore bands on MA it just depends on which side of the spectrum they lean towards. Most of the melodic metalcore bands are there like KsE, AILD, Shadows Fall etc.
dante1991 06.21.13	I enjoy a bit of A7X from time to time. Infact, I really like Waking the Fallen, it's probably one of my favourite metalcore albums. Why haven't you included Sounding the Seventh Trumpet btw? As for the latest 3, City of Evil is good fun as is Nightmare, but s/t is childish with awful lyrics/vocals. The cleans on the new material seem really nasally at times, they were much better on Waking and more effective when contracted off the screams, IMO.
omnipanzer 06.21.13	All life comes from shit, Avenged Seven Fold is shit.
Mister Twister 06.21.13	Of all of the threads he could have bumped...
oltnabrick 06.27.13	bump
oltnabrick 06.27.13	but whats with the hate?
MuhNamesTyler 06.27.13	Property of Carl's Jr.
oltnabrick 06.27.13	"gwynbleidd shut up and go collect some sticks and rocks to eat for dinner" boom
oltnabrick 06.27.13	Metalcore really isn't metal. Not that the metal-archives are a definitive source, but you won't find a single metalcore band listed there for exactly that reason. Metalcore is rock masquerading as metal. Having metal in the name doesn't make it metal. That's a fallacy. It's rock and anyone who understands music has no choice but to concede to that whether or not you think it's a frivolous distinction.
Mister Twister 06.27.13	This should have stayed dead.
oltnabrick 06.27.13	legends never die
Mister Twister 06.27.13	The metal-archives aren't listing metalcore bands because they explicitly hate metalcore. It's a part of the site. Metal is a derivative form of rock, so all metal is rock using your logic. In fact, metalcore--->hardcore--->punk--->rock. That's more steps that metal: metal--->hard rock--->rock. So, using your logic against you, metalcore is more distant from rock than other forms of metal. [2] Yes, I just quoted my own post.
MuhNamesTyler 06.27.13	The equivalent of liking your own status on Facebook
Mister Twister 06.27.13	I know it's tough for you all to realize that you've been living a lie your whole lives, but you're going to have to prepare to be extradited out of the kingdom of metal. back to rock slums for you posers I would do anything to mock this guy. Liking one's own Facebook status is stooping quite low, but he seems to have thought it was a limbo competition.
NeoSpaz 06.27.13	lawl
geasoftime 07.08.13	Metalcore isn't metal
JaySpiral 07.08.13	As sixdegrees said, never 4get
DegausserGuernica24 07.08.13	MATHCORE DOESN'T HAVE MATH
JokineAugustus 07.08.13	I'm gonna ROCK out to Converge later! Get it???
Mister Twister 07.08.13	I've seen "Blues" guitarists with red guitars. What the fuck is up with that?
oltnabrick 09.15.13	bump
Spec 09.15.13	well then clearly they aren't trve blues guitar players
oltnabrick 09.15.13	200 comments #weoutchea
JaySpiral 09.15.13	3 months ago 2day. never4get
Spec 09.15.13	I got the 200th comment.
oltnabrick 11.26.13	AND I BUMMMMMMMMMMMMP BUMP AFTER BUMP AFTER BUMP
oltnabrick 11.26.13	just got here from one of his comments he made 2day actually
InbredJed 11.26.13	how dare you bump this, you brick-shaped turd
oltnabrick 11.26.13	sixdegrees shut up and go collect some sticks and rocks to eat for dinner
oltnabrick 11.26.13	watch your f bombs climactic. and they're from my hometown as well. nice guys.
InbredJed 11.26.13	yesh this thread is bumpin now
Slut 11.26.13	Best thread ever
PunchforPunch 11.26.13	"metalcore isn't metal. it's rock. avenged sevenfold is not metal." fucking lol
oltnabrick 01.12.14	bump
Spec 01.12.14	Hail To The Nig
Mister Twister 01.12.14	good times were had all around
oltnabrick 02.28.14	http://itsalmo.st/#thetimeforthehateforavengedsevenfold
apert 02.28.14	why would you bump this
oltnabrick 02.28.14	out
Gwyn. 02.28.14	why would you bump this
Mister Twister 03.01.14	why would you bump this
StallionMang 03.01.14	why would you bump this
TheGreatQ 03.01.14	why would you bump this
fallenbird 03.01.14	I like A Little Peace Of Heaven but nothing else by these guys
laucha1266 03.01.14	i hope you all die
oltnabrick 07.25.14	did any one even answer the question LOL
oltnabrick 07.25.14	@sixdegrees a7x are an underrated group and even if they get hate they can still play real music.
betray 07.25.14	attila is classical
oltnabrick 03.22.15	I know it's tough for you all to realize that you've been living a lie your whole lives, but you're going to have to prepare to be extradited out of the kingdom of metal. back to rock slums for you posers
R6Rider 03.22.15	Why are you commenting on this oltna?
JokineAugustus 03.22.15	He's really a huge A7X fan
rasputin 03.22.15	metalcore comes from hardcore from comes thrash so AX7 is djent
JaySpiral 03.23.15	Fuck the hipsters dood. To be serious though, my tastes have changed so much since posting this. It's pretty funny and nostalgic to come back to this.
Aftertheascension 03.23.15	Because people on this website would rather jam taylor swift and bjork.
WesleyJones 03.23.15	They're a mediocre boy band
Aftertheascension 03.23.15	That may be so, but taylor swift is just a money making machine and bjork is horrendously overrated.
Frippertronics 03.23.15	dude tone down that shit taste
oltnabrick 03.23.15	shut up and go collect some sticks and rocks to eat for dinner
Aftertheascension 03.23.15	"taylor swift is a better song writer and musician than anyone in avenged sevenfold" sputnik has lost a chromosome
Snake. 03.23.15	don't worry you gain like ten with each comment you post
treeqt. 03.23.15	you have three
treeqt. 03.23.15	fuck y'all
Frippertronics 03.23.15	bjork's worst is better than anything your favorite bands' best album fact
treeqt. 03.23.15	that is actually wrong i have about a thousand albums rated 2.0
oltnabrick 03.23.15	fact
Asdfp277 03.23.15	[2]
pedro70512 03.23.15	I really dislike whatshisfuck's clean singing. It's like he's got a clothespin on his nose during songs like Beast and the Harlot. Band is generally pretty good but lately don't even sound like they're trying.
Frippertronics 03.23.15	damn qt wasn't talking bout you
treeqt. 03.23.15	i know but i thought i'd make this about me because who give a care about some a7x stan
Snake. 03.23.15	looking back through this thread this geasoftime guy was a total genius
WesleyJones 03.23.15	They just steal riffs from the Jonas brothers who are 10000000x more talented
WesleyJones 03.23.15	I'm a pedophile
Aftertheascension 03.23.15	"taylor swift is a better song writer and musician than anyone in avenged sevenfold" my favorite band is saosin so (sentimental value)
Frippertronics 03.23.15	cool
WesleyJones 03.23.15	Rebbecca black pwns all
Asdfp277 03.23.15	is she in the database edit: she is
treeqt. 03.23.15	too bad i just got a new name thing
betray 03.23.15	always a good day when this gets bumped back into my discussions
Aftertheascension 03.23.15	Great thread
Keyblade 03.23.15	"you could say he's doing a lot of jail time" lmao rip, hope my dude makes a comeback
oltnabrick 08.16.15	taylor swift is a better song writer and musician than anyone in avenged sevenfold
oltnabrick 08.16.15	I know it's tough for you all to realize that you've been living a lie your whole lives, but you're going to have to prepare to be extradited out of the kingdom of metal. back to rock slums for you posers
Frippertronics 08.16.15	You guys can mock it all you want, but you're just making fools out of yourselves and demonstrating how little you really know about music
TheSonomaDude 08.16.15	some good songs tbh, but they are usually pretty generic and boring.
Asdfp277 08.16.15	I'm petitioning the whitehouse to have metal removed from the genre name. I'll have 100000 signatures in 2 hours flat. kiss your pseudo genre goodbye freaks
oltnabrick 08.12.16	early metalcore like integrity and earth crisis were geared more around breakdowns and emphasized the "hardcore" aspect of metalcore, but the more melodic (shit) stuff like AS leans more heavily on the metal side of the spectrum (by just sounding like metal in a generic sense -- fitting since the band is so fucking generic, as well). if you wanna say that AS in particular aren't metal and are more just hard rock well alright cool.... they definitely did that style more in their later albums sure... but they're a horrible band anyway and that doesn't change the fact that it's really fucking dumb to try and argue such a strong distinction between metalcore and metal that the former is merely "rock" (lol). I mean seriously I don't even listen to much metalcore at all because it's largely a forgettable genre and even I know this.
Sevengill 08.12.16	I like Syn's hair
AlexKzillion 08.12.16	Always preferred Zacky's hair for some reason.
Typhoon24 08.12.16	i liked syn's hair before he went and changed his style to this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Avenged_Sevenfold-Rock_im_Park_2014_by_2eight_3SC7619.jpg
Sevengill 08.12.16	ew what is that
Typhoon24 08.12.16	this shit was cool http://data.whicdn.com/images/23518134/original.jpg
oltnabrick 08.12.16	lmfao it was not
Typhoon24 08.12.16	it was lol i thought he was so cool
AlexKzillion 08.12.16	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG1Qcy6XSB0 Always thought Kirk's short hair cut was the coolest thing ever.
Typhoon24 08.12.16	it looks better than whatever the hell else he had on rick james lookin muthafucka
CaimanJesus 08.12.16	The fuck
AlexKzillion 08.12.16	Lol
TheGreatQ 08.12.16	why would you bump this
Sevengill 08.12.16	some men just want to watch the world burn motherfucker burn
Snake. 08.12.16	"why would you bump this" why wouldn't you
sonictheplumber 08.12.16	they suck
CaimanJesus 08.12.16	Pre much
Deathconscious 08.12.16	"Metalcore really isn't metal. Not that the metal-archives are a definitive source, but you won't find a single metalcore band listed there for exactly that reason. Metalcore is rock masquerading as metal. Having metal in the name doesn't make it metal. That's a fallacy. It's rock and anyone who understands music has no choice but to concede to that whether or not you think it's a frivolous distinction." yeah, Converge is just rock pretending to be metal. Botch is just rock pretending to be metal. request an IP ban and log the fuck off, holy shit.
oltnabrick 11.29.16	how bout that new album guys?
Astral Abortis 11.29.16	This thread though
Sevengill 11.29.16	"anyone who understands music has no choice but to concede to that whether or not you think it's a frivolous distinction" good lord.
oltnabrick 11.29.16	"This thread though" its my favorite
Jasdevi087 11.29.16	holy shit I forgot all about that WesleyJones guy lmao
Sinternet 11.29.16	lol aftertheascension was dropping some retard bombs here
Snake. 11.29.16	shocking
Jasdevi087 11.29.16	Aftertheascension 03.22.15 [Report this Post] "taylor swift is a better song writer and musician than anyone in avenged sevenfold" sputnik has lost a chromosome sixdegrees 03.22.15 [Report this Post] good thing u have extra to spare fuckin dead
Sinternet 11.29.16	lmao shit
Snake. 11.29.16	remember when he posted the entire 2nd amendment in the orlando shooting thread and didn't even fucking read it lmao
Avagantamos 11.29.16	good bump. I was in a shit mood and this thread cured it
Sinternet 11.29.16	he's come back to the forums recently and he's like the supreme edgelord atm some nuggets of wisdom: 'How about we just drug test people on welfare and let the stupid fucks starve until they get clean' 'You cannot insult anyone. You are in the top 10 of most idiotic people on Earth.' 'Nothing is going to happen to the fags, do your research.' 'Illegal Immigrants don't have rights - they're not citizens.' '1. I'm not alt right? 2. that's the thing, SJWs and Feminists have never been in touch with the real world. Neither has your stupid ass. Hang yourself, kid.' 'Everyone who lives in your country is a complete joke. You are on a completely different level of sub-human trash.' 'No, the British are sub-human trash that represent the lowest form of humanity.'
Avagantamos 11.29.16	lol holy shit
oltnabrick 08.27.19	BUMP!
Jasdevi087 08.27.19	fuck me this thread was from 6 years ago?
Deathconscious 08.27.19	"Metalcore really isn't metal. Not that the metal-archives are a definitive source, but you won't find a single metalcore band listed there for exactly that reason. Metalcore is rock masquerading as metal. Having metal in the name doesn't make it metal. That's a fallacy. It's rock and anyone who understands music has no choice but to concede to that whether or not you think it's a frivolous distinction." "yeah, Converge is just rock pretending to be metal. Botch is just rock pretending to be metal. request an IP ban and log the fuck off, holy shit." lol damn, i got salty. that's going on my pasta list.
oltnabrick 08.27.19	Metalcore is metal. And Avenged Sevenfold isn't even Metalcore, they're more Thrash than anything. So no matter how you look at it, they're metal. Whether or not you like their music, they're still metal.
TheSpirit 08.27.19	yeah A7x are unequivocally metal
Pikazilla 08.27.19	as they are unequivocally terrible, yes
TheSpirit 08.27.19	first three albums rule so.... i'll give you half credit
Josh D. 08.27.19	they suck, hope this helps
GhandhiLion 08.27.19	I will always defend Waking the Fallen.
Pikazilla 08.27.19	Waking the Fallen has a few good jams, yes. But everything City and after is just cancer
TheSpirit 08.27.19	yeah waking the fallen slaps, which is what i wish i could do to all the haterz in this thread >:[
oltnabrick 08.27.19	Fuck it, why can't we all just listen to some neo-classical? Go look into Majestic, that's an awesome band nobody listens to.
Josh D. 08.27.19	this is the best Avenged song tbh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtMuzFA-URA
alamo 08.27.19	I'VE GOT THOSE GAYS AROUND ME! LIP SYNC!!!
oltnabrick 12.04.19	fucks sake, stop listening to avenged sevenfold you doss cunts
GhandhiLion 12.04.19	@Josh D Bro, you posted a masterpiece
sixdegrees 12.04.19	kiss your pseudo genre goodbye freaks
Josh D. 12.04.19	nice bump, gonna watch my YouTube link again
GhandhiLion 12.04.19	Is that a Tranta quote? If so I need context.
JohnnyoftheWell 12.04.19	thought this was gonna be a "guys leave avengers alone marvel is cinema masterpiece yes very" list disappointed
GhandhiLion 12.04.19	https://youtu.be/CClivXz5J1k hmmm
oltnabrick 12.04.19	this is even better
JohnnyoftheWell 12.04.19	very innovative !
GhandhiLion 12.04.19	pop punk brooo https://youtu.be/XfX0Nr__NgY
Deathconscious 12.04.19	"thought this was gonna be a 'guys leave avengers alone marvel is cinema masterpiece yes very' list" it can be whatever kind of list we want it to be. Infinity War and Endgame are thoroughly entertaining. didnt get into any of the previous Avengers movies all that much though.
mrdogthrow 12.04.19	age of ultron is just kinda yeah