Atari: Alien Vs. Aliens

Atari 06.13.13	Alien for the win
Insurrection 06.13.13	alien for horror aliens for action. both are classics imo
InfamousGrouse 06.13.13	Alien by absolute miles
Atari 06.13.13	that's a good point Ins aliens is definitely more campy and less of a horror
mifzal 06.13.13	Alien
Vakarian12 06.13.13	Aliens.
Atari 06.13.13	I just think Alien is so much more effective..it's just one alien instead of a bunch of guns blazing and hearing newt scream for 20 minutes straight lol
YoYoMancuso 06.13.13	Alien, not only did it influence my favorite TV show (X Files) but it also is just more important as a piece of filmmaking.
Hyperion1001 06.13.13	aliens rules but alien is superior in pretty much every way
Atari 06.13.13	ya i have them both on blu ray and i remember thinking they were about the same but alien wins by a landslide agreed
Havey 06.13.13	can i vote ATLiens
YoYoMancuso 06.13.13	^ dude the sequel Aquemini blows that out of the water
Atari 06.13.13	i like atliens and aquemini about the same. outkast is one of the only hip-hop artists i can stand
DominionMM1 06.13.13	alien
engleprunt 06.13.13	Tough one. Both Awesome. Insurrection pretty much said it. When I was a kid, I'd say Aliens but now, Alien.
AtomicShane 06.13.13	ya both slay, but alien
Hoppoman 06.13.13	Alien is the better horror film, aliens is the better action film.
ButteryBiscuitBass 06.13.13	Aliens agreed
evilford 06.13.13	both rule but Alien hard agred
oltnabrick 06.13.13	Alien I guess
ConcubinaryCode 06.13.13	I have never seen either. Am I a bad person?
oltnabrick 06.13.13	Yeah
MO 06.13.13	alien
omnipanzer 06.13.13	Both for very different reasons. Alien is the better cinematic experience but Aliens is the better action/horror film and is infinitely more quotable.
Mad. 06.13.13	Alien is one of the best horror movies of all time, Aliens is one of the best action movies of all time. They're both superb, for different reasons so I'd hate to choose between them. The real question is: Dumb and Dumber or Dumb and Dumberer?
Shogun 06.13.13	Cant decide, Both films are equally awesome
manosg 06.13.13	Alien.
evilford 06.13.13	only reason aliens can even contend w/ alien is cuz of bill paxton
evilford 06.13.13	also gotta disagree with you omni, aliens is a "better" action movie, agreed on that. but alien is so much better as a horror movie.
Calc 06.13.13	never have and prolly never will see either of them of aliens is def better
Sapient. 06.13.13	both are classics, but I'd pick Alien simply because I remember how much it freaked the shit outta me the first time I watched it
Cipieron 06.13.13	Alien > Aliens > Alien 3 > Alien Resurrection
RivalSkoomaDealer 06.13.13	Alien Vs. Predator: Requiem ...j/k Aliens
Atari 06.13.13	@lately, nope. the mods have stated before there's no specific rule against non music related lists. besides those are two legitmate soundtracks up there with music and everything!! :3
rockandmetaljunkie 06.13.13	Different films, the 1st is a thriller and the 2nd an SF action film. Both are equally great for what they offer and I love both films. However, if I had to choose, I would choose the first film.
ViralOblivion 06.13.13	Alien but I love both so much been watching them since I was 5 I watched Predator recently such a good fucking movie
Atari 06.13.13	I need to see Predator again it's been a LONG time
Cipieron 06.13.13	GET TO TAH NETFLIIIIX
balazs 06.13.13	Alien
bach 06.13.13	Love both equally.
Atari 06.13.13	you can't say that lol imagine a gun pointed to your head now alien or aliens... go! this is life or death!
bach 06.13.13	Dammit! Alien, I suppose.
Atari 06.13.13	nice choice sir u are correct
ViralOblivion 06.13.13	Atari you can pick up predator on blu ray super cheap like 7 bucks and it looks amazing
Atari 06.13.13	sweet ya i had a feeling it would be cheap!
evilford 06.13.13	can we give bill paxton some kind of consolation prize?
Lambda 06.13.13	Aliens is one of my favourite movies of all time
SabertoothMonocle 06.14.13	Aliens is more of the perfect summer blockbuster, while Alien is a blueprint for horror. I enjoy Aliens more due to the explanation of the xenomorph's biology and greater view into the colonization process. The scope of Aliens gives it my #1 vote.
oltnabrick 06.14.13	prometheus is my fav of all alien movies
Cipieron 06.14.13	i just watched Alien last night (blu ray biznitch) i hate how relaxed the crew seems after dude first gets the facehugger. like they're not concerned at all, just acting like "whatevs fag got a bug on his face, time for dinner". plus at the end i hate how the alien is just sleeping in the escape pod.. like "oohh i'm tired of being an unstoppable killing machine. time to sleep in conveniently the one place i could be to not get destroyed on the main ship" besides that movie is tits
Cipieron 06.14.13	i'm changing my vote Aliens
Atari 06.14.13	prometheus sucks it's just a retread of what's already been done. @Cipieron, yeah but it's so cool cause some people were prolly thinking the movie was over but nope the alien is on the escape pod lol
Atari 06.14.13	sorry cipieron no changing your vote allowed alien it is!
Cipieron 06.14.13	http://www.sourcelink.com/images/esig/jerk_pic_1.jpg?sfvrsn=0
Atari 06.14.13	lol i only kid gonna tally up the votes later but i think alien won
Cipieron 06.14.13	yeah, i would've guessed Alien would win. John Hurt ftw
insomniac15 06.14.13	I like both the same, mostly because they're different in approach (horror & action). Prometheus was nice though, I'm curious for a sequel.
TheNotrap 06.15.13	Aliens. Emotional value I guess. I love the casting, the script and Cameron's military approach.
Mad. 06.15.13	'plus at the end i hate how the alien is just sleeping in the escape pod.. like "oohh i'm tired of being an unstoppable killing machine. time to sleep in conveniently the one place i could be to not get destroyed on the main ship"' It's hunting her you tit
Cipieron 06.15.13	hunting her? lol it rustles a bit when she first sees it, then it quiets back down not even looking at her. stupid so Aliens wins. the only thing I don't like about Aliens is they don't give any physical weight to the queen. this could've been done with some easy sound effects, stomping steps and whatnot or even when she's banging her head on the door before ripley gets in the mechsuit. it all still works, but the queen has a puppet-on-a-string weightlessness to her that draws my attention
Atari 06.15.13	lol alien is better
Cipieron 06.15.13	but when the alien comes out of the water and grabs newt? scariest image in the series for me
cagedescending 06.15.13	scariest image in the series for me was Ron Perlman's face in Resurrection
jefflebowski 06.15.13	completely different genres, you can't compare them i personally prefer alien but aliens is one of the best action films ever
Cipieron 06.15.13	it didn't see her? doesn't that undercut how terrifying the alien should be?
Atari 06.15.13	alien wins
Hoppoman 06.15.13	The alien queen was actually a puppet on a string, which is why it looks like a puppet on a string :P
cagedescending 06.15.13	cip give the poor xenomorph a break it was obviously tired from all that stalking and just wanted a brief nap before perforating Ripley's skull so it was a lil groggy geez quit busting its balls (if it has any)
Hoppoman 06.15.13	It's head was designed to look like a penis, so it probably has bigger balls than any of us.
Cipieron 06.15.13	i'm quite aware HOW they did it. pretty sure i said a simple fix would be to give it's steps a louder, heavy noise to artificially give it weight. and you should be sorry andcas, it's your fault
Zig 10.19.18	Alien
DarkSideOfLucca 10.19.18	Alien for sure. The pacing and the atmosphere. It's also one of the scariest films I have ever seen.
Divaman 10.19.18	Aliens by far. One of the greatest action flicks ever. I hate to say this, but Alien kind of bored me.
Rowan5215 10.19.18	quick reminder: Alien 3 fucking rules
bloc 10.19.18	Is that the one in the male prison or whatever? God I hate that movie so much lol. Resurrection ain't any better though.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.19.18	Alien 3 does not rule at all lol. I appreciate that they TRIED to bring back some of the horror and make it relentless but that movie is such a goddamn mess I don't even know where to begin.
DungeonBoy 10.19.18	"alien for horror aliens for action. both are classics" end of thread.
artiswar 10.19.18	Alien 3 is one of the most bafflingly bad films ever made. Poor Fincher.
NOTINTHEFACE 10.19.18	lol @ necrothread but Alien without question.
DungeonBoy 10.19.18	lol Zig, I swear you dig up old threads all the time no? Pretty sure I've seen you resurrect some of the most ancient lists on this site more than once.
Rowan5215 10.19.18	ok let's get into this so Alien 3 has: - the best cast of any of these films outside of Alien and tbh not a huge gap between the two either - actually advances the physiology of the xenomorphs in a logical and interesting way rather than just throwing in some fucking Alien Queen trash - actually develops characters who AREN'T Ripley in a somewhat interesting way (moreso in Fincher's directors cut which is the only cut anyone should be watching anyway) - as a subsidiary to the character point, promptly gets rid of fucking Newt and the bullshit James Cameron mother redemption theme along with it thank God - is dope visually, locationally, great set design and use of space to build paranoia and unease - most of all tonally and thematically is a proper sequel to Alien and not some silly action movie these are the facts and you're all welcome
MO 10.19.18	lol nice 5 year old bump m/
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.19.18	Alien, but Aliens is almost as awesome.
Divaman 10.19.18	Alien 3 is underrated.
mandan 10.19.18	Aliens is an awesome action film, but prefer Alien, perhaps because of Scott's atmosphere, among other possible factors. Need to rewatch both at some point.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.19.18	@Rowan - -I know this is a common complaint but killing off the best characters (other than Ripley) off screen in the way they did (plus the autopsy) made the victory of the last film meaningless, and not in a dark and creative way, just in a plot device way...especially to just do it during the opening credits like it was nothing. To go from the epicness of the last movie to this is just...oof - The fact that there was an Alien on the ship and Ripley didn't check the ship to notice that is the DUMBEST FUCKING THING IN THE WORLD. Ripley, the smartest person in this series who fought an alien queen by herself and has PTSD from this isn't going to check the ship? Arreeeee yyyooouuuu kiddding me? -Shoehorning that storyline of Ripley sleeping with that dude from Game of Thrones was weird and out of character. Although that GoT character was SORT of becoming an interesting character and then as soon as that happened he died and we were stuck with a bunch of insufferable assholes again. - Disagree hard on the best cast. Good actors were giving hammy performances and every character was an unlikable piece of shit, which I get was the point but it was really annoying to watch and be stuck with these cunts for that long. - Worst actual alien creature by far. Even for the time, those effects were completely unacceptable to the point of where it actually takes me out of the movie, and I usually like cheesy special effects. But this was like Mortal Kombat: Annihilation bad. -I'd have to go back and watch it but I remember there were mannnnyyyy scenes that didn't make sense. Like the idea to kill the Alien - "Let's pour gasoline over everything and run around with flares." There were many others but I can't remember them at this time. -Chestburster waiting until the last few minutes of the movie to come out of Ripley. Also the Assembly cut isn't even a director's cut, as Fincher himself says "there is no director's cut" because the studio was fucking with his vision so much during the process that an actual director's cut doesn't exist. The assembly's cut is slightly better for fleshing out some things but it's still not a good movie imo.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.19.18	Alien 3 could've been so much better if it was one and only one person having creative control.
twlight 10.19.18	Alien is better. Alien 3 is a bad movie.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.19.18	That ventilation shaft scene is horror movie gold.
DungeonBoy 10.19.18	lol yeah, but it's so clearly a person if you rewatch it. Alien. Queen. Trash? The Alien Queen is the best puppet pretty much ever. Get out.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.19.18	"lol yeah, but it's so clearly a person if you rewatch it." That's a part of what makes it gold imo. That plus it done scurred me straight the first time seeing it and hearing that shriek. XD the Alien Queen is so awesome. Even her appearance in AVP was rad.
Risodo 10.19.18	Alien
Deathconscious 10.19.18	I prefer the masterful atmosphere of Alien over the fun action of Aliens. Love them both though.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.19.18	@Thrust! That's a good idea. It seems like Alien is outweighing the sequel though.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.19.18	Also Alien 3 isn't terrible, but it's the clunkiest film in the franchise.
theacademy 10.19.18	they are both near perfect and aliens is the greatest sequel of all time without question
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.19.18	@theacademy Beats T2 as a sequel imo
artiswar 10.19.18	Is this a bad time to mention I like Resurrection?
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.19.18	@artiswar I don't hate that film either. The underwater scene was definitely cool.
Deathconscious 10.19.18	You PIECE OF SHIT. Jk, i havent even seen it. Ive only seen the first two.
Divaman 10.19.18	I think my problem with Alien is I had seen "It, The Terror From Beyond Space" first. Alien is obviously slicker, and has its own creative scenes, but its basic story felt like a remake of the earlier film.
bloc 10.19.18	"Alien 3 is underrated." Nah man. Now AvP? That's an underrated movie.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.19.18	I think T2 is the better sequel but not by much. They're both the two best movies in the sci-fi action genre so Resurrection is godawful with a the tone of Batman & Robin. I won't accept a defense of that film. I REFUSE! And yeah, Alien 3 still sucks.
SitarHero 10.19.18	Both are totally different movies and complete classics in their own right.
SitarHero 10.19.18	And I agree with Lucca. Alien 3 killed the franchise with its awfulness. Resurrection just came along and fucked its corpse.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.19.18	SitarHero knows whatsup m/
GUNGFUHAMMERFIST 10.19.18	Alien
artiswar 10.19.18	AHAHAA the comparison to Batman & Robin hits so hard home because that was literally my first VHS as a kid and I watched it every single day for years because it was all I had lmao. But seriously, Resurrection was on at midnight every single New Years when I was a kid. It was like tradition to watch it. Also I'm a Joss Whedon fan so I have to love it. And the underwater scene is fucking horrifying to me since I have a deep phobia of sharks. That's all I have to defend that movie, it's not great even though I love watching it, but it's still way better than those AVP piece of shit movies. Seriously kill yourself if you tricked yourself into thinking you enjoyed those.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.19.18	"Seriously kill yourself if you tricked yourself into thinking you enjoyed those." I real life lol'd at this ahaha And that's fair, man. It just REALLY wasn't my thing - I also have no nostalgia with that movie so that doesn't help.
bloc 10.19.18	Lmao that's harsh art. The first AvP is solid. It's got everything you'd need in it.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.19.18	Except for the fact that it's a PG13 movie based on two franchises that have notoriously R rated films in every one of their series. Human harvesting, skull crushing aliens vs spine ripping Predator gives you a PG13 idea? The fuck? And the characters were bbbaaaaaddd. And the slow motion scene of the female lead running next to the Predator as they were escaping was meme worthy. And a lot of other things. Requiem is somehow worse.
Dettlaff 10.19.18	Aliens is soooo much weaker than Alien imo. Weird to compare them though, they're in 2 different genres
Dettlaff 10.19.18	"And the slow motion scene of the female lead running next to the Predator as they were escaping was meme worthy."
artiswar 10.19.18	I checked out of AVP like 15 minutes in when a silent helicopter popped out of nowhere suddenly making noise. I left it on in the background after that. 0 shits were given in the making of that film.
Deathconscious 10.19.18	"Dont jump, man! Suicide is never the answer! Why dont you come down off the ledge and tell me why you're up here? You can talk to me." "well...it all started when i fooled myself into believing i enjoyed Alien Vs Predator-" gets pushed off ledge
rockandmetaljunkie 10.19.18	alien by far, it is a horror masterpiece, innovative, and unique
artiswar 10.19.18	Adolf you kid but I wonder how many teens actually killed themselves because they liked AVP. There should be a special coloured ribbon.
SitarHero 10.19.18	Here's a question: Aliens, Terminator 2 or Predator?
DarkSideOfLucca 10.19.18	Terminator 2, then Aliens (although these are basically tied) then Predator
bloc 10.19.18	T2, Aliens, then Predator imo. All are hard 4.5+ though.
artiswar 10.19.18	pretty much
Minushuman24 10.19.18	Alien is a perfect horror movie, it's so incredibly tense and well built. Aliens is a great action movie. So yeah Alien
Divaman 10.19.18	Aliens, T2, Predator
mandan 10.19.18	Hard to choose between T2 and Predator. I take T2 over Aliens though. Might take Pred over Aliens as well. There you go.
Egarran 10.19.18	Alien 3 isn't bad, but nowhere near as good as 1 and 2. Worst of all the xenomorph is kinda pathetic. It's still 1000 times better than Prometheus and Covenant. Covenant made me realize the mystery of the alien is very important. Alien gave a scary glimpse of the horrors that lurk in outer space and mysterious civilisations. Covenant (spoiler): Nah, it was all due to a miffed robot. It was humans all along! Humans like you, the viewer! Relatable, right?! Yeah so I hate Covenant with a burning passion.
artiswar 10.19.18	Covenant was god awful
DarkSideOfLucca 10.19.18	Let's all just pretend Covenant doesn't exist.
Deathconscious 10.19.18	I heard good things about Prometheus. Might watch that tonight.
artiswar 10.19.18	It has some cool set-pieces but man what a dumb movie
SitarHero 10.19.18	"I heard good things about Prometheus. Might watch that tonight." Lol. Don't. It's the diametric opposite of The Martian. The Martian is about a scientist who survives a hostile alien planet by using his wits. Prometheus is about a bunch of "scientists" who get themselves killed on a not altogether awful alien planet due their complete witlessness.
Deathconscious 10.19.18	Covenant seems to be divisive too. Lots of hate for it but it seems a lot of people thought it was pretty serviceable too. Gonna have to find out myself.
SitarHero 10.19.18	From what I've seen/heard it's exactly as bad as Prometheus. It almost makes you wonder if the Weyland Corp. is secretly experimenting in Darwinist eugenics and population control by sending the dumbest people into space knowing that they're going to get themselves killed.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.19.18	Don't get your hopes up with Prometheus. It looks really cool but uh, thats it.
DungeonBoy 10.19.18	Prometheus is much better than Covenant
artiswar 10.19.18	true but it's still extremely dumb
BMDrummer 10.19.18	alien
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.19.18	I liked Prometheus AND Covenant, but I can understand people's gripes with it.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.19.18	Strike, you cray. Prometheus did have amazing art design but the character decisions were some of the most nonsensical decisions I've seen on film. Also, so many other problems. But I actually hate Covenant more because they tried to ruin the lore of the Alien franchise and also just waste my time in general.
budgie 10.19.18	alien
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.19.18	Yeah I'm cray. XD
bloc 10.19.18	Covenant was basically just a slasher, but it was pretty to look at.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.19.18	/ That ship in the beginning looks super cool too. I like Dave in the film as well; he gives the creepiness of the uncanny valley a run for its money imo. I also appreciate the overlayed pieces of him basically fighting himself (the one on one with Walter), and the flute scene was cool too if super gay.
Deathconscious 10.20.18	About halfway through Prometheus, im digging it so far.
bloc 10.20.18	I always liked Prometheus. But it made it that much harder when I finally saw Covenant lol
Divaman 10.20.18	Yeah, I like Prometheus also. Covenant was a huge disappointment as a follow up.
Deathconscious 10.20.18	Just finished it. The last 1/3rd or so had some annoying flaws, but i thought it was good overall. I dont get the hate for it.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.20.18	[2]
KevinKC 10.20.18	Alien, Prometheus >>> Covenant > Aliens >>> Alien 3, Alien 4. Think in terms of maturity. Scott's movies are a lot more adult. Aliens' characters are comic book characters. Also, Prometheus and Covenant are quite underrated. Ridley Scott has made a good amount of risky movies in his career and got slapped in the face several times for it when the movies were actually great. Hannibal. The Counselor. Blade Runner. Prometheus. Covenant. I know Covenant was disappointing, but how much of the disappointement comes from its weaknesses and how much comes from the fact that it was neither Prometheus 2 nor Alien 2 ? It's more of a sci-fi movie than an Alien movie. But it's not bad for all that.
Source 10.20.18	Aliens is my all time favorite movie
Rowan5215 10.20.18	""Alien 3 is underrated." Nah man. Now AvP? That's an underrated movie." oof this cannot be a real take surely
Deathconscious 10.20.18	soooo, i just watched Covenant and i liked that too. even more flawed than Prometheus, but it was worth watching. SPOILERS: disappointed they killed off Daniels though. i thought Waterson was a great actor, and she had a lot of charisma that unfortunately went to waste in this movie. it shouldve focused on her more.
Source 10.20.18	Predator 2 is underrated. AvP and Alien 3 suck
budgie 10.20.18	predator 2 is the los angeles one right
Source 10.20.18	Yes
budgie 10.20.18	pretty cool movie
bloc 10.20.18	Predators with Adrian Brody was alright too
Source 10.20.18	I thought they tried to make it too much like the first one. That's why I like predator 2. It was its own movie and it worked imo
budgie 10.20.18	i can only really remember the scene where mr. predator is in someone's bathroom and yells and jumps out the window
Source 10.20.18	Do you remember the ending with the flint lock pistol? Best part
SitarHero 10.20.18	Predator 2 is a perfectly competent but unremarkable action movie. Predators (2010) is the same. The Predator (2018) could have been a fucking great summer action flick if the production team had half a brain cell among the lot of them.
Source 10.20.18	Never saw The Predator and I never will
SitarHero 10.20.18	"Prometheus >>> Covenant > Aliens >>> Alien 3, Alien 4" Best worst ranking ever. xD
Source 10.20.18	Prometheus is bad. Like really bad
bloc 10.20.18	I'm glad The Predator trailer spoiled the entire movie because I just saved 10 bucks from watching it lol
Source 10.20.18	I probably wouldn't even watch it for free
artiswar 10.20.18	the abortion scene in Prometheus was pretty freaky
Source 10.20.18	Yes the medical table designed for men performs a c section. One of the more baffling parts of the movie
bloc 10.20.18	That was kiddy shit
Deathconscious 10.20.18	That was where the movie started going off the rails a little. Where were the people trying to get her quarantined the whole time shes in the medical pod? What kind of shitty futuristic surgery machine doesnt administer anesthesia or even hold the patient down while its working?
artiswar 10.20.18	Surgical shit always squicks me out more than other stuff
bloc 10.20.18	I think everyone else was dead at that point no? Or at least knocked out or whatever.
twlight 10.20.18	Avp was a fun movie
twlight 10.20.18	Prometheus and covenant had good atmosphere. But that's about it
budgie 10.20.18	YES source i do, that was awesome!
budgie 10.20.18	the worst thing about covenant is that everytime i listen to entry of the gods into valhalla the youtube comments are "came here from covenant xDDD" x100000 ad nauseam
Deathconscious 10.20.18	@bloc the two scientists in the hazmat suits werent dead, they were trying to quarantine her. I think she hit them with something, but i dont think they were knocked out. So she got away and then theyre just forgotten about.
bloc 10.20.18	Lol true, we never really saw them after that scene did we
Source 10.20.18	Prometheus may have the dumbest cast of characters I've seen in a non comedy
artiswar 10.21.18	The scientists react to every alien creature like 'come here kitty, good kitty! OW it bit me'
DarkSideOfLucca 10.21.18	@artiswar- Lmao that scene is fucking ridiculous. So many bafflingly dumb decisions, it’s almost like a stark contrast to the surrounding, beautiful art design
Source 10.21.18	Omg that part where they keep trying to touch the alien that's clearly wanting to attack them is one of the most mind boggling things I've ever seen
klap 10.21.18	"Yes the medical table designed for men performs a c section. One of the more baffling parts of the movie" this is the kind of criticism that is lol. really nitpicking this detail? they're on a goddamn spaceship flying to an alien planet. i imagine their technology is advanced enough to program a c-section even if originally designed for men (iirc it was designed for the old guy doesn't mean it's sex-restricted) focus on the actual stupid shit, like basically the rest of the incoherent plot after they land and charlize not running right
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.21.18	It'll be interesting to see how Ridley Scott finishes off his series.
Source 10.21.18	"this is the kind of criticism that is lol. really nitpicking this detail? they're on a goddamn spaceship flying to an alien planet. i imagine their technology is advanced enough to program a c-section even if originally designed for men (iirc it was designed for the old guy doesn't mean it's sex-restricted) focus on the actual stupid shit, like basically the rest of the incoherent plot after they land and charlize not running right" Yeah I could "imagine" ways to explain away every plot hole in any movie ever made, but I'm not in the habit of doing that personally
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.21.18	I don't honestly mind the direction of Androids and stuff, but it seems Scott is more content raising questions than answering them which is a bit annoying. I like the films overall, but at this rate, the payoff needs to be really good.
bloc 10.21.18	Anyone see Life from this year? Also very disappointed with it
artiswar 10.21.18	When the android chick who's supposed to be very intelligent is running in a straight line away from the vertical ship is the funniest shit ever. It reminded of that movie 2012 when they fly the plane underneath the collapsing building instead of going over.
Source 10.21.18	Or in Jurassic Park when they climb down the tree directly under the jeep instead of climbing around to the other side of the tree
bloc 10.21.18	Charlize wasn't an android in Prom though was she?
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.21.18	Haven't seen Life. Seems like an Alien rip-off.
bloc 10.21.18	Lol it basically is
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.21.18	XD nah I'm good.
Source 10.21.18	I wanted to see it but heard it was mediocre
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.21.18	IT'S GAME OVER MAN GAME OOOOooooVER
Deathconscious 10.21.18	"Haven't seen Life. Seems like an Alien rip-off." pretty much, except where Alien had loads of atmosphere, Life had none. it started out on a good note. the part where the lifeform starts crushing the guy's arm in the beginning is really tense and edge of your seat, and then the movie just devolves into a stupid CGI alien thing flying around the space station and coming to get them without much in the way of horror.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.21.18	Also sounds like The Thing (2011) in a bad way.
Egarran 10.21.18	"Covenant was basically just a slasher, but it was pretty to look at." AKA it's better to be tortured by an attractive person.
Egarran 10.21.18	I like how we try to ignore that a seemingly intelligent and sympathetic person like Adolf was cool with Prometheus and Covenant. But I can't. Like wtf, dude. They dumbed down the concept of a scientist to the point of them being idiots and then they took the Alien and shit down its mouth. Scott did a Lucas.
Deathconscious 10.21.18	Even the first movie had some dumb ass characters. Horror movies require stupid decisions, otherwise these scenarios would never play out.
teamster 10.21.18	"Predators with Adrian Brody was alright too" Not horrible.
artiswar 10.21.18	squeal like a pig xenomorph
bloc 10.21.18	"AKA it's better to be tortured by an attractive person." Haha, touche
bloc 10.21.18	I still think the Adrian-Predators movie should have ended with them standing there tired and beaten up like usual, but then a red laser points at em, and then another, and then another, and then another and the screen goes black
SitarHero 10.21.18	"Even the first movie had some dumb ass characters. Horror movies require stupid decisions, otherwise these scenarios would never play out." The difference between Alien(s) and Prometheus is that the former had characters making bad decisions under duress, you know, the way normal people do. All of Prometheus, on the other hand, is built on characters literally fucking up the only job they had. I'm not even mad about Charlize Theron not running sideways because she panicked and wasn't thinking. I'm mad about a xenobiologist deciding that it's a good idea to try and make friends with an alien snake, or any snake for that matter. I'm mad about a cartographer who promptly forgets how to read maps. I'm mad about a guy who volunteered to go meet alien life forms freaking out when he meets said alien lifeforms.
artiswar 10.21.18	but sitar all those decisions make the characters more believable and grounded because people are fucking duuuumb
Source 10.21.18	I like the Prometheus hate train we've got going here. Let's keep it going!
artiswar 10.21.18	yass, let the hate flow through you
artiswar 10.21.18	I can feel your anger it makes you stronger, gives you focus!
Egarran 10.22.18	"Instead of an old man playing Peter Weyland let's use Guy Pearce and cover him in a lot of makeup." "Another great idea boss!" This hate train could potentially never stop. It's only when you realize that Prometheus' faults are as numerous as grains of sand on a beach, that you think eh, better focus on some other stuff. And then they made Covenant.
guitarded_chuck 10.22.18	ngl i think alien 1 is one of the more overrated flicks all time
Egarran 10.22.18	Yeh peeps be saying it's a 10 when it's only like 9.6.
SitarHero 10.22.18	"Instead of an old man playing Peter Weyland let's use Guy Pearce and cover him in a lot of makeup." Ha! They could've just used Lance Henriksen. The guy already looks like the crypt keeper.
SitarHero 10.22.18	"i think alien 1 is one of the more overrated flicks all time" Probably because it's pretty much endlessly imitated. The first time I saw Aeroplane I too was underwhelmed because I'd heard every joke already, from other sources who were imitating Aeroplane.
bloc 10.22.18	Guy Pierce is like one of the hottest male actors ever so it's ok by me!
Egarran 10.22.18	Memento is still the best film for both Nolan and Pearce.
guitarded_chuck 10.22.18	dunkirk but its v good
bloc 10.22.18	Iron Man 3 bro
theNateman 10.22.18	Am I the only one here that actually enjoyed Prometheus and Covenant? They don't touch the original two, but I found them infinitely enjoyable.
Egarran 10.22.18	Trolls everywhere.
Deathconscious 10.22.18	nah, i was just saying earlier that i like them. should have included a trigger warning.
bloc 10.22.18	Aye, didn't know they were both hated so much, especially Prom lol
theNateman 10.22.18	Cool. People take their corny sci fi to seriously.
JoeTex 10.22.18	Tom Skerritt ftw
Egarran 10.22.18	We take it 'seriously' because Alien was such a good movie. Like when you got a new dad, you couldn't help compare him to your real dad and you felt a hate consume your soul because of what could have been.
DarkSideOfLucca 10.22.18	"Cool. People take their corny sci fi to seriously." Ah, one of those people who gets mad when people actually have expectations for their movies and express their rightful grievances for those godawful scripts. Aha sorry man but Covenant sucked.
theNateman 10.23.18	@lucca, but lifes too short to get angry about trivial things like movies, for me anyway. Although I can totally see why people would hate Prometheus and Covenant, so that's a fair POV
Egarran 10.23.18	TIL criticizing a movie = anger.
StrikeOfTheBeast 10.23.18	@the Nateman Perhaps bad movies bring out Lucca's dark side? ;)
JoeTex 10.23.18	Prom was ok, didn't like Cov
Sharenge 10.23.18	Alien by a long shot
Rik VII 10.23.18	Prometheus was crap [98765] "but lifes too short to get angry about trivial things like movies, for me anyway." If you put it that way you might as well delete all your 1.0s and 1.5s
Deathconscious 10.23.18	^ that makes no sense.
Rik VII 10.23.18	Of course it makes sense. At least as long as "getting angry" equals criticising it the way it happens on here (which is what he referred to). I'd agree that there are better things to do to be openly offended by a movie, of course. But that's not what happened here - people just stated that they found Prometheus was bad which is the equivalent to giving it a low rating. But life is obviously not too short to give bad ratings, so yeah.
Egarran 10.23.18	Nateman did say it was only his foible, so we can all go back to feeling good about hating Prometheus
beefshoes 10.23.18	alien isolation
Deathconscious 10.23.18	He was responding to lucca saying he was mad, he never implied criticizing something = being mad.
Sharenge 10.23.18	Alien Isolation was the best installment in the franchise since the original film
theNateman 10.23.18	Alien Isolation was the best installment in the franchise since the original film [2] hard.
DungeonBoy 10.23.18	[3] when that xeno first crawls out of the vent, gmtfo
bloc 10.23.18	"foible" What a funny sounding word. Never seen it before.
Egarran 10.24.18	"he never implied criticizing something = being mad." "lifes too short to get angry about trivial things like movies" Which is clearly wrong! ARRRGH EG SMASH
Morningrise767 10.24.18	Alien. Can't beat the original. Aliens is still a great sequel though.
bloc 10.24.18	foible
Egarran 10.25.18	How about that weird self destruct mechanism on Nostromo though. That has always puzzled me. Not only the series of tubes going up and down, but also that it makes a super nova. It all seems slightly impractical. Good cinema though. You rarely go wrong with huge explosions.