XcKyle93: The Black Dahlia Murder's Best Albums

SIMBOLIC 03.21.13	Neck XD XD But really 2,5,1,3,4
intotheshit 03.21.13	Lol
XcKyle93 03.21.13	Haha, looks like we only agree on Nocturnal!
tempest-- 03.21.13	3 is their worst what how is it better than Miasma and Ritual those two rule
XcKyle93 03.21.13	Honestly 3 and 4 were a toss-up for me. I am listening to Miasma right now, and am thoroughly enjoying it. I think I like Deflorate better because, like I said, Miasma just felt like an inferior version of Nocturnal, whereas Deflorate was actually something different.
tempest-- 03.21.13	nah they're fun
XcKyle93 03.21.13	Cool, thanks for the meaningful contribution. ^directed towards Snoxall
XingKing 03.21.13	2 > 5 > 3 > 4 > 1 I absofuckinglutely hate Unhallowed but love all of their other releases
XcKyle93 03.21.13	Haha why do you hate Unhallowed so much? I wasn't impressed the first time I heard it, unlike Nocturnal, but it eventually grew on me over time. I think it was after I listened to it like 3 times a row while I was stuck on the interstate that I realized it was my favorite.
XcKyle93 03.21.13	It's fine that you don't like them, I have friends who also can't stand them. Why is it that you think that they're so terrible though? My friends can't stand the combination of Trevor's vocals with the constant blast beat, but what is it for you?
MMX 03.21.13	2 > 5 don't really care about the rest
XingKing 03.21.13	I hate Unhallowed because it is straight up generic metalcore garbage. They kept the metalcore riffs all the way into Unhallowed as well, but they were trying to become more melodeath with each release so it didn't bother me.
XcKyle93 03.21.13	I mean, I honestly don't see how it's metal-core. I suppose it sounds more core than if you were to compare Unhallowed to The Absence's first release, but that's because The Absence sounds more like a European band than an American one. If it's so generic, could you point me to albums (or at least one album) that sounds just like Unhallowed?
XcKyle93 03.21.13	And Michael: unfortunately, I must agree with you to an extent about the live performance. I've seen them twice. The first time, they were headliners, so the place was FULL of energy. I wouldn't call it lackluster at all, but their music did not transfer well to a live setting. They played fine I guess, just too much drums and screaming. The second time I saw them, they were the openers. They mainly played stuff off of Ritual, slower songs at that. The audience was not into them at all, and you couldn't make out the guitars at all except during solos.
XingKing 03.21.13	The style of riffing on their first three albums is akin to the metalcore bands of the early 2000's who were obsessed with ripping off At the Gates/In Flames/Dark Tranquility, not to be confused with the brand of metalcore that is more along the lines of hardcore. Each album reduced the core elements until Deflorate pretty much did away with them entirely.
ILJ 03.21.13	2>>>> still haven't gotten around to listening to Unhallowed
mryrtmrnfoxxxy 03.21.13	where is parkway drives discog
Necrotica 03.21.13	Miasma's actually my favorite; I always thought it was really underrated, especially the title track
tempest-- 03.21.13	Agreed Necrotica, but A Vulgar Picture > all
XcKyle93 03.21.13	Yeah I just listened to it again, Miasma is pretty damn good. Once again, 3-4 is a bit of a toss-up. And I've only heard one song by Parkway Drive, it was pretty meh. XingKing - I need explicit examples. People always say that type of shit, but can never back it up. And it's not just ATG influence: it's primarily SOTS. They have 3 other albums and an EP, you know. Plus, people always say that Unhallowed it an ATG rip-off, but I have a feeling those people only half-listened to Unhallowed once and judged it through what other people said about it rather than actually listen to it for themselves. Unhallowed sounds quite different from SOTS. For one, SOTS I don't think has any blast beats, which Unhallowed has plenty of. Two, the type of melodic black metal/melo-death tremolo picking that is present on Unhallowed does not exist on SOTS. At the Gates was purely a death metal band, with little to no black metal influence (and yes, I'm familiar with Grotesque).
Dolving999 03.21.13	For me Nocturnal is their best, even if it kinda breaks down in the second half.
SpiritCrusher2 03.21.13	Statutory Ape >
InFiction 03.21.13	Mine would be Nocturnal, Unhallowed, Miasma, Ritual and Deflorate. Even though I think Deflorate is their worst, I Will Return and Necropolis are two of their best songs.
MO 03.21.13	yea 1 and 4 are their best, then nocturnal
CrimsonLies 03.21.13	Only listened to 2 and 5, quite fun stuff
Winrar 03.21.13	"Then I saw them live and they were the most lacklustre performance I've ever had the displeasure of seeing live." BINGO
ManintheBox 03.21.13	5,2,1,3,4
XingKing 03.21.13	"At the Gates was purely a death metal band" That is extremely false seeing as how they are the pioneers of melodeath. All of AtGs' albums have loads of tremolo riffs too for that matter, even some blast beats here and there, though that is irrelevant. You do realize that At the Gates has 4 albums right? Riffs like the intro to Deathmask Divine and the verse to Statutory Ape are core riffs. You can typically identify them by the way they use the same melody with alternating root notes.
XcKyle93 03.21.13	"That is extremely false seeing as how they are the pioneers of melodeath." I'm just... not gonna respond to that lol. You contradicted yourself... "You can typically identify them by the way they use the same melody with alternating root notes. " At the Gates does that too... are they a core band? Take a look at the verses to "Blinded by Fear", that's exactly what you describe. It's fine that you don't like the album, but at least give me an actual reason instead of rehashing all of the false bullshit that's been spouted for years by narrow minded trolls who are afraid of change!
intotheshit 03.21.13	XcKyle, you're done. He point was perfect. TBDM have core elements throughout their music. It's plain as day.
J0ckstrapsFTW 03.21.13	Ya they certaintly have core elements
ffs 03.21.13	this band is cool & fun
XingKing 03.22.13	Are you just picking random shit I say to try and pick apart my argument? Slaughter of the Soul almost single handedly created the style of metalcore that bands like TBDM, As I Lay Dying, All That Remains, Darkest Hour, etc.. play. I'm not arguing that. I am arguing that Black Dahlia WERE a core band for their first album and they retained core elements on Miasma and Nocturnal, but those albums had a shift more towards melodeath, making them less shitty than Unhallowed. So you can call me a troll all you want, but the fact of the matter is that I am correct and you aren't doing a single thing to tell me otherwise besides tremolo riffs and blast beats, which melodeath bands use as well..
Funeralopolis 03.22.13	band sucks
auberginedreams 03.22.13	1 is 1, agreed. catchiest melodeath ever.
auberginedreams 03.22.13	i consider unhallowed a melodic death metal album, but it does have some obvious core elements compared to their later albums. not enough for me to consider it a straight up metalcore album though.
XcKyle93 03.22.13	Well, XingKing, considering that the blast beats are tremolo picking are an integral part of TBDM's sound, I'd say it matters. I won't argue about it anymore because it really is pointless, but you have yet to prove their metalcore sound to me. They don't have breakdowns and whiny vocals like ATR and ASILD, and they don't have the crossover hardcore/thrash influence that Darkest Hour has. I asked for you to provide an explicit example of an album that sounds like the (supposedly) generic Unhallowed, but you never gave me one. Also, I wasn't just picking random points from your argument lol. I was addressing most of them pretty explicitly.
ViralOblivion 03.22.13	Anytime anyone ranks any band snoxall comes in and acts like a complete dick