Ignimbrite: Kroner's Guide To Post-metal

Ignimbrite 01.26.13	only 3 missed artworks. YES. I went for a blend of better-known and more obscure bands here. the selections are what I consider to be each band's best album. for the most part, I avoided things like Amia Venera Landscape, Devil Sold His Soul, If These Trees Could Talk, and Eryn Non Dae that could be considered post-metal but are really more another genre, although there are exceptions here, notably 41, 43, 48, and 92.
Ignimbrite 01.26.13	aaand I edited it and now there are more missed artworks.
Relinquished 01.26.13	wouldn't have added anything that strayed, derivative, relatable, or you think had any semblance to post-metal when it's actually different but you did and it's not bad so kudos. I taught you well.
Relinquished 01.26.13	and thanks for missing the E from my name you better pray I don't find you in the near future because know that I'll put you in my most complex lock that you'll pass out so quick you won't have time to think.
evilford 01.26.13	Nice list, gotta check a few of these. 58 is best album ever
Ignimbrite 01.26.13	damn it... I keep thinking, "oh his name is not like the Omega Massif song" but it actually is like the OM song but without the umlaut.
ILJ 01.26.13	This shit better get featured dammit
FigNewtns 01.26.13	surprised to see 1 on here gd list for the most part
cb123 01.26.13	very nice list
JohnnyoftheWell 01.26.13	Got into Reka's latest album recently, are their others as good?
JohnnyoftheWell 01.26.13	And yeah, this needs a feature
Ignimbrite 01.26.13	the descriptions would have been longer but jesus this is 100 albums and i have things to do like homework and getting shitfaced and if it helps at all, I'm beginning to see the merit of your complaints about Huldra
Ignimbrite 01.26.13	"Got into Reka's latest album recently, are their others as good?" I'd argue that I and II are better albums. They're far more dynamic than III, which, while being a good album, got a bit samey by the end.
JohnnyoftheWell 01.26.13	I meant Renaissance, not III, but I'll check I and II at some point
Ignimbrite 01.26.13	Renaissance is III with one less song.
KILL 01.26.13	so post
JohnnyoftheWell 01.26.13	Renaissance is III with one less song. Ah, ok...how come they rereleased it then? Anyway, I dug Deconvenue pretty hard, so I'll check I sometime
Ignimbrite 01.26.13	I think it was for a vinyl run. Also, Renaissance is remastered.
KILL 01.26.13	renaissance are a great band agreed a trip to the fair but nobody was there :O
apert 01.26.13	what's entry level post-metal, stuff like Isis and Neurosis?
Relinquished 01.26.13	neurosis shouldn't be entry level considering how weak most post-metal is compared to their sound
RogueNine 01.26.13	Excellent work, man. I'm just getting into this genre and some of this stuff sounds right up my alley.
Ignimbrite 01.26.13	Isis is relatively entry level,and one could argue that some CoL is as well. i agree with Wolfe, though: Neurosis is definitely not entry level.
RogueNine 01.26.13	Yup, I've been through Isis and now working on some material in this list.
MO 01.26.13	21 yeeeeep
wacknizzle 01.26.13	Awesome list. I'm so glad you put Black Sheep Wall's first album on here, that shit slays.
geasoftime 01.26.13	This needs to be featured. It's the most comprehensive post-metal list that I've seen on this website. Ignimbrite, thank you. This is a gift that sputnik shouldn't look over.
pjquinones747 01.26.13	My brother-in-law's band is about to play a show with 37. Stoked as fuck to see it.
Yazz_Flute 01.26.13	Radare rule.
NUCFLASH 01.27.13	very good list
botb 01.27.13	awesome list, definitely going to do some researching of albums on this. missing some of my personal favorites though.
Ignimbrite 01.27.13	which ones?
Asdfp277 01.27.13	Is Irepress post-metal?
eternium 01.27.13	A large number of these aren't even worth talking about.
Ignimbrite 01.27.13	Thank you for your input.
Asdfp277 01.27.13	I liked that Mare EP a lot.
FearThyEvil 01.27.13	Favorited this page. Great list!
Relinquished 01.27.13	"Is Irepress post-metal?" not at all
Asdfp277 01.27.13	What are they? Anyway, people: check out Irepress.
Rev 01.27.13	bookmarked I need all of these
Relinquished 01.27.13	Irepress isn't sludge so they're not post-metal, just a ecletic and weird hybrid of post-rock and metalcore
Ignimbrite 01.27.13	They're awesome, though, so everyone should check them out nonetheless.
DamnVanne 01.27.13	Going through a bunch of these that a) sound appealing and b) haven't heard before, and so far the count 5/6 great. Good recs m8
RiffOClock 01.27.13	lol
MrElmo 01.27.13	13 is an easy 4.5 in my book, damn those lyrics...
MrElmo 01.27.13	by the way list is good but the overuse of the word typical can make your list a bit comedic at times
evilford 01.27.13	Gratz on feature
MrElmo 01.27.13	yeah well deserved, some of these that I don't know look interesting so I'll keep it in a corner, cheers
SeaAnemone 01.27.13	does anyone really need nearly this much post-metal I always feel like lists this extensive are pointless because they have no regard for quality and just go for straight-up quantity
MrElmo 01.27.13	there is no limit in quantity if you're a post-metal fan (wich I'm not). but anyway in these lists people usually pick a few of the bands to check them out and see wich ones they like. Making a list like this ranked with quality could be very tiresome and long, also the fact that music has a part subjective quality to it would make it pointless to do a list based on only quality since it would only be in the eyes of the list-maker and not us the listeners who might be not enjoy the top 3 and then discard all the rest. uneless you have a way to objectively judge the quality of an artist I don't see a solution either to propose a diverse range of bands and see what we enjoy
SeaAnemone 01.27.13	I was just saying that I think a list of "after all of the post-metal I've heard, seeing that I've heard a ton and COULD make a list of 100 bands but choose not to, these are the best 30 that I think everyone should check out" is infinitely more useful than "hey I listen to a ton of post-metal, I recently heard my hundredth bands so here's a list of those bands with no check for quality, and I even put the genre tags that last.fm gives them as well" for obvious reasons
SeaAnemone 01.27.13	"Making a list like this ranked with quality could be very tiresome and long" lol so can making a list 100 entities long with descriptions
SeaAnemone 01.27.13	"us the listeners who might be not enjoy the top 3 and then discard all the rest" lol and wouldn't that be a plus?... then I'd be able to say "wow this guy can list 100 bands he found on rateyourmusic's chart but can't distinguish quality of the bands based on these first 3 entries, better not waste my time going through random bands throughout here that I could just as easily find elsewhere"
MrElmo 01.27.13	K I get your point, still for knowing if the bands are worth checking it's always possible to click on them and see the userbase ratings. I think our dear Kroner could have made a small top 20 (if not 30) of his favourites and the keep the others on the same list as "hey these are good too"; especially since this is a "Guide to post-metal", the list doesn't guide the listener into anything. still I do like this list for showing new stuff
MrElmo 01.27.13	"but can't distinguish quality of the bands based on these first 3 entries" The term "quality" is gratting
SeaAnemone 01.27.13	dude is english not your first language? your spelling and syntx is pretty poor "the list doesn't guide the listener into anything" yeah this is basically what I'm saying you kinda said it for me "The term "quality" is gratting" I dunno I always thought people were on sputnik and made lists like this to, you know, discover 'good' music as opposed to just... spout huge lists of random music sorry if me suggesting that music can be judged a semblance of objectivity makes you uncomfortable
SeaAnemone 01.27.13	"it's always possible to click on them and see the userbase ratings." lol missed this so what you're basically saying is that the collective opinion of sputnik music is a much better and fairer arbiter of quality than, say, an individual with expertise in a certain genre?
MrElmo 01.27.13	No I'm french sorry ^^. I doesn't make me totally uncomfortable, for me music has aspects of both objectivity and subjectivity but going as far as to say it can be judged by quality like a bed or something artisanal is too much for me, saying that some music is good/very good/not good works though. I'm on sputnik to discover music that has potential to be good but like everybody, I have been sometimes dissapointed by certain albums/bands that are held as phenomenal.
Tyrael 01.27.13	'I always feel like lists this extensive are pointless because they have no regard for quality and just go for straight-up quantity' you used to make lists like these filled with shitty post hardcore so bitch please
SeaAnemone 01.27.13	"you used to make lists like these filled with shitty post hardcore so bitch please" absolutely not if I made a long list like this it was designated into different styles and eras of post-hardcore and I made sure to further designate which were essentials and which were superfluous... plus, though still a little over-long that list (same list, posted twice basically... didn't make them over and over) was like 60 entries I believe, not 100 shut up please
SeaAnemone 01.27.13	"No I'm french sorry ^^. I doesn't make me totally uncomfortable, for me music has aspects of both objectivity and subjectivity but going as far as to say it can be judged by quality like a bed or something artisanal is too much for me, saying that some music is good/very good/not good works though. I'm on sputnik to discover music that has potential to be good but like everybody, I have been sometimes dissapointed by certain albums/bands that are held as phenomenal." ha no need to apologize was merely wondering and fair points I didn't mean to go as far as to make it sound that way (the artisanal part)
MrElmo 01.27.13	"so what you're basically saying is that the collective opinion of sputnik music is a much better and fairer arbiter of quality than, say, an individual with expertise in a certain genre?" No I'me saying that a collective opinion can be an indicator to how much you will enjoy something but in no means is an absolute truth. An individual with expertise in a certain genre can be more interesting to follow but him too will make mistakes or won't enjoy what you will, he is also an indicator contributing for your quest in finding music that you will enjoy but in the end it is your opinion that matters for you, it is not this "experts" right or goal to tell you what you must like
SeaAnemone 01.27.13	"it is not this "experts" right or goal to tell you what you must like" never got close to claiming this I was only trying to imply that the opinion of someone who knows a lot that you've found you can align with taste-wise is reliable whereas the collective opinion is less so (thought they can both be reliable on some level maybe) and you suggested the opposite earlier
MrElmo 01.27.13	anyway I've got a film to watch so I'll be on my way, see ya and nice talking
MrElmo 01.27.13	"you suggested the opposite earlier" Didn't want to suggest that then, I said it was a possibility to consult the opinion of the userbase, thus having a small idea as to how good that band/album can be. didn't mean to imply it was better than an expert or the lone listeners that we are.
kris. 01.27.13	thank you for having 88 on here so good
YankeeDudel 01.27.13	Dont think I need anymore post-metal, but good job on the list meng.
Ignimbrite 01.27.13	"does anyone really need nearly this much post-metal I always feel like lists this extensive are pointless because they have no regard for quality and just go for straight-up quantity " Most everything on here is at least a 3.5 in my book, so I can promise you that this isn't a vanity project.
RiffOClock 01.27.13	"Most everything on here is at least a 3.5 in my book" thats saying an awful lot WHOA
RiffOClock 01.27.13	sea typing true never thought id say that
Ignimbrite 01.27.13	...except that it kind of does in that it negates his point so yeah.
RiffOClock 01.27.13	it really, really doesnt
alachlahol 01.27.13	when most of your 3.5s would equate to a 2 or lower for anyone who has standards its not saying much
RiffOClock 01.27.13	"typical post-metal, awesome shit 4.5/5" "oh fuck this is the best isis ripoff band ive heard this week, aoty so far" "new cult of luna fuckin RULEZ"
Ignimbrite 01.27.13	I'm not going to argue with a professional troll or with one of the shittiest users in an already shitty userbase, so I think I'll end this here.
RiffOClock 01.27.13	so i didnt add " The Matador (AU) Descent into the Maelstrom typical but awesome" to the database SUE ME
alachlahol 01.27.13	its always a wise decision to avoid arguing against the truth
SeaAnemone 01.27.13	damn guess I'm right
Ignimbrite 01.27.13	yeah I like taking riff's word on things as well
xenocide. 01.27.13	awesome list
sideburndude 01.28.13	I can now metal to the post thanks
Conorman11 01.28.13	Yeah 3.5ing all on this list would involve 3.5ing Isis and Pelican. Wrong.
Ignimbrite 01.28.13	"at least"
Conorman11 01.28.13	I am les noob. Don't know how the hell I missed that. I actually prefer Pelicans album from 2009 over Australasia.
ProfessorVeerappan 01.28.13	a jam packed list with the most intense post rock/metal damn this list. massive packages received with amount of music displayed " 26 is mad
Emim 01.29.13	"does anyone really need nearly this much post-metal I always feel like lists this extensive are pointless because they have no regard for quality and just go for straight-up quantity " k, mr emo bible
DeadToPain 01.29.13	Breach is amazing. That is all. Carry on.
SeaAnemone 01.29.13	"k, mr emo bible"... exactly, I divided that up based on eras and types and quality and it was still much smaller than this and emo is a much larger umbrella so it didn't end up being one giant hodgepodge of "look at these albums I found rated highly on rateyourmusic" jesus christ it's like you use the same rationale for your arguments as omnipanzer
DominionMM1 01.29.13	"emo is a much larger umbrella" i don't know about that
Apollo 01.29.13	This is the best list I have ever seen. I have a lot of these already but I'm going to bookmark this and get everything else. Great job here Mr. Kroner.
SeaAnemone 01.29.13	"i don't know about that" no no it definitely is not larger than post-metal? like you've gotta be kidding me
DominionMM1 01.29.13	like no
YankeeDudel 01.29.13	emo is not a larger umbrella than anything
Ignimbrite 01.29.13	"no no it definitely is not larger than post-metal? like you've gotta be kidding me" I'm actually gonna have to agree with Sea on this.
Scoot 01.29.13	sweet list kroner i'll check some of these out good call on hands, the helix is such a fine song
SeaAnemone 01.29.13	lol seriously guys? ignimbrite rattled off 100 albums of post-metal that he highly recomends, and he still agrees that emo is a larger genre like why am I even arguing this plz try coming up with some legit rationale and I'll consider it and dismiss it for ya ; )
RiffOClock 01.29.13	post-metal invented emo lets see how u handle THAT
SeaAnemone 01.29.13	damn andcas has nothing on your logic abilities riff
Trebor. 01.29.13	I got hundreds of emo albums guys
Emim 01.29.13	"like why am I even arguing this" because you crave that validation that only the internet can provide. my emo bible comment was mostly pointed towards this part of your comment "does anyone really need nearly this much post-metal" i didn't think i needed to point that out. apparently i did.
Emim 01.29.13	"I got hundreds of emo albums guys" got binders full o emo albums
SeaAnemone 01.29.13	u took an offhand part of my comment out of context to ignore the point i made congrats here's a sticker
Emim 01.29.13	how can you take something out of context when quoting the whole thing?
Ignimbrite 01.29.13	shhhhhhhhhh
SeaAnemone 01.29.13	bc you didn't quote the whole thing
minty901 01.29.13	awake in sleep have a good EP
ProfessorVeerappan 01.29.13	post metal is Always good gives much better picture to the Ahead part of life.
Asdfp277 01.30.13	^no.
SeaAnemone 01.30.13	"how can you take something out of context when quoting the whole thing?" this was the whole thing "does anyone really need nearly this much post-metal I always feel like lists this extensive are pointless because they have no regard for quality and just go for straight-up quantity"
Relinquished 01.30.13	I don't need this much because I even I know that it's not all good it's pretty much dead because no one is trying to make something as good as early post-metal and it's bland "sludge" riffs and boring post-rock bits thrown in for the hell of it. thank goodness Cult of Luna is still around.
Relinquished 01.30.13	haha it's funny that you still don't get it
YankeeDudel 01.30.13	Like any subgenre after a couple years it starts becoming bland. It had its run.
Ignimbrite 01.30.13	"no one is trying to make something as good as early post-metal" I'd argue that there are a few (other than CoL, of course). Amenra, for one thing.
SeaAnemone 01.30.13	still larger than emo though yankee lol?
YankeeDudel 01.30.13	Emo is derivative as fuck and has been for a while too so yea
SeaAnemone 01.30.13	"Emo is derivative as fuck and has been for a while too so yea" let's focus, are those indicators of size?
wabbit 01.30.13	that's a bold statement given that no one actually knows what emo means
SeaAnemone 01.30.13	sounds like something someone with a predominately alt/indie pie chart would say you commie
Ignimbrite 01.30.13	The question that actually needs to be asked here is whether the relative sizes of emo and post-metal matter. It doesn't. Everyone: shut the fuck up.
YankeeDudel 01.30.13	If you want to compare "umbrellas" then you need to specific yourself. Does emo include screamo, some post-hardcore, indie, alt, pop punk, etc? If you're including all that then yea emo is "bigger" but then youd have to include all sludge metal related subgenres too. Basically who gives a shit. Emo and Post-Metal are both on life support.
SeaAnemone 01.30.13	it didn't matter until I made that comment offhand in support of one of my statements then some dumbheads came out of he woodwork calling me out for [i]that[/i] of all things now they should all know how wrong they are it's simple really
SeaAnemone 01.30.13	oh damn, I should've known this was just gonna come down to you not knowing what emo was lol ok convo over
SeaAnemone 01.30.13	and since when is sludge a subgenre of post-metal who the fuck is this guy it's my life's work to expose how wrongly people regard subgenres and you're only making my job harder
YankeeDudel 01.30.13	post metal is a subgenre of sludge ya dingbat.
Apollo 01.30.13	Not sure what in the fuck is going on in this thread so I will stay out of this, aside to say that Eric is quite snippy tonight (nice to see you posting dude) and people should lay of Kroner. Dude made a good list.
SeaAnemone 01.30.13	ok well how does that make sense then to include all sludge under post-metal lol? SHOEGAZE IS INDIE SO SHOEGAZE IS A BIGGER GENRE THAN COUNTRY BECAUSE THERE'S MANY MANY INDIE RELEASES HURFLE DURFLE that's what you sound like
SeaAnemone 01.30.13	oh I have nothing against Kroner : ) I (well, was) just bored in my Free Speech class hence my rampant posting here at the moment haha and thanks : )
Relinquished 01.30.13	"Emo and Post-Metal are both on life support." don't worry guys if I ever decide to get off my lazy ass and start a band, I'll make it shine again
Ignimbrite 01.30.13	please start a band, i will give you a poorly-thought out hyperbolic review
YankeeDudel 01.30.13	Ha I never said that. I said if you're going to compare the "size" of emo to post metal you have to be specific what emo includes. When I think of emo I think of Sunny Day Real Estate, Cap'n Jazz, Mineral, and American Football. You know basic emo or whatever the hell. If you're just comparing that kind of emo to post-metal then post-metal is bigger. If you want to include everything emo related then yea emo is bigger because you're comparing a subgenre to a whole genre. Its like when I say punk rock I mean shit like the Ramones, the Clash, and shit like that not Repulsion. or Converge. Undeerrrrrrstandddd??
Ignimbrite 01.30.13	how about we start comparing dick sizes instead
SeaAnemone 01.30.13	I said emo umbrella sorry I thought common sense dictated that I meant the subgenre emo and all the smaller subgenres that fall under it you know, like an umbrella emo umbrella
SeaAnemone 01.30.13	and yo ignimbrite I'm sorry for causing a ruckus on your list would you maybe rec me like 2-3 things off this, preferably the more sludgy kind, please? : )
Ignimbrite 01.30.13	hey hey, no problem whatsoever. Higher comment counts are good for business. Adai - Felo De Se Omega Massif - Karpatia Amenra - Mass V
SeaAnemone 01.30.13	sweet thanks, I've heard good things about Amenra before I'll start there!
YankeeDudel 01.30.13	Alright then my bad. Glad we had this schwashbuckle
Asdfp277 01.30.13	how would emo + post-metal sound?
Ignimbrite 01.30.13	like Time to Burn maybe
Asdfp277 01.30.13	streams? me wants. are songs on yt?
wacknizzle 01.30.13	"how would emo + post-metal sound?" Check out The Black Heart Rebellion, they rock. Start with Monologue.
Asdfp277 01.30.13	:0 so it exists. gotta' check
Relinquished 01.30.13	if people only knew the difference between post-metal and atmospheric sludge because it exists
Asdfp277 01.30.13	You can explain it if you want to! Also, what is "emo"?
wacknizzle 01.30.13	"emo" is just emotionally frustrated rawr(!) with anxious guitar riffs and spazzy drums! The emotions of not being able to get laid or getting dumped(well virtually the same thing) are portrayed through the music then it's emo. Basically if you stop jerking it for a couple months you'll get really awesome at emo, gets you on that emotional man period and you become as emotionally fragile as a 9 year old girl and you can write that spazzy pissed stuff of that genre that is so hard to fit inside a neat little box like all that jizz you're painfully holding back inside your testicles.
Emim 01.30.13	"bc you didn't quote the whole thing" except for my first comment where i did exactly that
SeaAnemone 01.30.13	but like yeah then you critiqued a part of it and -- okay what's your problem with that comment? I already explained how this type of list critiqu-able and why it has nothing to do with my emo bible list I made a few years ago so like, what's ur issue sir?
kingsoby1 01.30.13	nice list. make sure to pm me some recs of new/upcoming stuff i should check out
Ignimbrite 01.30.13	Of course.
Emim 01.30.13	i stated my issue with it. i don't see what's unclear here. in any case i'm over my minor quibble. good list, ryan
YUJOS 03.02.13	Excellent list man! Transmission0 need more love!!
ForeignFilm 03.28.13	DIRGE!!!!!
zyndrex90 05.28.13	This list is amazing, I've already checked out about 10 bands and I've really liked Breach, Blindead, I Was Hungry For Hands and Terra Tenebrosa. Right now I'm listening to Obscure Sphinx and I'm really digging it. Thanks a lot for this recommendations!!
SputnikSweetheart 09.21.13	Naaaah man you're right about 7; it's overrated.
Relinquished 09.21.13	no one even talks about it now so not really
crankstrap 05.21.15	locktender.
CaimanJesus 01.16.16	I still need to buy like 70 of the albums on this list
Conmaniac 08.08.17	commenting to remember
CaimanJesus 08.08.17	yeye
sizeofanocean 06.19.18	Very great list. Knew some of the obvious bands, but still found a lot of unknown ones. Does anybody know some Post Metal bands with clean vocals? I only know stuff like Isis, Amenra, Palms and Transmission0
Relinquished 06.19.18	Callisto after their Noir record
sizeofanocean 09.09.18	Still getting a lot out of this list. Thank you so much man!
MotokoKusanagi 09.09.19	2 is so damn good, glad i stumbled across this today
sizeofanocean 10.24.19	Friendly reminder that this list still rules hard. My go-to post metal band archive basically
Demon of the Fall 10.24.19	Incredible list, loads of great stuff here and tons I still haven't heard. Nice bump. Gotten into that Blindead album recently, one of the genre's best I reckon. That Overmars release is one of the dullest things I've ever heard though, just saying.
Avagantamos 09.03.23	found so much cool stuff from this list back in high school