Funeralopolis
11.28.12 | writing an essay on breaking bad |
bakkermaarten007
11.28.12 | Only remember 5, which was pretty awesome as a metaphor for the whole series and the moral lesson. |
Cormano
11.28.12 | you do realize that not everything that happens has to be metaphor right? please don't ruin the perfect show by seeing shit that doesn't exist |
bakkermaarten007
11.28.12 | I do think they did 5 exactly for the sake of a metaphor. |
Satellite
11.28.12 | how do you not remember all of these? |
iSkane
11.28.12 | @Cormano: most of that shit was too weird to just randomly put in the show. I guess with the exception of the bear with it's eye. Things are meant to be interpreted openly. |
Cormano
11.28.12 | I believe the bear and it's eye actually have a meaning, walter keeps the eyeball because it reminds him of how he is somehow guilty for the plane accident. That's the thing, 5 could have a very deep meaning, or it could be just a guy getting crushed by an atm, I do agree the show is very well thought, but not everything is meant to be a metaphor, I don't see how a fucking pizza in the roof is supposed to have some deep meaning. |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
11.28.12 | Jesse's repeated shouting of bitch is actually a metaphor for the rejection of the need of humans to find meaning in life. A near absurdist phrase, "Bitch!" as uttered by Jesse Pinkman is easily one of the greatest philosophical musings in all of not only modern television, but in the history of television as a whole. |
bakkermaarten007
11.28.12 | "how do you not remember all of these?"
I watch a lot of shows and I drink while I watch. |
ViralOblivion
11.28.12 | You're forgetting everyone's clothing color |
ViralOblivion
11.28.12 | Like in the first season Walter wears green for money Hank wears orange for authority Jesse is seen with usually Red and Yellows in the first season but goes more toward black and grays toward the end and Walter wears a lot of dark blues |
Cormano
11.28.12 | goddamit people...you are doing it again |
ApplicationToHeaven
11.28.12 | what was the deal with the mexicans crawling on the ground? |
Cormano
11.28.12 | but AGuyIsWatchingYou actually speaks the truth |
Funeralopolis
11.28.12 | @applicationtoheaven: I also would like to know why the crawled on the ground, I was hoping someone would post an answer lol |
mikeg1992
11.28.12 | Ok so maybe not everything is strictly a metaphor, but directors choose what the camera shows us and what it doesn't. So if we're shown something, it's for a specific purpose even if it doesn't have a bigger meaning |
ViralOblivion
11.28.12 | Not everything is a metaphor but a lot is including clothing color, the bear and the eye, the ATM |
toxin.
11.28.12 | "you do realize that not everything that happens has to be metaphor right? please don't ruin the perfect show by seeing shit that doesn't exist"
fuck, you're probably one of those people who complained about finding symbolism and shit in English class, aren't you? IMO the best shows are the ones where you need to do analysis, because it shows the writers managed to write both a good surface-level story and deeper meanings. When it comes to shows I've analyzed, two prominent examples come up (both being animated): Cowboy Bebop and Avatar: The Last Airbender.
Cowboy Bebop is a self-evident look different ways of coping with the past, and their consequences. As for A:TLA, it's more spotty, but if you've seen the show, the episode Zuko Alone is probably one of the deepest episodes of television I've seen. There was an excellent /r/thelastairbender thread that explained the depth to that episode. |
mikeg1992
11.28.12 | I agree. Just responding to the people who hate hearing "OMG VINCE GILLIGAN IS REFERENCING THIS OBSCURE THING FROM SEASON 1" |
mikeg1992
11.28.12 | xtoxin knows what's up |
peaks40
11.28.12 | my friend keeps busting my balls to watch this show. i don't watch much t.v.
the Wire, The Sopranos, Mad Men are all the series i care about as far as drama goes |
Cormano
11.28.12 | Religious people in mexico do that kind of shit they are called "mandas" they are some sort of way to thank god or a saint, sometimes is not even a way to be thankful, they just do it to prove their faith or their love for god.
However in that specific episode I believe they are just showing their devotion to Heisenberg, as for them it has become this sort of image to worship, because the cartels usually bring them protection and jobs, so even they don't know him, Walter became like a legend for them, think of robin hood. You can also look up san juan valverde, he was also this criminal who apparently helped the poor, got killed and is now a saint worshipped by drugdealers and people who live in those communities. |
Cormano
11.28.12 | xtoxin no I've never complained about doing that, in fact I always enjoy it, but people tend to over analyze things leading to stupid debates and eventually changing everyone's perceptions about a show/book/movie, most of the times the author didn't mean anything, but like I said before breaking bad is an intelligent show and there are a lot of things to analyze...but a pizza in the roof? c'mon at most it could just be an inside joke between the writers |
Funeralopolis
11.28.12 | I noticed in an episode I just watched, that the dress they chose for Jesse's girlfriends funeral for her to wear, is very similiar to the dress Skyler wears later in the episode. |
SgtPepper
11.28.12 | @Funeral
I think that's suppose to be a connection that they're both people whose lives have been "blackened" by Walter White. If you notice, both Skyler and Jessie are blonde and blue-eyed. They're arguably the two closest characters to Walter on the show, and he often lies and manipulates them to his benefit. Basically Walter is a cancer among everyone around him. Everything and everyone he touches immediately gets sucked into his world of chaos.
By the way, would you mind sharing this essay with us when you're done? I'd be interested in reading it as a huge fan of Breaking Bad. |
Cormano
11.28.12 | "If you notice, both Skyler and Jessie are blonde and blue-eyed."
and to think artists have to deal with these kind of things all the time |
toxin.
11.28.12 | Cormano,
Cool, I get you. I haven't finished Breaking Bad (I just got stuck at the middle of Season 2 with no real desire to continue) so I can't comment on whether or not they're actual metaphors |
AGuyIsWatchingYou
11.28.12 | "(I just got stuck at the middle of Season 2 with no real desire to continue)"
I'm going to quote every Breaking Bad fan ever here, "It gets better as it goes along." |
Funeralopolis
11.28.12 | @Paperback: My essay isn't very exciting, I basically just have to say how breaking bad represents people's opinions of drugs and criminals. But if you want to read it I'll shoutbox it to you when I am done. |
toxin.
11.28.12 | Oh yeah, I know it gets better as it goes along. Everyone has told me that. It's more of a matter of actually getting over that hump and starting it---I'm sure I'll be hooked soon thereafter. |
SgtPepper
11.28.12 | "and to think artists have to deal with these kind of things all the time"
- that's not my own interpretation. I read an article where one of the writer's talked about that particular connection in an interview. |
SgtPepper
11.28.12 | @Funeral
Oh, I assumed you were going to talk about the symbolism and metaphors in the show. Good luck on your paper. |
demigod!
11.28.12 | i never really caught some of these metaphors, nice finds. I always found the show was more heavy with foreshadowing than metaphors.
I would also like to read that essay, Breaking Bad is one of my favourite shows |
