YankeeDudel
09.06.12 | so you like jazz and some prog I see. same 6 guys in all your lists |
Cghost
09.06.12 | yeah you know back when musicians used to actually release like an album or two a year because they weren't taking their sweet ass time writing something that turns out to be complete shit, you wind up with gluts of awesome material in short time frames. Hopefully that explains it for you |
omnipanzer
09.06.12 | ^^ she has a point |
omnipanzer
09.06.12 | Well when someone makes a dozen really bad lists I happen to agree with it.
What can I say? |
Atari
09.06.12 | Enjoy making 10 more lists that nobody will bother reading. |
Cghost
09.06.12 | I really wasn't anticipating anyone would read them lol. I'm glad people have been though. It's funny watching everyone get bent out of shape because I don't like old shitty rock. |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | Do you only listen to these artists/bands?
Dumb. |
Atari
09.06.12 | How old are you cghost? |
Cghost
09.06.12 | I already told you yesterday, 23
'Do you only listen to these artists/bands?
Dumb. '
No, they just released better material than everyone else in the 60's. Why is this so hard to grasp? |
YankeeDudel
09.06.12 | They're all great albums but you dont need a list for every year if you're only going to list the same 10 dudes. |
omnipanzer
09.06.12 | "No, they just released better material than everyone else in the 60's. Why is this so hard to grasp?"
Clearly some of us don't agree. |
Atari
09.06.12 | My bad didn't see you had responded to me. You know a lot of music from the 60's for only being 23. Maybe I'll check Frank Zappa out haven't heard him. |
omnipanzer
09.06.12 | @Atari85: Two listed above, Lumpy Gravy, Freak Out! and We're Only In It For The Money are all good
places to start imho. |
Cghost
09.06.12 | 'They're all great albums but you dont need a list for every year if you're only going to list the same 10 dudes.'
I actually did consider that about halfway through, thinking that I should have done 1960-1965 and 1966-1970 or something, and then done 20 for each, but then I was already halfway through and went to hell with it. Even if I did that, both lists would mostly be populated with the same stuff.
'Clearly some of us don't agree.'
Clearly some of you are wrong |
Cghost
09.06.12 | For Zappa recs, judging by your profile, you're gonna want to start with some of his more rock oriented stuff. Freak Out!, Apostrophe (*), Hot Rats (fusion but widely accesible), One Size Fits All, Sheik Yerbouti, Joe's Garage (this is a fusion album, but it's still pretty accessible) are good starting points. Might like We're Only In It For the Money as well. I'd stay away from the more bizarre shit like Lumpy Gravy, Uncle Meat, Weasels Ripped My Flesh, and the jazzier stuff until you can digest the above. |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | "No, they just released better material than everyone else in the 60's. Why is this so hard to grasp?"
That's not the point. There are a lot of albums you've left off of all of your lists. You're pretty narrow-minded.
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omnipanzer
09.06.12 | Well I never looked at it that way. I guess I should just delete my hundreds of 60's albums except for my jazz and King Crimson.
Is it just King Crimson or can I keep all of my prog because I'd really like to keep my Moody Blues... even though it doesn't pass your obviously high standards. |
Atari
09.06.12 | @panzer/host, alright I'll check him out. Jesus how many records did he make? |
omnipanzer
09.06.12 | Too many, there are plenty you'll never listen to. |
Cghost
09.06.12 | No, I'd be narrow minded if all I'd listened to was jazz. This is a false assumption on your part. Just because jazz was what floated to the top amongst all the shit I did listen to doesn't mean I'm narrow minded.
And yeah omni, considering what your favourite bands list looks like I'd say you should delete your 'hundreds' (lol uh huh) of '60's albums.
Atari, he made around 70 while he was alive. Lots of stuff was released posthumously, mostly live though, which brings the total to around 100 or 120 or something. |
Adabelle
09.06.12 | This guy argues like Rasp haha. I like your lists, continue making them pls, they're refreshing (: |
omnipanzer
09.06.12 | "This is a false assumption on your part. Just because jazz was what floated to the top amongst all the shit I did listen to doesn't mean I'm narrow minded."
you're right I was making assumptions when clearly the problem is your taste in music is shit. You have my sincerest of apologies sir. |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | "No, I'd be narrow minded if all I'd listened to was jazz. This is a false assumption on your part. Just because jazz was what floated to the top amongst all the shit I did listen to doesn't mean I'm narrow minded"
Ummm..... all of your lists are jazz and prog. Forgive me for making a correct assumption.
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Cghost
09.06.12 | 'Ummm..... all of your lists are jazz and prog. Forgive me for making a correct assumption.'
Did you just completely ignore my point or did you not understand it? I've listened. The stuff I've posted was the cream of the crop. Sorry the standard Rolling Stone fan favourites didn't cut it, the jazz is better.
'This guy argues like Rasp haha. I like your lists, continue making them pls, they're refreshing (:'
Who's Rasp? And thanks, I plan on doing 42 more, much to the chagrin (and my pleasure) of everyone here I'm sure |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | "Did you just completely ignore my point or did you not understand it? I've listened. The stuff I've posted was the cream of the crop. Sorry the standard Rolling Stone fan favourites didn't cut it, the jazz is bette"
Rolling Stone? Talk about an assumption. |
Atari
09.06.12 | "I plan on doing 42 more"
And the war begins. |
omnipanzer
09.06.12 | He's gonna fit right in. |
KILL
09.06.12 | wheres abbey chode? lz2? the band? |
omnipanzer
09.06.12 | didn't you read above KILL?
He doesn't like that "shit". |
Jethro42
09.06.12 | oh |
Cghost
09.06.12 | 'Rolling Stone? Talk about an assumption.'
Nobody here has recommended me anything I wouldn't find on one of their lists. And judging by the musical tastes I see in profiles, I have no reason to think otherwise. |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | "Nobody here has recommended me anything I wouldn't find on one of their lists. And judging by the musical tastes I see in profiles, I have no reason to think otherwise."
Yeah, because I have rated every Rolling Stone album in my profile. For an elitist, you sure are dumb. |
Cghost
09.06.12 | Actually, I wasn't talking about you. After your basic inability to understand the simple logical concept I presented earlier, I decided not to even bother looking at whatever it is you listen to. |
Cghost
09.06.12 | But by all means, feel free to recommend me something I've heard before just so I can tell you 'No, I like the jazz better' and you can continue to call me close minded. |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | "Actually, I wasn't talking about you. After your basic inability to understand the simple logical concept I presented earlier, I decided not to even bother looking at whatever it is you listen to."
Funny that I should make the assumption that you were. I mean, you just copy/pasted my comment right above that response. Please forgive me. |
omnipanzer
09.06.12 | misunderstanding a copy and pasted quote... that's so intotheshit. |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | Every time this guy posts he contradicts himself. |
Cghost
09.06.12 | Well I don't know why you'd make said assumptions considering you have nothing rated or listed in your profile. You're bad at this. |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | "Well I don't know why you'd make said assumptions considering you have nothing rated or listed in your profile. You're bad at this."
What? Do you even know what you're typing? |
Cghost
09.06.12 | 'For the love of God, nobody could give a shit less about the supposed "Top Ten" albums of the 60's, especially if you do it one list at a time, and 8 lists a day. Combine this shit into one list per day, or take your close-minded ass out of here'
See, I don't care, I wasn't doing this for anyone other than myself. So I'm going to continue, and have a good laugh watching everyone get bent completely out of shape over my opinions. |
Cghost
09.06.12 | 'What? Do you even know what you're typing?'
That depends on who you ask |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | "See, I don't care, I wasn't doing this for anyone other than myself. So I'm going to continue, and have a good laugh watching everyone get bent completely out of shape over my opinions"
That statement proves that you do care. Congratulations, more contradictions than a Mitt Romney speech. |
omnipanzer
09.06.12 | "See, I don't care, I wasn't doing this for anyone other than myself."
Then you should not have allowed comments or published it publicly on a site filled with opinionated assholes for that matter. |
Cghost
09.06.12 | 'That statement proves that you do care. Congratulations, more contradictions than a Mitt Romney speech.'
I think you don't understand the definition of proof or something.
'Then why can't you just sit in your room and talk to yourself about it?'
Why do you have to click on the links to my lists? internet's a big place man! There's room for all of us! |
Cghost
09.06.12 | 'Then you should not have allowed comments or published it publicly on a site filled with opinionated assholes for that matter.'
Yeah but see, if I don't allow comments then I don't get to laugh at everyone getting mad over me not putting the mamas and the papas in my list. Mind you, I didn't think that was going to happen, but now that its started I hope it doesn't stop. |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | "I think you don't understand the definition of proof or something."
I dunno. Telling someone you don't care kind of shows us you do care. If you didn't care, you wouldn't have a rebuttal for every single thing we say. |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | "Yeah but see, if I don't allow comments then I don't get to laugh at everyone getting mad over me not putting the mamas and the papas in my list."
Another stupid assumption.
"Mind you, I didn't think that was going to happen, but now that its started I hope it doesn't stop."
You looked at everyone's ratings and came to the conclusion that no one would agree with you. Well, at least that's what you said earlier, so you should have expected this.
No one's saying the list is horrible. We're all just saying you are very narrow-minded. If you believe that to be an assumption, you're an idiot. |
Cghost
09.06.12 | But I have to put effort into rebuttals to care |
omnipanzer
09.06.12 | "Yeah but see, if I don't allow comments then I don't get to laugh at everyone getting mad over me not putting the mamas and the papas in my list. "
So not just for you then... |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | Cghost is full of contradictions, omni. That's part of his game, though. Come on! Don't you realize
he's just that much smarter than us? |
omnipanzer
09.06.12 | "You ought to be nice to me, I am a mod in disguise and at the click of a button on my special interface, all your shitty opinions will dissapear, and all this time that you've spent laughing your giddy little ass off at us will have been a waste, and I will send your IP address out to the internet, and you will never make an account anywhere else ever again."
I once went to a club with a group of friends and a guy one of them met on Ever Quest came out with us. Dude walked up to a smoking hot chick and said "I'm a guild leader, you know what that means"... ever since then false posturing makes my anus pucker. |
Cghost
09.06.12 | 'You ought to be nice to me, I am a mod in disguise and at the click of a button on my special interface, all your shitty opinions will dissapear, and all this time that you've spent laughing your giddy little ass off at us will have been a waste, and I will send your IP address out to the internet, and you will never make an account anywhere else ever again. '
lol I can just imagine the tears streaming down your face.
'No one's saying the list is horrible. We're all just saying you are very narrow-minded. If you believe that to be an assumption, you're an idiot. '
See, okay I'm going to be serious here for a second because you don't get it. The basis for you calling me narrow minded is that I have mostly jazz in my top ten lists. MY top ten lists. My opinions. Get it? If I'm being narrow minded, this implies I'm dismissing other things without giving them a fair chance, i.e. not listening. This is a faulty implication, as I've said multiple times now, because I have, and I think the jazz is better. Calling me narrow minded over this list subscribes you to the assumption of aforementioned implication. There's no way around it. You can't say I'm close minded because in general I like jazz more than rock, it doesn't work that way. In your mind, maybe it does, but in reality, it does not. I thought you were just trolling before, but your increasingly serious responses here are telling me you're not. |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | That's not what I'm saying, either. God, you're dumb. I'm saying you're narrow-minded because you
basically have the same 6-8 artists in the every list, which either shows me you just got into those
types of music and you all of a sudden think you're a genius on the subject because you love Miles
Davis, or you refuse to broaden your horizons.
I'll go with the fomer. |
Atari
09.06.12 | Why are you guys even wasting the energy arguing with this guy? |
Cghost
09.06.12 | Oh, so I'm narrow minded because I list the same artists...? You ever stop and think they were making the best music coming out at that time? All the guys I've listed multiple times, Dolphy, Coltrane, Davis, Mobley, Brubeck, Hubbard, are all some of my favourite jazz musicians. Naturally they're going to come up a lot, especially given the breadth of material they released in said time. I don't think I'm a genius on anything, I'm always looking for new stuff. These guys, at this point in time, just happen to dominate most of my favourite music from the 60's. This has nothing to do with being closeminded. |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | "Oh, so I'm narrow minded because I list the same artists...? You ever stop and think they were making the best music coming out at that time? All the guys I've listed multiple times, Dolphy, Coltrane, Davis, Mobley, Brubeck, Hubbard, are all some of my favourite jazz musicians. Naturally they're going to come up a lot, especially given the breadth of material they released in said time. I don't think I'm a genius on anything, I'm always looking for new stuff. These guys, at this point in time, just happen to dominate most of my favourite music from the 60's. This has nothing to do with being closeminded."
You apparently don't understand the definition of close-minded. |
Cghost
09.06.12 | Apparently I don't because I don't understand what I'm being close minded about. That would typically refer to me closing my mind off from something, no? I don't know what I'm closing my mind off to, maybe you should explain that to me? |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | "Apparently I don't because I don't understand what I'm being close minded about. That would typically refer to me closing my mind off from something, no? I don't know what I'm closing my mind off to, maybe you should explain that to me?"
Well, for one, telling everyone they're a rolling stones fan is pretty fucking dumb and close-minded. Secondly, listing the same 6-8 artists and not going outside of the walls you have built up around certain types of music.
Once again, for an elitist, you're pretty fucking dumb. |
evilford
09.06.12 | JohnXDoesn't alt? |
Ethics
09.06.12 | PLEASE FUCKING STOP FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS PURE |
Cghost
09.06.12 | lol the first thing was trolling. Like, blatant trolling. Apparently you didn't pick up on it, I think the other guy did.
I've listed more than 6-8 different artists man. I know you're trying to oversimplify it to make the point, but it's a pretty weak point. What do you want me to do? List ten different artists every list? That's not the point. The point is to post my favourites. If John Coltrane comes up 13 times in 10 lists, I guess that means he's one of my favourites, doesn't it? I don't get your argument. I need to have a bunch of different stuff in my *favourites* lists to not be considered close minded? I've listened to a lot of music, and these artists and albums are what floated to the top as my preferred listens. If that makes me close minded well then I guess I'll settle for that. |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | "lol the first thing was trolling. Like, blatant trolling. Apparently you didn't pick up on it, I think the other guy did. "
Umm what?
"I've listed more than 6-8 different artists man. I know you're trying to oversimplify it to make the point, but it's a pretty weak point. What do you want me to do? List ten different artists every list? That's not the point. The point is to post my favourites. If John Coltrane comes up 13 times in 10 lists, I guess that means he's one of my favourites, doesn't it? I don't get your argument. I need to have a bunch of different stuff in my *favourites* lists to not be considered close minded? I've listened to a lot of music, and these artists and albums are what floated to the top as my preferred listens. If that makes me close minded well then I guess I'll settle for that."
Dude, every single list has 6-8 of the same artists, as well as a few "extra" sprinkled in. Lern2reed
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Cghost
09.06.12 | You're not addressing my point as to how that makes me closeminded given that they were my favourites of everything I've listened to. Unless you just don't believe I've listened to a bunch of shit. In which case, good for you, this discussion will have to be over. |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | "You're not addressing my point as to how that makes me closeminded given that they were my favourites of everything I've listened to. "
Ummm.... yeah, I did. Again, lern2reed. |
Motiv3
09.06.12 | Can you stop dominating the latest lists please? kkthx |
Cghost
09.06.12 | Okay, so not having a bunch of different artists on every list makes me closeminded regardless of what I've listened to, tried to like, like but not as much as the stuff I posted, and don't like. I don't even want to know what it takes to be openminded. |
Cghost
09.06.12 | what's that? post more lists? |
Cghost
09.06.12 | Really? Considering I've seen a bunch of lists a lot more 'obvious' than the ones I've been making, I don't really know how to take your statement |
porch
09.06.12 | DIFFERENT STUFF OUTSIDE THE ORDINARY
1) Buckethead 214 plays
2) Dark Tranquillity 132 plays
3) Napalm Death 99 plays
4) System of a Down 98 plays
5) Death 86 plays
6) Aborted 83 plays
7) Mudvayne 80 plays
8) Descendents 78 plays
9) Cannibal Corpse 76 plays
10) Anthrax 72 plays |
intotheshit
09.06.12 | lol porch |
Cghost
09.06.12 | lol |
Shuyin
09.06.12 | shut up and stop making lists |
MO
09.06.12 | wow what a thread |
