Mewcopa0
08.29.12 | meh |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | wtf happened to the last thread? Also, 5 is the 2nd best gen because Emerald is amazing. |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | Johto was an expansion pack |
ViralOblivion
08.29.12 | No idea I hit submit and it was just blank haha it's my iPad I think |
OysterizerInsomniac
08.29.12 | 25143 for me but I liked all the games. Black and White 2 are going to be good. |
Crymsonblaze
08.29.12 | Switch 4 and 5 and I say this is completely spot on.
Adore the first two gens, don't really like III or IV, but quite enjoyed Gen V. |
ViralOblivion
08.29.12 | Johto was not an expansion pack it had some of the best Pokemon. It had too many baby Pokemon I agree but sinnoh was more of an expansion to me |
Chortles
08.29.12 | i would fight to say 2nd gen was better than 1st gen. it was a lot more fun for me as a wee child anyway |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | "i would fight to say 2nd gen was better than 1st gen. it was a lot more fun for me as a wee child anyway"
agreed |
Crymsonblaze
08.29.12 | I think Gen I and II are almost equally good, but Pokemon White was the first time in years I've been satisfied by the series. Even counting some of the dumb ones like the garbage bag and ice cream cones. |
barcafan21
08.29.12 | there's no way hoenn is last. emerald is the best one ever |
barcafan21
08.29.12 | there's no way hoenn is last. emerald is the best one ever |
ViralOblivion
08.29.12 | Idk something about first gen that's just amazing to me. Bulbasaur was my first starter and gengar was my first Pokemon card so 1st will always be special to me |
Captain North
08.29.12 | Nah, Sinnoh is far and away the worst Pokemon generation ever. It had a handful of decent Pokemon, the rest of it was shit. Bad storyline, shit new evolutions of old awesome Pokemon, crappy choice of Pokemon in region etc |
barcafan21
08.29.12 | the first generation is the only one that has three starter pokemon i like |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | "Nah, Sinnoh is far and away the worst Pokemon generation ever."
Not to mention it was slow as fuck. But seriously, guys, Gen 4 had the best addition in movesets and abilities. Without it, you'd be missing a lot of your favorite moves. |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | Fuck off, Swampert ruled. |
MMX
08.29.12 | Silver & Gold were the best games for the simple fact that you had the new region Johto and then you could back to Kanto |
Captain North
08.29.12 | Yeah, Johto was the best. Totodile is my fave starter too. Although, yeah, I'd forgotten about the special split in gen 4. For some reason I keep thinking it was earlier, can't believe it took them so long to figure that one out |
MMX
08.29.12 | Fuck Yeah Totodile |
Funeralopolis
08.29.12 | agreed generation 3 was the worst |
ViralOblivion
08.29.12 | yeah gen 3 starters were so lame love samurott and gen 4 had the best normal flying Pokemon out f any gen a bird that can learn closes combat? It's fucking awesome. And giratina is one of my favorite legendaries I just love the idea of a ghost dragon |
BaseballJames
08.29.12 | Red and Blue were the best games, followed by Ruby and Sapphire.
I gave up after realizing how horrible the evolutions for some of the original 151 were in
Diamond/Pearl. |
ViralOblivion
08.29.12 | We need a pinsir evolution still |
BaseballJames
08.29.12 | I thought for the longest time that Heracross evolved from Pinsir |
ViralOblivion
08.29.12 | Hahaha if he ever does get a evolution he should be a steel/bug |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | Lame evolutions have existed forever, especially in the gen 1 (Muk and Grimer anyone?). Samurott is lame as fuck.
Swampert > Blastoise > Feraligatr > Empoleon > Samurott. I will admit that the water starters have been consistently sweet in general. |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | "Hahaha if he ever does get a evolution he should be a steel/bug"
Why, we already have Scizor and he's already a fucking beast. |
BaseballJames
08.29.12 | Dante from Clerks apparently voiced a few characters for the Black/White episodes...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xng9jv_pokemon-black-white-episode-34-gotta-catch-a-roggenrola_shortfilms |
PistolPete
08.29.12 | sinnoh was the worst, slowest battle system of any of the generations (every battle felt like it took triple as long), stupidest bad guys they were all retards, and the eventual battle frontier in platinum got boring fast |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | how was red and blue the best games
they are glitched bug fests |
MMX
08.29.12 | Sycther > Scizor |
Captain North
08.29.12 | Can we not evolve any more old Pokemon? They fucking ruined Rhydon who I loved. Tangela, lickitung, magneton, Aipom....they all got fucking HORRIFIC evolutions. And Ninjask, grimer/muk...well if you don't like them they were a shitty concept, but muk was no worse than grimer as an evo. Nah, Mr Mime and Jynx were the only truly terrible first gen designs |
Yazz_Flute
08.29.12 | 5 is 2 |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | But Tangrowth, and Magnezone are great pokemon |
ViralOblivion
08.29.12 | Samurott wrecks through the elite 4 tho that's why I love him I mean he's not as good as ferraligtr or blastoise but he's better than the other two starters in gen 5 |
PistolPete
08.29.12 | "how was red and blue the best games
they are glitched bug fests"
I've never understood why ppl like them for this reason, yeah gold/silver were basically expansion packs but at least they fixed those issues to create a smooth flowing consistently logical game |
Captain North
08.29.12 | Tangrowth is amazingly stupid design. Those hands. Wtf. It has vines why does it need badly drawn hands! Magnezone isn't as bad as some of the others, but still kinda silly looking. The only evos that worked for me were the eeveelutions, electivire, honchkrow (which I LOVE) and Weavile |
PistolPete
08.29.12 | Emboar helped a lot on that brutal final boss Ghetsis (probably the hardest champion they've made, hydreigon rapes) |
Captain North
08.29.12 | I hate how every fire starter is fighting now. Emboar didn't even learn fighting moves |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | But tangrowth is the best looking one besides Honchkrow |
Captain North
08.29.12 | Nah, Lance in the gold silver remakes is stupidly hard, thanks to three fucking Dragonites |
Captain North
08.29.12 | Are you trolling me ovrot? |
ViralOblivion
08.29.12 | @captain north he was descent if you got a heart scale to get hammer arm he became a lot better |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | Sycther > Scizor
Absolutely not.
"Can we not evolve any more old Pokemon? They fucking ruined Rhydon who I loved. Tangela, lickitung, magneton, Aipom....they all got fucking HORRIFIC evolutions. And Ninjask, grimer/muk...well if you don't like them they were a shitty concept, but muk was no worse than grimer as an evo. Nah, Mr Mime and Jynx were the only truly terrible first gen designs"
Aipom and Lickitung were ugly to begin with. If anything, I was happy that the older pokemon got a little bit extra attention. Not to mention, the methods of evolution were rather intriguing. If Magnizone had Levitate, it'd be amazing. Also, Yanmega and Mammoswine are fucking beasts (same goes with Glaceon, but not so much with Leafeon).
Not just muk and grimer (I do love both pokemon). But we also have like Diglett - Dugtrio, Doduo - Dugtrio, Coffing - Weezing, Ponyta - Rapidash, etc. Not to say that all the evolutions were lame, but there were plenty in gen 1 anyways. |
ViralOblivion
08.29.12 | Lance is not that hard gengar with thunderbolt takes care of it pretty quick hana |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | Damn, I forgot Honchrow and Weavile. They were both pretty damn sweet. |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | "Lance is not that hard gengar with thunderbolt takes care of it pretty quick hana"
Why not have any water/ice type that is faster than Dragonite and 1-hit KO it with Ice Beam? |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | i honestly think tangrowth is a good pokemon. it looks just like an evolution should |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | Magnezone with levitate would be overpowered imo.
I like him with Magnet Pull, lets you trap enemy steels. |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | "Magnezone with levitate would be overpowered imo."
Exactly the point here. He gets too crushed by ground type moves (the ever-present Earthquake). But yes, he's great for getting rid of those pesky (really extremely annoying) steel types. |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | Just run him with Magnet Lift, 12 resistances, an immunity and great defenses with levitate is too much man. |
OysterizerInsomniac
08.29.12 | idk, they gave Elektross levitate I don't see why Magnezone with Levitate would be overpowered, it's still weak to fighting and fire. |
tkxxx7
08.29.12 | Aipom's evolution (can't remember the name) wrecks shit online
Weavile is easily one of the best pokemon ever as far as stats/appearance, as well as Scizor
but Scizor clearly has superior typing (only 1 weakness wtf) and is the biggest baton pass sponge i have ever seen. if ninjask passes a sword dance or two (and speed boost) to it, consider the match over
Whereas Weavile is weak to lots of things (fighting is 4x also) but generally if you're using Weavile and not beating things in one turn you're doing it wrong anyway
uh what else was mentioned in this thread
Swampert was the best water starter and he still rules with earthquake |
Masochist
08.29.12 | In terms of actual Pokemon in the generation:
RBY
GSC
DPP
RSE
BW
...In terms of the games of the generation:
GSC (Started here)
DPP+HG/SS
B&W
RBY (there's a whole bunch of retarded things about these games)
RSE + FR/LG |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | Elektross isn't nearly as bulky as Magnezone. |
Funeralopolis
08.29.12 | everything wrecks with earthquake it becomes pretty annoying online. |
Captain North
08.29.12 | I'm not talking about stat design, I'm talking how they look. But yeah, some of them weren't great to begin with. But I'll never get over ruining Rhydon, are how dumb Magmorter is. |
Funeralopolis
08.29.12 | The new evolutions are awesome because magmar etc would be completely worthless pokemon without having their stats upped. |
tkxxx7
08.29.12 | I don't see why people on the internet (and by that i mean tumblr basically) always glorify the designs of the orginal 150 and shame the gen 5 ones for being ridiculous i mean come on have you seen lickitung wtf is that |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | Few fire and fighting types can withstand a 130 base Sp. Atk + STAB thunderbolt. Not to mention, he has 115 Def and an okay 90 Sp. Def. Eelektross doesn't have very good stats.
"Aipom's evolution (can't remember the name) wrecks shit online" Really!? |
tkxxx7
08.29.12 | Not only worthless, but forgotten |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | Magmortar has a dumb looking head and weird shade of pink |
tkxxx7
08.29.12 | yes really. one of his abilities i dont remember i think it makes you get max number of hits for multi hit moves or something??? idk i've seen it ran with return and whatever smacking move it has and people just baton pass to it and troll you |
Captain North
08.29.12 | Nah, I understand there's bad designs in all gens, and I like gen 5. It's gen 4 that's largely bad. They even got the rodent Bidoof wrong. |
Masochist
08.29.12 | Have you seen Jynx? Racist ass shit.
Not a fan of the Pokemon design of the 5th Gen, though. There are some ridiculous ones. Braviary, on the other hand, is one of the best looking Poke to come out in a few generations. |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | Rhydon sucked to begin with. Yeah he looked cool (but rather plain), but a drop of water or a leaf meant certain death. |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | Acrobatics Ambipom is mean |
ViralOblivion
08.29.12 | I think every Pokemon gen has Great designs and terrible ones even gen 1 and when they decide to end Pokemon Gary oak should be the professor that gives you your Pokemon he is a Pokemon researcher in the show and have ash aka red be the champion of the league that would be awesome |
Captain North
08.29.12 | Dude, I'm not talking stats! |
Masochist
08.29.12 | "Rhydon sucked to begin with. Yeah he looked cool (but rather plain), but a drop of water or a leaf meant certain death."
Or a Thunderbolt to its horn. ;-) |
Funeralopolis
08.29.12 | I dunno why people treat the old generations like they were immaculate:
Jynx- fucking dumbest pokemon design. Wtf is it supposed to be a black woman?
Eggsecute- it is half a dozen eggs, seriously that is just as dumb or dumber than the ice cream cone.
Machamp- a buff guy in a speedo with four arms.
Grimer/ Muk- goo with eyes
Lickitung- just awful |
tkxxx7
08.29.12 | "Acrobatics Ambipom is mean"
^^^
also uh Reuniclus is awesome |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | "yes really. one of his abilities i dont remember i think it makes you get max number of hits for multi hit moves or something???"
You're talking about skill link. Cloyster's Skill Link > anyone else (he has Icicle Spear, Spike Cannon and Rock Blast ftw).
"Have you seen Jynx? Racist ass shit."
That's why they changed it's skin color from black to purple or did you not get the memo?
"It's gen 4 that's largely bad. They even got the rodent Bidoof wrong."
Staraptor rules gtfo |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | "Or a Thunderbolt to its horn. ;-)"
Ironic that the thing that caused it's death in the manga became it's Lightningrod in Gen 3, huh? |
Funeralopolis
08.29.12 | >use swords dance
> held on with focus sash
> speed boosted
>protect
>speed boost
>baton pass |
Masochist
08.29.12 | "That's why they changed it's skin color from black to purple or did you not get the memo?"
Oh, right, the color change, cause now that she's purple, it's totally not a caracture of a black woman anymore...;-)
|
Ninjask
08.29.12 | >Baton pass to Scizor and your opponent is done |
Funeralopolis
08.29.12 | Mawile and Nosepass are still the worst pokemon ever |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | "Oh, right, the color change, cause now that she's purple, it's totally not a caracture of a black woman anymore...;-)"
Yeah, I'm not sure what they were thinking about Jynx in the first place. |
Masochist
08.29.12 | Or Baton Pass to Breloom. |
tkxxx7
08.29.12 | Funny thing is that there's not really room for a fire type on most of my teams except the fire/bug legendary and any smart opponent is gonna get rid of it before showing you Scizor anyway |
ViralOblivion
08.29.12 | Rhydon clefable and Lapras were the first Pokemon designs and clefable is gengars shadow its fucking crazy haha |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | Ambipom w/Technician
Acrobatics is a 110 base power flying attack
Fake Out is a 80 base auto-flinch
Low Sweep is 120 base that murders enemies speed
Pursuit is 80 base and catches on switch |
Funeralopolis
08.29.12 | There are still so many stat combinations Game Freak could make that haven't been done. We need more defensive pokemon of different types like defensive fire types and stuff. |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | "Mawile and Nosepass are still the worst pokemon ever"
I dunno, Dunsparce, Lickitung, Bidoof are all pretty horrible. |
tkxxx7
08.29.12 | I thought Fake Out was 60 and technician brings it up to 90? Idk haven't played in awhile
also Scizor's technician use is so overkill it's crazy |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | Dunsparce is no way horrible
You ever been para-flinched to death? |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | "Ambipom w/Technician
Acrobatics is a 110 base power flying attack
Fake Out is a 80 base auto-flinch
Low Sweep is 120 base that murders enemies speed
Pursuit is 80 base and catches on switch"
I'm pretty sure Technician makes it 1.5* not 2* if the power is 60 or lower.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Technician |
Funeralopolis
08.29.12 | Ambipom/ technician/ silk scarf:
fake out
double hit
last resort
|
tkxxx7
08.29.12 | "defensive fire types"
that'd require moves to match, many of which would have to be shared among pre-existing fire types. a fire type that just uses standard defensive moves and screens or something would be easy but boring. balance is hard |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | Fakeout is 40 base and technician doubles anything 60 and lower |
Funeralopolis
08.29.12 | I actually really like dunsparce's design. But my favourite looking pokemon is Marowak. |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | "You ever been para-flinched to death?"
Nah, I'd usually be dead within 3 hits so...
"Or Baton Pass to Breloom."
True that. |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | oh only 1.5?
my mistake
|
Masochist
08.29.12 | "Dunsparce is no way horrible
You ever been para-flinched to death?"
Yeah...by a Togekiss, who is WAY better at it. |
Funeralopolis
08.29.12 | para-flinching to death never works with dunsparce |
tkxxx7
08.29.12 | it works too damned well with that one legendary whose name i can never fucking remember |
Funeralopolis
08.29.12 | YES togekiss destroys with serene grace, air slash and sweet kiss |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | I have had great wins with dunsparce and of course togekiss and jirachi do it better but they are no where near the same tiers |
Masochist
08.29.12 | Edited. Fucking Togekiss. Though I've never played Little Cup. |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | Togekiss is awesome, I never thought I'd like the Togepi family but damn Togekiss.
"But my favourite looking pokemon is Marowak."
Marowak with Thick Club is probably the strongest thing in the game.
"oh only 1.5? my mistake"
1.5* is still really good. |
Funeralopolis
08.29.12 | I edited it to say with dunsprace which is what I meant. The problem is that if dunsparce gets hit once he is basically cooked and it takes a lot of headbutts for dunsparce to get a kill. |
tkxxx7
08.29.12 | jirachi that's the damned name
I was one of the first in PO to abuse Togekiss but I stopped |
Funeralopolis
08.29.12 | 1.5 + silk scarf= 2 |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | Guys, Cloyster is where it's at now.
Cloyster - Skill Link - Focus Sash
Spike Cannon, Icicle Spear, Rock Blast, Shell Smash
Shell Smash in the first turn and you can kill Ubers and anything that doesn't use priority moves. Against priority attacks, you'll want a white herb instead. |
Masochist
08.29.12 | "I edited it to say with dunsprace which is what I meant. The problem is that if dunsparce gets hit once he is basically cooked and it takes a lot of headbutts for dunsparce to get a kill."
Truth. Same with Marowak with that Thick Club. Yeah, strongest Earthquake in the game by far, but he's slow, and if he gets touched, he's done. |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | 1.5+silk scarf+STAB |
tkxxx7
08.29.12 | Sigilyph with Magic Guard is pretty good as well
ran one with Cosmic Power, Calm Mind, Roost, and Stored Power |
Ovrot
08.29.12 | Drain Punch Garbador is where it's at |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | Espeon with Magic Bounce is a mad annoying fucker. |
GreyShadow
08.29.12 | games itself 5 and 2 practically tie for the best since I can't pick between them. 3 is the best for competitive battling though. |
Masochist
08.29.12 | "Cloyster - Skill Link - Focus Sash
Spike Cannon, Icicle Spear, Rock Blast, Shell Smash
Shell Smash in the first turn and you can kill Ubers and anything that doesn't use priority moves. Against priority attacks, you'll want a white herb instead."
Truth. I hear Cloyster's tearing shit up right now. If only it weren't for those damn Stealth Rocks.
I'm happy to see Espeon's usage rise, too (thanks to Magic Bounce). Ever since its introduction in GSC, it's always been my favorite Eeveelution. |
tkxxx7
08.29.12 | I loved Espeon/Umbreon/Glaceon equally as far as design but in terms of stats I think I'd go with Jolteon
all the eeveelutions have shitty movesets unfortunately |
Masochist
08.29.12 | Got Ninja(sk)'d on the Espeon Magic Bounce name-drop :-P |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | "Ever since its introduction in GSC, it's always been my favorite Eeveelution."
Yes! No love of Umbreon which always made me sad because I knew that it would always suck. I heard Stealth Rock wasn't used as often as before. |
tkxxx7
08.29.12 | yeah stealth rock is finally a bit less common. in those days i used to run aerodactyl as a starter to get them up and then try to kill something with rock slide or whatever |
ViralOblivion
08.29.12 | I love umberon it can be an annoying bitch with the right moves |
tkxxx7
08.29.12 | shit. now i have to find my DS charger |
ViralOblivion
08.29.12 | Favorite eeveelution is Espeon umberon and Vaporeon for its ridiculous HP and for some reason I love primeape does anyone else? Haha |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | I loved Vaporean, but I would always choose Espeon over it. Never liked Primeape that much. |
OysterizerInsomniac
08.29.12 | primeape with rain dance and thunder ftw (jk shitty sp attack but it's fun to surprise people with it) |
ViralOblivion
08.29.12 | I always liked that he had good speed I like using Pokemon that have potential but aren't completely OP makes the game a little more challenging |
Ninjask
08.29.12 | "primeape with rain dance and thunder ftw (jk shitty sp attack but it's fun to surprise people with it)"
lmfao, bro go with Drizzle and then Volcarona with Hurricane. Sweet and surprise setup. |
Masochist
08.29.12 | Speaking of Hurricane, no one's mentioned Dragonite yet. Maybe more than Espeon, I absolutely LOVE that he's finally getting the respect he deserves. |
XingKing
08.29.12 | This list is actually perfect |
Dolving999
08.29.12 | Anything beyond 1st and 2nd generations didn't click with me. |
Evreaia
08.29.12 | Johto was the worst for me, still liked those pokes a lot though. |
Evreaia
08.29.12 | Togekiss is awesome, I never thought I'd like the Togepi family but damn Togekiss. [2]
yeah, I got wrecked one time but one of those and started breeding my own one right afterwards. |
qwe3
08.29.12 | 2 is 1 |
PistolPete
08.29.12 | "I think every Pokemon gen has Great designs and terrible ones even gen 1 and when they decide to end Pokemon Gary oak should be the professor that gives you your Pokemon he is a Pokemon researcher in the show and have ash aka red be the champion of the league that would be awesome "
stop it, don't talk like that |
Rsetness9
08.30.12 | Pokeman? Hmmmm.......actually no sir, I am not gay. |
Rsetness9
08.30.12 | hahaha just kidding, sorry if I offended you. It's okay with me if you like Pokemon. |
TheFonz123
08.30.12 | johto is my fav |
Ninjask
08.30.12 | "best eeveelution is jolteon there is no disputing this"
No, Glaceon, Espeon, and Vaporean are all better than Jolteon, bro. |
TheFonz123
08.30.12 | umbreon is so solid as a defensive pokemon. |
Ninjask
08.30.12 | Umbreon rules, yea it's just that the others are more fun. |
Ninjask
08.30.12 | I mean movesets, metagame usage, abilities (espeon's magic bounce), team synergy, etc. |
LifeAsAChipmunk
08.30.12 | Dammit, I always miss these threads!!! |