Sniff: Please Help Me Be A Music Elitist

FictionalFlames 08.15.12	Listen to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8HtfhPhkPw
AGuyIsWatchingYou 08.15.12	Don't listen to music but if you see anything on the site with a rating >4 be sure to criticize using buzzwords like "overrated", "derivative" or everyone's favorite which makes no sense whenever it's used "gimmicky".
Sniff 08.15.12	Yeah that's what I want. Some help with the douchy attitude
FictionalFlames 08.15.12	say things what Baseline would say
alachlahol 08.15.12	hmmm well i notice from your list that you listen to everything from miss may i to trivum but your first step should be listening to everything from EMPEROR to trivium then we can go from there
SpaceCunt 08.15.12	Your top 8 is way too standard with an almost complete disregard for depth or any other needed element for a more developed (or rather, progressed -- it sounds nicer) mind. You can start by at least changing what you listen to. ;)
MisterTornado 08.15.12	@ErstwhileRecords
KSK1 08.15.12	You're top 8 is only allowed to have 25 fans collectively in order to be obscure enough to be elite.
Storm In A Teacup 08.15.12	Listen to 100% Authenticated Gypsy Swag music. Make sure it has the stamp on there so that you know it really is official.
SpaceCunt 08.15.12	lol
YankeeDudel 08.15.12	The only way to true elitism is to start listening to mediocre drone / ambient / noise / power electronic albums and pretend they are great. You'll then have to give up most conventional music with actual melodies, rhythms, harmonies, and all the stuff those "normies" like so much. Then laugh at them. There you go.
SpaceCunt 08.15.12	Field recordings, pls. Better than the shit that's praised here on Sputnik.
YankeeDudel 08.15.12	Oh yes and field recordings. Preferably of a bathroom at a retirement home.
omnipanzer 08.15.12	#2... it's already to late for you.
AGuyIsWatchingYou 08.15.12	Yeah, especially listen to field recordings of everyday things which you could hear were you to actually go outside.
Storm In A Teacup 08.15.12	ughh Yankee just described poseur fag elitism. You just gotta dive into every genre of music and listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen and eventually you will start post-listening and have graduated to the status of true elite-hood. Learning at least 3 different instruments as well helps. But remember! True elitism takes time and elitists scoff at time because they are already post-listening anyway!! It is truly a B-E-A-youtiful thing.
ffs 08.15.12	well firstly i'm going to need to see a picture of your dick to check whether or not you're qualified
Sniff 08.15.12	Storm In A Teacup. I already play like 6 instuments. Is that in any way better?
treeqt. 08.15.12	first you have to accept that all of those 8 are 1/5 material at best
omnipanzer 08.15.12	^ you are wrong, back to FNG status for you little boy.
Treeman 08.15.12	look at my ratings and listen to them. hate everything else.
Rikardur 08.15.12	Sniff, theory is for poseur faggots too.
Storm In A Teacup 08.15.12	"Storm In A Teacup. I already play like 6 instuments. Is that in any way better?" Fuck yeah man that's awesome. What do you play? I've been playing Upright Bass and electronic bass for a decade, guitar for 8, keyboard/piano for a few years, screaming vocals for a few years, I fuck around with different instruments that my dad has bought when I go to his house. And I've lately been recording my own songs. Your next step if you haven't taken it is writing/recording material and to not stop.
jrm96 08.15.12	If death magnetic is u're 2, y did u give it a 1?
omnipanzer 08.15.12	jrm is here, it is officially a party now.
Sniff 08.15.12	The usual ones. You know. Guitar, piano, drums, bass, harmonica and some ukulele. And you should show us some of your songs. So we could go like music elitist all over them.
jrm96 08.15.12	I still dont have an answer
Sniff 08.15.12	Oh yeah... Have you ever heard Lars Ulrich?
jrm96 08.15.12	Yea wat about him
Sniff 08.15.12	It's impossible to give him a higher rating than 2. And yeah Death Magnetic is somewhat shit
Storm In A Teacup 08.15.12	@sniff: That's what's up I fucked around with harmonica for years, but I lost it I think somebody stole it a while back. I was going to contribute a song to the sputnik compilation, but I decided the songs I have right now are all going to go on an EP that I will post here once it is complete. Hopefully that will be up here before 2013.
jrm96 08.15.12	But isnt this u're top 8
Sniff 08.15.12	Will it be postmetal? Please say it will
omnipanzer 08.15.12	They were when he posted the list... not now dude.
Sniff 08.15.12	Changed the description
omnipanzer 08.15.12	Good call, be vigilant at all times.
jrm96 08.15.12	Thank u i was getting confused
Sniff 08.15.12	Dude. Im from Sweden. Not familiar with english genre terms
Sniff 08.15.12	And my last facebookupdate was. "Skrillex is more than an artist, he is a lifestyle" so c'mon. Give me a break
Storm In A Teacup 08.15.12	@sniff: Ambient Post-Metalcore lol Idk what my main genre tag would be but I'm really excited about it all.
Sniff 08.15.12	It's a shame I'm all into Deez Nuts
Sniff 08.15.12	@Storm. You say something like DSHS?
mindleviticus 08.15.12	you've got a long way to go man
YankeeDudel 08.15.12	Refer to Riff in my first post in this thread. That about sums up his existence. But we love him anyway!!!!
Storm In A Teacup 08.15.12	Department of Social and Health Services?????? lol who? @Riff: I might soon.
omnipanzer 08.15.12	sweden is the cradle of Noomi Rapace dude sweet
Sniff 08.15.12	Devil sold his soul...
JohnnyoftheWell 08.15.12	Copy Riff and you'll go a long way
YankeeDudel 08.15.12	a long way DOWN maybe! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjNCUV2YO6I Riff you dig Goo Goo Dolls???????
Sniff 08.15.12	Baseline. Been missing you.
JohnnyoftheWell 08.15.12	Don't check them, Base is more than an elitist
YankeeDudel 08.15.12	Base is the elitist's elitist. The peoples champ.
Sniff 08.15.12	Have'nt put on a shirt yet. And whats the deal with the ending on "White oak doors"?
jrm96 08.15.12	Thats extreme
Sniff 08.15.12	@Base. How about Sean Paul and Shaggy.
jrm96 08.15.12	The biebs?
YankeeDudel 08.15.12	Yeah Base is unpredictable in her eliteness. Riff is a pretty straightforward every day run of the mill hipster. Theres no uniqueness about him. Base on the hand.... shes got "it". We bow to you Base. You're goin places.
Sniff 08.15.12	Base
jrm96 08.15.12	Watch out, u mite offend riff
YankeeDudel 08.15.12	@Base I can see that. Have the police used your abilities?
jrm96 08.15.12	Base is a real badass
AGuyIsWatchingYou 08.15.12	baseline do u even have a fav avant-garde silent film that u only saw once but insist is the most beautiful thing ever made
AGuyIsWatchingYou 08.15.12	shrek is illuminati tho
jrm96 08.15.12	Wow base is a true eltist
YankeeDudel 08.15.12	Base Ive heard legends of you being able to listen to upwards of 15 albums at once. From all genres from J Pop to noisecore. Is this true?
Sniff 08.15.12	@ Base. Are my ratings good enough for you?
NeverW0lff777 08.15.12	Needs more cowbell.
JohnnyoftheWell 08.15.12	Base is a postlitist
Sniff 08.15.12	But Base I soo need your approval
Sniff 08.15.12	Then have my word for it. Swedish noice "Blod" is all you ever need
Storm In A Teacup 08.15.12	I haven't heard DSHS sniff
Sniff 08.15.12	Check em out and report back to me about it.
MisterTornado 08.15.12	Have to be down for the EAI, Lowercase, Onyko mang
Tyrael 08.15.12	We all want to be like Eli agreed
jrm96 08.15.12	Their's a book?
jrm96 08.15.12	Wait isnt it actually "there's".
jrm96 08.15.12	Bible?
omnipanzer 08.15.12	^ she will help you
jrm96 08.15.12	The bible is holy?
Turtlestlker 08.15.12	You're bad and you should feel bad.
jrm96 08.15.12	I should?
Calc 08.15.12	one does not simply become an elite, they must be born.
TheFonz123 08.15.12	really obscure metal demos, power violence (not grind), free improv(anything like it ie onkyo), noise, obscure and minimal ambient and classical. obscure indie, no rap. Make sure everything you "like" is really subtle, and minimal. go too rym and look up esoteric lists of all this shit on the charts.
jrm96 08.15.12	Too dificult
TheFonz123 08.15.12	liek spelling difficult?
Trebor. 08.15.12	Listen to the opposite of what the staff listens to
Dunpeal 08.15.12	might wanna start with Eternal Sunshining Miss May I from ur memories. idk tho that's just me
TheSpirit 08.15.12	it's not about what you listen to it's about decrying what everybody else is listening to
ViperAces 08.15.12	Just think the music you are listening to is the best.
ViperAces 08.15.12	Have you seen the movie they made based on The Bible its amazing.
RooseveltsGhost 08.15.12	Don't EVER admit that you haven't heard something. Instead, just dismiss anything unfamiliar like it's something you've long since abandoned.
jrm96 08.15.12	The holy bible? They made a movie about it
ViperAces 08.15.12	Its actually a chick-flick.
jrm96 08.15.12	My fave type of movies. Are the chicks hot
Sniff 08.15.12	How can this still be going on?
jrm96 08.15.12	We type a response to each other
Sniff 08.15.12	True. Do you by any chance no why the staff removed my super interesting news items?
jrm96 08.15.12	Wats was the news
Sniff 08.15.12	The new Witchcraft song... It was pretty ok...
jrm96 08.15.12	They prob thought the article was too badass
jrm96 08.15.12	Or if u used profanity or something
Sniff 08.15.12	Sorry... Im just sitting around drunk, listening to Alice in Chains... That's why it's hard staying on topic
Sniff 08.15.12	And no profanity at all...
Sniff 08.15.12	I'll have to ask them. Do you like know the staff and stuff?
jrm96 08.15.12	Hmmm how odd. And if u like alice in chains have u checked out my list
jrm96 08.15.12	No sorry dont know them cant u send a message or something
Sniff 08.15.12	I did. Hope they're not mad. I'll check out that list right away. Be in touch soon
jrm96 08.15.12	Cool
Calc 08.15.12	i dunno i listen to BTBAM and im the opposite of elite...
YankeeDudel 08.15.12	dont bring Opeth into this potsy. ANYONE BUT OPETH PLEASE!!!!!1111
Sniff 08.15.12	Agalloch?
Calc 08.15.12	yes monuments will be built to the amount of sarcasm displayed right there
jrm96 08.15.12	Oh shit hes begging he really means it
YankeeDudel 08.15.12	If I played Opeth and Agalloch for most people theyd think I was elite as fuck. But on this site they might as well be Gotye and Maroon 5.
Calc 08.15.12	if I played those two bands to most people they'd walk away..
Sniff 08.15.12	You need to get some new friends
YankeeDudel 08.15.12	Well any music with harsh vox usually gets that response. No matter how melodic the music is.
Calc 08.15.12	calm down silent i knew what you meant i just didnt put lol at the end so you knew I was kidding..
YoWassupBros 08.15.12	Mind truly boggled at entry level mediocre bands like Sex Pistols making someone into a music elitist. We'll talk after you write a paragraph comparing and contrasting producer Kramer's work with the avant-garde ramblings of Ikue Mori. But srs, don't be a music elitist, worst kind of people ever =[
bach 08.15.12	This thread could've easily wrapped up with Michael's post.
TheSpirit 08.15.12	like i said before it's not about what you actually listen to -- you could have never heard music in your life before, but as long as you call everyone elses taste shit, then you're elite as fuck
jrm96 08.15.12	Yo sniff any update on ur article
Sniff 08.16.12	So elitism is more like a personality... Sweet. And jrm I don't know. Could be cos they released another song two weeks ago...
Sirob 08.16.12	elitism is a disease
jrm96 08.16.12	Hmm sounds suspicious if u ask me
HSThomas 08.16.12	Sniff crack, rape Baseline, kill Ire/RiffOClock, avoid Skrillex. Job done.
HSThomas 08.16.12	Btw that's the Deviant version.
jrm96 08.16.12	Hey u wrote a book disnt u
HSThomas 08.16.12	yeah took me two years and a whole shitload of ketamine.
jrm96 08.16.12	Damn i read it......... MINDFUCK
HSThomas 08.16.12	yea its definitely a cranium rape
jrm96 08.16.12	I barely got to the table of contents when i felt-this wierd sensation coming from within
ShadowRemains 08.16.12	"well firstly i'm going to need to see a picture of your dick to check whether or not you're qualified" lmao ffs wins so many threads it's ridonkulous
TheFonz123 08.16.12	elitism is incredibly stupid and useless when applied to music, anyone willing to use logic will see that. fundamentalism is very important for a society to have, but that attitude simply does not apply to something so subjective. elitism is not " a disease" or an epidemic born from the internet becuase it's been around for centuries. It has always been around becuase it is a question of ego, and nothing else. As long as there has been narcissism and a lack of articulacy there has been elitism-which is to say always. It will continue to exist and it will continue to be incredibly idiotic.
YoWassupBros 08.16.12	Elitism=sad, insecure people basing their personalities on whatever the hell they listen to. Congrats, you downloaded an album off some website and put earphones on to listen to it. You want a medal for that?
TheFonz123 08.16.12	like i said, elitism is defined by narcissism and nothing more
PurpleDino 08.16.12	think you're opinion is better than someone else's done
TheSpirit 08.16.12	Elitism=sad, insecure people basing their personalities on whatever the hell they listen to lol you're an idiot. at the end of the day it's just music, you're making some grand gesture and assuming so much based on one very small aspect and probably insignificant aspect of someones life. some people just like to be assholes for fun.
YoWassupBros 08.16.12	I'm talking about music elitists brah. Yeah, I'm saying anyone that acts an elitist about whatever the hell they listen to is a sad, insecure person. Like you said, it's just music, so getting elitist over it is the epitome of pathetic.
TheFonz123 08.16.12	that's a little too judgmental don't you think? My dad is a fundamentalist thinker but he is not especially insecure; it's just the way he operates and countless other non-insecure non-pathetic people are that way to.
YoWassupBros 08.16.12	Oh shit, forgot about dadrock elitists. I guess they're not insecure, just don't get with the times. "Old man shouts at clouds" style.
TheFonz123 08.16.12	thanks for the insight
shanshanson 08.16.12	http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/30/opinion/30jacoby.html?_r=1&th=&emc=th&pagewanted=print
Calc 08.16.12	non-insecure=secure fyi
TheFonz123 08.16.12	I know that, I worded it that way to prove a point becuase he said"insecure". Putting "non" in front of it illustrates my point much better rather than simply saying the opposite version.
TheFonz123 08.16.12	bitch look at my ratings, you don't want none
PurpleDino 08.17.12	mate this site is so gay
PurpleDino 08.17.12	and it's y'all not ya'll
Trebor. 08.17.12	Did you ever notice it's only plebs who say elitism doesn't exist?
PurpleDino 08.17.12	if by plebs you mean elitists
TheFonz123 08.17.12	who says elitism doesn't exist? of course it exists.
Graveyard 08.17.12	my pie chart makes me happy
Trebor. 08.17.12	I mean like the idea that some things are actually elite not just that some people believe they are elite ya know
TheFonz123 08.17.12	O yea I get what you mean now
TheFonz123 08.17.12	"my pie chart makes me happy" if my pie chart were completely accurate it would be more electronic, and no "emo" and "other" and would instead have hip hop and "metal" (ie doom metal)
Trebor. 08.17.12	My pie chart is lovely, I just wish it didn't have goldenrod
PurpleDino 08.17.12	no no no
North0House2 08.17.12	John Zorn.
TheFonz123 08.17.12	john zorn is so good omg
Skrapyard 08.17.12	To be a musical elitist: First, listen to music few other people have heard (or, alternatively, that few other people like). Then choose a couple of social/community-based music forums/websites and talk up your favorite albums, viz., the ones that no one else likes. Talk down High on Fire, too - the response is sure to be LOL. Make sure you use accurate spelling and correct grammar; it also helps to exploit complex sentence structures [to invariably confuse near-illiterate users] and, more generally, write well. Everyone will accuse you of being an asshole and get real mad, calling you an 'elitist'. If you need some albums with which to accomplish this task, I will be happy to recommend you some.
Skrapyard 08.17.12	btw Yankee jus mad cuz he doesn't fit in with the older metal users on this site
TheFonz123 08.17.12	none of that matters to me. I love music and these websites are a way for me to find more music which makes me happy. I love having intelligent discussions,and I can get that on the interweb (sometimes). For example, I love "rasputin's" taste. I've never even interacted with him but I rape the shit out of his rym profile, because all that matters to me is finding good music, even if it means exploiting how "non-elite" i am.
Graveyard 08.17.12	Yankee doesn't even listen to half of the stuff he rates.
TheFonz123 08.17.12	doesn't that defeat the entire purpose of the rating system?
Skrapyard 08.17.12	Yankee defeats the entire purpose of this website.
North0House2 08.17.12	^^^ Yeah, I don't understand the Neurosis love sometimes. They're okay. But, I've never really liked them all too much.
Deviant. 08.17.12	"Intelligent persons"
Deviant. 08.17.12	But surely you jest!
Deviant. 08.17.12	I got ca$h money Or something like that...
Sniff 08.17.12	I'm kinda intelligent. I liek Neurosis
Skrapyard 08.17.12	I'm not equating intelligence and excellent music taste, Baseline. Intelligence is likely to draw attacks of 'elitism' or 'snobbery' regardless of actual taste.
YankeeDudel 08.17.12	Skrap you are so above i bow to you i bow
TheFonz123 08.17.12	good taste is not related to intelligence.
Skrapyard 08.17.12	I'm not claiming to be intelligent, and I'm not claiming to have good taste. Y u all so mad?
Skrapyard 08.17.12	O rite rite Yankee continues to be insecure about his own shit taste. Riff at least comes up with funny retorts.
YankeeDudel 08.17.12	"Im not claiming to have good taste" "Yankee continues to be insecure about his own shit taste" Hmmm
Skrapyard 08.17.12	Hmmm logic... u can haz none...
YankeeDudel 08.17.12	Crapyard was def a funny retort I should have thunk of that
Sniff 08.17.12	Why you fight all the time?
YankeeDudel 08.17.12	Oh so Skrap you claim you dont have good taste yet you are the authority on what shit taste is. Gotcha.
Storm In A Teacup 08.17.12	but you didn't
PurpleDino 08.18.12	"good taste" is oxymoronic, when referring to music
Graveyard 08.18.12	Don't listen to Yankee, he doesn't even listen to half of the stuff he rates.
ShadowRemains 08.18.12	"Oh so Skrap you claim you dont have good taste yet you are the authority on what shit taste is. Gotcha." lol i thought you actually were becoming a better user for a period though but now not so much
Relinquished 08.18.12	why would you ever think such false realities
ShadowRemains 08.18.12	ikr