TylerOnFire: Good, Not Well Known Pop-punk

TylerOnFire 06.29.12	Heroes For Hire is my favorite. Their song with Joel Birch called Set In Stone is incredibly catchy
BirthRite 06.29.12	heard them all, they suck
TylerOnFire 06.30.12	You suck
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Listened to We Still Dream real fast cuz the name sounded badass and wanted to see if the band matched the name. They didnt.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	What is there to know andcas. Enlighten me.
TylerOnFire 06.30.12	@ andcas, that is the definition of a troll
TylerOnFire 06.30.12	He is also the pop-punk genious yankeedude
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	We've been over this andy and its all different strokes my brotha but I really dont get how anyone over 16 can listen to this stuff. The instrumentation is mediocre at best and samey. The vocals and lyrics sound geared to middle schoolers. The only thing these bands can rely on is perhaps a catchy chorus (thus POP punk derr) but if thats all they have going for them they arent any better than any junk on the radio, cept they play power chords instead of electro beatzZzz. What am I missing again? Andcas give me your top 3 modern pop punk bands. And please dont say Wonder Years, Transit, or House Boat.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Speechless
KILL 06.30.12	yea pop punk is made for 12 year olds but there are some k bands in the shit
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Andcas you didnt answer. Give me your top 3 modern pop punk bands. You know Green Day, Offspring, Rancid, Bad Religion, Pennywise, NOFX, Alkaline Trio, Bouncing Souls and all that stuff was considered pop punk when I was a kid, but then shit like Good Charlotte and Simple Plan came around and made it completely ghey. My main issue with it is that there is nothing musically interesting about 99% of it. Which is why they have to depend on choruses so much, a la pop music.
TylerOnFire 06.30.12	You just got served Dudel
LifeAsAChipmunk 06.30.12	Anyone who thinks Good Charlotte and Simple Plan are pop punk is an idiot. They don't even consider themselves pop punk. Andcas, to be fair, a good amount of the punk community did not appreciate Blink-182. They were apt to compare them to the likes Britney Spears. So his argument is not an original one, neither is it a baseless one.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	You really gonna ask me when THE OFFSPRING were pop punk? Ha really? So all their shitty pop singles and TRL appearances meant what exactly? They were the poppiest one. Bad Religion got pretty poppy by the early/mid 90s. NOFX same thing. Rancid too. Along with Green Day these 5 bands were the leaders of the pop punk mainstream breakthrough in the 90s, with Blink 182 right after.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	And so far Dear Landlord and The Dopamines are very mediocre. Not bad but nothing stands out about them at all that I havent heard 100 times. Is this really the best there is today? Im just saying man how long can you really listen to 2 minute power chord songs with "WHOA OH WHOA" choruses for? Dont you get bored?
LifeAsAChipmunk 06.30.12	The Offspring definitely became pop punk at some point. I don't see why there's debating that.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Come Out And Play, I Choose, Pretty Fly, Why Dont You Get A Job, Original Prankster, Hit That, CRUISIN CALIFORNIA lol.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Bas Religion wasnt overly pop punk since Greg was just so smart and badass and used big words but they were fuckin poppy bro. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbFHwulwCvI I mean what do you think this song is? Verse-Chorus-Verse with very melodic vocals. This is a straight up pop song and a big reason why Bad Religion got so big was because they had alot of hooks but at the same time made it sound intelligent.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN6kCgMUjFw This too. Once Stranger Than Fiction came out in 94 when Green Day, Offspring, and Rancid came out with Dookie, Smash, and Out Cam The Wolves Bad Religion became much poppier when they signed with Atlantic. Its not a coincidence thats when they broke through into the mainstream is it?
owen 06.30.12	I saw Veara playing before The Riverboat Gamblers and Black Pacific two years ago They sucked
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Andcas like I said there are some solid pop punk bands but most of them suck ass and are completely derivative and void of any type of progression or originality. I mean there isnt a less creative genre than pop punk right now. Its fine that you like it but 99.9% of the time I know exactly what Im getting when I hear it. I guess I just look for more interesting musicianship/production which is why I like more metal, electronica, indie, post rock, alternative, progressive, rock, jazz, and that stuff I guess. I like some punk but its near the bottom of my list. Just my opinion and we can put this to rest already.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	And The Menzingers arent pop punk if you're saying Bad Religion wasnt. See that band is okay. I just dont like most of the overly poppy stuff unless its a nostalgia thing.
pmmets07 06.30.12	"And so far Dear Landlord and The Dopamines are very mediocre." you just crossed the line yankee
bungy 06.30.12	lol Yankee is a tool. You can generally pigeon hole any genre like that. How hard is it to enjoy catchy music? Can't believe you listed alternative and indie after talking about unoriginalty.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	WE STILL DREAM. I used to talk to Dustin way back, he has a hip hop project too. He used to write me songs, awe, I miss those boys.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Catchiness is one of the last things I look for though. If its there great but there has to at least be some interesting music going on in the background. Otherwise its just pop. And the whole point of alternative music was to be different aka ALTERNATIVE. See alternative rock/metal can be catchy but at the same time there was experimentation and much better musicianship than pop punk. I dont think thats debatable unless you think alt rock was only Creed. Pop punk is the easiest genre to pigeon hole pretty much. It hasnt changed at all besides gotten progressively lamer.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Also, that awkward moment when Rancid is considered pop punk when they're obviously more ska-punk.... >_> I'd also like to point out that Rancid brought bands like Good Charlotte up into the mix; as did NOFX and MXPX.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Andcas you admitted that no pop punk guitarist could come close to make Angel's top 100 guitarist's list, besides Johnny Ramone who was 100th. There were alot of alternative acts on that list. I mean you admit the musicianship is bad. So the only thing really holding pop punk together is the catchiness, and like I said I can care less for that most of the time.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	I wish people would use the phrase "couldn't care less" correctly.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Gay wish then
AsoTamaki 06.30.12	Uh, Creed also has "experimentation" and much better musicianship than your average pop punk band. I don't know why you had to dilute your point like that.
bungy 06.30.12	He obviously thinks too highly of himself
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Yea you're actually right Aso. I like Alter Bridge so Tremonti could obviously play much better than any pop punk band. See Alter Bridge is a good example actually. They are catchy but at the same time Tremonti is a good player, especially for a mainstream band.
bungy 06.30.12	Enjoying music>caring about how good they are at their instruments. Lol at only listening to interesting things. Energy and emotion are more important
bungy 06.30.12	Who. Gives. A. Shit. How. Good. They. Are?
bungy 06.30.12	Lol alterbridge
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Alot of people do apparently. See I can listen to a shit load of bands with "energy and emotion" who are also just much better and more interesting musicians. Jimi Hendrix is catchy as fuck and hed put any pop punk band to shame on the giddy. And the dude died like 10 years before pop punk was even a thing.
bungy 06.30.12	oh my god your points suck
mindleviticus 06.30.12	cinematic sunrise
AsoTamaki 06.30.12	"And the dude died like 10 years before pop punk was even a thing." Yeah, seriously. Imagine what he could've done for the genre if he were around.
bungy 06.30.12	"And the whole point of alternative music was to be different aka ALTERNATIVE" EVERY NEW GENRE IS DIFFERENT THEY JUST COULDN'T THINK OF ANYTHING CREATIVE TO CALL IT
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Bungy find me a pop punk band as creative as Faith No More, Radiohead, My Bloody Valentine, Pixies, Sonic Youth, Rage Against The Machine, Dinosaur Jr, Yo La Tengo, Big Black, and all those late 80s/early 90s little doozies. The music always comes first to me. Which is why I can listen to death/black metal and not understand one word the dude is fuckin saying because the music is great. Thats the exact opposite of pop punk which is vocally driven but boring musically.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	I really dont understand the fuss. Pop punk has shitty musicians and I like to hear guys that can play more than 4 chords. The original punks were just mad they couldnt play as well as Genesis and Led Zep. Its always been like this between metal/rock/prog guys and punk guys. You're usually on one corner or the other. This is why its rare on this site that a person has both punk and metal in their pie chart. Maybe some hardcore/post hardcore but I dont see too much green and black together. Cuz if metalheads want to hear fast crunchy riffs theyd rather hear stuff other than just power chords, and the punk guys probably think theres too much "wank" in metal and not enough catchiness or whatever.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	You just sound old as fuck and stuck in your ways. /end
Satellite 06.30.12	yankeedudel each comment of yours is more retarded than the last. there is no point to you.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Idk I think I make total sense and you're just too slow to think of a response. Just admit that pop punk has the worst musicians and we cool. No biggie.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Holy fuck Yankee = sputniks newest most stupid and ignorant user
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yankee are fucking retarded. We had this discussion already. Musicianship isn't everything. And if you truly think it is then fuckinglol have a nice life enjoying music bitch
Satellite 06.30.12	i wouldn't throw around that title so lightly, but damn if he's not trying.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Btw Yankee look at my piechart
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Idk satty man he's been like for a awhile. But he really stated his stupidity in this thread
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Chuck you like Memphis May Fire. Thats even worse than pop punk. And for fucks sake I never said musicianship is everything. Im saying that better musicians have more options as a band. If you're a fuckin guitarist or drummer and can only play power chords and basic beats thats not going to leave you many ways to go. You're going to have to rely on your "catchiness" and be a lame pop punk band. As if no other genres can be catchy or "emotional".
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	You don't know if that's all they can play fucking lol. And yeah I like MMF cuz its fun and catchy holy fucking shit strike me down God what a concept
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	You like Periphery too wow you suck dont ya?
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yeah now your nearly contradicting yourself because Periphery is very complex musically. But yeah dude keep on attacking my taste cause I really don't care. I'm not a fucking pos elitist and I like what I like. I feel bad for you man, stuck in the past and you don't really know anything about music.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Fuck yeah Tomas 2 votes m/ Btw sup budddday
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Uh oh the butt buddies are here
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Chuck Periphery is the worst of both worlds. They're wanky and not even catchy. They're just fuckin horrible.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	And I think he still hates on Oh Sleeper lol what a tool. Only one of the best modern metalcore bands along with MS, converge, abr, dshs and some other I can't name of the top of my head. Oh yeah and underoath and maybe amia idk I don't like them too much harlots is better
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Lol they aren't at all wanky dude hahaha. And yeah not very catchy I'll agree but your still sputniks newest stupidest and most ignorant user
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Ha I dont. Im saying for you fuckheads who do. I cant see one reason to think Periphery is anything more than an average band with a lot of holes. And Oh Sleeper sucks too Chuck. Sorry.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	He hates periphery and likes BtBaM??!?!!?! Hahahha what a fucking hypocrite. Well yeah converge is modern cuz they are still active and are still recordng even tho they started forever ago
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Pretty much Tomas pretty much
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Yea I dont really like gay sounding cleans. I dont know how you guys can stomach Memphis May Fire and Pierce The Veil. They make Dave Mustaine sound like Dio.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	And no, Oh Sleeper is wonderful.
jdennis31 06.30.12	don't really feel like arguing, but will say that i disagree with "The only thing these bands can rely on is perhaps a catchy chorus" a lot of pop punk bands are incredibly catchy throughout an entire song, and although it may not be a good thing to rely on catchyness, at least they can keep it interesting for a whole song. that's really hard for me to say about any other genre, even though pop punk isn't a particular favorite.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Cuz we aren't pretentious bastards lol
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yea man. If modern was new bands then just forget I said converge and all is good
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Joe makes a great point. Rock on joe rock on
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Ha Im the least pretentious dude on here. I just happen to not like horrendously gay sounding vocals.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Lol obviously not man
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	I cant go from Maynard to that fag Spencer
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Aint happnin brah
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Hey Yankee search this on YouTube: Cartel - Honestly They guitarists are actually pretty good. Bass tone is very nice too. You might enjoy it but idk I don't have much hope for you
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Tool is boring for the most part
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Neither of you twits have punk or pop punk in your pie charts. Core shit doesnt count. Why not? Its cuz you agree with me. Dont be shy.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Tool is boring but Periphery rocks. Gotcha.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	No it's cuz I don't listen to of it. I agree with as little as possible with you man
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yes. Mind = blown. Have you even heard Racecar?
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Fucking lol Tomas
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	And why dont you listen to it fuckhead?
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Because I have an adept love for metal and as a metal guitarist that's kinds what I focus on man sorry dude but hey try again next time
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Oh you know the 7 bands everyone knows. Good job. I listen to those too. But why dont you listen to it more? Its okay. Let it out.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Tomas knows punk much better than me I will admit.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Chuck you just agreed with me then. You find metal playing more interesting to play and listen to, and thus you listen to it over punk. Thanks for playing!!
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	I just told you 'fuckhead' Yankee arent you like 30 or something?
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Nope. Pop punk is completely different. And I never said metal was more interesting either but thanks for putting words in my text box for me queer. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy pop punk a lot just cuz I mostly listen to metal
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Chuck you agreed with me and dont even realize it. How stupid can you be.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	No I did not agree haha. Stop assuming things you jackass. Now again, arent you 30 or something?
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yes please leave
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	You're owning what? Metalcore isnt punk/pop punk you diltch.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Just cuz I have good taste doesnt mean I have to be 30+. Maybe you'll learn one day that Tool is the best band on the planet.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Metalcore has punk fuckwit. Now how the fuck old are you bitch
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	'good taste' Taste in music is 110% subjective. Now stop being a pretentious bastard
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Flutter you said you're "owning" me. The fuck you talking about then lol.
MeatSalad 06.30.12	rory - we're up to no good, we're up to no good
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	I am actually flattered that you're calling me pretentious. Thats a high honor.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	This is still happening.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Even dubstep Korn is better than Periphery, Memphis May Gay, and Pierce My Cunt yea
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	And shallow did I mention that lol
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	"Even dubstep Korn is better than Periphery, Memphis May Gay, and Pierce My Cunt yea" Bahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahaha your gonna get piles of shit forever
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Flutter I asked you a simple fuckin question. Why dont you listen to punk/pop punk over what you mainly listen to now. Its the easiest question in the world and your dumbass cant answer it without agreeing with me. Its okay hun.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Its obvious you dont like it as much. And I want to know why See I make it nice and simple for you youngns
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Flutter even if you did listen to punk alot, which you dont, you still listen to it much less than metalcore, post hardcore, metal, post rock, and all that shit. Just answer why that is.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Hey Tomas go look at my name on my profile page
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Still happening.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	You just called post-rock shit. Die
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	its hilarious how you guys are so scared of answering the question straight up. Stop being pussies.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Hahah ikr
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Flutter and why are you more interested in other genres?
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	I LIKE POP PUNK AND METAL AND METALCORE AND HARDCORE AND POST ROCK AND ALL OF THAT JUICY STUFF. BUT I PLAY METAL GUITAR THEREFORE I LISTEN TO MORE METAL. ALL OF THE SAID GENRES ARE ALL EQUAL IN MY EYES. I CANNOT BE MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD YANKEE. YOU ARE A DUMBASS. Ok thanks
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	THIS IS STILL HAPPENING THOUGH. MAKE IT STOP. IT'S A FRIDAY NIGHT, HAVE A DRINK AND LISTEN TO POP PUNK.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	You guys really are pussies. How sad. Afraid to say it.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Usually when 9/10 people(in this case, 10/10 people) call you a fucking retard, you're fucking retarded. Yankee, please "accidentally" fall head first from a 10 story building.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	I just fucking said it can you even read yankee? Do you still live with your mother? I don't think you have the intelligence to live on your own
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Chuck why dont you play punk guitar and listen to more punk instead?
ConcubinaryCode 06.30.12	You guys just need to chill. Music is meant to bring people together, not rip them apart.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Heheh Yankee Pit is here and he's a stern mofo so good luck man
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	THE JAMS. No one is a pussy, everyone here has clearly taken the time to invest in your bullshit criticism with valid remarks that eliminate everything you've said from being credible. Although, I stopped paying attention to you when you called Rancid pop punk.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Because I like junz
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Oh we got Pit in this bitch!!!!
MO 06.30.12	lol this thread
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Chuck just say it man. SAY IT. Its okay you've been exposed.
Calc 06.30.12	^ now let it continue this is an endurance battle from this point
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yeah I love metal what else is there to say
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	I'm just going to keep listening to what Fluttertank posted and drinking wine. The amount of stupidity spewing from this post is intolerable.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Endurance? I don't work til 2 so I'm game
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	You love metal more than punk right?
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Chuck, you don't love metal. You love shit. Yankee, I think it's time you hung up the gloves and called it quits. Just like a boxer, I hope you die from your brain damage.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Pop Punk especially.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Hey Djenhunty listen to Cartel for awesome pop punk
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	I LOVE MUSIC AND WINE YOU GUYS. YOU GUYS, REALLY. Just stop giving him the attention.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Oh, Cartel is old as hell, saw them live.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Pit I will deal with you later. But Yankee, how many other good bands/genres dont you like?
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Meh Idc they are awesome
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Deal with me later? By how? Saying you don't care and then arguing for 6 hours? I don't have time for that.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Good.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Flutter and Chuck. One more time. Why dont you like pop punk and punk more than metal, metalcore, post hardcore, and hardcore? Give simple reasons and we can all go home.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Not you flutter, mainly Yankee.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Omg you are so slow yankee. I've told you like 5 times. -_-
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	"Flutter and Chuck. One more time. Why dont you like pop punk and punk more than metal, metalcore, post hardcore, and hardcore? Give simple reasons and we can all go home." Has to be the dumbest question I've ever seen asked on the internet. I think it's called personal taste, but I might be reaching....
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	And there is a reason for that. Isnt there ol Fluts?
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	NO ONE NEEDS TO GIVE YOU A REASON FOR SOMETHING THEY PREFER. YOU FUCKIN' MORON, SCIENTIFICALLY EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT MUSIC PREFERENCE DUE TO THE WAY THE FREQUENCIES EFFECT BRAIN CHEMISTRY. NOW GET OFF MY FUCKING LAWN.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	And people can clearly explain their personal taste, like I did. Its not that hard to say why you like and dont like something is it Pit ol pal?
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yeah at least arguing with Pit is interesting cuz he's smart. With Yankee it's like talking to a wall
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	"And people can clearly explain their personal taste, like I did. Its not that hard to say why you like and dont like something is it Pit ol pal?" It's not that hard to explain. You should be able to answer that question yourself, but I guess common sense is too much to ask of you, huh?
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Pit you're always making fun of everyone for what they listen to. You're tellin me you cant say what you dont like about something? Is that too hard for you?
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	It's called brain chemistry and frequencies. Seriously, someone please read a book.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yeah but Yankee you dis on stuff all day cuz its "not technical enough" and "makes me sleepy cuz I'm a fuckin wall"
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	I hate this thread.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	I make fun of people for what they listen to for the simple fact it brings me a laugh. Nothing I do is serious. You, on the other hand, are dead serious, and that's even worse.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	It is
AsoTamaki 06.30.12	Excellent thread so far, guys. Keep up the pace.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Haha tomas make ur last post ur name hahah
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Sorry it's edited
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Can't wait for Yankee to jump on Sputnik tomorrow and claim he was just joking.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Ha now we're bring science into it. No man. People might say they like pop music because its fun, catchy, they can sing along easily, and dance to it. Those are simple reasons why. They might also say why they dont like metal. Ive had many of my girl pop music friends tell me why they dont like metal in my life, so clearly somebody can give easy reasons why they dont like something. Its not that difficult to apply it to punk like I did. And then we can end this.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	The: Yankee bro, suck a cock Lol
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yeah and we gave you reasons
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Frank at this point Im having a nice laugh myself watching Flutter and Chuck completely avoid the question.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	No you didnt. You came in this thread and starting yelling. Then when I confront you you bitch out.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yankee you are seriously very very retarded. Stop ignoring what is right in front of your fucking eyes
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Omg.... So stupid
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Flutter what was your answer again? What was your answer why you dont like punk and pop punk as much? All you keep saying is personal preference. Thats not an answer. I want to know why thats your preference. Are you that stupid where you cant answer that?
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	The fact that you're begging for an explanation as to why people can't dig a certain genre of music proves that you're a complete tool. You have this serious delusion that you're an elitist when you're really just a dumb fuck. The only explanation someone needs for not liking a genre is that they just don't like it. I don't enjoy a lot of dubstep/electronic music(most of it in fact), but I honestly don't know why. It just doesn't appeal to me. Now shut the fuck up, put on your footed pajamas, brush your teeth, and go to bed. You're done.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	If I asked you why you dont like ketchup as much as mustard, you would say why. Mustard might be too spicy. See how this works? Im a good teacher.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Hook line and sinker
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Hahahhaha comparing mustard to music ok dilchqueef
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	"Flutter what was your answer again? What was your answer why you dont like punk and pop punk as much? All you keep saying is personal preference. Thats not an answer. I want to know why thats your preference. Are you that stupid where you cant answer that?" That IS an answer, you fucking moron. Are you fucking this dense? Why do you need an "explanation" so bad? Are you that much of a fucking idiot? Sometimes there isn't an explanation. No one really has to justify their taste to anyone in the first place. You just want to to be right, but you don't realize that no matter what you or anyone says you've etched yourself a spot in Sputnik infamy as a complete and utter shit-for-brains moron. If you had any respect on this website in the first place, it's fucking gone with the wind, so quit before it gets even worse.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Frank if you cant say why then you're just as dumb as them. Ill tell you why I dont like brostep. Because its repetitive. Every song has 3 drops that all sound like robots taking shits. And anybody with a macbook can make a dumbass brostep remix. See? There.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	YO BRO, LET ME PUT THIS SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND. IT'S LIKE BILL NYE THE SCIENE GUY, YOU THROW SO SPECIFIC MUSIC LEVELS AT A BRAIN, THE LIQUID IN THE BRAIN GETS ALL MIXED UP AND THEN BAM YOU DEVELOP A PERSONAL PREFERENCE. FOR REAL BRO, LIKE FOR REAL. Why are you still on my lawn... ?
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Comparing the physical sense of taste to personal taste in music is fucking erroneous. Time to push away from the computer.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	I cant believe we're on a MUSIC website and people cant tell me why they dont like something. Isnt that was we do every fuckin day here? Rate shit. Say what we liked and didnt like about it. Am I in bizarro land?
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Seriously Yankee stop. Pit made perfect points and Tomas and I both supplied out reasons despite you ignoring them. You know why I don't like black metal? Cuz I don't. There how do you feel about that
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	"pop punk/punk doesn't have hardcore vocals. doesn't have the guitar work of Misery Signals or Shai Hulud. doesn't have ambiance like Post-rock. and thats why i dont listen to pop punk/punk as much as other genres. there is that what you want" YESSSSSSSSSSS How fuckin hard was that huh? Good job!!
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yeah too bad we told you that 10 times Yankee
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Nah Flutter isnt stupid after all. So you dont like it as much for pretty much the same reasons as me. Wow glad we could end this little shabang.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	I can't believe that you're such a pretentious bag of dicks, go back to your home on whore island.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Tomas was never stupid.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Flutter you and Chuck came in here ready to argue but yet you feel the exact same way. Thats the fuckin kicker here. You started an argument for no fucking reason.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Yankee's suck.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Actually you started the argument with andcas Yankee. It's al your fault. You started the whole goddamn thing
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	"Holy fuck Yankee = sputniks newest most stupid and ignorant user" "oh man i fucking hate yankee so much. i vote him sputniks newest most stupid and ignorant user" See thats not very nice to say to somebody you agree with when you pop into a thread. It only took you fuckers hundreds of comments to realize. Sheesh!!
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	You guys are mean man. Really mean. We're practically all the same person!!
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Just proves that not everyone is born with common sense.
Calc 06.30.12	and the flames of passion dwindle into smouldering embers of..some word less strong then passion
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yeah well Yankee I bet you feel pretty silly as a 30 year old calling a 17 and 18 year old fuckheads over the Internet
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Nah man we're all bros. We have something in common now.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Never has a mother regretted not having an abortion as much as she does now.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	We all realize that pop punk is an inferior genre.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	I hope someone reads my comments and appreciates them.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	You'll be staff in no time. Keep it up!!
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yeah I got tons haha. Uhm no pop punk is without a doubt the most fun genre
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yeah for me Yellowcard, Cartel and Mayday Parade
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	"You'll be staff in no time. Keep it up!!" And you'll be dead in no time from suicide. Keep it up!!
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Lol
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Flutter I have alot of punk too. I never said its worthless. I jammed to Green Day and Offspring when I was a tike. But its just not as interesting than other genres to me. That simple. Alot of people dont like pop punk so this isnt some random event. I like some of it but not even close to as much as metal and the likes. For reasons we all stated so eloquently.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Mayday parade is the bees knees. I will never understand that phrase.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	"Flutter I have alot of punk too. I never said its worthless. I jammed to Green Day and Offspring when I was a tike" Oh the hilarity in that statement.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Pit it was nice of you to drop in man Im jamming Killswitch now in your honor m/
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Lol djehuty me either
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Green Day still the best pop punk band ever yup. Flutter were you even born when Dookie came out?
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Wtf. Is he a ass kisser or what
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Instead of Killswitch, you should jam a giant spear into your rectum and twist it around until you're sure you've punctured your intestinal walls.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yeah you actually were Tomas lol
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Shit Pit can be graphic ouch
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	"Green Day still the best pop punk band ever yup." Then you obviously haven't listened to much punk, because Social Distortion and the Descendents blow Green Day out of the water.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	So you're a post Dookie kid. Big milestone in music there.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Hah well ur 18 so yeah probs Haha. I was like half a year after
GuanoBumbershoot 06.30.12	Pardon my intrusion...I'm pickled drunk, but you know what goes good with being pickled drunk... Pop-punk.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Dude I saw Social D in november
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Franky thanks for the obvious tip!
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	"So you're a post Dookie kid. Big milestone in music there." Not really. That album was spurned by everyone in the punk community outside of the mainstream. While Dookie was a solid album, it is nowhere near as groundbreaking as your feeble mind makes it out to be.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Lol. But yeah Social D was pretty damn good in concert especially after all these years
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	I'm having a fall out boy sing along.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Mike Ness is still the man.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Hey Frank we actually share some 5s and I have a bunch of your 5s as 4.5s too. Man you have good taste. Keep up the good work.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Stop kissing my ass. It's pathetic.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Frank I was like 5 when Dookie came out. I just danced around my room to Basket Case in my tie dye summer camp shirt. I didnt give a poop what the punk community thought and still dont WHAT UP
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yeah dude he was fantastic
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Your nose has become a strange shade of brown, yankee.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Frank I actually think wed be really good friends in real life
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Yankee, your age doesn't matter. I don't know why that seems to be a selling point for your argument. And nothing you're saying is supporting your point that Green Day is the best pop-punk band ever. Please prove your points as to why.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Lmao
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	No, Yankee, we wouldn't. You're probably too fat to even get out of your computer chair.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	300th comment Edit: fuck pit stole it
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	CHUCK I WAS GONNA DO THAT
jdennis31 06.30.12	wow. monster thread. watch one episode of the wire and 100+ comments
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Haha pit got it anyway lolz
GuanoBumbershoot 06.30.12	Me and frank share some 5's too, and I think he's a belligerent, calloused scrotum freckle.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Frank we all know you have the smallest wang on this site. Thats why you're always angry at scene kids for stealing your bitches.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Meow.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	And now that's he's been denied he's back on the offense
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	I think Frank is just misunderstood Guano. Inside hes a marshmellow.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	So you are fat? Hey, pull yourself away from your mayonnaise and bacon fat sandwich for a few minutes and do a pull up. It might help;.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	He just needs love like all of us. Sometimes the ol right hand doesnt come thru enough.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	God, I'm drunk and now I really want a sandwich.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Tomas I just realized I should so be a Sputnik argument commentator hahah
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Frank pullin out fat jokes when he knows nothing about me. Hes gettin creative now uh oh!!
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Poor guy can't think of anything besides small dick jokes and jerking off. Projecting your inadequacies upon other people is like a midget reaching for something on the top shelf: you can't help but chuckle.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Someone make me a sandwich.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Hahah this is good now. I knew Yankee couldn't hold a candle to pit
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	I dunno. Yankee goes from basically sticking his nose so far up my ass that he's milking my prostate to using small dick jokes, all because I made the assumption that he's a 450 lb lazy fat fuck who couldn't stand up with the help of a crane and some bacon grease. Seems like I struck a nerve.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Want a blt djehuty?
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	I'd say so
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Flutter arent like 5 feet tall? No wonder you are so angry. You guys wanna post pics now? You all prolly look like chodes.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	And you probably look like you've had one too many bowls of ice cream.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	And now he's attacking others since he's realized arguing pit is futile
GuanoBumbershoot 06.30.12	Frank IS a marshmellow. One that's been roasting on the fire for too long; he's all the more amusing for it.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Want a bit of what? I want a BLT.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Sorry, I don't know what a marshmellow is guys. Forgive me.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	TIT OR GTFO
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Okay I'll call jimmy john's 4 u
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Someone on xbox ordered me a pizza and it was delivered to my house once, true story.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Frank post a pic of yourself. Im getting a host site up now. I wanna see why you're so mad
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	I guess Yankee got his hand stuck trying to scrape the last bit of flavoring from his Pringles can. Yeah, I got this chick to order me a pizza one time online because I sent her a dick pic. Pizza never tasted so delicious.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Follow me on twitter you sluts. https://twitter.com/universaldogma
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Woah awesome
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Lol I'm not mad at all. I just like making fun of someone I can hear breathing and wheezing from over 10 miles away.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	SEND DICK PICS.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	I don't know, he's talking about dick pics.
pcar 06.30.12	why are they not well known if they're pop punk
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	We Still Dream is awesome, just saying.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	I'll give Yankee $5 if he can lift up his stomach folds enough to find his penis.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	No one new is following me on twitter, you're all fired from life.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	http://www.1000uglypeople.com/photos/Ugly-Men/173.jpg There you go
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Fuck.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	It's so tiny.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	I don't use twitter. I don't see the point. And Yankee, I'll make it $8, because god knows you will want to Super-size it.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	and bro-ish.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Aww yankee your such a fucking faggot
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Took you that long to find a pic of you, Yankee? Who's Facebook did you steal it off of?
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Fresh as fuck cut. We came in 2nd place. Pity. Alot of beer though.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Is what a pic of me? My twitter? No, I just role play and post fake accounts all over the internet.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Yankee, you're such a bro hoe.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Your turn Frankie boy. Hand is on dick as we speak. MMMMMM
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	No, not really. That was called sarcasm.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Why do you want to see me so bad? Must be some type of gay.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Yo has anyone asked who this Djehuty guy is this whole time? Hey man Im happy you joined in on our shenanigans.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Our shenanigans? I love how you're basically trying to brush this off as you just having fun.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Frank dont be ashamed of your double chin and acne issue. This is a love only zone.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Yes Flutter.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Djehuty is a nice lady who is currently drinking sangria and listening to converge
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	It doesn't matter who I am, I'm just here for the free pizza.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Franky Im waiting hun
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	stalk me bb.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	"Frank dont be ashamed of your double chin and acne issue. This is a love only zone." Wow, you've gone from dick jokes to using my jokes. For someone who thinks he's elite, you're sure lacking in originality. And if you must see, here's my facebook http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002317433688.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Its getting sweaty in here
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	OH MY GOD THAT LITTLE GIRL IS SO CUTE IN HER DIVA GLASSES.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Nice kid. She urs?
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Yeah, I'm sure it is. It takes a lot of energy someone of your size doesn't have to find someone else's pic on Facebook that you think we'd respect. I don't give you permission to copy that joke.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	yes, she's mine
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	She looks like a mini snooki
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Yankee, why haven't you started drinking bleach yet?
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	So do you, Yankee.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Because he's too busy popping his blackheads.
Satellite 06.30.12	hi pit
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Sup Satty? How's life?
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Frank I know you want another picture of me but all you had to do was shout me bro if you wanna get down like that
Satellite 06.30.12	not bad. looking for a new apartment. how are things down there?
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Why would I want another picture of "you?" You have this scary desire for every guy to know how you look. Trying to seek approval from men? Unless you're really homosexual, shouldn't you be looking for that validation from females?
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	I posted my pic in the last sputnik picture thread I think if you wanna dig for some treasure ;)
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Perfectly well. Stopped drinking, took a break from the internet for a while, been working my ass off, getting my neighbor arrested for smoking crack in the stairwell. Wonderful life.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	All this hostility makes me need a nap.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Yeah, I'm about to crash soon as well. beach day tomorrow.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Nah Frank you just dont believe that I really am a handsome bro that would knock you out in the pit. Just tellin you Im all natural. Just for you.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Frank did you marry a mexican chick?
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Knock me out in the pit? Wow, you're such a bad ass. Lol is that some type of threat? Pretty pathetic threat, considering you're on the internet and all.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	I'm going to the beach too! :)
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yankee is clearly delusional
Satellite 06.30.12	smoking crack in a stairwell is pretty bleak. you probably did yr neighbor a favor.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	No, I married half-black, half-Cuban. Wanna make a racist comment? Not only is he fat, a liar, and a future alcoholic, but he's also racist.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Yeah, I thought so, Satty. I live in a pretty decent neighborhood, so it was a bit of a shocker, but that was 3 weeks ago and his apartment has been boarded up.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	It's 2012, only shitty ignorant bros make racist comments.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Only shitty, ignorant bros talk about knocking someone out in the pit. Oh, I'm such a bad ass! I won't one-on-one fight you, but I'll take a cheap shot at you in the pit! You hear that, internet? I'm such a tough guy!
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Eh, he's a shitty user anyway, so it doesn't matter.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Pit had fun. Yankee embarrassed himself. He'll understand.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Haha I shoutboxed him a couple hours ago apologizing for the mess haha
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yep.
YankeeDudel 06.30.12	Alright Im out fellas. Best night of my life. Thanks for sharing!! PS Fuck Pop Punk and all of you
Inveigh 06.30.12	wait Yankee weren't you the dude that said he'd never met anyone who'd even heard of Opeth until you were in your 20s?
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Thanks bro have a nice life in solitude with your pringles!
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Hahah yep was to your post before ur question
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	You're all shitty users. Except Inveigh and I. Yankee thinks we can't see through his charade.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Even satty is shitty? Harsh
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yeah graham loves me so it's all good
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Nah, Satty's not shitty. I forgot about him. Chuck, you're slightly above Yankee and Progmaster.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Who in the fuck is graham? Stop acting like you know everyone on a personal basis.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	It's kind of creepy and almost seems needy.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	I'm not ranking every user. There's a bottom 5 and that's all that matters.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Shit I'm pretty low. Oh well. Sorry I just like referring to everyone by their actual name. Graham = silentpotato
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Aww fuck I'm one of those bottom 5
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	awee i'm shitty :c
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Silentpotato? Lol. Sputnik respects potsy about as much as Democrats respect George Bush.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yah cuz he wasn't voted best user just a few months ago lol
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Not really. I don't mind him, but his opinions are hilariously bad.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Lol there was a vote for best user? Who in the fuck voted for best user?
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	I rule.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Everybody who is somewhat active on the site. Look at sowing's lists
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	It was a legit thing pit. It was while you weren't using sputnik
Inveigh 06.30.12	lol it was just sputnik madness, it's been done every year since like the beginning of time. first chan did it, then sea for a year or two, and now sowing does it
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	"It would be foolish to say that some of his momentum wasn't a result of ironic voting, but he is clearly a well-liked user and his title is deserved" Notice the inclusion of "ironic voting." Sputnik madness is a joke thing that has been done pretty much every year. It's never serious, and the user who wins usually wins because people think it's funny(which it is sometimes).
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Ahhh. I haven't been here long enough to know
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Well still - its safe to say that not everyone on the site hates him
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Not everyone, but he's been banned as almost as much as I have, if not more than. He's just lucky enough to be able to keep his user name.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	I hate everyone on this site.
Deviant. 06.30.12	Just read this entire thing WHY??
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	Frank, that's what you call infamous.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Yea. So who is the bottom 5 pit
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	I don't know Deviant, why did you waste a half hour of your life doing that?
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	HAHAHA Dev. You should know better by now. Chuck, why does it matter? The other two have disappeared from the site.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	You read the ENTIRE thing?? Holy wow. Why? What a waste if time
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	I was just wondering tbh.
Deviant. 06.30.12	In summary: after the 200th comment, things started to get a little redundant
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	This is because Yankee is retarded
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	You know me, Dev. I can't quit on a good argument.
Deviant. 06.30.12	Don't worry: I'm the same
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	So wait I am in the bottom 5?! Fuck
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Chuck proving once again that he doesn't care about my opinion.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	No that's not what I'm getting at actually.
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	What, then, are you getting at?
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	I was honestly just purely curious. Cuz well nvm
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	Way to prove my point.
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	The point is, it's not me not caring about your opinion.
TheDjehuty 06.30.12	THIS IS OVER NOW. /end
FrankRedHot 06.30.12	You saying that is still not helping your cause. You see, when you don't care about someone else's opinion, you drop it and move on. You're doing the complete opposite.
MeatSalad 06.30.12	Oh god what the fuck is happening
bungy 06.30.12	bungy returns to thread drunk has nothing substantial to say
Satellite 06.30.12	drunk satellite sees that bungy has commented on thread is disappointed
bungy 06.30.12	bungy wonders how uncle Tyler dealt with his mid-life crisis since he is old Refuses to talk in 1st person
Satellite 06.30.12	that's it, you're outta the will
jdennis31 06.30.12	haha, i just read this entire thing too. kinda felt bad and embarassed for yankee until he tried to casually take shots at family members. what an ass
ChuckyTruant 06.30.12	Pit you read my post wrong goofball