cryMore
06.07.12 | List is stuff I recently checked out |
ThroneOfAgony
06.07.12 | ok |
camaraderie
06.07.12 | 3 is pretty terrible |
MO
06.07.12 | seeing it friday in theatres
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cryMore
06.07.12 | yo Riff, what about Spiderman?
3 isn't that bad, just not as good as their ep |
MO
06.07.12 | ^ I guarantee the new spiderman will be better than the shit toby mcguire ones...that being said it won't be that great |
klap
06.07.12 | its out in the UK |
Gmork89
06.07.12 | Django Unchained |
BassDemon333
06.07.12 | seeing it at midnight tonight, can't wait. I doubt it will suck. |
Buzzkillr
06.07.12 | Prometheus is great. |
ApplicationToHeaven
06.07.12 | yeah it was awful |
cryMore
06.07.12 | The visual effects are fantastic, but thats it |
theacademy
06.07.12 | better or worse than AVP |
klap
06.07.12 | trick question nothing's better than AVP |
MO
06.07.12 | hahaha come on now avp is a funny mess, it has its moments |
Evreaia
06.07.12 | It wasn't bad
Best film of the year (so far) still is Cabin in the woods thought (that movie shits all over all others, even the avengers). |
Buzzkillr
06.07.12 | Yeah...no.
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ApplicationToHeaven
06.07.12 | it was bad, the characters were ridiculous cliches, and the plot didnt make any sense.. but i guess
maybe that isnt relevant in action movies??? |
MMX
06.07.12 | I still go see it just because I am fanboy for anything that involves the Aliens franchise |
Evreaia
06.07.12 | Yes Andcas, 1. |
Evreaia
06.07.12 | If you mean Aliens, like in the movie aliens. Else it's more (some new ones). |
Evreaia
06.07.12 | yeah the alien from alien (lol). There's 1 . |
wabbit
06.07.12 | toby mcguire is actually the most perfect spiderman you could get. People who say the first two movies suck need to get their heads checked.
I'm going to the midnight show tonight. It looks fucking gorgeous and apparently the score is amazing but I dunno how good the plot/ characters are going to be. |
cryMore
06.07.12 | What I'd like to know is how that 1 alien even came to be, made no sense to me |
evilford
06.07.12 | AVP was the best movie ever.
and by best movie ever, I mean it was a horrible movie and complete waste of time and money |
Trebor.
06.07.12 | Was gonna see at midnight but it's only in faggot 3D |
Evreaia
06.07.12 | Trebor the 3D sucks big time |
MMX
06.07.12 | AVP Is the best movie ever though....
AVP2 is pretty lol worthy |
Hyperion1001
06.07.12 | yeah fuck 3d i hope my shit theatre doesnt play it in 3d
seeing it tomorrow night if and of you cunts ruin it for me i will hunt you down |
cryMore
06.07.12 | okay no spoilers |
wabbit
06.07.12 | Yeah 3D sucks. I am curious to see if the hobbit will have good 3D as a result of being shot at 60fps instead of 24. |
MMX
06.07.12 | but the Xenomorph Predator Hybrid is fucking stupid as hell
and at least AVP1 had the Queen |
MMX
06.07.12 | I'll give you the sleigh part though |
Trebor.
06.07.12 | It appears my theaters will only be playing 3D for now
So fuck my life basically
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MMX
06.07.12 | The only movies where the predator doesn't get completely fucked are Predator & Predator 2 |
Trebor.
06.07.12 | Alien 3 and 4 and the AVP movies never happened, if you disagree you are wrong |
FlyntFlossy
06.07.12 | I heard Charlize Theron gets raped by a space jockey. |
MMX
06.07.12 | It is Bullshit. They Make the predators out to be the ultimate Hunter.
In AVP when they shown the scene of the 3 on top they already killed thousands of aliens.
Then once the 4 of them enter the temple under the ice they get raped by like 6 aliens tops |
FlyntFlossy
06.07.12 | It was only 3 predators in the temple and 2 of them got killed right off the bat by 1 alien. |
klap
06.07.12 | i don't like 3D but i have heard that it actually looks good in prometheus |
MO
06.07.12 | well prometheus was shot in 3d so it would, but I friggin' hate the 3d gimmick |
MMX
06.07.12 | Could have swore it was 4 predators, but whateva. The Point is a single Predator should be able to
take on thousands of aliens and WIN, but in every movie they get completely fucked by only a few
aliens |
Camstr
06.07.12 | all about TDKR this year nothing else matters [2] |
evilford
06.07.12 | the bottom line is both franchises are in a point now where the primary goal is to crank out money/sequel generating movies. so from the start these movies are doomed to be retarded wastes of time that guarantee revenue and no substance.
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Evreaia
06.07.12 | Fuck you, the hobbit matters too |
Hyperion1001
06.07.12 | i though alien resurrection was just ok |
Hyperion1001
06.07.12 | for pure entertainment value it was better than 3 thats for sure |
MMX
06.07.12 | The human Alien hybrid was fucking stupid.
All the Alien Hybrids are fucking stupid |
bloc
06.07.12 | Seeing it on Sunday hopefully |
BassDemon333
06.07.12 | As long as I get some closure on the space jockey and how the Aliens came to be its all good. The movie looks fucking great though, then again I'm an Alien franchise fanboy |
Trebor.
06.07.12 | They are the aliens who either created or just hosted the xenomorphes, but the xenomorphes killed them or something, that's all speculation though
All you see in the first Alien movie is this huge fucking dead alien with it's chest open called the space jockey |
FlyntFlossy
06.07.12 | The space jockeys created the xenomorphs to wage war on the predators. |
Trebor.
06.07.12 | The thing that confuses people is the movie is called Alien and not Xenomorph, so when you mention the other alien race the space jockey it's like what? |
Trebor.
06.07.12 | Flynt that shit is not canon we already went over this
The predator movie didn't even exist when Ridley Scott came up with this shit |
Trebor.
06.07.12 | The space jockey existed before the xenomorphes, they are like an ancient alien or some shit |
klap
06.07.12 | its just another alien. and the whole premise of prometheus (not a spoiler, evident in the previews) is that the crew of the prometheus goes on this whole journey because there is evidence that the human race was created by another (alien, ostensibly the space jockey) race. so not too ridiculous by sci-fi standards |
FlyntFlossy
06.07.12 | I heard that if you look in the mirror and say xenomorph 3 times, a space jockey shows up behind you and knocks over all your shampoo and conditioner. |
rockandmetaljunkie
06.07.12 | Saw the film today. I left the room slightly dissapointed because the scenario had some obvious connections with the Alien franchise. It wouldn't had bothered me if it was a prequel. But since Scoot informed us that it will be a separate trilogy i can't say it looks like one. |
OneMoreRoland
06.07.12 | Im tryna see it at midnight and have unusually high hopes for it. I really hope i'm not disappointed
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Trebor.
06.07.12 | Cuz it's called Prometheus
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klap
06.07.12 | i read a review where the reviewer was like, what if dolly the sheep could talk and ask us why we cloned a sheep. we'd probably be like "because we could." |
MMX
06.07.12 | Space Jockey 1 "Let's make the perfect killing machine"
Space Jockey 2 "Great idea what will we call it?"
Space Jockey 1 "mmmmmm THE ALIEN"
Space Jockey 2 *facepalm* "FUCKING IDIOT! Well Call it a Xenomorph cus ya know that sounds badass and shit"
I would like to think the creating of Xenomporhs went something like this |
klap
06.07.12 | i don't know, why does anyone create anything |
PayneTiger777
06.07.12 | I watched Aliens last night with a bunch of friends so I could get psyched to see Prometheus. Hicks and Hudson are the shit. |
Trebor.
06.07.12 | They were created to be a weapon probably |
BugZoid
06.08.12 | I can't wait to see Prometheus. I'll admit the reviews have been making me nervous, but I have high hopes. I still don't understand the hype behind Cabin in the Woods. Clever? Sure, speaking from a purely plot/written script standpoint. But the movie itself.. I wouldn't recommend it to my worst enemy. |
MO
06.08.12 | just finished it
awesome flick |
mindleviticus
06.08.12 | by prometheus you mean the trance band or the new movie? |
climactic
06.08.12 | looks sick, hopefully seeing it tomorrow |
Deviant.
06.08.12 | Will see it, but I'm not expecting to be blown away or anything |
BassDemon333
06.08.12 | Just got back from midnight IMAX showing, holy shit it was intense but really good. Still left a lot of questions unanswered though and an opening for a sequel. |
JWT155
06.08.12 | Saw it last night, while the special effects, artwork and action are amazing, it left me wanting more. The script was rather poor in many parts, Charlize Theron's character was awful and essentially useless and in all very anti-climactic. That being said it was refreshing seeing an ambitious gritty sci fi flick in theaters that doesn't abide by the stereotypical traits of the genre. |
Rev
06.08.12 | was pretty freakin' sweet |
J0ckstrapsFTW
06.08.12 | I'll still go see it it's a MOTHERFUCKIN alien movie |
MO
06.08.12 | ^ not really |
jdennis31
06.08.12 | didn't understand the hype for this movie and thought it was hilarious how fast the imdb rating dropped. i'm guessing the hype was because everyone thinks alien and blade runner are better than they actually are, right? |
MO
06.08.12 | dude those 2 movies slay, I think people were expecting more of the actual aliens than what is actually in the movie |
jdennis31
06.08.12 | i didn't enjoy them as much as other people, but to be fair i have a hard time watching older movies cause of the graphics/animations being poor even if they were groundbreaking for their time, which is the arguement everyone seems to come up with when mentioning those 2 movies |
jdennis31
06.08.12 | and i was just wondering about the hype cause the trailer itself didn't seem like one that would automatically entice an audience unless there were underlying factors there |
Ignimbrite
06.08.12 | visuals were amazing, human element was lacking. solid 3.5/4 |
klap
06.08.12 | ^^eww |
Trebor.
06.08.12 | gayest use of > ever |
demigod!
06.08.12 | Am I the only one here who's totally psyched for Brave? |
Trebor.
06.08.12 | I'm part Scottish and I don't even give a fuck |
demigod!
06.08.12 | It's Pixar, man. Pixar. And not cars, so it'll be good. |
Trebor.
06.08.12 | Idk man I've lost my faith in Pixar, all of their upcoming projects sound stupid |
someguest
06.08.12 | Wall-E was the last good thing Pixar put out. |
Ignimbrite
06.09.12 | "Wall-E was the last good thing Pixar put out."
this is such an incorrect statement. Up and TS3 were easily some of the best animated movies of all time. |
Storm In A Teacup
06.09.12 | The new spiderman trailers look too cheesy and dumb for a remake to "replace" the Toby McGuire movies. They were not bad anyway and I had actually been looking forward to a 4th toby/kirsten spiderman movie but noooo they gotta start over and open a brand new can of blah 2.0. |
Storm In A Teacup
06.09.12 | and about Promethius
I figure it will be boring as f |
Ignimbrite
06.09.12 | it's not boring by any means. sure, the story and characters aren't as fleshed out as they could have been, but they're certainly decent and the visuals are absolutely spectacular, so all in all, it's very worth watching. |
Storm In A Teacup
06.09.12 | Is there fighting in it cuz ESPN was portraying it as a "biggest battle at the ends of the earth" movie. |
klap
06.09.12 | yeah i usually listen to espn when choosing my movies |
Storm In A Teacup
06.09.12 | ....that's why I asked because I figured they didn't even know to begin with |
klap
06.09.12 | i don't think anyone in prometheus drinks coors either so that's a bit misleading |
Ignimbrite
06.09.12 | there's fighting but nothing on a really large scale |
Storm In A Teacup
06.09.12 | Coors is fucking gross, give me a steel reserve, budweiser, mickeys any day over that. |
Storm In A Teacup
06.09.12 | Better yet
gimme liqour! |
klap
06.09.12 | god that coors commercial came on again and i still don't know how they're connecting it to the movie |
Trebor.
06.09.12 | Man do I love seeing the same origin story over and over again!
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gabethepiratesquid
06.09.12 | I can't wait for the new Spider-man
and whoever said the Toby Macguire ones were can go eat dicks for breakfast |
Ignimbrite
06.09.12 | the Toby Macguire ones are
should I go and eat dicks for breakfast now |
Devastator
06.09.12 | The only thing wrong with the Macguire ones was that Venom was portrayed horribly. My favorite comic book villian and they fucking did him no justice. |
gabethepiratesquid
06.09.12 | ......woops |
Storm In A Teacup
06.09.12 | yeah Venom and Carnage in some of the video games and comics are hardcore |
Devastator
06.09.12 | Spiderman for the PS1 had one of my favorite portrayals of Venom ever. The one in Web of Shadows was pretty good too.
But fuck Topher Grace. |
Hyperion1001
06.09.12 | just got back from it, saw it in imax
heres the short, so far its the only film i have ever seen that i feel will be better in 3d in the theater than at home not in 3d, its contains the best use of 3D tech of any movie thus far
its not boring, the effects and photography are great. the story was ok, i liked it while watching it and fassbender as david was brilliant, but i did feel like it was a bit stretched, like they focused too much on the overall story and implications on the greater mythos and not enough on the story of prometheus. but so far its the best movie ive seen this year (i havent seen cabin yet so dont say that, its on my list) |
demigod!
06.09.12 | "Idk man I've lost my faith in Pixar, all of their upcoming projects sound stupid"
What projects are you referring to? Other than Monsters Uni (which does sound kinda dumb, but I still have faith) they haven't really announced much, other than some vague details about a movie that explores the human mind, and one centered aroudn the mexican day of the dead. Both those sound pretty badass to me.
Oh, and the former is gonna be directed by the guy who did Toy Story 3, which was amazing. So yeah. Pixar.
But we can all agree that the Cars franchise sucks and needs to stop |
demigod!
06.09.12 | am i the only one here who absolutely loved Avengers |
Inveigh
06.09.12 | I feel like every time a new blockbuster movie comes out in 3D, the buzz is "yes 3D sucks, but THIS is the one that gets it right!" |
jdennis31
06.09.12 | no i loved it. one of the only movies that was an all out action flick that i didn't find myself wondering when the goddamn battles were gonna end. didn't feel as long as it was |
jdennis31
06.09.12 | the 3d in avatar and toy story 3 were great. other than getting rid of glasses i don't see what else they can do with the technology. and i heard hugo was even better than those 2, although i missed that one in theaters |
Inveigh
06.09.12 | avatar's 3d was ok, but it still started to look weird and headachey after awhile |
jdennis31
06.09.12 | i'm not fond of the 3d popping out shit, i loved toy story 3's 3d cause it wasn't trying to play off the pop out stuff but utilized the depth, kind of like the difference between vinyl/mp3. |
Deviant.
06.09.12 | 3D looks fine if it's being added to a fabricated source (like Avatar or TS3), but it just looks terrible when the artists play around with real world mechanics. Not to mention that they have to use low-grade quality film to be able to shoot in it |
qwe3
06.09.12 | "i read a review where the reviewer was like, what if dolly the sheep could talk and ask us why we cloned a sheep. we'd probably be like "because we could.""
haha its funny you say this and youll see why when you watch the movie.
tbh i liked the movie. didnt come close to alien but it was suspenseful in parts, interesting in others and some of the acting was really really good.
some parts did not make a fucking iota of sense but i'll forgive ridley for that because of the drop dead gorgeous visuals |
qwe3
06.09.12 | "That being said it was refreshing seeing an ambitious gritty sci fi flick in theaters that doesn't abide by the stereotypical traits of the genre. "
im sorry what?
that's pretty much the opposite of what it was |
PayneTiger777
06.09.12 | I saw this last night and I'm not sure what to think of it. There are a few things that I want to be explained, such as the different effects from the black goo and the reasoning behind some of the characters motives. After reading a bunch of comments online, I understand it a little bit more, especially the ending. |
salival13
06.09.12 | I went with 3D because that was the only way to see it in IMAX which was fantastic.
SONY has to keep making Spiderman films because if they didn't the rights would expire and transfer to Disney since they own Marvel now. That's why I bet you'll see another Fantastic Four movie in the near future. Barf.
Prometheus was cool. Production, cinematography, the score and acting were all fabulous. Everyone's gripe seems to be with the plot. Would anyone care to elaborate? I thought it to be a great sci-fi film about the acceptance of death, sacrifice and preservation of life and sets up wonderfully for the 2nd installment.
Some food for thought, why do you think the engineers decided to destroy us 2,000 years ago after creating us? |
Rev
06.09.12 | "That's why I bet you'll see another Fantastic Four movie in the near future. Barf."
actually, a Fantastic Four film done right would be pretty sweet. plus, the Fantastic Four are a pretty important part of the Marvel Universe |
PayneTiger777
06.09.12 | I think it has something to do with the xenomorphs. Maybe in creating mankind, they also created the xenomorphs and saw that it was too dangerous to create another species. Then after seeing how advanced the human race had gotten over time, they were afraid that humans would turn out to be just like them and want to find a way to create life for their own selfish reasons. One line that sticks with me after watching the movie is when David says, "To create life you must first destroy it." |
taylormemer
06.09.12 | I prefer film to be in the following format:
Length, width...
and character development. |
qwe3
06.09.12 | uh why was he the only one that needed development |
PayneTiger777
06.09.12 | ^ Yes. The movie is about life and how we are created. All of the crew members already have their own distinct personality that doesn't need to be delved into, while David is a creation from someone else who learns remarkable things over time. A perfectly developed character that is one of a kind. This is shown when Shaw asks him if he wants to be free. |
demigod!
06.09.12 | 3D with subtely can be very good |
Sciroccu
06.09.12 | really sucks ? I was about to see it... |
loveisamixtape
06.09.12 | i had a bunch of friends that went to go see it at midnight when it came out and they all said it was fucking awesome
but they did get really stoned before they left so |
Emim
06.09.12 | "Best film of the year (so far) still is Cabin in the woods thought (that movie shits all over all others, even the avengers). "
ha
hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
cabin in the woods sucked |
loveisamixtape
06.09.12 | cabin in the woods was fucking terrible |
qwe3
06.09.12 | god you two have terrible opinions |
Hyperion1001
06.09.12 | its not that the other characters were underdeveloped, it was that they were just plain stupid and did stupid things
remember the secondary characters in alien and aliens? they werent necessarily developed but they were at least good characters who didnt waste screen space |
Hyperion1001
06.09.12 | oh most def, like i said it has been my favorite movie ive seen this year, the visuals are amazing and the story is good, those secondary characters were one of the only problems i had with the film |
Emim
06.09.12 | "god you two have terrible opinions"
lol
that movie was a cliche wrapped in a cliche trying to be ironic about the whole ordeal. the "appease the gods" angle was the only compelling thing, and it never gets expounded on. |
klap
06.09.12 | it's a different planet than the one they land on in alien |
ZombicidalMan
06.09.12 | Saw it last night, liked it more than I should have. Predictable scenes and cliched characters held it down a lot, but I'm a sucker for Fassbender. |
Hyperion1001
06.09.12 | yeah this one is LV-223, the original is on LV-426 |
Dashy
06.09.12 | Avengers was fucking trash. Another addition to the big-budget trash heap that are movies these days. Cabin in the Woods was pretty good. I haven't heard much positive things about Prometheus, so I am going to assume it will suck when I see it. |
klap
06.10.12 | pretty sure scott said there will be a sequel you're in luck andcas |
Hyperion1001
06.10.12 | yes but hes working on a second bladerunner first i think
i dont really know how i feel about that |
Hyperion1001
06.10.12 | ugh, the original or road warrior? |
salival13
06.10.12 | Bladerunner 2, Monopoly, Brave New World. It's gonna be awhile before a Prometheus sequel gets made.
What do you mean by the "notable science of things"?
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Deviant.
06.10.12 | While we're on the topic of movies, turns out The Dictator is pretty bad. Couple of great scenes but pretty shit in general |
Deviant.
06.10.12 | People always forget about the Ali G movie |
WeepingBanana
06.10.12 | Yeah The Dictator was just a compilation of funny things that would happen when SBC dresses up like a dictator. As a cohesive movie is kinda sucked.
And Prometheus was a huge disappointment |
WeepingBanana
06.10.12 | "Wow, who saw that one coming?! All of Sacha Baron Cohen's movies are shit"
Dude SBC is a genius. Borat is so goddamn good |
Archelaos
06.10.12 | "Coors is fucking gross, give me a steel reserve, budweiser, mickeys any day over that."
Lol Budweiser is awful. |
Deviant.
06.10.12 | "Yeah The Dictator was just a compilation of funny things that would happen when SBC dresses up like a dictator. As a cohesive movie is kinda sucked."
Agreed, it just felt like he came up with some cool scenarios and then just wrote a sub-par script to accommodate them. Like if you could imagine a recurring character on a skit show (like SNL or something), and just having all those individual situations pasted together. The wank scene and when he delivers that baby are great though, and that bit on the helicopter when he starts talking Porsche 911's is more than a little obvious but still pretty handled pretty well. Rest of the movie blows though |
Emim
06.10.12 | Also while on the topic of movies...is Total Recall a straight up remake? |
WeepingBanana
06.10.12 | "the things that happened in prometheus made no sense as an alien fan."
funny, cause i've never seen the Alien movies and i feel like they just pandered to the Alien fanbase too much. Noomi Rapeface looking exactly like Sigourney Weaver, the xenomorph at the end for NO GODDAMN REASON, something bursting out of someone's torso area. i just kept thinking about George Lucas saying "it's like poetry, each stanza rhymes with the last" |
WeepingBanana
06.10.12 | but again, i haven't seen Alien so yeah |
Emim
06.10.12 | just seems odd
especially with colin farrel |
Deviant.
06.10.12 | How does it destroy it? I haven't seen it |
WeepingBanana
06.10.12 | it's really a shame cause i've always loved Ridley Scott |
BassDemon333
06.10.12 | andcas thats because Damon Lindelof re-wrote the script, which I'm not so sure was a good idea. Also, I want to know
how the fuck the engineer ship got where it was on LV-426 and how it died in the pilot seat from a chestburster and how
all those eggs got down there in Alien. None of those questions were answered. |
WeepingBanana
06.10.12 | also when the Pilot and Charlize Theron hooked up. completely pointless. you could say that if the pilot was where he was supposed to be he could have helped the other two from dying... but they would have died regardless |
WeepingBanana
06.10.12 | also lol hippie ancient aliens guy with hippie girlfriend... for some reason bigoted against androids...
most retarded character in the movie bar none |
climactic
06.10.12 | some of the coolest visuals ive ever seen in a movie. overall i enjoyed it but there were so many unanswered questions |
klap
06.10.12 | andcas that point you make about elba's character leaving his station is the only plot point you brought up that i had an issue with too, im assuming it's because he considered sex with the theron a more pressing issue (reasonable) |
klap
06.10.12 | also really don't understand how this is out of whack with everything else in the alien universe. it wasn't supposed to explain everything that happened in that movie |
EyesWideShut
06.10.12 | saw it yesterday and yea i sucked. cool first 45 mins then all down hill, with little to no horror/suspense or action.. if the script sucked then give me something else.
the spacey jockey how the hell was the giant man scary and that fuckin old man being on the ship was fucking stupid. major letdown. Fassbender didnt even do that android spazz out. |
klap
06.10.12 | yeah im pretty sure rapace just convinced him when she said the ship was going to earth. its cliched but its an action movie i can accept that |
climactic
06.10.12 | one thing i read was that since david's side-mission was to figure out a way to make weyland live forever, he was experimenting the black goo on charlie. he had no emotions, so nothing would make him want to poison charlie |
Pentagon
06.10.12 | its good |
EyesWideShut
06.10.12 | gotta love that flute david played |
WeepingBanana
06.10.12 | i was glad David killed that dude. he was fucking retarded
seriously who insults an android for not having emotions? there's no fucking point because HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY GODDAMN EMOTIONS! that's like me making fun of my laptop to it's face when it crashes |
WeepingBanana
06.10.12 | i think it would have killed charlie if charlize theron didn't burn the fuck out of him with no thought at all |
klap
06.10.12 | ^^. also climactic's explanation for the infection is the correct one i believe, since david's shown talking to weyland (off-screen) right before he goes to infect holloway |
WeepingBanana
06.10.12 | but even still, he's a hyper intelligent android and he decided to put it in charlie's drink thinking it might make him live forever? don't you think he should have done some research? i mean the odds of it making him immortal were fucking nothing but the odds of it having a bad effect were way more likely. |
klap
06.10.12 | i feel like that was weyland's call and not david's |
WeepingBanana
06.10.12 | maybe. either way it was horrible horrible writing |
salival13
06.10.12 | So much fail in this thread I don't know what to address. Vickers and Idris Elba's hook up was not pointless. One it provides comic relief, two it "should" substantiate that Vickers is not also an android like David.
David had multiple motives to poison Charlie. He might have thought Charlie to be a threat but also poisoning him was an experiment of sorts to gain more knowledge about alien-human interaction which might lead to some form of treatment for Weyland.
If you go into this expecting it to explain Alien you're gonna have a bad time. It doesn't contradict the lifeforms from the previous movies because these are a different species yet they progress similarly enough do they not?
Were you NOT ENTERTAINED!?!? |
MO
06.10.12 | Just got back from the 3d...yea it was boss |
MO
06.10.12 | "Also, I want to know how the fuck the engineer ship got where it was on LV-426 and how it died in the pilot seat from a chestburster and how all those eggs got down there in Alien. None of those questions were answered."
well they left it wide open for a sequel, so theres that. maybe shaw who goes looking for answers at the end of this goes to a similar planet in the region and there are the more than likely canisters on the second ship they took, who knows theres so many possibilities. Or there can be some sort of rescue team and the xenomorph which hatched at the very end of this movie will have began laying eggs, infecting all but one and hitching a ride to LV 426 where they find david and shaw. who knows, im looking forward to where this can go. |
salival13
06.10.12 | By "apparent suicide" you mean the engineer in the opening sequence?
He sacrificed himself in order to spread life to the planet. Willingness and necessity of sacrifice
for life was the guiding ethos for the film hence the title "Prometheus" |
climactic
06.10.12 | i just wish there was more interaction between the engineers and the humans. the only scene really was when david talks to it for a second and then it attacks all of them. you'd think the engineer would have been more surprised to see that the humans they created had gained the knowledge to come to their planet |
MO
06.10.12 | @ clim - see I kinda tie that to the first scene. It seemed like the humanoid at the very beginning was hoping to do something like preserve or strengthen their race leaving a blueprint and directions to come find them. Only to be greeted by these small beings (notably an old man who looks feeble and an android who I think he could tell wasn't a person). Then got pissed and wanted to go back to earth and start over. That's how I saw it anyways. |
climactic
06.10.12 | but i thought they had planned on destroying earth before that? |
salival13
06.10.12 | @andcas, I don't know how you're substantiating that. All we saw was mountains and water before he drank the liquid.
@Metallic, I think either he was part of a rogue band of engineers spreading life, maybe there are different factions with different motives. Or perhaps the entire engineer race turned on mankind 2,000 years ago. Some theories have been positing the given the religious motifs of immaculate conception on Christmas and self-sacrifice points towards Jesus Christ being an engineer sent to Earth, similarly to others that must have inspired the ancient paintings found on Earth, and we crucified him so they then decided to wipe we were not worthy of the gift of life. |
salival13
06.10.12 | I say 2,000 years because that was how old the engineers body they found was. |
salival13
06.10.12 | Elizabeth's spawn wasn't a traditional facehugger though it was different, squid-like. Human and alien DNA hadn't been spliced to produce offspring before so you can't say the biology conflicts with 1979 Alien reproduction. |
Hyperion1001
06.10.12 | " I'm still not grasping the infection through sex and why that would give birth to a facehugger"
the image of the stomach bursting was a central theme in the story. when prometheus was cast down by the other gods, his punishment was having his liver ripped out and eaten every day. the SJ's were also shown to have their stomach's burst open when they found the pile of corpses. thats why elizabeth had to give birth to the proto-hugger through the incision in her stomach, and not through regular means of birth. |
klap
06.10.12 | they weren't trying to tie it all up within one movie, the original alien certainly didn't do that |
klap
06.11.12 | i am pretty certain scott has said there will be a sequel. given that the wait between alien and aliens was around 7 years i wouldn't hold my breath |
WeepingBanana
06.11.12 | i also found myself cracking up when i shouldn't have been. i almost had tears running down my face when the engineer ripped david's head off then hit Weyland with it |
aqualungcancer
06.11.12 | Just saw it. It was interesting. |
PayneTiger777
06.11.12 | I just got back from watching it a second time and I have to say that I enjoyed it much more than the first time around. I know a lot of people were complaining about a lot of unanswered questions when really there is only one big question...why did the engineers want to destroy us? This sets up the sequel and there you have it.
The only scene that really pissed me off was how Charlize Theron's character didn't run to the side ffs. |
climactic
06.11.12 | i deff want to see it in theaters again |
BassDemon333
06.11.12 | @Metallic - yeah I hope they explore that stuff if there is a sequel to better connect it to Alien in that sense but I don't know if this movie is going to do well enough for a sequel to be green lit. |
Hyperion1001
06.11.12 | well the first 20 min of that review all they've said so far is that the characters are retards, which has already been covered |
pmmets07
06.11.12 | i saw this last night. don't know exactly what to make of it. |
accompliceofmydeath
06.11.12 | I'm going today. Pretty stoked on it. |
BloodSweatandBeers
06.11.12 | this is a perfect example of why a generation of people growing up with more and more advanced technologies, who can get answers to anything at the tap of a cell phone screen, wanting more and more set in stone iron clad answers and movies which are supposed to be ART don't mix at all
do you people need to know absolutely everything to a 100% certain tee, why? nothing is absolute so why bother, what satisfaction do you get from that? just use your imagination and have fun with it, once you being overanalyzing every single aspect of a movie you lose all the fun and just go down the shitty road of being an above it all skeptic/pessimist/wannabe know-it-all
the whole point of a movie overall is that its a form of art, nothing ironclad, whatever happened in the film was 100% intended by the director (yes some of the dialogue was lolworthy) but all these people going on about it not making sense, plotholes, etc are just wasting their time since the only one who really knows is ridley scott, the writers and the studio and they will never tell the audience, its supposed to be left up to the imagination
i'll probably get flamed for this so i'll stop but its just hilarious to see all these people trying to dissect a movie to its bare minimum and answer everything |
jdennis31
06.11.12 | i haven't seen the movie, but plotholes and random stuff that goes unanswered does not = art for me, it =s a lazy director/writer |
jdennis31
06.11.12 | and also, i find it funny that you keep talking about film as art and then say its ridiculous that we are scrutnizing it. art pretty much always invites discussion/debate |
salival13
06.11.12 | I think you make a good point Blood (i.e. Inception) though in a science fiction movie that leaves some interesting open ended questions and intended to be followed with a sequel its fun to play detective and speculate.
However while watching the film I was not concerned with how the two crew members could logically get lost in the caverns or how Elizabeth could possibly run after the surgery, those logistics aren't really that important to the film as a whole. It's an experience not a logic exercise to outsmart the film. |
WeepingBanana
06.11.12 | @Blood. It's not the unanswered sci-fi elements that bother me, it's the glaring holes in the film's story telling and overall logic and how fucking retarded every character was, sans David, maybe. |
climactic
06.12.12 | "the more you think about it the more you grow to dislike it."
i disagree, i thought it was just pretty good when i saw it, but ive been talking and reading about it a lot and i like it more now |
Storm In A Teacup
06.12.12 | so I should see it then possibly |
Emim
06.12.12 | It sucks.
Haven't seen it. |
klap
06.12.12 | yeah andcas the majority of those questions really take a minimum of thought to answer |
Deviant.
06.12.12 | Jesus christ Andcas you're like a 2 year old
But why?
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Slum
06.12.12 | It was pure bullshit and it doesn't surprise me that lindelof was involved |
Deviant.
06.12.12 | Yeah they breed them smarter down here |
WeepingBanana
06.12.12 | i think most of the points that andcas brought up aren't "nitpicking". they're huge fucking gaps in the story that just constantly shattered my suspension of disbelief
"idk it was p cute and the space jockey was p ugly"
so after they took measures to avoid a life form down there, they see one and it's nbd?
also, i feel like we haven't stressed enough how much of a dumb fuck weyland was. first off, how the fuck does he think the engineers would have the answer to immortality? how can he even make that stretch? secondly, after he was told that they're all dead except one that's resorted to cryostasis to survive, he still believes that they hold the key to immortality?
also, idk if he decided which scientists were coming on board, but if he did that's even more support of him being a complete moron cause those scientists were lolbad |
WeepingBanana
06.12.12 | i have no sympathy for anyone in that movie and i wish elizabeth died too just so i could say "i'm glad everyone died" |
WeepingBanana
06.12.12 | oh so all the scientists were supposed to be stupid as shit?
that's retarded and it still doesn't make the movie any better |
WeepingBanana
06.12.12 | "protagonist is a scientist who bases her assumptions by religious faith."
lol exactly. and the whole theme of faith in the movie was so retardedly heavy-handed
"The scientists were hired for probably a fuck load of money, then frozen for two years, then informed on the mission after they had no way out."
okay thanks for that insight but still they're all just astoundingly dumb |
WeepingBanana
06.12.12 | "You guys know how many actual scientists are Christians/believe in God, right?"
yeah but they don't use faith to back up their science. which is what shaw did. when those scientists' assertions are challenged and they say "it's what i believe", they're bad scientists, whether they're religious or not |
WeepingBanana
06.12.12 | i'm pretty sure they gave elizabeth an english accent just so everything that fell out of her mouth didn't sound so dumb |
WeepingBanana
06.12.12 | one of the many things i attribute to lazy screenwriting
also lol i almost forgot, when the ground opened up for the alien ship to take off, the ground was opening up like a separating pie chart (if that makes sense) and elizabeth kept jumping from one "slice" to the other, making nearly impossible leaps when she could have just run outside of the circumference of them opening. and then of course her and vickers decide to run in the same direction that the space shit was rolling only for elizabeth to fall, roll over like 3 times and be completely out of the way. bitches don't know how to run away from things |
WeepingBanana
06.12.12 | "That running from a falling/rolling object is in every movie ever that has a scene like that. There's no suspense in, "They stepped to the side... yeah""
well there was no suspense anyways because i didn't care if the characters died or not because they were just so stupid.
actually i was rooting for the ship |
WeepingBanana
06.12.12 | "I guess it made too much sense to run to the lifeboat. vickers decided to have an austin powers moment and wait for the ship to crush her."
hahaha that was exactly my though. actually a lot of things in the movie reminded me of austin powers: when vickers said the ship cost "1 trillion dollars" and when we first see weyland he just reminded me a lot of doctor evil |
WeepingBanana
06.12.12 | i wonder if elizabeth is gonna force david's head to preform sweet sweet cunnilingus on her |
WeepingBanana
06.12.12 | dude what are you talking about i'd totally go down on Noomi Rapace |
WeepingBanana
06.12.12 | no he doesn't he's an android |
WeepingBanana
06.12.12 | lol no except for Fassbender the acting was pretty bad |
WeepingBanana
06.12.12 | well i mean the visuals in Prometheus destroy the visuals of the prequels |
DeadBeat
06.12.12 | movie was ok |
klap
06.12.12 | wait did a lot of people not get that that was a giant facehugger at the end? |
theacademy
06.12.12 | prometheus was pretty good but it wasn't that much better than predators or the first AVP (which im sure most of us were hoping for).
It really comes nowhere close to Predator, Alien, Aliens |
theacademy
06.12.12 | 3.5/5 |
klap
06.12.12 | also, retarded characters have been in every alien movie, it's part and parcel of being part of the horror genre. i don't think ripley was that "badass" and "smart" for going back for a fucking cat in the original film |
theacademy
06.12.12 | facehuggers aren't born klapper they hatch from eggs god show some respect jeezerz |
theacademy
06.12.12 | bitches love cats |
klap
06.12.12 | pretty sure scott changed that concept |
klap
06.12.12 | realistically i can't have a conversation with someone who likes avp more than avp:requiem |
ReturnOfTheDnor
06.12.12 | Only thing Prometheus did for the alien franchise was make AVP non-canon. GG |
ReturnOfTheDnor
06.12.12 | Only positive thing* |
klap
06.12.12 | cool article for fans of the series:
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8040967/from-ridley-scott-original-prometheus-not-brief-conversation-alien-franchise |
theacademy
06.12.12 | AVP requiem would have been sick if it had a showdown
wtf how u have a "vs." movie without a proper showdown?? |
theacademy
06.12.12 | i swear all "vs." movies are huge failures when compared to the holy grail of "vs." movies
the godfather of "vs." movies
fucking perfect 5/5 100% for the fans: Freddy vs. Jason. a modern masterpiece tbqh. |
theacademy
06.12.12 | Also AVP is still canon wtf are you talking about Dnor.
Charles Bishop Weyland is Guy Pearce's father or some shit |
theacademy
06.12.12 | AVP is pretty much neutered schlock but it more or less delivers what it promises. and it came up with that concept of manipulating unrelated ancient cultures to build shit and draw shit and get killed by xenoz before Prometheus recycled it... |
theacademy
06.12.12 | amen to that brother
(except ms. Yutani, of course) |
theacademy
06.12.12 | http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100720165936/avp/images/f/fd/Ms_yutani.jpg
#bawss |
ReturnOfTheDnor
06.12.12 | it's not canon because (without too much of a spoiler), the ending of Prometheus is the supposed "birth" of the first Xenomorph queen from what I can tell, yet in AVP, Predators had been breeding Xenomorph queens for years as a form of initiation into manhood. |
klap
06.12.12 | ehh no proof the alien in prometheus was the first one |
ReturnOfTheDnor
06.12.12 | It's definitely inferred. Unless the creation of another giant facehugger happened, and that impregnated a DIFFERENT engineer/space jockey by coincidence in another separate incident, this is assumed to be the original queen Xenomorph |
theacademy
06.12.12 | no it isn't (inferred) at all
also what makes you think its a queen? it doesn't look anything like queens in the past. all of the shit written into prometheus about what comes out of those cannisters is too loosely conceived to infer anything about when the "original queen xenomorph" comes around
god grow up stop being so narrow minded
|
theacademy
06.12.12 | also:
"Unless the creation of another giant facehugger happened, and that impregnated a DIFFERENT engineer/space jockey by coincidence in another separate incident"
you use "unless" and caps "DIFFERENT" to make this seem like a stretch of some sort
but the fucking space jockey that dies at the end of prometheus dies nowhere near where THE ORIGINAL sj is found in Alien... so whats ur point dude
god just grow the fuck up seriously growup |
theacademy
06.12.12 | follow me at @AVPiscanon |
theacademy
06.12.12 | not to be confused with @A_V_pisscannon |
ReturnOfTheDnor
06.12.12 | You're wrong and your face is stupid as fuck.
Game the fuck over. |
theacademy
06.12.12 | grow up dude
srslie
follow me at @lern2movies_AVPiscanon or like me on fb at facebook.com/animorphs69 |
klap
06.12.12 | yeah i don't think it was inferred at all |
theacademy
06.12.12 | the best reaction and the one i tend to agree with came from some film critic who was RT'd by the Hulk critic (so idk who the original source is, but it's not me):
'Prometheus is the worst movie that i absolutely have to watch a second time' |
Deviant.
06.24.12 | After finally seeing this the only gripe I can agree with is the geologists getting lost on their way back to the the ship. The script obviously called for some collateral damage to spook the protagonists into thinking that shit was more than a little funky on this planet and the writers couldn't find a better way to implement that idea. As for the rest of the gripes (Andcas' in particular): most of them can be figured out by spending more than a few seconds thinking about them, though admittedly the film could have fleshed things out a bit more
Shame it wasn't a good movie |
Satellite
06.24.12 | the self-surgery scene was pretty amazing.
i liked the film on the whole, but the flaws are pretty hard to get past. not really anything worth complaining about, though. people are still giving adam sandler money to make films, fuck shitsakes. |
Hyperion1001
06.24.12 | except when she lasers her stomach open she cut about every single vital muscle in her abdomen and would have made is pretty much impossible for her to move around
but thats just nitpicking at this point |
qwe3
06.24.12 | did not reread the hwole thread but did anyone read this on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/uswn1/prometheus_everything_explained_and_analysed/
interesting read, not sure if i agree with all of it but its pretty cool, hes obv spent a lot of time on it. poor dude must have had to watch the movie like 5 times |
omnipanzer
06.24.12 | "adam sandler could be a good dramatic actor if he wanted to and that's what's sad."
Love me some Punch Drunk Love |
qwe3
06.24.12 | "The only scene that really pissed me off was how Charlize Theron's character didn't run to the side ffs."
oh man that was the worst |
EyesWideShut
06.24.12 | was actually watching Alien tonight. that black guy was badass. |
Storm In A Teacup
06.24.12 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B2t68yoYy8&feature=fvwrel |
omnipanzer
06.24.12 | "and reign over me was a tear jerking movie as well."
Fuck everyone else I loved Spanglish, there I said it. |
omnipanzer
06.24.12 | "was actually watching Alien tonight. that black guy was badass."
I need to bust out my box set. |
Deviant.
06.24.12 | Oh man, I hated Spanglish |
Deviant.
06.24.12 | Really cannot be bothered watching 40 minutes of that |
Acanthus
06.24.12 | Really enjoyed the film regardless of what the writer of Lost was allowed to contribute.
Will buy on release day. |
theacademy
06.24.12 | ugh spanglish |
theacademy
06.24.12 | alien=aliens=predator >>>>>>>> predators >>>> prometheus=alien vs. predator > alien resurrection > predator 2=alien^3 > aliens vs. predator: requiem |
Sanders
06.24.12 | ^ I think it depends what you want from your alien/pred films. The originals are classics, no doubt, but for pure popcorn fun the alien vs predator series really aren't that bad |
theacademy
06.24.12 | a nightmare on elm street > alien=aliens=predator=nightmare 3: dream warriors > new nightmare=freddy vs. jason >>> frid[ay the 13 > prometheus=alien vs. predator=friday the 13th part 3 >> nightmare 2=friday the 13th part 2 > all the rest of the nightmare flicks > the friday the 13th remake > alien resurrection=all the rest of the jason flicks except jason x >predator 2=alien^3 > jason X > aliens vs. predator: requiem |
Masochist
06.24.12 | "'Prometheus is the worst movie that i absolutely have to watch a second time'"
Don't agree with that guy, because that title went to (and still remains with) Sucker Punch. |
theacademy
06.24.12 | > the friday the 13th remake (thats the worst movie by far) |
Sanders
06.24.12 | "a nightmare on elm street > alien=aliens=predator=nightmare 3: dream warriors > new nightmare=freddy vs. jason >>> frid[ay the 13 > prometheus=alien vs. predator=friday the 13th part 3 >> nightmare 2=friday the 13th part 2 > all the rest of the nightmare flicks > the friday the 13th remake > alien resurrection=all the rest of the jason flicks except jason x >predator 2=alien^3 > jason X > aliens vs. predator: requiem"
haha amazing. Where do you place Evil Dead in there, out of interest? |
theacademy
06.24.12 | high up... way better than new nightmare |
Masochist
06.24.12 | "but it has chicks, dragons, nazi, samurai, guns and more; how can they do wrong?"
They didn't get it wrong. They put all that shit in there in some hodgepodge order, no plot, no sense, no direction...just chicks, dragons, nazi, samurai, guns and nothing more.
Shit was terrible. I saw it three times in a row in theaters. |
Masochist
06.24.12 | "Prometheus," on the other hand, I've seen twice, but I actually enjoyed it enough as a movie. Cool ideas, characters that weren't that too annoying, and a philosophical aspect that didn't take over the entire non-action part of the movie. Not the best of summer blockbusters, but an interesting movie, and entertaining enough. |
Sanders
06.24.12 | "Shit was terrible. I saw it three times in a row in theaters."
Those two sentences really don't reconcile |
blastOFFitsPARTYtime
06.24.12 | Went into this with low expectations, and hence rather enjoyed it. First movie I've seen in 3D that was worth it. |
Sanders
06.24.12 | Avatar, whilst being a blue version of Ferngully, was the only film I think that's been enhanced by 3D |
Masochist
06.24.12 | "Those two sentences really don't reconcile"
They don't...by themselves. But throw in one of my previous posts--
""'Prometheus is the worst movie that i absolutely have to watch a second time'"
Don't agree with that guy, because that title went to (and still remains with) Sucker Punch."
...and it might make a bit more sense. As a movie, Sucker Punch was terribly put together, and made no sense, and lost its flavor really quickly. But fuck, it had hot chicks, dragons, nazi, samurai, guns and bad-ass fight scenes...damn right I'll see it multiple times! |
Masochist
06.24.12 | 3D...I could do without it most of the time, but I love watching computer animated movies in 3D. 'How To Train Your Dragon' was amazing in 3D, especially the flight scenes. |
Sanders
06.24.12 | Haha I take your point. I was so gutted it didn't pay off, it could have been amazing. It had all the ingredients for a classic, but he kinda fucked it |
Masochist
06.24.12 | "vanessa hudgens in it should've been a red flag."
Not gonna lie, I enjoyed 'Bandslam' enough. It was like if High School Musical were an indie film...and the songs actually fit in context with the movie. |
Deviant.
06.24.12 | Yeah but who went into Sucker Punch expecting something deep,meaningful and well thought-out? It was visual popcorn; I went in pretty much expecting the female 300 and that's exactly what I got |
Deviant.
06.24.12 | "alien=aliens=predator >>>>>>>> predators >>>> prometheus=alien vs. predator > alien resurrection > predator 2=alien^3 > aliens vs. predator: requiem"
This, so hard |
Acanthus
06.24.12 | I don't really enjoy the Predator films myself, though the first AvP was fun. |
Masochist
06.24.12 | I compare Sucker Punch to The Expendables. I went into The Expendables thinking I was going to get nothing but big-ass alpha males busting heads, lots of bullets, some kung-fu, and maybe a few one-liners. That's EXACTLY what I got. Why the hell was it so damn boring then? Dunno...
I watched Sucker Punch again in theaters because, even though I couldn't figure out why the hell anything went on, it had girls who fought and shot shit the fuck up. Plot line be damned, FUCK YES. Still a shit movie, though, which is all I'm really saying. |
Masochist
06.24.12 | "Still a shit movie, though, despite my watching it multiple times, which is all I'm really saying about it."
^^^Fix'd |
Masochist
06.24.12 | Also, maybe the fact that I've never seen any Aliens movies, and have only ever seen the first Predator movie, aided in my enjoyment of it? Did those of you who didn't like it too much not like it (at least in part) because of its relation with the Alien movies? |
Sanders
06.24.12 | ^ are you talking about Prometheus now? I do think that if it was an original sci-fi film I'd have enjoyed it more. Trying to jam it into the Alien universe just meant it was trying to answer more questions than it needed to |
Sanders
06.24.12 | My favourite part of the Predator series is the ridiculously homoerotic mid-air arm wrestle. |
Sanders
06.24.12 | I fucking love it, it's Arnie's best work, apart from Kindergarten Cop. Obvs |
Deviant.
06.24.12 | "Did those of you who didn't like it too much not like it (at least in part) because of its relation with the Alien movies?"
Nah, it just wasn't a very good movie tbh. The first half of it is great, but when they start showing that half of the cast are two-faced bastards everything just begins to fall apart |
Sanders
06.24.12 | Shit, I totally did. T2 was the better film, but T1 was an undeniable classic |
Azazzel
06.25.12 | @andcas you should get a kick out of this
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=prometheus_nutshell |
TheNotrap
06.25.12 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFYmv6t_Xyg&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
Deviant.
06.25.12 | "@andcas you should get a kick out of this
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=prometheus_nutshell"
Reads like a pissed-off 12 year old wrote that. The movie has faults (and I don't even think it's that good of a movie) but that article was just idiotic |
TheNotrap
06.25.12 | It has some fascinating scenes and moments...but the characters needed more depth. |
TMobotron
06.25.12 | Movie was fantastic. What's with the people in this thread who haven't seen Alien though? Go watch it! |
klap
06.25.12 | wow that reddit thread was in depth |
North0House2
06.25.12 | Saw the new MIB last night. 'Twas pretty rad. |
MO
06.25.12 | ^^ hell yea I was pleasantly surprised by MIB 3, it was a really well done flick for a third in the series, kills the second one |
klap
06.25.12 | thought it was quite informative and given scott's few quotes on that matter seem to make some sense |
blastOFFitsPARTYtime
06.27.12 | IT'S. JUST. BORIS. |