The Chariot
The Fiancee


1.5
very poor

Review

by Cogitus USER (3 Reviews)
April 4th, 2007 | 117 replies


Release Date: 2007 | Tracklist

Review Summary: Formed with ex-members of Norma Jean, the Chariot is a Christian metalcore outfit from the South. While their first two albums showed promise, stay away from this one.

Seeing as I play a ton of online poker, I am constantly in the need of music to listen to while I'm playing. Sometimes I prefer heavy (death metal, metalcore, etc) music to get myself pumped up so I pay attention; sometimes I prefer relaxing, progressive stuff (Opeth, Isis, Incubus, whatever). I had heard a few songs off of The Chariot's previous albums ("Everything is Alive, Everything Is.." and "Unsung") and I was mildly intrigued, despite the fact they featured former Norma Jean signer Joshua Scogin, whose singing style is controversial, to say the least, in the sense that some people love his voice and some people believe it sounds like poop.

After listening to this album, Scogin's voice is actually not the real problem. It doesn't really change tones at all, which is a downside, but I've heard much worse. His lyrics are in the same vein of Norma Jean, underOATH, and every other Christian metalcore band, which also is another downside, but at least I can't really understand what he's saying, so I don't really mind. In sum, Scogin is an average, at best, metalcore singer.

There were three things that drove me insane on this album. First, the overall cohesiveness and organization of the songs. The songwriting ability of The Chariot is TERRIBLE. Everything seems completely random and thrown together, without much thought behind what they are doing at all, leaving the listener confused. Sometimes, confusion can be a good technique that bands implement (ex: Meshuggah) to develop their songs and give the listener something to figure out. But instead of wanting to understand what The Chariot is doing, it just infuriates you because of the randomness, lack of cohesion and unoriginal songwriting.

Second, the string instrumentation (guitars and bass) is extremely poor. There is nothing original written in this album at all. You've heard it all before. Quick pull-offs, dissonant riffs, uninspired breakdowns. Name any typical technique of a Christian metalcore band and The Chariot delivers. The only difference is that these riffs are twice as bad then any other Christian metalcore band. These riffs are annoying, stupid riffs that are completely devoid of emotion, thought, and purpose. Any guitar player should be insulted listening to this garbage that The Chariot has the gall to call music. In addition to this, the bass is also unremarkable, and the drums repeatedly play the same beats and use the same cymbal crashes over and over again. But this is usually typical of most Christian metalcore, so it is not noteworthy.

And lastly, the utter pretentious nature of the album and the lame attempts at experimentation. And by experimentation I mean, for example, the use of a choir for the final track, the harmonica in the song "Forgive Me Nashville", and the pathetic attempts to implement a whammy bar. I have no idea what the purpose of these things are, maybe to give a "Southern" feel to their album, but it results in more obnoxious and annoying noise to listen to and get angry at.

But lets return to what I was talking about in the beginning of my review. My point with the online poker was usually I just need something heavy or relaxing playing in the background and I would be happy. I just need something to keep my mind off poker sometimes. But this album literally made me take my headphones off because of the ungodly noise it emitted, much like nails on a chalkboard or the squealing of a passing train would.

In conclusion, the only real part of "The Fiancée" I can recommend is the first song, "Back to Back," because of its sheer heaviness. Even then, it is unoriginal, but you can definitely bang your head to it. "Heard this Noise" also accomplishes this, but again, nothing remarkable about that track either.

Pros--
Scogin's voice isn't that bad
Some heavy parts

Cons--
Poor instrumentation and songwriting
Lack of Originality
Lack of Cohesiveness

Grade: 3.2/10 or 1.5/5


user ratings (665)
3.4
great


Comments:Add a Comment 
IsItLuck?
Emeritus
April 4th 2007


4957 Comments


I like this review. No bull, straight to the point.

LifeInABox
April 4th 2007


3709 Comments


random and thrown together, without much thought behind what they are doing at all, leaving the listener confused.
uhhh, its better than a verse-chorus-verse style that all other crap metalcore bands play i.e. Atreyu, Destroy the Runner, the list goes on.


Overall, it was an ok review. It seemed like you were kidof niave in terms of some musical elemnts and connected bands. A little on the short side, but a decent start to reviewingThis Message Edited On 05.18.07

Cogitus
April 4th 2007


74 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Well, the songwriting style of those bands is also bad (Destroy the Runner, etc).. I'm saying The Chariots style is just bad, even though it can be done right (Between the Buried and Me). Thanks for the feedback.

Doppelganger
April 4th 2007


3124 Comments


kidof niave in terms of some musical elemnts

:D :D :D

Anyway, good review. Like IsItLuck? said, very to-the-point.


Cravinov13
April 5th 2007


3854 Comments


Is the Cons for originality mean they're bad cause they're original? I know that's not the case at all but you might want to specify that for others. Aside from that good revew.

Shattered_Future
April 5th 2007


1629 Comments


I almost downloaded this, after seeing some hype around the internet. Now, looking at the review, and seeing who's actually in the band is enough to make me go out and burn every copy I can find.

Good review. Only gripe is what you call "string instrumentation". I thought you were referring to the fact that they might actually play with an orchestra. You could just say instrumentation and mean the same thing, since you state that nobody in the band can play original riffs.

Cogitus
April 5th 2007


74 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Thanks for all the tips, I'll remember all of this when I do my next review

ToWhatEnd
April 5th 2007


3173 Comments


Maybe I'm one of the few who enjoys Destroy The Runner. This however, I cannot get into at all. And this band was awful at SOTU simply awful.

Edit: Nice review, especially for a second time.This Message Edited On 04.04.07

whatsgrimace
April 5th 2007


47 Comments


His last name is "Scogin", not "Scobin".

Good review, crap album.

cbmartinez
April 5th 2007


2525 Comments


I was gonna review this when I get it but from what I've heard of the album, I'm sure my review will sound a lot like this. Unsung was terrible. Without the Everything Is Alive recording, this band sucks.

204409
Emeritus
April 5th 2007


3998 Comments


While their first two albums showed promise


Ya, about that....

Understanding In a Crash
April 6th 2007


428 Comments


I'm really skeptical about buying this. The fact is that Josh Scogin whether in Norma Jean or this band can't keep members. Keller and Taco were awesome on a live show and these "replacements" look like fatter versions of Ball Mahoney and the Nasty Boys from ECW. (they move like them too.)

cbmartinez
April 6th 2007


2525 Comments


[quote=Nick]Ya, about that....[/quote]

Their first full length is good, but the Unsung EP sucks.

LifeInABox
April 10th 2007


3709 Comments


....This Message Edited On 09.18.07

LifeInABox
April 10th 2007


3709 Comments


whose singing style is controversial, to say the least
What The Hell? hah

fatkidinthecornr
April 11th 2007


17 Comments


i liked this album. its not for everyone, but if you're into the likes of norma jean, i don't think its too bad. definitely original, props for that scogin, even if you scare away all your bandmates.

LifeInABox
April 12th 2007


3709 Comments


....This Message Edited On 09.18.07

Cogitus
April 12th 2007


74 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

To hottiebassplayer:



"whose singing style is controversial, to say the least, in the sense that some people love his voice and some people believe it sounds like poop."



Read the rest of the sentence first.



"The instrementation is remenisant of a Heavyer, More Technical Every Time I Die"



Why do you think they're technical at all? There isn't a single solo on this album at all, for example. I play guitar, and the riffs they play aren't really all that difficult at all, except for the times they just seem to randomly hit the B and G strings.



"The song structures are complex."



The song structures are indeed complex, but this isn't a good thing in their case. Although most songs with the verse/chorus/verse/chorus song structure are repetitive and boring, some songs just flow that way (see Mastodon's Blood & Thunder). Not many of the songs on "The Fiancee" flow in any way at all. It just seems to me they trying way too hard to make their songs unique and complex, but instead it results in a randomized mess of a song that doesn't flow at all. Thats just my opinion though.



This album really is terrible. And I'm sorry to bring up spelling on the internet, because I feel like a tool, but hottiebassplayer, your spelling is awful. Try using smaller words.

LifeInABox
April 12th 2007


3709 Comments


....This Message Edited On 09.18.07

LifeInABox
April 12th 2007


3709 Comments


and Blood & Thunder is the easiest Mastodon song ever. This Message Edited On 04.12.07



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