“why are people so happy to announce their cognitive dissonance?”

No, this is done precisely to reduce cognitive dissonance.

"tbh whats funny to me is that basically nobody outside of the us has heard of them"

i actually caught them in like 2011 in Belgium, so not even anglosphere. They were pretty big for a non-mainstream rock band

won't be a popular opinion but i think silence and evasiveness does not substantially solve anything. I support pizzamachine writing it out. This sharing is exactly a good method of addressing cognitive dissonance.

Of course it looks bad for people who don't have the conflict. Only those who have experienced it know the psychological pressure.

"They were pretty big for a non-mainstream rock band"

I think they were pretty mainstream. Not as big as Linkin Park or Incubus, but they appealed to most of the same demographics in the mid-late oughts.

Album Rating: 3.5

"tbh whats funny to me is that basically nobody outside of the us has heard of them"



they were one of the biggest rock bands in the UK lol

Album rules, wish it was on Spotify so I could listen to it easily

Album Rating: 3.5

I last listened to this many years ago when my girlfriend (now wife) was at uni.



No Devotion need to do another album, Ian can rot

Album Rating: 4.0

Same bloc I wish this was on streaming. These Youtube uploads sound like garbage.

If ever there was a band to illegally download from it's this one. There would have been none of this "o noes my streaming service doesn't have this band how am i gonna listen to them now" crap in my day! xD

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah the YouTube quality is piss

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah SitarHero I haven't needed to use torrents for a while but I might do it for this.

It is factually correct that they were a breifly a big deal but this band's popularity has really been memoryholed over the past decade, I was just slightly too young to be aware of them when they were at their commercial peak and ime hardly anyone my age has even heard of them let alone listened to their music

Their singles like 'Rooftop' and 'Last Train Home' did the rounds on Kerrang and Scuzz music stations when I was growing up. They definitely maintained airplay with their singles for quite a while maybe until their Bullets album.

I didn't follow the band for that long and never bought one of their albums but they were definitely popular at one point.

@Kompys: you probably had to 'be there', time and a place

There absolutely has to be an element of deleting their existence from our memory banks now though, which can serve to retrospectively dilute their significance.

I do think they'd still receive occasional but fairly mainstream air-play here in the UK if what happened didn't happen. 'We' seem to 'remember' all the other ex-vaguely popular, average rock bands from the era.

> 'We' seem to 'remember' all the other ex-vaguely popular average rock bands from the era.

in my defense i would say what i said for all of those too :x

I mean, they also must've 'made it' outside of the UK (to an extent).
just seen how many votes this album has... they are probably MORE popular than I'd thought, at least in certain circles. Damn.

Biffy's Infinity Land came out the same year (their peak), doesn't even hit 400 here. Just for the British rock / pretty big in the UK but maybe not elsewhere comparison

Would this band be considered Babymetal? #reallymakesyouthink

>just seen how many votes this album has... they are probably MORE popular than I'd thought, at least in certain circles. Damn.

this site isnt v generalisable, for instance chevelle has more ratings here than on rym despite the latter site having way more users. for stuff like radiohead, metallica, hell even Can it's usually 8-10x more on rym

I genuinely thought this band were American because of their music videos.

"I genuinely thought this band were American because of their music videos."

To be fair, they do have that Breaking Benjamin vibe about them