Limited Express (has gone?) perfect ME
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Divaman
June 10th 2021


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Johnny's avatar is giving me seizures. It's nice, though.

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JohnnyoftheWell
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June 10th 2021


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Album Rating: 4.0

lol try the album

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Divaman
June 10th 2021


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That might really give me seizures.

JohnnyoftheWell
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June 10th 2021


41673 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

it might give you something else

like a good day

or a special meal https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57426198

Divaman
June 10th 2021


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You just want to laugh at the horrible names I would call for getting me to listen to it.

Divaman
June 10th 2021


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I might be willing to get a Quarter Pounder in Indonesia, though.

Divaman
June 10th 2021


12840 Comments


Who am I kidding? I'd try a Quarter Pounder in Indonesia in a heartbeat.

Dewinged
Staff Reviewer
June 10th 2021


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"gonna watch this this weekend shit yay"

She had a new doc on cinemas this year in January, can't remember the name, dammit.

Really talented filmmaker, she filmed us with BlondNewHalf at the beginning of the year in Osaka, too bad the live house decided to keep the footage and let it rot instead of putting it up on youtube.

There's a trailer though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHM56Fpb_5s&ab_channel=NorikoOishi

Also I'd like to add that BlondNewHalf are probably my favorite Japanese punk band right now.

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dimsim3478
June 11th 2021


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There IS a noise punk, rock underground scene, both in Kansai and Kanto areas, beautifully filmed in Noriko Oiishi's MOTHERFUCKER doc, which follows Limited Express around and shows quite a bit of the scene.

I have the doc on DVD (it has English subtitles btw). I saw no suggestion therein that any of these bands are related or comparable. None of them appear in it except LE, obviously.
Members of all the bands Johnny mentioned are friends with each other, have or are playing in different projects together and have shared the bill and they still do in many occasions.

Again, I've seen no evidence that any of this is true except that the bands are friends (a lot of unrelated bands are friends), and that Otoboke and MxBx have played with LE. I also see no evidence that the bands are all universally considered part of same scene or tradition or some Japanese noise rock gold standard as the review may be suggesting. The fact that they come from the same general area and have a somewhat (superficially) similar sound isn't necessarily significant; perhaps some people are reading a narrative of a "scene" and "torch-passing" into that. If that's not the intention--that the quality standard is only supposed to be a "vague" one as defined by Western internet nerds divorced from context--then I see it as a no more insightful statement than "this is some of the best Japanese noise rock around", which more effectively conveys that idea than some reference to five random bands that don't necessarily represent that standard. Consider again the comparison of Jeff Rosenstock to those bands I mentioned. All are "loosely comparable and highly regarded within western discussion circles", yet they would never ordinarily be mentioned together; it would be strange to do so. I'm not convinced that mentioning LE, MxBx, OB, Midori and Bleach together is any different.

"Namedropping" is not somehow wrong or prohibited, but I do think it's often bad writing to do so.

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Dewinged
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June 11th 2021


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Man, Dim, I've played with them, I talk to them regularly, there is a scene, there is a relation, whether you find that offensive or incongruent for some unknown reason that I just don't understand it's up to you my man.

The names cited on the review make sense because they are the most prominent nowadays, what use would be to talk about some other underground bands that don't even have bandcamp or streaming? just for the sake of genre accuracy?



dimsim3478
June 11th 2021


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there is a scene, there is a relation, whether you find that offensive or incongruent for some unknown reason that I just don't understand it's up to you my man.

If you say so. But part of the problem is that you can only say so. I've yet to see any objective representation that these bands all belong to the same scene/tradition/pantheon except for, like, RYM, which is not a reliable basis for that assertion. Which begs the question: why are people grouping potentially unrelated, superficially similar-sounding bands together without clear knowledge of any existing association between them?

Dewinged
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June 11th 2021


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Let's say I would find laughable to compare Babymetal with Limited just because they are Japanese,or because they have female singers. But comparing Limited to Melt Banana? to Otoboke Beaver? Otori? I think it's perfectly acceptable and pretty usual, actually. To add to that, you can even find the same audience in shows of any of these bands. Literally, always the same people, at least in Kansai.

dimsim3478
June 11th 2021


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But comparing Limited to Melt Banana? to Otoboke Beaver? Otori? I think it's perfectly acceptable and pretty usual, actually.

I do think it's perfectly natural for people who like one of these bands to be recommended the others, but as I said earlier, I don't know that comparing or grouping them together in a written piece says anything insightful or meaningful. So from a writing standpoint it seems unnecessary to me.

To add to that, you can even find the same audience in shows of any of these bands. Literally, always the same people, at least in Kansai.

I'll have to take your word for it.

Unrelated: it's hella cool that you're playing in o'summer! I checked them out a year or two ago based on your recommendation and they (you?) are excellent. Glad Damnably picked o'summer up so they have that international exposure.

btw about livestream footage, if you or someone you know has a ticket, it is fairly easy to download the stream; Twitcasting is one of the easiest sites to rip. Since the onset of the pandemic and the proliferation of livestreams from Japanese bands, I've been somewhat obsessively archiving streams since before the pandemic, full set live footage of underground Japanese bands was extremely scarce. Def gimme a shout if you need some pointers on downloading streams.

Dewinged
Staff Reviewer
June 11th 2021


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" they (you?) are excellent" Thanks dude, I would say they cause I just joined when they were already cool ;) Red LP is coming out in August in what do I know right!?case you wanna preorder it!

The thing with the twitcasting stream for hard rain is that we asked for it but we were made very clear it belonged to the live house so even if I had it i couldn't do anything with it.

On the other hand... if someone else would download it and post it on youtube... what do I know right!? ;D

The fun part is that I actually bought a ticket so my wife could watch the stream when we recorded it. I know, ridinculous.

Dewinged
Staff Reviewer
June 11th 2021


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Otoboke Beaver did one hell of a stream for Noriko too, with Afrirampo that is worth having.

Check out this trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CBiGs-WVmY&ab_channel=NorikoOishi

The twincast link is there too ;)

dimsim3478
June 11th 2021


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I bought that Otoboke/Afrirampo one last year (two of my faves; couldn't say no)! Even uploaded to MEGA to share with some peeps in a Discord. Shoutbox me if you want the MEGA link.

Insufferable band name

Actually I remember that when I first saw this band's name I thought "that's a cool name!"

Dewinged
Staff Reviewer
June 11th 2021


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It makes a lot of sense if you're living in Japan.

dim (and Johnnyman) I don't know if you guys know but Call and Response Records (tokyo label ran by UK homie) put out LLRR's debut (I think?) like a couple of months ago and it's pretty cool too. The singer is o'summer vacation's ex-vox and I think the drummer is from Otori (and also ex o'summer).

dimsim3478
June 11th 2021


8982 Comments


just had a listen and LLRR is dope! Psycho Prism in particular is an immediate favourite. thanks for another great rec!

FadedSun
June 12th 2021


2785 Comments


Wtf is this band name

JohnnyoftheWell
Staff Reviewer
June 12th 2021


41673 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

It is a Limited Express (tokkyuu) train

that has gone





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