Poppy I Disagree
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Aerisavion
February 5th 2020


3145 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

“but... I Disagree.”



lol

Willie
Moderator
February 10th 2020


20212 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Not that it was very poignient to begin with, but it did get lost on the last page, and I'm curious if Sowing would agree since I'm pretty sure he's heard Sleigh Bells:



--Before I heard this I saw a lot of people comparing this to Babymetal, but... I Disagree. The two bands aren't really anything alike. After a few listens, this reminds me more of an eccentric Sleigh Bells.--

JohnnyoftheWell
Staff Reviewer
February 10th 2020


60384 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

Yeah agreed tbh (on Babymetal, haven't heard Sleigh Bells); Babymetal commit to metal more while Poppy throws it around as pastiche. At the end of the day, I guess the novelty appeal is the biggest draw for both regardless

Sowing
Moderator
February 10th 2020


43949 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I've heard Reign of Terror and Jessica Rabbit and I think the Sleigh Bells comparison holds up well. I also agree with the comparisons to Babymetal too, however I've only heard the most recent Babymetal LP and nothing else.

In other news, I still find myself listening to this which is surprising. If I'm still enjoying this a couple months from now might have to bump my score slightly.

Scheumke
February 10th 2020


2629 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I feel there's a big difference in the way Poppy and Babymetal delivers their music. Musically they fall under the same subgenre, but I feel Poppy is doing it as a 'shocking' novelty and almost a persiflage, whereas babymetal actually combine two genres (Metal and J-pop) as 'their thing'. I feel Babymetal are way more serious in their delivery, almost pioneers in a way, since this combination is already much more prevalent in Japan and is sprouting numerous clones.

Willie
Moderator
February 10th 2020


20212 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I totally agree with that assessment. I don't find any real similarities between Babymetal and Poppy. The metal isn't the same, and even the pop isn't the same. Sleigh Bells... that's where I find similarities.

Sowing
Moderator
February 10th 2020


43949 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah Scheumke you're absolutely right. I enjoy all three artists on some level, but it's hard to articulate how they are different, ha.

JohnnyoftheWell
Staff Reviewer
February 10th 2020


60384 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

Scheumke [2] (thank you lol, much better version of the comment I was trying to make ;])

Willie
Moderator
February 10th 2020


20212 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Babymetal blend actual metal genres, and the songwriters seem like they actually have knowledge and experience with the different subgenres of metal and pop. Poppy doesn't seem to have any knowledge of metal or the subgenres. Instead she seems to be going through the motions and trying to recreate a rudimentary emulation of what she thinks metal might sound like.

Sowing
Moderator
February 10th 2020


43949 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I'm probably the wrong person to be commenting on the various approaches/styles of metal, but even I noticed that as well. It feels very "square peg, round role", almost like she's sampling metal rather than integrating it.

Willie
Moderator
February 10th 2020


20212 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

--I'm probably the wrong person to be commenting on the various approaches/styles of metal, but even I noticed that as well. It feels very "square peg, round role", almost like she's sampling metal rather than integrating it.--

Speaking of another genre you probably aren't too familiar with... but, Industrial music started that way too. In the 80s when these electro-industrial bands first started trying to include metal, it was obvious they had no real idea how to create riffs or get them to actually go with the electronics. Some bands figured it out on their own, some bands never figured it out, and some bands (Die Krupps) just hired thrash guitarist to make it the most authentic.



Sowing
Moderator
February 10th 2020


43949 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

That makes sense. It's kind of cool to be witnessing the ascension of a new genre (pop-metal?) much in the same way you just described Industrial music. For as much as many of us lament the exhaustion of creative avenues in music, here's one that's taking off right before our very ears. I know the sound has been around for several years - and I could be wrong - but it definitely seems to be coming into the limelight more recently thanks to Babymetal (and now Poppy). Or who knows, maybe I'm being overdramatic.

Willie
Moderator
February 10th 2020


20212 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I don't think you are being overdramatic. Some people are going to want to call it a fad, but it's most likely here to stay. These bands just have to go through a learning curve. If you follow the first few songs Babymetal released compared to the later songs that came out even on their debut, there was a learning curve. They were smart, though, and went out and got 'the real thing' to improve the metal portion. Poppy is still kind of 'token' metal.

Sowing
Moderator
February 10th 2020


43949 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Poppy feels like the nu-metal of pop-metal, lol. If any aspect of this genre fusing is a fad, it's her - unless she makes modifications like Babymetal and early 80s industrial. Regardless, I still enjoy this album...it's very hamfisted and deliberate, but a very fun carefree jam for sure.

alamo
February 10th 2020


5571 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I Disagree

Willie
Moderator
February 10th 2020


20212 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I'm not going to lie, I definitely enjoy this, but while you could argue that Babymetal is metal, it wouldn't make sense to say the same thing about Poppy. But, something slightly heavier and weirder than Sleigh Bells... just saying.

garas
Staff Reviewer
February 10th 2020


8059 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"almost like she's sampling metal rather than integrating it"

[2] Also, it feels more of "Poppy and some guests" because she didn't really change(?). But if the music dark (and it is) then I like it.

oltnabrick
February 11th 2020


40640 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

She’s opening for Deftones this summer

Willie
Moderator
February 11th 2020


20212 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Seriously? ha ha.

Casavir
February 12th 2020


5644 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

"They were smart, though, and went out and got 'the real thing' to improve the metal portion."



bet



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