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nol
May 29th 2019


12095 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I mean Hip Hop and rap aren’t the same thing they are just closely tied together, and Tyler’s music has really never been very Hip Hop inspired. “In Search Of did more for me than Illmatic, that’s when I realized I wasn’t cut from the same fabric”



But breaking things down into simple genre tags is a worthless endeavor anyway

guitarded_chuck
May 29th 2019


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

its neo soul which is not hip hop



any more questions

guitarded_chuck
May 29th 2019


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"Tyler’s music has really never been very Hip Hop inspired"



um i mean everything up to and including cherry bomb was rap which is hip hop

guitarded_chuck
May 29th 2019


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

then again im arguing over subjective semantic labels with children on mxtabs.net so jokes on me

nol
May 29th 2019


12095 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Rap and hip hop aren’t the same thing. Lol.



Tyler’s music has been jazz/neo-soul inspired and not trap inspired since like Wolf at least.

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
May 29th 2019


27487 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

yeah but chuck is basically right in saying "it's rap so it's hip hop" because it's ALMOST always one of those all-squares-are-rectangles things: not all hip hop is rap, because there's instrumental, no-rapping stuff like DJ shadow and j dilla and whatever, but as soon as someone starts spitting bars ( = rap) it's pretty hard not to call it hip hop



maybe

guitarded_chuck
May 29th 2019


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"early OF was jazz inspired"



i think you need a new pair of ears

nol
May 29th 2019


12095 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

What about something like For Free off TPAB where there’s hella bars but the musicianship is straight up concert hall jazz?

guitarded_chuck
May 29th 2019


18070 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

relevant

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
May 29th 2019


27487 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

yeah or you can think of Rain in England by Lil B where he's rapping over literal ambient music



these are extreme cases and I wouldn't dare set hard boundaries for skeptics but I still feel as if the practice of rapping has this weird ineffable quality that transforms genre, but I dunno really, it's a good point



obviously this is a different discussion from whether or not this album is hip hop but idk, i'm just havin fun with it!!

nol
May 29th 2019


12095 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Bruh I said starting with Wolf. If you don’t think Wolf is jazz inspired you’re the one who needs new ears lol. Early OF has Tyler trying jazz chords on a piano, but other than that it’s garage level hippity hop

nol
May 29th 2019


12095 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

The closest this album gets to Hip Hop is What’s Good, New Magic Wand, and the beat in Earfquake, but Chuck is definitely right that hip hop is a rough label for this for the most part.

JayEnder
May 29th 2019


19966 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Neo Soul with hip hop elements is how I see this album.



This definitely focuses a lot less on the bars and more on the emotion.

nol
May 29th 2019


12095 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Here’s a hot take: this is basically a singer-songwriter album

JayEnder
May 29th 2019


19966 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Honestly true.



I just hope Tyler doesn't lead himself too far in that direction and we get an entire album of "Are We Still Friends" next. I need RAPS.



"Ain't nobody care how you feel, we want raps nigga" - Vince Staples

nol
May 29th 2019


12095 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Never forget the bars on Potato Salad

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
May 29th 2019


27487 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"potato salad" is still so fire

JayEnder
May 29th 2019


19966 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

OKRA is still his best standalone single.



Potato Salad rules hard though.

SymbolicInTime
May 29th 2019


7380 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Damn I forgot all about those standalones Okra definitely ruled

JayEnder
May 29th 2019


19966 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

435 owns too but tyler's voice is weirdly produced in that one



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