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thank you luci
"This is coming from a person who 5’d Ariana grande just wanted to point that out ok see ya later"
lol i dont actually think anything ariana grande has done is a 5 dude, which becomes very quickly clear after an extremely brief discussion with me on the matter.
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ghandhi you're lost (as always)
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I’m not saying you should entirely dismiss that criticism. I’m saying using it as a blanket dismissal on music you don’t like - which is essentially what the one-off comment that first brought up the term industry plan sounded like - is dumb and masturbatory
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I just don’t really understand having this romantic idea that pop music, when being influenced by a person’s humble background or personal struggle, has some sort of purity or authenticity when it’s still being written by 6 producers in a giant studio? I even like a fair amount of pop music but I definitely don’t have some false pretense that it’s not violently funneled through a marketing team and transformed completely before it reaches the ears of the people, especially when it comes to new artists that are found at a young age
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Ya, I just don’t think complaining about who is funding the music is a worthwhile value judgment in 2019, particularly in pop music
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@botb have you even read the comments? you and I are in the same boat dude, pop music isn't generally the genre you are going to find that pure authenticity in... it's all subject to these criticisms...
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Ya, I just don’t think complaining about who is funding the music is a worthwhile value judgment in 2019, particularly in pop music
you are still isolating the entire argument down to one tiny aspect of the entire concept just to retain validity even though we've glossed over and discussed a massive quantity of factors.
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It seems like people just care about authenticity in general though.
not really relevant: She has neurotic tics, that's cool and an non normality for the ideal pop star .
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just gonna quote luci again because i sense this conversation is doomed to everyone just being stubborn af at this point
dismissing critiques of industry machinations is just another variation of that one-dimensional remark: "I separate the art from the artist." those concepts will always be connected, and that's especially clear in this case where the product has been focus grouped to banality.
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"It seems like people just dont care about authenticity in general though. "
you're so cute i could slap you
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come at me.
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Maybe I'm just tired of debating and reading debates, but couldn't this just boil down to what pots already said about not ignoring criticisms nor criticizing everything based on a preconceived notion? It's not a radical notion. You can realize something has no organic artistic integrity and still enjoy it, or hate grassroots mcgee even though he's the most authentic person from east bumblefuck. I think we're all on the same page and just arguing meaningless nuances lol.
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“have you even read the comments? you and I are in the same boat dude, pop music isn't generally the genre you are going to find that pure authenticity in... it's all subject to these criticisms...“
No I am agreeing with you I was intially just poking fun at you for liking Ariana grande and then saying “well the industry plant comments may be good points for this”
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So what you are saying Sowing is that we should separate the art from the artist? Great.
@pothead
Given what's cool in our culture, yes I do think most people don't care about authenticity. And no, I don't think this is a new thing that only exists in my lifetime.
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Maybe I'm just tired of debating and reading debates, but couldn't this just boil down to what pots already said about not ignoring criticisms nor criticizing everything based on a preconceived notion? It's not a radical notion. You can realize something has no organic artistic integrity and still enjoy it, or hate grassroots mcgee even though he's the most authentic person from east bumblefuck. I think we're all on the same page and just arguing meaningless nuances lol.
i'll take this. nice and soft.
@botb ah. well to be fair, i didnt say they may be good points for this, i specifically said i have no idea if there is any truth to the claim for billie, was just defending that criticizing these machinations of pop aren't inherently "celestially retarded"
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ghandhi is actually celestially retarded tho. i think we are all good through here.
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"you are still isolating the entire argument down to one tiny aspect of the entire concept just to retain validity even though we've glossed over and discussed a massive quantity of factors."
lol wat? i haven't been discussing a massive quantity of factors, think my point has been pretty singular this entire time
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"You shouldn't lower your rating of Burzum albums just because he said the Jews created the black death"
Do you actually believe this or am I being memed here
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Yes I do.
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well if it wasn't those pesky jews who was it?
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