Stella Donnelly Beware Of The Dogs
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Lord(e)Po)))ts
March 11th 2019


45018 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

We do not live with equal opportunity here in Canada, we just suck the most to Aboriginals instead of African Americans.

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verdant
Staff Reviewer
March 11th 2019


2422 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

i don't know where you're getting all of this. i never said to walk on eggshells around your female friends. being mindful of when you're hurting someones feelings or invalidating a crucial part of their identity is a completely different thing. and i also never said that women don't have agency; i said that there's an inarguable preponderance of men out there that want to strip parts of it away so that they can retain a certain level of control over the women in their lives, and that control is maintained not just through obvious bigotry, but also a continual reinforcing of certain stereotypes through offhanded comments. i think your problem isn't that you're an outright misogynist but i think it's harmful to read something like this and immediately jump on the defensive.

rabidfish
March 11th 2019


5365 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Blade fucking owns hard.

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Sinternet
March 11th 2019


20309 Comments


black panther was important for it's medium, just because something came before it doesn't negate that it had a far bigger cultural impact. to put this into a musical context, how many bands or artists pioneered a sound but this sound didn't become revolutionary until another artist made an even bigger statement after? there were punk bands before the sex pistols singing about the same topics, but how many of those are as big a cultural landmark as never mind the bollocks was? both are important yes, but wider cultural impact has a much bigger effect on a medium than innovation usually

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Slex
Contributing Reviewer
March 11th 2019


8015 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

[2] to Jack and fish

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Ev1lToaster
March 11th 2019


185 Comments


I think we're all more or less on the same page here, but I can't say that of the reviewer due to lines like these ""Beware of the Dogs is a timely reminder of how deeply ingrained certain toxic dynamics are, how every condescending riposte, every failure to admonish misogynistic behaviour within your own circle (even – no, especially those microaggressions) perpetuates and strengthens a social order which disparages the agency of women and other groups that are decidedly Not-Men, Unmale, Whiten’t."

Because I don't think there are socially ingrained toxic dynamics. I don't think there's a social order that disparages the agency of women, and if there is i would argue it stems from fourth wave feminists bringing it upon themselves with the same toxicity and aleination they blame on men. People have the capacity for toxicity. They have the capacity for many things, but dividing based on sex and race and such is the exact wrong thing to do imo.

Ev1lToaster
March 11th 2019


185 Comments


Lol jack telling us to be mindful of microaggressions is basically policing language, thus walking on eggshells. Anything can be a microaggrression, that's what it is - 'micro'

artiswar
March 11th 2019


9268 Comments


what is white privilege?

Slex
Contributing Reviewer
March 11th 2019


8015 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I think part of this is there's again a fine line between blame and accountability

Deathconscious
March 11th 2019


22243 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Black Panther was not gud

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Ev1lToaster
March 11th 2019


185 Comments


"i said that there's an inarguable preponderance of men out there that want to strip parts of it away so that they can retain a certain level of control over the women in their lives"

That's psychotic. And unsubstantiated. Do you know a lot of people like this in your life? I can't think of a single person in my life who does this. Not saying it doesn't happen sometimes but come on.

Atari
Staff Reviewer
March 11th 2019


24898 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I think this whole thing’s being blown out of proportion. A lot of the lyrics about misogynistic behavior come across as tongue-in-cheek to me. She has some serious things to say, but she makes sure to have fun saying them. Idk, I think even if you remove the politics it’s still an enjoyable and quirky indie pop album. Shouldn’t be taken quite so seriously 😳





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Sinternet
March 11th 2019


20309 Comments


'That's a great point Sinternet, but again I think those distinctions are dangerous and factually incorrect. Here in Canada we live with equal opportunity. Many many many different ethnic backgrounds comprises Canada's DNA and still it's "white privilege" privilege should be assigned based on region, not race. That further alienates and spreads misinformation. '

i can't speak on canada because i know very little about it apart from an exchange trip to ontario for three weeks when I was 16, but nothing you've said here really contradicts my point. regional privilege as a concept is most likely very related to class privilege, as poorer regions suffer from a lack of opportunity economically and usually poorer infrastructure. this is very similar to north vs south england, where the south-east england gets all the money because it's an important financial region including london (although there are still very deprived areas, i came from one), where as the north's economy was built around industry and mining which collapsed in the 70s and 80s. so this is class/economic privilege in action, which as i said is the most fundamentally important distinction of privilege. however when you get down to social issus for example which also effect demographics, this can place added disadvantages onto that (being LGBT/ethnic or religious minority /etc.)

Lord(e)Po)))ts
March 11th 2019


45018 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

The debate is pretty focused on the review, I dont think any of the people who took issue with it have heard the album.

Slex
Contributing Reviewer
March 11th 2019


8015 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Gotta say this is by far the best/most respectful argument I've seen on Sput in a VERY long time lol

rabidfish
March 11th 2019


5365 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

a movie doesn't need to be good to be important.

but yea, it's a boring ass movie. Lovely wardrobes, tho

Lord(e)Po)))ts
March 11th 2019


45018 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

How it should be always

Ev1lToaster
March 11th 2019


185 Comments


Going back to Blade for a second here: I think it had a decent cultural impact and I still strongly feel that Black Panther (which honestly isn't as good) was blown way out of proportion. I've seen plenty of cinema that represents black culture. I just recently watched Moonlight, which had a hell of a lot more to say than Black Panther.

Sinternet
March 11th 2019


20309 Comments


i mean have you never met people who say 'boys will be boys' to excuse bad behaviour? have you never seen how prevalent sexual misconduct is with drunk guys at a bar or club or something? guys who get very touchy and feely with girls without consent? i guess because nearly all my friends are women I am much more aware of it, but there are a lot of toxic behaviour patterns that society ingrains in young men who never get told no.

Slex
Contributing Reviewer
March 11th 2019


8015 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Yeah just in the Richmond/VA Beach music scene alone there is a frankly outrageous number of straight up rapists and I've seen numerous times how most of the scene treats the victims, it ain't pretty

Also while I loved Black Panther, hell yeah Moonlight is incredible



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