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Seether
Karma And Effect


4.0
excellent

Review

by Acey USER (43 Reviews)
June 19th, 2006 | 17 replies


Release Date: 2005 | Tracklist


This is Seether's second real album (I don't consider Disclaimer II a full album, because it was the same thing as the first with 8 extra songs. Disclaimer was released in 2002 and Disclaimer II in 2004. Seether then released this album in 2005 and are planning on releasing an acoustic live album July 11, 2006, with songs from both Disclaimer II and Karma and Effect.

Seether is:
Shaun Morgan - Vocals, Guitar
Dale Stewart - Bass, Vocals
John Humphrey - Drums
Patrick Callahan- Guitar
(Patrick departed the band after this record, taking Seether back to a three piece band, which is what it started out as.)

Seether-Karma & Effect (2005)
1. Because of Me - This song starts out with a typical Seether sound, but the whole song is totally different. It is probably about a girl and how she lost her guy. Most of the time throughout the CD, Seether will use two guitars to make it sound better and to get the stereo effect. One of the harder songs on the album. 4.5/5

2. Remedy - The first single off of Karma & Effect. If this song wasn't overplayed as much as it is, I might listen to it a little more. Talks about how he says he can do all of this, but when he can't, he goes back to the remedy. This is probably the only song that doesn't have the two-guitar type effect to it. Another good song, but overplayed. 5/5(I didn't give it 5/5 because my screen name has Seether in it. I bought the CD the day it came out and liked remedy before it became a huge success.

3. Truth - this is about him trying to tell the truth, and can't because he is trying to keep his real reasons hidden. This is the second single off of Karma & Effect. Has a good and catchy guitar line. He also talks about how he has failed us all. This is another rocker. One of the ones I enjoy more than Remedy. 5/5

4. The Gift - The third and final single off of Karma & Effect. It is more laid back than the first two. Has a catchy opening riff to it with no distortion. It is talking about the double life he is living and trying to be better, but he is afraid of the gift we are giving him. It is also the longest song on the album at 5:34. 3.5/5

5. Burrito - A weird name for a track, but he is talking about how the worst is over and how he is trying to get back on the right path. There isn't anything too special about this song as far as music goes. I think it is more of a filler track. Just Shaun screaming most of the time. 2/5

6. Given - The only song on the album tuned below a typical Seether/Disturbed tuning (DbAbDbGbBbEb). It is tuned to drop B and I thought that Seether did a better job on this song. It has a little solo around the 2:40 mark. I think it is talking about the typical "Indian giver" that each one of us is, or has become over the period of our life. 4.5/5

7. Never Leave - My personal favorite off of Karma & Effect. It talks about how a girl denies him and that he keeps on wanting her, but she will not give it to him. That is what I think. This song also uses the two guitars really well, and also good bass. The bridge is one of the better ones on the CD. Blends in well with the song. 5/5

8. World Falls Away - This is the song you want to rock out to. Starts out with a bang on the A chord and then jumps down to the Eb chord that Seether uses so well. Lyrics are typical mainstream lyrics. Nonetheless you should still just rock out to this song, just because it kicks. 4/5

9. Tongue - Talks about how he can't believe in himself and how he wants us to deal with his problems. Tuned to Drop D instead of their normal tuning, this is another song that rocks hard when it comes to the chorus. One of the better songs on the CD. 4.5/5

10. I'm the One - Another hard rock sounding song, talks about how he wants to get some, but she wouldn't let him. I only play guitar to the song, because the guitar work is decently good. Other than that it is nothing good. 2/5

11. Simplest Mistake - This is also one of my favorites on the CD. It starts out with a Drum beat that gets the song going. It uses the two-guitar setup very well on this CD.
"It feels like I'm losing again
When I've lost everything
I'm sure I will see more clearly
Lose what I'm feeling to them
And not feeling anything
I'm sure I will bleed sincerely
Tonight!?" This is the chorus to the song, and saying he is going to lose it all and then blames it on us for his death (which is in the bridge). This is another song to rock out to. 5/5

12. Diseased - This at first sounded like it could be a song from Tool, because of the delay and soft guitar sounds. Talks about how he has decided wherever he is, that he is Diseased and Ungrateful. First part Shaun screams during palm muted guitar riffs to the drums, which for this song is very hard. 4/5

13. Plastic Man - These guys sure know how to write an acoustic song. This is the only one on the CD, but they put it in the right spot. It talks about he will someday find where he fits in with the Crowd. The bridge is very good, as it changes keys, and then breaks back. It is the longest track at 8:47, but Shaun only sings for about four minutes. Then it is silence that leads into the (hidden track). 5/5

14. untitled track - since I don't know Shaun's native language, I am not going to review this track.

Pros - One of the better Mainstream rock bands out there
Shaun's singing
Dual guitar effects
Sound quality
Talents of musicians

Cons - not very many guitar solos (especially from a band who could write them)
Gets repetitive after a few listens.
Talents of musicians

I hope you like this review. It is definitely better than Disclaimer II and Disclaimer. If you have the $10-$15, go out and buy this, you won?t be disappointed. I also put the pros and cons for talents and musicians, because they are great artists, but I definitely think that they laid back and can do a whole lot more if they tried.
4/5 for this album.



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Comments:Add a Comment 
Brain Dead
June 19th 2006


1150 Comments


Did you give this album a 4/5 or a 5/5? The rating at the top and the one you typed in your review do not correspond. I've only heard Remedy, and I thought it was a pretty cool song. Good review also.This Message Edited On 06.19.06

Acey
June 19th 2006


2578 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

i changed it to a 4 just now, i just realized that. thanks for asking

The Flabbit Rides High
June 19th 2006


73 Comments


Yeah, i agree with Jom. Itsw definitely not worth a 4. A 3 at best. Its nothing new, just new grundge that sounds really cool. Although, with that being said, I do have a certain loyalty to them, with me supporting them from their "Saron Gas" days. Hehe.

I am South African, as a matter of interest, and yes, the native language being sung in the last track is Afrikaans. Its a mix-language incorperating Flemish and dutch grammer, although with the way it stands now, its really a language on its own.

That being said, it is also noteworthy to point out that Shaun's real surname is Welgemoed I believe. A popular Afrikaans surname in the South African area. The last song starts with him saying (in Afrikaans) : "Now im gonna sing in Afrikaans, its the right thing to do." Hes basically singing in the song :"Come with me, we'll leave the rest behind, come with me, this is the end of the cd." Pretty funny for a serious cd, but I guess the cultural knowledge of South Africa would make it more understandable.

Sup, learning from Chris? Haha.This Message Edited On 06.19.06

Acey
June 20th 2006


2578 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

thanks Hep Kat and to the two above him, i graduated high school so i decided to be lazy and not find out

Acey
June 20th 2006


2578 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

i even lowered my ratingt so i could review it and not get flamed as bad as i would have. i still question the 5 but i think a high 3.5-4 now definately

Acey
June 20th 2006


2578 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

haha, i understand Iluvatar. if i gave it a five with this review, you would flame me like no tomorrow, but now i think that some of the songs are filler. that is why i downgraded it to a 4. i think they are good, but could certainly become better, now that one of their members has left the band

pattern_recognition
June 20th 2006


950 Comments


Fine Again is still one of my guilty pleasures on those gray rainy days when you can wear black and stare broodingly out of a rain-fogged window at the uncaring world beyond, but I can't give this album more than a three.
Good review though.

Acey
June 20th 2006


2578 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

fine again is their best song ever written IMO

Rayne264
June 22nd 2006


64 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

i bought this cd around a year ago, and it was alright. i dont listen to it anymore, but its still a decent cd. i think its better than most mainstream rock today.

f_u_c_t
July 30th 2006


1406 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

seetherrocker, do you have the new Seether unplugged album?

i think its better than most mainstream rock today.



Yeah Seether is def. one of the better Mainsteam bands. I can stand their songs, even when there getting played out on the local radio station.

Acey
July 30th 2006


2578 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

f_u_c_t, yes i most do have it and i think it is one of the best unplugged CD's yet. and i try to listen to the songs that are not on the radio, so that one is on the radio, i can listen to it.

Do you have it?



i am going to review it here in the next few days, just havent gotten around to it yetThis Message Edited On 07.30.06

f_u_c_t
July 30th 2006


1406 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

yup i gots it. The DVD was worth the buy alone. You review it, i'll read it.

TheMisterBungle
July 30th 2006


861 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

bah seether

i hate this album

Acey
July 30th 2006


2578 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

i'll get to it around tuesday night SLC time, and yes the DVD was very good, and i also liked the remix of 'The Gift' much better than the original

StonewallJackson
October 14th 2006


40 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I`m also from South Africa and the last time Seether was here,in the beging of the year,along with Metallica, Collective Soul, The Rasmus and Simple Plan, they were the best live for me. Not dissing the other bands, they were all good. Great band and they give South African music a good name.



Cool review. Like the analyzing of each song





DaveBum69
May 1st 2008


699 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

this band is so bad



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